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TOMTOM 5 compatible??

considering getting tomtom5 for my mda compact.
anyone know whether its compatible, has anyone got it?

Should be. TomTom 3 and 4 worked fine.
By the way, Bakonl's release of TomTom 5 was just posted on alt.binaries.warez.pocketpc.gps, along with a few maps.

Benelux map only.. :x

TT5 does work
and not only benlux maps are posted. italy, france, germany, spain, uk are posted as well. rest will be posted as well i guess.
anyway, waiting for my legal TT5 to arrive (with the bt gps), woei =)

I can't get it working... I tried installing in the program files and in the storage card directories but it crashes at the end of the tutorial, just after that the "Welcome to TomTom Navigator" message appears in the map screen.
I can't see the map nor the GPS is able to connect (TomTom "3" Navigator Wireless).
I can't find any registry entry, I modified the currentmap.dat in order to point to /storage card/italia-map.
Anyone was able to reproduce my problem and to solve it?

Yeah, I noticed there are a few maps out. I'd like Scandinavia tho Seems like a buggy version too.. Crashes often.

Yeah... reeeeally buggy, I tried to check the post in the alt.warez.pocketpc.gps newsgroup for infos about bugs/problems etc. but I can't find it in my nssp server and using the web I'm not able to see the post (I can just see the header) so... I still can't use it :lol: ; maybe it could be a bad installer, I noticed that sometimes it won't install some cabs from the cd, or maybe it's just the italian map which is corrupt... who knows? 8)

I guess the release on alt.binaries is a preview or beta version.
The official release of Tomtom 5 will be end of June.
Im still waiting for Destinator PN on emule...

Where can i find the TomTom 5?

I have installed TomTom 5 to see if it works, I'm unable to connect my BlueTooth GPS (Holux GPSlim 236). The port does not show up on the device list under Buzz WM2005.
Does anybody know how to change this?
Ikkuh

I have installed TomTom 5 , I'm able to connect my BlueTooth GPS (Holux GPSlim 236) on port 4
work OK for me !!!

JesperR said:
Where can i find the TomTom 5?
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www.tomtom.com
Stefan

bruxelles5 said:
I have installed TomTom 5 , I'm able to connect my BlueTooth GPS (Holux GPSlim 236) on port 4
work OK for me !!!
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I had the same problem.... go to the bluetooth com ports, change the GSM to use COM8.
Then start -> settings -> gps, on the first tab set com4 and on the second tab tom com8. The thrid tab should have the checkbox set.
Now reset your device.
Start tomtom, goto your GSM setup, choose Other bluetooth, select COM4.
Now exit tomtom and reset your device.
Start tomtom and wait a while (can take a few minutes for it to find the GPS).
This worked for me (you need the resets in order to detect the com ports!!)
Ikkuh

@Ikkuh,
How can I change the Com port settings on my MDA Compact? I can't seem to understand you're solution. I need Com 8 and TT5 only has 2,4,5 and 9.
Thanks in advance!

dickr43 said:
@Ikkuh,
How can I change the Com port settings on my MDA Compact? I can't seem to understand you're solution. I need Com 8 and TT5 only has 2,4,5 and 9.
Thanks in advance!
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There is a serial port multiplexer build in just for the GPS. It is under settings -> GPS, if you use this, you can create a virtual serial port, and attach it to the hardware GPS. If you do this and reset the device, the virtual GPS will show up in TomTom (in my case it did ;-) )
Ikkuh

I must admit dickr43 has got a point. Even though you are trying to be helpful, Ikkuh, it's a bit hard to understand.
Start tomtom, goto your GSM setup, choose Other bluetooth, select COM4.
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There IS no GSM setup in TT. Most likely you mean GPS?
There is a serial port multiplexer build in just for the GPS. It is under settings -> GPS, if you use this, you can create a virtual serial port
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Doesn't exist either. Must be some third party app you have installed...
dickr43,
Try removing your GPS pairing from the Magician. Go select the 'Bluetooth Setting' icon under Settings/System and make sure both the serial ports are activated. Note which COM port is 'Outbound', then re-pair with your GPS device. Start TT and in the GPS settings panel, you should get things running by selecting the COM port that was marked for Outbound.
Unless you are running some third party software with virtual BT COM ports, that should get you up and running. If you are, try each COM port one by one. Don't hurry through the ports, but give it time to connect. 5-10 seconds at least. Also make absolutely sure your GPS is within range and has a satellite fix, or you are wasting your time.

I cant use tomtom 5 as a route map
I just want to use it sometimes without the gps module is it possible. Because with the older version it was possible to select a GPS simulator.
THX :lol:

The "unofficial" versions of TomTom5 doing the rounds seem to have been taken from beta builds. I installed without any problems, but noticed a number of bugs (not recognising GPS, the program freezing, picking up wild GPS info, settings not sticking)... sometimes you'd think it was working, and you'd think you'd got it stable, but then they'd fall down.
I've tried 3 different versions doing the rounds right now and none of them are stable. I'll wait a month or so for a more finished release is available.

i got my hands on TT5 aswell, the program looks realy nice and lot improvement to TT3, but as mentioned above, it's not very stable, spontain exiting of TT5 is not cool when youre in the middle of no where.
my gps was recognized directley,
i just went to BT settings and checked Com5 and a messege apeared that i must bond with a compatible device, so i bonded with my GPS reciever and in the TT wizard i could chose Com5 and it connected right away, much easyer than TT3
regards.

