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How employ other gps software with EMTAC BT antenna than TT

I have the tomtom navigator 3 and a EMTAC bluetooth antenna and this works perfectly
My problem is that when I'am trying to employ other softwares like VITONAVIGATOR, GPSDASH ,INTELLIGOLF, and so on I cannot configure the softwares to recognize my antenna.
Kindest regards
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hi,
solution is simple...
sorry to say it, but uninstall TomTom GPS or better the whole TomTom and use Mapsonic or Mapopolis instead of it...
i did the same.
buzz

emtac
Yes of course but i already bought tomtom, is there any other solution?

Simple, in Remove Programs uninstall TomTom~GPS.
This won't prevent TomTom from working but will stop TomTom locking the BT Com Port for its own exclusive use.
Plenty of discussion of this on our website, see our detailed explanation here.

@griffog
man, that's an excellent guide there... really good one...
;o) basically i meant the same... ;o)))
but, tomtom needs also far more processing power than other comparable programs, that means battery drains 30% faster, slower UI response, etc.
i know, battery is not any issue if you are driving, but i sometimes walk as well... )))
anyway, i don't like tomtom...
do you maybe know, is it possible to do crossborder routing in newer tomtom versions? like you can in mapopolis?
THANX
buzz

It looks like TomTom v5 will do cross border-routing yes. I have never experienced slow response to the UI except when using SD for map storage on iPAQ2210's. Using CF resolves this.
v5 also introduces walking and cycling modes which alter the route calculations. What PDA/GPS/memory Card Combo do you use?

darren it our work around doesnt work for xda2

griffog said:
It looks like TomTom v5 will do cross border-routing yes. I have never experienced slow response to the UI except when using SD for map storage on iPAQ2210's. Using CF resolves this.
v5 also introduces walking and cycling modes which alter the route calculations. What PDA/GPS/memory Card Combo do you use?
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hi griffog,
i'm using XDA2 + EMTAC BT + Mapsonic or Mapopolis.
Maps are on Transcend 64Mb SD card.
i'm very satisfied with this combination
buzz

just being playing with mine :lol: :shock: eerrrr right
first delete gps 2.07 or above then soft reset the device install pocket bluetooth tools delete the pairing with your receiver repair then ( during which you will be asked to create a serial port for this device select NO at this point then intall gps 2.06 available from www.pocketgpsworld.com this available in the downloads section under tomtom gps drivers.
download the cab file and copy it to the xda2 and then exicute it from file explorer select you reciver and away you go
well thats how i did it hopefully the above ramblings make sense :lol:

Alix, how will he configure the other gps software if no serial port has been assigned, I understand this works under tomtom as "bluetooth gps" but I am not so sure it will work with the software he mentions.unless you have tried it, if so how did you configure it.?

bluetooth tools asigns the comport to com7 not sure hows these thing work really it just worked for me i can run tomtom 3 and copoilt 5 on the same machine

TOMTOM 5 compatible??

considering getting tomtom5 for my mda compact.
anyone know whether its compatible, has anyone got it?

Should be. TomTom 3 and 4 worked fine.
By the way, Bakonl's release of TomTom 5 was just posted on alt.binaries.warez.pocketpc.gps, along with a few maps.

Benelux map only.. :x

TT5 does work
and not only benlux maps are posted. italy, france, germany, spain, uk are posted as well. rest will be posted as well i guess.
anyway, waiting for my legal TT5 to arrive (with the bt gps), woei =)

I can't get it working... I tried installing in the program files and in the storage card directories but it crashes at the end of the tutorial, just after that the "Welcome to TomTom Navigator" message appears in the map screen.
I can't see the map nor the GPS is able to connect (TomTom "3" Navigator Wireless).
I can't find any registry entry, I modified the currentmap.dat in order to point to /storage card/italia-map.
Anyone was able to reproduce my problem and to solve it?

Yeah, I noticed there are a few maps out. I'd like Scandinavia tho Seems like a buggy version too.. Crashes often.

Yeah... reeeeally buggy, I tried to check the post in the alt.warez.pocketpc.gps newsgroup for infos about bugs/problems etc. but I can't find it in my nssp server and using the web I'm not able to see the post (I can just see the header) so... I still can't use it :lol: ; maybe it could be a bad installer, I noticed that sometimes it won't install some cabs from the cd, or maybe it's just the italian map which is corrupt... who knows? 8)

I guess the release on alt.binaries is a preview or beta version.
The official release of Tomtom 5 will be end of June.
Im still waiting for Destinator PN on emule...

