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jam and tomtom3 BT GPS

any body use the tomtom BT gps on the jam? any problem?
cheers

I use it with my bluetooth GPS (v 3.07)... No problem
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Largo

how do you get tom tom working ?
it keeps telling me to instal maps, wich i already did

Did you use official map installs or warez?

the map that comes with the tom tom software, you first install the navigator app and then you can install maps, then i install the netherlands and want to start tom tom on my mda and it says that i should install maps from the cd first

I had this, I think it happened because I installed everything at once without clicking the "ok" buttons on the PDA after each app installed (i.e it installs about 5 things, tom tom nav, tom tom gps, tom tom wizard, tom tom maps etc). If you dont click ok after each one it can get confused and not install the map.
Uninstall the map using activesync add/remove, then re-install it from the cd, making sure to click ok on the pda if it asks you.
If that doesnt work uninstall the whole lot using activesync, soft reset, then install from scratch but make sure to keep an eye for ok buttons on the pda while installing.
Also make sure you have enough memory, the maps are big (16mb, 32mb, 64mb and 128mb...dont know how big the netherlands one is).
Jez.

well its working now i think it was because the memory card i installed it on was not empty, i used an empty card now and everything is working

I cannot get it to install completely, as soon as i click on install it finds my JAM and an error message appears saying something about "File hierarchy" and tomtom support say that JAM is not a compatible phone for the navigator system. Can anyone help

anybody try the tomtom BT GPS?

works good for me with tomtom3 and blue tooth tomtom GPS.
first i had problem to install but it was because i use a USB hub.tomtom need a direct connection to install (there is a faq on TomTom site).
after to connect the bluetooth GPS ,you open Tom tom navigator , you ve got to go on the icone GPs state, then in Gps Folder choose "TomTom Wireless GPS" in the first window and "Bluetooth GPS" in the second.
good luck...

my jam always seems to freeze on tomtom 3.07 after a while im on v1.11 and bluetooth patch using an globalstat BT GPS :\ fecking thing

Brrrr Freezing again!
gazzaman2k said:
my jam always seems to freeze on tomtom 3.07 after a while im on v1.11 and bluetooth patch using an globalstat BT GPS :\ fecking thing
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Your freezing problem is prob because of your choice of memory cards, certain cards work well some not @ all, lotsa threads about this.

yeah i just found that out i have a peak ultra 60x high speed 1gb sd and a 256mb simpletech one the simpletech one works great but yet the 1gb one freezes

I am using the TomTom BT GPS w/ my Jam too.
But I am not using the Tomtom software (since I found Routis V2 is much better for voice prompt and routing in US). I don't even need to install the GPS driver. Just pair it once and it will connect eveytime I open up my GPS software.

Four things about Tom Tom on JAM:
1. It seems to be equally as buggy as the rest of the JAM so no knowing when wierd stuff happens whether or not it is TomTom or the JAM or something else. That said when you do get it going, it does work nicely most of the time. Some intermittent weird behaviour:
- sometimes won't change maps
- keeps turning JAM back on when I turn it off. Have to close TT3 to get it to stop.
- without a power source, screen keeps going dark
- occassional BT issues
2. When TomTom doesn't see the maps at all but you know you've installed them, make sure you haven't deleted a file in the root of your SD card called "ignore_my_docs" which is a zero byte file that is hidden. This caused me a bit of pain for a while.
3. Because of my previous issue, I discovered when I emailed TomTom support that TomTom doesn't in fact support this release on the Magician and won't help you if you tell them that is what you have. So if you do need support make sure you give them the name of a device that they do support.
4. TT3 user interface leaves a lot to be desire IMHO, and the one thing that drives me nuts is that I have this SD card full of wonderful maps that I have paid for yet I can't simply type in an address just to look at the map, I have to pretend to make a journey, connect the GPS, blah, blah, blah. The only way around this I found is that if you keep address information in your contacts, you can select the "Show TomTom map" option.

I've TT3 3.07 on my magician with an adapt bt gps and it works fine. You do have to shut down the application as stated above, the device will keep switching on if you don't. But one problem is irritating: I live in Belgium where there is a general speed limit of 120 Km/h. I set the prefs so that the safe speed warns me showing no map but only arrows. If I drive too fast for a while the QTek S100 switches off and sometimes back on if I slow down under 120 Km/h. I didn't have this prob on my other, wired, device.

Will TomTom Navigator 5.x work with the Universal?

