GPS Intermediate Driver - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Has anyone successfully had a navigation package running via the GPS ID (intermediate driver) that comes shipped with WM5 on an XDA Exec? I have enabled the feature using the registry change to set "Hide" to zero, and configured it to find my Bluetooth GPS receiver.
The software I developed (which uses the GPSGetPosition() API call, not a serial port) works perfectly well. But I have tried the Dell Navigation software and found that it will not work via the program port. My customers report the same (or similar) problems with TomTom Navigator 5 and CoPilot 5.
Obviously my next step is to try Navigon 5 (which works on my Axim x51 via the GPS ID) on the Exec and see if it works the same way, which would help me narrow down the fault to the driver or the nav software. But I just wondered if anyone has actually seen this working on the Exec?

i don't have a gps (yet ;-) but i would think that Pocket Streets (shipped with Autoroute) would support it, as it's a Microsoft application.

Well, the whole point of the way it works is that anything that works with a serial NMEA GPS output should support it. Just seems a little coincidental that between me and two customers we've now had three nav systems that don't like it, all on the same platform.

where?
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Bluetooth will not send/receive to my wireless GPS

:x :evil: I purchased a Leadtek wireless GPS receiver (model LR9537) and Navigator software for my IMate Pocket PPC 2003 Phone Edition device. I can bond to the GPS receiver but I cannot send or receive information - hence at the moment the software is unuseable.
I downloaded and installed the rom upgrade from the club imate website (which was supposed to fix the problem) but still no luck.
I contacted customer support in Nov 2004 and was told it would be looked in to, but to date have not got a reply from them with an answer. Frankly I am fed up with their customer service as they do not appear to be interested / able to help in solving problems of this type.
I went back to where I purchased the GPS equipment and they were unable to fix the problem. They even tried to talk with a nokia phone by bluetooth but it would not work either, so it narrows it down to being a problem with the bluetooth function.
Has anyone else had a similar problem, and if so have they been able to work a solution? I am eager to get this problem resolved and start using the (expensive) software which I purchased. Are there any patches or additonal downloads that I need to install or is it just purely a matter of configuring the device correctly?
Which navigation software are you using, what settings are you using for the gps? When you bonded the gps were you given the serial port option for the gps device?
I have the Destinator 3 software. I am not sure what setting I am suppose to use other than a baud rate of 4800 and NMEA protocol.
I also have the leadtek software that came with the GPS.
When I ask the Destinator 3 software to find the GPS it does a search and goes through the different baud rates and the different ports but comes up saying that it cannot find the GPS. The leadtek software also cannot find the GPS from its own receiver!
When I bonded to the GPS all I had to enter was a four digit pin - nothing else.
As a side issue I also find that I must not turn on the bluetooth before running an application otherwise it tells me that the port is in use. If I leave it turned off the blue light will start flashing once I start running the application.
Is there possibly a compatability problem?
My leadtek lr9537 arrived on my door step yesterday, and as yet i am unable to keep a steady BT conection to it from either my laptop or universal (in o2 clothes). The BT on the GPS seems to fall over as soon as it picks up a fix. I am also as yet unable to get a GPS signal to my pda either. I'm gonna have a good play with the settings buit it almost seems as if the BT on the device is dodgy.
i'll post back if i find more....

Will TomTom Navigator 5.x work with the Universal?