Where can i find the TomTom 5?

I have installed TomTom 5 to see if it works, I'm unable to connect my BlueTooth GPS (Holux GPSlim 236). The port does not show up on the device list under Buzz WM2005.
Does anybody know how to change this?
Ikkuh

I have installed TomTom 5 , I'm able to connect my BlueTooth GPS (Holux GPSlim 236) on port 4
work OK for me !!!

JesperR said:
Where can i find the TomTom 5?
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www.tomtom.com
Stefan

bruxelles5 said:
I have installed TomTom 5 , I'm able to connect my BlueTooth GPS (Holux GPSlim 236) on port 4
work OK for me !!!
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I had the same problem.... go to the bluetooth com ports, change the GSM to use COM8.
Then start -> settings -> gps, on the first tab set com4 and on the second tab tom com8. The thrid tab should have the checkbox set.
Now reset your device.
Start tomtom, goto your GSM setup, choose Other bluetooth, select COM4.
Now exit tomtom and reset your device.
Start tomtom and wait a while (can take a few minutes for it to find the GPS).
This worked for me (you need the resets in order to detect the com ports!!)
Ikkuh

@Ikkuh,
How can I change the Com port settings on my MDA Compact? I can't seem to understand you're solution. I need Com 8 and TT5 only has 2,4,5 and 9.
Thanks in advance!

dickr43 said:
@Ikkuh,
How can I change the Com port settings on my MDA Compact? I can't seem to understand you're solution. I need Com 8 and TT5 only has 2,4,5 and 9.
Thanks in advance!
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There is a serial port multiplexer build in just for the GPS. It is under settings -> GPS, if you use this, you can create a virtual serial port, and attach it to the hardware GPS. If you do this and reset the device, the virtual GPS will show up in TomTom (in my case it did ;-) )
Ikkuh

I must admit dickr43 has got a point. Even though you are trying to be helpful, Ikkuh, it's a bit hard to understand.
Start tomtom, goto your GSM setup, choose Other bluetooth, select COM4.
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There IS no GSM setup in TT. Most likely you mean GPS?
There is a serial port multiplexer build in just for the GPS. It is under settings -> GPS, if you use this, you can create a virtual serial port
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Doesn't exist either. Must be some third party app you have installed...
dickr43,
Try removing your GPS pairing from the Magician. Go select the 'Bluetooth Setting' icon under Settings/System and make sure both the serial ports are activated. Note which COM port is 'Outbound', then re-pair with your GPS device. Start TT and in the GPS settings panel, you should get things running by selecting the COM port that was marked for Outbound.
Unless you are running some third party software with virtual BT COM ports, that should get you up and running. If you are, try each COM port one by one. Don't hurry through the ports, but give it time to connect. 5-10 seconds at least. Also make absolutely sure your GPS is within range and has a satellite fix, or you are wasting your time.

I cant use tomtom 5 as a route map
I just want to use it sometimes without the gps module is it possible. Because with the older version it was possible to select a GPS simulator.
THX :lol:

The "unofficial" versions of TomTom5 doing the rounds seem to have been taken from beta builds. I installed without any problems, but noticed a number of bugs (not recognising GPS, the program freezing, picking up wild GPS info, settings not sticking)... sometimes you'd think it was working, and you'd think you'd got it stable, but then they'd fall down.
I've tried 3 different versions doing the rounds right now and none of them are stable. I'll wait a month or so for a more finished release is available.

i got my hands on TT5 aswell, the program looks realy nice and lot improvement to TT3, but as mentioned above, it's not very stable, spontain exiting of TT5 is not cool when youre in the middle of no where.
my gps was recognized directley,
i just went to BT settings and checked Com5 and a messege apeared that i must bond with a compatible device, so i bonded with my GPS reciever and in the TT wizard i could chose Com5 and it connected right away, much easyer than TT3
regards.