Hi, I'm hoping to get the new Windows Mobile 5 device dubbed the HTC Universal, AKA o2 xda Exec.
TomTom tell me TomTom Navigator 5 is NOT compatible with it.
www.mobilefun.co.uk state that it is compatible.
Some people on forums say they have 5.1 working with the device.
Other people state the Bluetooth won't lock in.
Does anyone here know the truth?

Yes it will work
It works. I use TT 5.1 about every day (via a bluetooth receiver). Here's the instructions to install the program.
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=28171&highlight=
Go about half way down.
To install your BT GPS receiver. First pair the device. Then add a new COM Port under the Bluetooth settings. You want to add an OUTGOING port. I usually specify it as COM0. Then start up TT5, go into GPS configuration, selct "Other BT Receiver", then select COM0 from the menu. TOMTOM will automatically start up BT (it doesn't have to on before you launch the program), find the already paired receiver and start communicating with (give it some time though. the whole process takes about 30 seconds to a minute).
Hope this helps.

Cool, thanks!
And finally... I assume the Universal can support 2 simultaneous bluetooth connections? E.g. can I use TomTom with the bluetooth GPS at the same time as speaking on a bluetooth car kit?

To keep things simple
Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps

Received my T-Mobile UK MDA PRO today. I can confirm that TomTom 5.1 DOES work great on it with any bluetooth GPS device, although it was a few hours before I stumbled upon a thread in this forum which had instructions on how to get it working

jasjar works fine with tt5.1 and can connect at same time with gps,headset and many bluetooth devices

Re: To keep things simple
mikeycollins13 said:
Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps
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Yes it does. I have 5.0 running on my JASJAR now. Haven't upgraded to 5.1 yet in case it breaks something.

just replace the tomtom navigator.exe with the 5.1 version, all done.

How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?

How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?

Re: How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
mikeycollins13 said:
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
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It does work, if you follow the guide in this thread exactly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386
However, I had to use COM4 instead of COM0.
I also had a problem where I connected everything to the right COM port, could see TomTom accessing the GPS device by the LEDs, but still "no GPS device found!" - it seems TomTom likes your GPS device better if it's actually locked onto a signal (so go outside!), give all this a try

...talking of TTN5....
Has anyone had any success getting TT working with the Wired GPS mouse? Is there a way to connect it to the Exec...?(mini USB to serial connector?)
If the 2 can be physically connected, does the software see it/connect up properly?
TIA
cheers
Paul

FYI, I emailed TOMTOM about the installer crashing, and guess what they said. "TOMTOM 5 is not supported on the IMATE JasJar."
What a load of cobblers. It works perfectly well if you install it using the cab files. TOMTOM support is the biggest load of s**t I have ever come across.

JJ works fine with the following:
1) Navigon MN 5
2) TT 5.1
3) OnCourse Navigator
4) iGuidance
These have been tried and tested.

Just cause it's not supported it doesn't mean they don't think it'll work. it just means that they won't help you fix it if it goes wrong becuase they have not tested on that platform. always worth a try regardless of what the vendor or devlopers say!

Another MDA Pro with TT5
I just got an MDA Pro a couple of weeks ago, and being the fool I am, bought a copy of Tom Tom 5 from Fleabay (doh!).
On receipt, I could not get the software to load from my PC, and when trying to copy over the cab files manually, the ttn.cab file will not load on the PDA. On closer inspection, this has got something to do with 'Bekonl' so appers I have wasted some money on cracked software that does not work.
Is this right? Or if I can obtain an alternative ttn.cab file, will it load, if so will it be locked? I was just looking for a reasonable low priced SatNav solution - but this is proving to be harder than I thought!

For those of you coming from a WM2003 device you can simply install TomTom on a memory card on that. Take the memory card out and put in Universal. It works. That's it.

I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.