Hi, I'm hoping to get the new Windows Mobile 5 device dubbed the HTC Universal, AKA o2 xda Exec.
TomTom tell me TomTom Navigator 5 is NOT compatible with it.
www.mobilefun.co.uk state that it is compatible.
Some people on forums say they have 5.1 working with the device.
Other people state the Bluetooth won't lock in.
Does anyone here know the truth?
Yes it will work
It works. I use TT 5.1 about every day (via a bluetooth receiver). Here's the instructions to install the program.
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=28171&highlight=
Go about half way down.
To install your BT GPS receiver. First pair the device. Then add a new COM Port under the Bluetooth settings. You want to add an OUTGOING port. I usually specify it as COM0. Then start up TT5, go into GPS configuration, selct "Other BT Receiver", then select COM0 from the menu. TOMTOM will automatically start up BT (it doesn't have to on before you launch the program), find the already paired receiver and start communicating with (give it some time though. the whole process takes about 30 seconds to a minute).
Hope this helps.
Cool, thanks!
And finally... I assume the Universal can support 2 simultaneous bluetooth connections? E.g. can I use TomTom with the bluetooth GPS at the same time as speaking on a bluetooth car kit?
To keep things simple
Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps
Received my T-Mobile UK MDA PRO today. I can confirm that TomTom 5.1 DOES work great on it with any bluetooth GPS device, although it was a few hours before I stumbled upon a thread in this forum which had instructions on how to get it working
jasjar works fine with tt5.1 and can connect at same time with gps,headset and many bluetooth devices
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Tomtom 5.0 does NOT work with the Universal. Tomtom 5.1 Does. Hpoe this helps
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Yes it does. I have 5.0 running on my JASJAR now. Haven't upgraded to 5.1 yet in case it breaks something.
just replace the tomtom navigator.exe with the 5.1 version, all done.
How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
How on earth did you manage to get TT5.0 to work?
I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
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I have tried everything (all the above tricka and then some) and cannot get the right com port to show up from within Tomtom? Can you tell me step by step?
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It does work, if you follow the guide in this thread exactly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386
However, I had to use COM4 instead of COM0.
I also had a problem where I connected everything to the right COM port, could see TomTom accessing the GPS device by the LEDs, but still "no GPS device found!" - it seems TomTom likes your GPS device better if it's actually locked onto a signal (so go outside!), give all this a try
...talking of TTN5....
Has anyone had any success getting TT working with the Wired GPS mouse? Is there a way to connect it to the Exec...?(mini USB to serial connector?)
If the 2 can be physically connected, does the software see it/connect up properly?
TIA
cheers
Paul
FYI, I emailed TOMTOM about the installer crashing, and guess what they said. "TOMTOM 5 is not supported on the IMATE JasJar."
What a load of cobblers. It works perfectly well if you install it using the cab files. TOMTOM support is the biggest load of s**t I have ever come across.
JJ works fine with the following:
1) Navigon MN 5
2) TT 5.1
3) OnCourse Navigator
4) iGuidance
These have been tried and tested.
Just cause it's not supported it doesn't mean they don't think it'll work. it just means that they won't help you fix it if it goes wrong becuase they have not tested on that platform. always worth a try regardless of what the vendor or devlopers say!
Another MDA Pro with TT5
I just got an MDA Pro a couple of weeks ago, and being the fool I am, bought a copy of Tom Tom 5 from Fleabay (doh!).
On receipt, I could not get the software to load from my PC, and when trying to copy over the cab files manually, the ttn.cab file will not load on the PDA. On closer inspection, this has got something to do with 'Bekonl' so appers I have wasted some money on cracked software that does not work.
Is this right? Or if I can obtain an alternative ttn.cab file, will it load, if so will it be locked? I was just looking for a reasonable low priced SatNav solution - but this is proving to be harder than I thought!
For those of you coming from a WM2003 device you can simply install TomTom on a memory card on that. Take the memory card out and put in Universal. It works. That's it.
I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.
Tuscan said:
I am not unfortunately. I am coming from a Mk1 paper diary, a £3.99 map from the petrol station, and a bullet proof Nokia 6310i!
All help gratefully received though.
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If the ttn cab fails to install try this;
uninstall all tomtom entries from remove programs.
Remove sd card from device
install gps.cab
soft reset (this is the important bit)
install ttn.cab
JJ
JJ works fine with Oziexplorer, Tomtom5x
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Bluetooth GPS, T-Mobile MDA... May God Make This Thing Work