Hi,
I am considering getting TOMTOM5 for my T-Mobile MDA Compact and would like to use this in my car. Does anyone know or can provide screen shots of what the display looks like? Is it easily readable while driving?
Thanks
Msuk

TomTom 5.21 on mini s

im having a nightmare!!! after reading through hundreds of forums to get tomtom 5 on the xda mini s i finally manged to install tomtom 5.21 on my device but now i have a problem, a couple of forums advised to just install 5.21 not version 5 (not compatible with wm5). 5.21 installs perfectly, i have all the maps and voices, but now as i have obtained the tomtom 5.21 update when i get past the voice section it tells me to enter a product code, i only have a copy of tomtom 5 so i havent got a product code. is there anyway round this????? ive tried a crack 5.21 but it just tells me when i try to install it on my device "tomtom failed to start"
anyone got any step by step suggestions its driving me crazy!!!!

straffs said:
im having a nightmare!!! after reading through hundreds of forums to get tomtom 5 on the xda mini s i finally manged to install tomtom 5.21 on my device but now i have a problem, a couple of forums advised to just install 5.21 not version 5 (not compatible with wm5). 5.21 installs perfectly, i have all the maps and voices, but now as i have obtained the tomtom 5.21 update when i get past the voice section it tells me to enter a product code, i only have a copy of tomtom 5 so i havent got a product code. is there anyway round this????? ive tried a crack 5.21 but it just tells me when i try to install it on my device "tomtom failed to start"
anyone got any step by step suggestions its driving me crazy!!!!
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I do not think you will find a hack for this at the moment...

Just use your original product code, but that is just a beginning of nightmares. Bluetooth does not work with GPS devices. That is a present from Microsoft. You would think with new version compatibility would improve. Well, let's just wait for M-soft updates.

@peralex:
That's complete nonsense!
You just need to pair the wizard with the gps, assign a new outgoing port (COM6 by default) DO NOT CHECK THE SECURE CONNECTION CHECKBOX!
Turn off the wizard, turn it on, now start TTN5.21 WITHOUT manually enabling BT. (TTN enables it for you) Then select 'other BT GPS' on COM6 and voila, wait for a fix and navigate away.
@Topicstarter
Your TTN5 product key should work with 5.21.

well thats the thing i need a crack so i dont have to enter a product code, because the ttn5 is a copy i dont have a product code!

Wow, I did not know that you have to go through the whole voodoo ritual to enable simple GPS, but thanks, I will try it.

peralex said:
Wow, I did not know that you have to go through the whole voodoo ritual to enable simple GPS, but thanks, I will try it.
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Remember to stick a needle in your styrofoam dummy gps receiver before switching the real thing on!

By word simple I did not mean "styrofoam" and from respect to this forum I am not going into BS with you MoFo.

I've been using the Atom since early Jan and TomTom 5.21 is the program thats not working, it's also a program that I really badly need.
But I am having big problems trying to get it to work
I've got a crack version and it installs fine but when it comes to selecting a voice.. it always freezes and goes no further.
I've been trying for days and nights but i'm getting nowhere
Can someone please help or advise me!!
Many thanks.

peralex said:
By word simple I did not mean "styrofoam" and from respect to this forum I am not going into BS with you MoFo.
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Dude, keep your shirt on. Try reading a post for a change before losing the temper and you would have noticed the trailing smiley in my post.

Invisible Sense said:
I've been using the Atom since early Jan and TomTom 5.21 is the program thats not working, it's also a program that I really badly need.
But I am having big problems trying to get it to work
I've got a crack version and it installs fine but when it comes to selecting a voice.. it always freezes and goes no further.
I've been trying for days and nights but i'm getting nowhere
Can someone please help or advise me!!
Many thanks.
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Writing a little step by step guide for a working TTN 5.21 installation, I'll post it in about 3 or 4 hours, I'm at work now... I'll try and answer all PM's as well by then.