Tuscan said:
I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.
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If the ttn cab fails to install try this;
uninstall all tomtom entries from remove programs.
Remove sd card from device
install gps.cab
soft reset (this is the important bit)
install ttn.cab

JJ
JJ works fine with Oziexplorer, Tomtom5x
:wink:

Cannot pair XDA Mini S and BT77 GPS via bluetooth

I've been just about everywhere trying to get an answer to this, but no joy so far. I have just bought an O2 XDA Mini S PDA (ROM 2.21.4.1 WWE) running Windows Mobile 5 and a BT77 GPS receiver from Ebay. The problem is I can't get them to pair via bluetooth - this is what happens:
1. the XDA detects "BT GPS" (with a question mark icon)
2. the setup process invites me to select this device
3. I am asked for the "0000" access code
4. I then select "Serial Port" service (the only option)
5. Moving on to COM Ports tab - I create a new Outgoing Port and allocate it to COM 6 or 7 (I've tried both)
I've tried, methodically, every permutation available via the setup facility(secure/insecure pairing via check box, deletion and reset of XDA and GPS in between each try, COM 6/COM 7, etc.), but the GPS device does not pair (i.e. GPS BT indicator continues to flash every 3 seconds or so).
I know that the BT77 is OK because I've had it working nicely in Autoroute 2005 with a BT dongle in my laptop. Incidentally, I have TomTom Navigator 5.21 installed on the XDA.
I've scoured the online forums for an answer to what seems to be not an uncommon problem, but I can't find one. Is there perhaps a utility to fix this or a registry setting which can be changed maybe - I'm completely stumped!!! Can anyone help.............please?
Dave

i am having the same problem... tried installing BTH but that program does not even bother to show up
:?:

I guess the com 6/7 is unavailable. In my o2 mini with windows mobile 2003, i use com8 to pair, and working perfect. Try some software, such as gps viewer, to indicate the available com.

okay.. thanks.. will try now

sorted!!
I've found out how to fix this, but I had to buy GPSDash to do it (you may not if you can get a free version):
To get XDA to pair with BT77 via bluetooth -
1. use XDA bluetooth settings to set "BT GPS" to use COM7 - the BT77 will not pair by doing this;
2. install GPSDash2 (I did it by copying CAB file to memory card touching it with stylus in File Explorer or Total Commander 2 or and change settings of GPSDash to use COM7 (this is a handy app, but it's really
there to enable TomTom to find BT77 - not sure HOW it works, but who cares!!);
3. Run TomTom and configure GPS settings to use "Other GPS" and COM0;
4. find navigator.cfg (installed in \Program Files\Navigator) and copy it to PC;
5. using Ultraedit (hex editor),change 0 in "COM0" to 7 and then overwrite navigator.cfg on phone with
new version;
6. Run TomTom - it should pair with the BT77
Like I said, I bought a copy of GPSDash for a few quid - it's a nice little app to have for SatNav anyway, but you might be able to get a trial version or something - you don't have to run it or have it sat in memory for the GPS to pair, but it being there makes all the difference!!
Hope this sorts it for you
D

i, as an electronics engineer, have experienced that if anything can go wrong it will go wrong. thats exactly what happened with my installation of ttn5 n pairing of bt77.
now i can proudly say that i have done it and its working fine except for the POIs which i deleted myself. anyway, while pairing the bt77, i just chose factory reset for ttn5 and it detected the device automatically. but i think the Bluetooth tools are really handy by thus german dude. i havent tried but i think he will answer questions in english, supposedly.
i think i will pass on my knowledge to others so .... ask! 8)
n yea.. thanks to tomtom, i hope i never get lost again :lol:

still cant get it
i have followed instructions above but still no luck
i have gpsdash2 working great but tom tom wil still not pick up my bluetooth gps....
PLEASE HELP!!!

TOMTOM on rw6828 , anyone done it ?

G'day,
I am trying to install TomTom v5.21 onto the rw6828 without much luck.
Tried to copy cab files and get instal unsucessful when running.
Tried to install from PC and get an error that setup.exe encountered an error and the application closed.
Any help appreciated
Cheers,
Matt

on Atom I did it. I use cracked version 5.2.1 and maps for eastern europe.
http://4pda.ru/forum/uploads/img-10857-tt_navigator_ppc_521.rar
(with russian voices)
if you need install instruction - I will translate

Have progressed
Ok..I managed to install the application but I am unable to install the maps now.
I am not sure if I need to start again, as I installed the app first then ran the wizard, it came up with no maps found, I then copied the map and config file to the storage card , when I click on the cab it thinks for a while then reports install unsuccessful.
Any help appreciated

write the correct path in config file (thats locate in "My documents")
I am sure, that the name of your storage card is different with current config.