Ok I've pretty much tried everything, been browsing the boards for over 6 hours for solutions. I've tried everything and just flat out can not get my Bluetooth GPS to work with preetty much any software I've tried. Using the T-Mobile MDA USA model here with Windows Mobile 5.0.
I did the registry tweak and managed to get the GPS Icon in my connections section. Messed with all the settings there, no luck.
I'm using a Ambicom BT-GPS that I used to use with my IPAQ 6315. Worked flawlessly with IGuidance but no luck. The MDA see's the device, successfully pairs the device. But no matter what settings I try to use I just can't get anything good to happen here. Should I abandon the Ambicom GPS? Is it just not going to work with the MDA? Should I try other software? I'm not all about shelling out bucks for software that I'm not sure is going to work.
Is anybody out there using a working bluetooth GPS setup with the USA T-Mobile MDA? What are you using, what are you running and what hoops did you have to jump through to get it working? I don't mind spending a little bit of money if I know it's going to work.
You did not state which model ambicom gps receiver you have but have you tried the updated drivers here for wm5?
http://www.ambicom.com/support/installation/gps/index.htm
hope this helps
Sorry bout that, it's the basic 1.0 version, BT-GPS...
Apparantly they don't let me download it because I don't send them enough money. That only works with their version of the navigator which is basically the IGuidance software re-branded. I do however have the 2.1 version of IGuidance.
That may be your problem then - try to get wm5 drivers for your device - not sure where from.
I am not a gps expert but few of the readers have praised the holux 236 gps and works with the wizard - and has the new gps chip
see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44567&highlight=gps
For some reason, my first Holux GPSlim 236 did the same thing (Mapopolis this time). Surprisingly, an exchange did the trick. If you have a friend with a PDA, I'd suggest he try it too and see if it isn't a bad unit. That's the way I found out.
JB
I have had a huge problem with getting GPS software to work with my MDA... the only marginal success I had was when i got Tomtom Navigator working with my Holux GPSlim 236. At first it didnt work, and I thought I hit a road block. But I switched the outgoing Com ports and got it working. But then I realized that I only had the Great Britain maps, so i downloaded the California maps, but the software wont work. I gave up on Tomtom and am going another route. I really cant get it working. Here is the link where I got the software for Tomtom. All other programs wouldnt work because there is an incompatability with Windows Mobile 5.0. This file works. http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3410079 Good luck.
Going a bit off topic (and not very helpful), but i was amazed to find out the BT Handsfree and BT GPS works at the same time
I'm dead happy to be able to talk and use TomTom at the same time. Everyone i asked said you cant use to BT devices at the same time. Great stuff.
Yes I do enjoy the fact that BT handsfree and BT GPS work in conjunction on my Wizard... really nice.
As for the original poster's issues. I use iGuidance with my Wizard (8125) and it was a bit confusing to get going at first. This is what I had to do.
1. Pair the GPS and the Wizard
2. Select the Com Ports tab and set up a new OUTGOING port, it should default to com6. I would uncheck the secure connection box as I don't think you have to have a secure connection to your GPS, but thats just me. If it doesn't work try checking it.
3. In IGuidance select the tools, GPS options, COM Port, and set it to com 6 just like it defaulted to com 6 in the settings above.
4. Tap the GPS icon and see if you have data streaming over the BT GPS connection. Hopefully you do!
I find that iGuidance is a bit strange in that it wants to hit the GPS on the port so it actively goes to the GPS it just does not sit there and wait so that makes things a bit strange. Also you most likely need the 2.1.3.2NA version on your MDA. All other 2.1.3 versions have an issue and won't display the 3D view at all on QVGA devices... its a known issue that they have fixed in this version. Annoying as the DVD did not have this version on it and I ran into the problem and was annoyed until I went to their site and found the issue fixed.