TTN 5.21 on wizard (originally SD install of 5.0):
- Insert Memorycard into PPC and ,in case of WM5, cancel installation.
- Connect PPC to PC and run the 5.21 update (available on tomtom.com)
- When installed, activate (or "activate" :wink: )
Use GPS instruction above and navigate away. Easy, isn't it?
If it's not working, post it, I'll see if I can help.[/b]

i installed tomtom 5.21 on sd card, then start the 4 (i think) cab files from folder 2577, place then on device. you will have to do a reset with one of the files, it tells u when. then goto programs and run tomtom. thats it. been working all day no probs, just need a phone that works now.?
dont forget the blue tooth peairing, like u have been told above.

there are many guides on TTN5 on WM5 on this forum, i have read & added to some of them.
* 5.21 IS Version 5, so your version 5 key should work fine
* Bluetooth should be paired, open a port, then add in TTN as "other BT GPS on port XX"
* If TTN hangs when you start do a google for tomtom5 currentmap.dat (or search this forum)
* you DO NOT need to install 5.0 then upgrade
* you CAN just install the 4 CAB files direct to your PDA without using a PC

FOR THE PPL THAT NEED THAT"""FILE"""" TO MAKE IT WORK
email me [email protected] and il email it to you

I thought i should post in this thread being as tho I had loads of problems getting thins to work on my wizard but now it's done it works a treat. Here's how i did it:
1. Installed the 4 .cab files from the "2577" folder into the root of my mini s
2. coped the GB map onto my mini sd card
3. updated to 5.21 (i've read that you dont have to install version 5 first but i did and it work for me). To update i installed the 2 .cabs files
4. soft reset
5. create a "tomtom" folder and put it in "my documents"
6. in the "tomtom" folder put your voice files that you want to use also make sure that the "currant map" file is in there
7. pair your gps receiver with your mini s. Create outgoing port 6 then tick the serial port box.
8. start tomtom and setup etc choose "other gps unit" and select port 6
thats it it worked for me. tomtom will switch on your bluetooth automatically. it took me a while but it's simple once your've done it. I'ce hard reset me mini s a couple of times now and reinstalled tomtom and it's worked no problems.
cheers

I am having major problems with TT5 and my mini s. I have tried everything suggested and can get TT5 working but not 5.1 or 5.2 (just freezes when selecting a voice). However TT doesn't see my bluetooth gps. COM6 just doesn't appear in the list of COM ports available in the TT gps setup.
Any ideas?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I had the same problem but then did the following:
1. On your desktop, launch Notepad.
2. Type & \Storage Card\XXXXXX_map\ (don't forget to add the final back slash and have a space between the "&" and the first backslash. (XXXX = the name of your map directory on ur SD card)
3. Save the file as CurrentMap.dat. Make sure it doesn't end up as CurrentMap.dat.txt!
4. Create a folder on your KJam \My Documents\TomTom
5. Copy your newly created CurrentMap.dat file from your desktop into \My Documents\TomTom on your wizard
Soft reset - hopefully it now works!

thanks for all,
finally, i had got it working.
BUT what folder i can Delete after all working?
thanks

Hi all. I’m having a real problem with my xda mini s and Bluetooth. After reading through the advice her got it working with Tomtom turning on Bluetooth and connecting to the receiver. After the mini s was turned off overnight Tomtom wouldn’t turn on Bluetooth, and turning it on manually was no good, as Tomtom wouldn’t connect to the receiver (see earlier post).
After much messing around did a hard reset and reinstall and all was fine, until the next day, when after the mini s was turned off overnight Tomtom wouldn’t turn on Bluetooth, and turning it on manually was no good Etc Etc!!
Does anyone know what is going on as I don’t want to have to do a reinstall ever morning!! Should I have kept my XDA2?
Hope you can help, as I don’t have much hair left as it is.

Cannot pair XDA Mini S and BT77 GPS via bluetooth

I've been just about everywhere trying to get an answer to this, but no joy so far. I have just bought an O2 XDA Mini S PDA (ROM 2.21.4.1 WWE) running Windows Mobile 5 and a BT77 GPS receiver from Ebay. The problem is I can't get them to pair via bluetooth - this is what happens:
1. the XDA detects "BT GPS" (with a question mark icon)
2. the setup process invites me to select this device
3. I am asked for the "0000" access code
4. I then select "Serial Port" service (the only option)
5. Moving on to COM Ports tab - I create a new Outgoing Port and allocate it to COM 6 or 7 (I've tried both)
I've tried, methodically, every permutation available via the setup facility(secure/insecure pairing via check box, deletion and reset of XDA and GPS in between each try, COM 6/COM 7, etc.), but the GPS device does not pair (i.e. GPS BT indicator continues to flash every 3 seconds or so).
I know that the BT77 is OK because I've had it working nicely in Autoroute 2005 with a BT dongle in my laptop. Incidentally, I have TomTom Navigator 5.21 installed on the XDA.
I've scoured the online forums for an answer to what seems to be not an uncommon problem, but I can't find one. Is there perhaps a utility to fix this or a registry setting which can be changed maybe - I'm completely stumped!!! Can anyone help.............please?
Dave

i am having the same problem... tried installing BTH but that program does not even bother to show up
:?:

I guess the com 6/7 is unavailable. In my o2 mini with windows mobile 2003, i use com8 to pair, and working perfect. Try some software, such as gps viewer, to indicate the available com.

okay.. thanks.. will try now

sorted!!
I've found out how to fix this, but I had to buy GPSDash to do it (you may not if you can get a free version):
To get XDA to pair with BT77 via bluetooth -
1. use XDA bluetooth settings to set "BT GPS" to use COM7 - the BT77 will not pair by doing this;
2. install GPSDash2 (I did it by copying CAB file to memory card touching it with stylus in File Explorer or Total Commander 2 or and change settings of GPSDash to use COM7 (this is a handy app, but it's really
there to enable TomTom to find BT77 - not sure HOW it works, but who cares!!);
3. Run TomTom and configure GPS settings to use "Other GPS" and COM0;
4. find navigator.cfg (installed in \Program Files\Navigator) and copy it to PC;
5. using Ultraedit (hex editor),change 0 in "COM0" to 7 and then overwrite navigator.cfg on phone with
new version;
6. Run TomTom - it should pair with the BT77
Like I said, I bought a copy of GPSDash for a few quid - it's a nice little app to have for SatNav anyway, but you might be able to get a trial version or something - you don't have to run it or have it sat in memory for the GPS to pair, but it being there makes all the difference!!
Hope this sorts it for you
D

i, as an electronics engineer, have experienced that if anything can go wrong it will go wrong. thats exactly what happened with my installation of ttn5 n pairing of bt77.
now i can proudly say that i have done it and its working fine except for the POIs which i deleted myself. anyway, while pairing the bt77, i just chose factory reset for ttn5 and it detected the device automatically. but i think the Bluetooth tools are really handy by thus german dude. i havent tried but i think he will answer questions in english, supposedly.
i think i will pass on my knowledge to others so .... ask! 8)
n yea.. thanks to tomtom, i hope i never get lost again :lol:

still cant get it
i have followed instructions above but still no luck
i have gpsdash2 working great but tom tom wil still not pick up my bluetooth gps....
PLEASE HELP!!!

MDA compact tomtom 5 cant see my GPS - please help

Have spent a long time trying to get my tomtom5 navigator working on my mda and now have it all going lovely - however I cant get my bluetooth reciever to be seen by tomtom. It is one of the BT-77 one that you see loads of on Ebay - did used to have it working with my old phone but not this one?
Any ideas - cant give up now!
Thanks
ROger

I have the same problem with an xdalls with a BT338 bluetooth gps.
I can get it to pair up. Tomtom5 does not see it though. Been thru all the settings that i can thing of.... i have the blue light flashing fast and then just logs off.
Paul

I have the BT-77 (also from ebay) and it works perfectly with the TomTom 5.21 software...
I had trouble with it initially too- it's to do with setting the right COM ports.
To get things working, I downloaded and installed Pocket Bluetooth Tools:
http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/ Download version 1.0.1.2
Delete any existing pair that you may have with the GPS receiver...
Re-pair the device with the above software installed, and now you will get an iconic menu, use the serial port option and select an available COM port. Complete pairing procedure as per on screen instruction.
Now start up TomTom and go to GPS options in preferences- select 'other bluetooth device' and now you should see the something called 'BT on COMx' x being the port you assigned earlier of course. Complete configuration.
Wait for the receiver to get a fix and you should be ready to go.
I've used the Pocket Bluetooth Tools many times on different variants of the Magician and has work everytime.

Hi
thanks for the info - but still nothing
cant cope anymore
will buy a whole new system i think!
Thanks anyway
Roger

HELLO!
Well at last it works - not really sure why?
But I dont care it works!
thanks for the help
Roger

Hi!
Just registered to try and find out how to get my MDA II working with a bluetooth GPS and I find this thread. Thank you for the link to the bluetooth tools it seems to have worked a treat.

Cool. Glad it is working for you guys.
The software also works well with using Bluetooth and ActiveSync.