Problem with GPS Reciver on Atom XDA with Tomtom
Hello, i've installed Tomtom 5.21 and the maps and everything is ok. but i can't make the link between my gps reciver (Royaltek Star III) and the atom XDA. I've installed the partnership in the settings but it doesn't connect with the antenna. I've seen in my other pda (ipaq hx4700 and ipaq hx2790) that there is a bluetooth manager in the connection setting but there is non in the atom xda. Do you know what's the solution ?
Thanks

kropotov, what is the procedure to install your version of tomtom ?? and how do you change the path in currentmap.dat ??? THX in advance

solal
actualy I use cracked version 5.21 from www.4pda.ru
to run the program, you must
1. copy several files to Mydocument (include config file)
2. copy map to card
3. copy application to program files.
When you run application, it look to config in my documents.
So in different devices, you have different names of storage card (Storage, Memory card, SD card, CF card e.t.c.) you must edit config (storage name) to correct path to map files.

OK i am going to try I'll let you know thx

cookie,
i also own an rw6828. i purchased an HP iPAQ bluetooth receiver for it and am having the same issue as dragsterbox. that is i cannot seem to pair the receiver to the rw6828 (which is the same as the O2 Atom). what i would like to know from you is what gps receiver you are using and how you successfully paired the two. no-one has been able to diagnose, even on other forums.
i had no problems installing my version of tomtom on the phone though. i simply copied all installation files to the sd card and tapped the .cab files to install. program (v5) seems to work fine. it is just that the phone and gps receiver dont pair (which is dragsters issue). i am in australia also.
regards,
danield11

Daniel,
Never got Tom Tom working, but got Destinator happening.
Follow this link to have the GPS recognised
http://www.mtekk.com.au/Forums/tabid/56/forumid/29/postid/58463/view/topic/Default.aspx
This worked and solved by issues. I am using a HP IPAQ GPS

Map of India
Hi every Buddy
Tell me is there any software which can Guide to Travel in India
THANKING IN ADVVVVVV

Hey everyone,
I have finally got my gear (HP iPAQ rw6828 & HP iPAQ Bluetooth GPS Receiver) talking to each other using TomTom Navigator 5 on Windows Mobile 5!
I thought I would post what worked for me in case I could possibly assist any others out there with the same issue. From what I have seen there have been a couple. If I have helped, I would love to hear from you!
If you have had many attempts at this, I would recommend you clear all previous bluetooth pairings, installations and GPS settings then do a soft reset at the minimum. A hard reset is preferable (be sure to backup all contacts, etc to a computer before doing so!).
1. Install TomTom on your device. DO NOT pair the bluetooth receiver yet!
2. Go to Start, Settings, System, GPS.
3. Set GPS program port to COM0.
4. Set GPS hardware port to COM7. Tap OK to exit. DO NOT pair the bluetooth receiver yet!
5. Go to Start, TomTom Navigator.
6. Configure TomTom and your connection as Other Bluetooth Receiver and select COM0 (the GPS program port) as it should be available now (it was never previously available to me in all my other efforts!).
7. Exit TomTom Navigator.
8. NOW pair the bluetooth receiver in Start, Settings, Connections, Bluetooth. Switch bluetooth on and then on the Devices tab select New Partnership. Once found select the bluetooth receiver and tap Next. Enter the required passcode and tap Next. Check the Serial Port box and tap Finish. BEFORE creating bluetooth COM ports go to the next step.
9. Tap OK to go back to Settings then System tab and GPS.
10. Set GPS program port to None. If you do not do this, you will not be able to set the incoming port as COM0 in your Bluetooth settings. We will come back and change it again later. Tap OK to exit.
11. Go back to the Connections tab and click Bluetooth.
12. On the COM Ports tab select New Outgoing Port. Select your GPS receiver and tap next. Select COM7 (the GPS hardware port) and tap Finish.
13. Now select New Incoming Port and select COM0. If you cannot do this, it is most likely you skipped step 10. Tap Finish to exit.
14. Tap OK to go back to Settings then System tab and GPS.
15. Set GPS program port back to COM0. Tap OK to exit then close the settings window.
16. Startup TomTom Navigator and... VOILA! You should be seeing your current location in a matter of seconds!
The truly bizarre thing about my 3 weeks of attempting to get this to work was that I had actually performed all the above steps but possibly in different order (well all apart from the changing around of the GPS program ports in that particular way!). I could never get COM0 as a port in TomTom. So I highly recommend following these instructions to a T if you are having serious trouble like I was. I managed to put all the information I had gathered from various forums, HP support and colleagues at HP (yes I work for HP!!!) together and come up with a RELATIVELY simple way of doing it! In the age of Plug n Play, this seems like a very laborious way to do things. Couldn't someone make an easier way???
Many thanks to all that had responded in my desparation. You all have in one way or another assisted in getting this to work for me. My faith in the PDA world has been restored!
I think my next purchase will definitely need to have an inbuilt receiver :wink:
Happy Trails Everyone!