Compatible Bluetooth GPS Devices for Atom

I have TomTom software installed on my Atom, I've tried using a Polstar Bluetooth GPS unit to see if that would work but it fails to read the correct Comm port on the atom.
Does anyone know if this is compatible with the Atom, or of any other GPS devices (bluetooth or cabled) that would work?
Hi there
i am working with GPSlim236 from HOLUX and it very good and easy to install.
cool, thanks.
What's the battery use like if in use? The problem is that the lighter socket in my car is 'dodgy' to say the least, so the longer the life before i have to charge the better
(hmm...I predict being guided somewhere, losing battery life on GPS, and getting lost....SatNav at its finest.......)
The BT-77 (Nemerix chipset) from e-bay also works really well, especially considering the price. I have used this in Australia, UK and the US and have had no problems pairing it with the Atom.
Battery life is also good, as I've used it for a whole day with no sign of running out.
sometimes to connect GPS device, you need to create new OUTGOING port, and pareing the device
Thanks jeremy_elman, I will investigate.
Kropotov, I can get it to pair ok, and I have tried setting outgoing ports. The problem is that it won't allow me to set the outgoing port to the correct COM port that I need for the GPS. It comes up with an error.
I checked up on this from Polstar and they said to adjust registry settings. But even this doesn't work and they couldn't give me any information with regards to compatability. But I know the Polstar one I had works as it was working on an iPAQ 6340, installing it as a cable GPS device and setting the baud rate. The outgoing com ports on bluetooth could be set to the relevant ones for the device, and pairing was straight-forward.
Problem with GPS Reciver on Atom XDA with Tomtom
Hello, i've installed Tomtom 5.21 and the maps and everything is Ok. but i can't make the link between my gps reciver (Royaltek Star III) and the atom XDA. I've installed the partnership in the settings but it doesn't connect with the antenna. I've seen in my other pda (ipaq hx4700 and ipaq hx2790) that there is a bluetooth manager in the connection setting but there is non in the atom XDA. Do you know what's the solution ?
I've the same problem than you for the outgoing ports, i can't choose the one i want and i can't find the good port in tomtom gps settings.
Thanks
kropotov said:
sometimes to connect GPS device, you need to create new OUTGOING port, and pareing the device
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same with u, kropotov. i use garmin gps10 with ATOM EXEC. work well and smooth.
dlawson5
it's very strange... i have all com ports free, and can choose all, include 8, that tomtom need. Do you have other bluetooth devices, pared with Atom?
I'm using a Garmin GPS10. To get around similar com port issues i install Franson's GPSGATE. A downloadable trial is available to try before you buy. The two advantages of this software solution is that you can nominate virtual com ports meaning you determoine the com port for the TomTom software and secondly you can use more than one GPS software package simultaneously. I run both Garmin Que (navigation) and OziExlorer (topographic and mapping) at the same time. You can't do this without GPSGate. Many bluetooth GPS devices drop their connections regularly. I find that GPSGate holds the connection better and reconnects quickly if it does drop. I highly recommend you try this before chasing around for different GPS devices.
John
Atom with BT GPS
I am using the Atom with the Holux GPSlim236 and it works like a charm.
Rated GPS battery life is 10Hrs and it uses the nokia 6xxx handphone battery so easy to charge and/or replace when battery gets old.
I had some problems using it initially 'cos built right into the Atom is a GPS management software that manages GPS connections apparently so that you can run more than one GPS application in the Atom and all the applications can share the GPS data. However I find that turning this on tends to lockup the GPS application (MapKing) and sometimes causes lost connections. TURN THIS OFF. Besides, I don't see myself using more than one GPS application (but that may change ! looking for a good track logging software - anyone knows one ?).
The other thing I noticed which makes the connection more reliable is to turn off the secure serial communication.
With those two settings off, works like a charm and no more problems !
O2 Atom with Holux GPSlim236 Bluetooth GPSr
Hi,
Not sure if this helps but I am able to get my Atom to work with my Holux BT GPSr using Garmin Que.
Here's the link to how I set it up : http://www.malsingmaps.com/forum/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=41060#41060
So far, it rocks!
O2 Atom with Holux GPSlim236 Bluetooth GPSr
Hi,
Not sure if this helps but I am able to get my Atom to work with my Holux BT GPSr using Garmin Que.
Here's the link to how I set it up : http://www.malsingmaps.com/forum/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=41060#41060
So far, it rocks!

Microsoft Autoroute 2007 GPS not working

Hi People,
Until the folks here @ XDA-DEV succesfully hack their way in the Shift to get :
- SD card access
- Bluetooth Access
- Wifi Access
- optional HDD access
it's still impossible to navigate using the WinMo part of this gem.
So.. I installed Microsoft Autoroute 2007 Europe, and tried to connect a bluetooth
GPS to the HTC shift.
- paired my HUDGPS (polaris brand.. also a Heads-Up-Display for in your car!!)
- pairing tells me I got two new serial ports, an SPP and serial port (com4 and com5)
- I start autoroute, configure it to use either com4 or 5, but fails. It says that the comport might actually
already be in use, or , the other port, it says : cannot open comport.
Usually, I'm not easily defeated, so I changed the comports in the device manager to 21 and 22 to
see if I could make it work this way.
Still no joy, it even deleted all comports without my consent, and had to de-pair and re-pair (aha!)
the Bluetooth GPS to get my comports back.
Even after that, I just cannot get Microsoft Autoroute 2007 to work with the BT GPS.
I will post more info (can I use other software etc...) soon, maybe someone already tried
to install navigation stuff and has a few comments.
Also, if you still own a fossil PDA like the Kaiser, checkout http://www.reperion.com/newclient
lucid said:
Also, if you still own a fossil PDA like the Kaiser, checkout http://www.reperion.com/newclient
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i don't want to disappoint you, but the WM side of the shift is a kaiser.
I haven't tried Microsoft's GPS navigation software, mainly because they don't have the maps (even if they did, it probably would be rather outdated) for my country.
For what it's worth, I have installed both Garmin Mapsource coupled with its nRoute program, as well as MapAsia's MapKing GPS navigation programs on my Shift, paired with my GSpace GPS receiver via BT, and both programs work. I use a "third party" gateway - Franson's GPSGate - as a go between, between the GPS receiver and both software.
Works flawlessly.
lucid said:
Even after that, I just cannot get Microsoft Autoroute 2007 to work with the BT GPS.
I will post more info (can I use other software etc...) soon, maybe someone already tried
to install navigation stuff and has a few comments.
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Automapa EU works well on vista side. Cheked with Rikaline GPS 6036 - SiRF Star III SOC v2 and GPS GB735 NAVIBE both without any problems
Sygic 7.53 and Igo 8 working fine on Vista side (with usb and bt gps receiver)
How do you use Igo on Vista?
cmonex said:
i don't want to disappoint you, but the WM side of the shift is a kaiser.
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I'm not dissapointed at all I actually own a Kaiser. It was more or less a joke, badly brought, I agree
By the way, thank you people for posting about your successes, this means I'm doing something wrong. How hard can it be to pair a GPS and use it ?
I'm using MS Streets and Trips 2008 (North American equivalent to Autoroute) with a Holux GPSlim240 and it is working flawlessly. I can't remember much but didn't have any issues/quirks during set up. I've just used it a couple of times to test but not since, 'cause I have a 7in touchscreen built-in nav in my car that has traffic updates through Sirius sat radio here (no need for internet), but I still like the option of course
ah ha
finally found somebody has same problem with GPS receiver with Autoroute 2007.
but seems there isn't a clear solution for this issue.
seems like the Autoroute is the problem, i tried with GPS Viewer with Correct port it recognises the gps unit and correctly indicates cordinates.
if i can't find solution soon i will try to find another software as successful users found.
Im the starter of this post, here's the promised update !
Autoroute 2007 just WON'T work on the Shift. I tried a million different combinations of COM ports and security settings, no joy,
As soon as I try to use another GPS program like VisualGPS CE it will connect to the bluetooth receiver just fine.
My best bet is that Autoroute 2007 needs a GPS receiver that is Microsoft Compatible in contrast with the other 99% GPS programs
Will download a trial of Automapa EU now. THanks everyone.
lucid said:
Im the starter of this post, here's the promised update !
Autoroute 2007 just WON'T work on the Shift. I tried a million different combinations of COM ports and security settings, no joy,
As soon as I try to use another GPS program like VisualGPS CE it will connect to the bluetooth receiver just fine.
My best bet is that Autoroute 2007 needs a GPS receiver that is Microsoft Compatible in contrast with the other 99% GPS programs
Will download a trial of Automapa EU now. THanks everyone.
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I've got it working with the Bluetooth TomTom GPS receiver.
No problems with it.
could you share with us your port settings and , by any chance, does your GPS say it's 100% NMEA 2.0 compliant ?
a creensie of your BT Comport section would be nice
cmonex said:
i don't want to disappoint you, but the WM side of the shift is a kaiser.
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Hmmm...does this mean a Kaiser ROM could be flashed to it?
NanoRuler said:
Hmmm...does this mean a Kaiser ROM could be flashed to it?
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No, it means it is technically the same hardware (qualcomm msm7200) with different HTC PID, different aux devices, etc. So ROMs are *NOT* compatibles.

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