It drives me crazy !
Hello,
I also own a rw6828. When I installed Tomtom 5 on my pocket pc from the ttn.cab file, the install works. I can launch the product, but it says I need an activation code. When I then replace the exe by the c---k one (which works for a colleague, but not having a rw6828), then it fails... Would you have any idea plse ? Which c---k should I be using ? Where can I find one ?
Thks for your help as this issue is driving me crazy and I am nearly regretting having bought that device !!!
Thanks !

Re: It drives me crazy !
sibertoul said:
Hello,
I also own a rw6828. When I installed Tomtom 5 on my pocket pc from the ttn.cab file, the install works. I can launch the product, but it says I need an activation code. When I then replace the exe by the c---k one (which works for a colleague, but not having a rw6828), then it fails... Would you have any idea plse ? Which c---k should I be using ? Where can I find one ?
Thks for your help as this issue is driving me crazy and I am nearly regretting having bought that device !!!
Thanks !
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Version 5.21 does not need activation in wm5 devices
Here is a very simple tutorial:
connect device via A/sync
run TomTom installer from desktop install via Benelux and tick "install the application".
By default it will install to main memory(whether you select SD or not)
copy your map to SD card putting raw map files into a folder called "TomTom".
If you have other maps you can create another folder called "TomTom1" and drop raw map files into there.
Pair your device with Bt GPS receiver, serial port should come up under partnership settings, make sure box is ticked.
Tap com ports tab and select New Outgoing Port, select com7
There is no need for an incoming Port!
Run TomTom and goto "Change Preferences" goto "Show GPS Status" selet BT receiver and select com7..... Done!

Great thanks
homer285,
Thanks a lot for your support. I have been having issues for 10 days and thanks to you, it is solved now !
Thanks !

What I did
Hello,
Just a quick note to describe what I did. For a reason I don't know, I never managed to install Tomtom 5.00 from the DVD, idem for 5.10 or 5.21. Therefore, I installed TTN from the sd card using a ttn.cab file. I directly install the 5.21 version with its patch. I did pair my BT GPS receiver and finally launch TTN 5.21 and had the pleasure to see it working. I was happy because I started regretting having bought this device.
My error was that I thought that I needed to patch the 5.00 version, then secondly install the 5.10, and finally install the 5.21 version.
Hope this helps and thx for your support.
Cheers
(HP iPAD rw6828, mini SD 1 Gb, Globalsat bt338, TTN 5.21)

there is already TTN 6 for WM5 and WM2003 exist

I need to backup my data and systems before even thinking about a new TT version :lol:
This is the reason why I asked in another post if there was a tool to do that, and I am under the impression that I need to add another softwarez to do so, ie there is no already installed tool on the ipaq rw6828, which, imho, is a shame !

backup? Why? TT6&maps can be installed in SD card

TT6
I installed TTN 5.21 on my device, and maps on my storage card. It's true that I could have installed on the storage card, but I was not asked the question...
Is TT6 already available ? What's the enhancements wrt TTN5 ? I may open another post...

TomTom Navigator 5 Install

I thought, after spending a couple of days wrestling with this issue, that others might find it useful. If I've posted it in the wrong place, then I'm sure Admin will correct it.
I recently sold my XDA 2, which had TomTom Nav 5 running on it with no problems. When I tried to install TT5 on my new Tytn using my laptop I got a "Windows has experienced a problem and needs to close" error. I Emailed TT who, unhelpfully, said TT5 is not compatible with that phone yet, sorry.
I started to explore other ways around the problem and, after connecting to the Tytn using Activsync and going to Add/Remove programs, clicked on TomTom and Activsync installed the backup on my laptop. It fired up fine, Great!! I thought, except there were no working voices. I then found a piece of software on TomTom's site called TomTom Home and used that to install the missing voices, except - despite the software saying they were installed - they still didn't work. In desperation, I copied the voice Files (there are 3 for each language) onto my memory card and then installed it in the Tytn. I then used the Tytn file explorer to find them, clicked on the Cab file and it self-installed. I then opened TT5 and - everything works! Technically, I'm not sure how I got here, but I'm happy with the result. Hope this helps you too.
John W