Hi,
I am considering getting TOMTOM5 for my T-Mobile MDA Compact and would like to use this in my car. Does anyone know or can provide screen shots of what the display looks like? Is it easily readable while driving?
Thanks
Msuk

Ameo coming, GPS solutions?

Ordered today on upgrade and it arrives b4 1pm tomorrow.
As the Ameo has in built GPS do I just purchase TomTom 6 and install?
I didnt even know the Ameo had GPS as standard till after I ordered. Bonus, as I dont own a GPS device myself.

Spitwroot said:
Ordered today on upgrade and it arrives b4 1pm tomorrow.
As the Ameo has in built GPS do I just purchase TomTom 6 and install?
I didnt even know the Ameo had GPS as standard till after I ordered. Bonus, as I dont own a GPS device myself.
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I have been told Ameo GPS is disable, and won't be enable in the future as well, can All Ameo user confirm this?

Dutch Ameo has GPS. I checcked it with iGo2006.

T-mobile AMEOS GPS is great, I know it works with TomTom 6 and MN6 very well.
Regards
Rainer

Does TomTom 6 work well and is it responsive?

Dont know about TomTom but I tried it with GPS Tuner and it works verry good. Even had 4 sats inside the house really funny.
I just LOVE this device

BadKarma said:
Dont know about TomTom but I tried it with GPS Tuner and it works verry good. Even had 4 sats inside the house really funny.
I just LOVE this device
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Wait Wait, for those people who say their Ameo has GPS, are you using the UK version? I am only been told the UK version don't have GPS, but Ameo Germany or the rest should be fine. Please comfirm this.

wu5262 said:
Wait Wait, for those people who say their Ameo has GPS, are you using the UK version? I am only been told the UK version don't have GPS, but Ameo Germany or the rest should be fine. Please comfirm this.
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Hi wu. I'm having problems locking onto the satellites that it does pick up, but I've only tried indoors so far, so will go outside in a minute to test it out fully. Using TomTom6. But a reviewer on 4winmobile has bought a UK version too and has reported that TomTom5 works very well on his Ameo on com port 5 using the wired other device setting. Just a quick one...did you download updates via Quick GPS first or after, or not all? and do you activate anything else first or do you load TomTom up straight away? what version are u using?

mackaby007 said:
Hi wu. I'm having problems locking onto the satellites that it does pick up, but I've only tried indoors so far, so will go outside in a minute to test it out fully. Using TomTom6. But a reviewer on 4winmobile has bought a UK version too and has reported that TomTom5 works very well on his Ameo on com port 5 using the wired other device setting. Just a quick one...did you download updates via Quick GPS first or after, or not all? and do you activate anything else first or do you load TomTom up straight away? what version are u using?
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Well, firstly, i update the QUICK GPS first, then i just load TomTom, it work straight away

wu5262 said:
Well, firstly, i update the QUICK GPS first, then i just load TomTom, it work straight away
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OK just went outside and within 30 seconds I got a couple of satellites and before the minute was up I had locked into 5 or 6 satellites! It's working beautifully. Just remembered that I always had problems with weak signal where I live until I drive about 3 minutes away and then I get a load more satellites being locked into. So, UK AMEO DEFINATELY HAS GPS activated and works with TomTom 5 and 6.

mackaby007 said:
OK just went outside and within 30 seconds I got a couple of satellites and before the minute was up I had locked into 5 or 6 satellites! It's working beautifully. Just remembered that I always had problems with weak signal where I live until I drive about 3 minutes away and then I get a load more satellites being locked into. So, UK AMEO DEFINATELY HAS GPS activated and works with TomTom 5 and 6.
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Good to hear that !!!!! Looks like T-mobile UK don't know what they are talking about.....shame on them

I bought my Ameo few weeks back, can any one tell me what "Quick GPS" is for , i am a new GPS user. How can it get my location by connecting thought internet/phone? As i understand GPS information shoud be directly recieved from the satellite. Please correct me if i am wrong!
Thanks in Advanace

The QuickGPS application downloads the satelite positions, and helps you speeding up the process of getting the GPS fix.

UK Ameo Has GPS
My UK Ameo has GPS and it works fine with TomTom 5.21 (which I installed).
-Krip

...so, anyone has been able to use it with google maps? on which port? i haven't been able to get it together....
thanks for your feedback!
lutz

Spitwroot said:
Does TomTom 6 work well and is it responsive?
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Yes, TomTom works great on my Advantage. I went out and purchased the US/Canada package for $150. Love it.

lutzh said:
...so, anyone has been able to use it with google maps? on which port? i haven't been able to get it together....
thanks for your feedback!
lutz
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To my knowledge, no one has figured out how to get Google maps to work with GPS on the Athena. We all are using Microsoft Live Search for the PocketPc.

anilk said:
My UK Ameo has GPS and it works fine with TomTom 5.21 (which I installed).
-Krip
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Hi, I have just got a Ameo in the UK but can't get TomTom 5.2 working. Would you mind detailing the settings you used (both in the Windows GPS program and in the TomTom program)?
I also can't get the MS live search GPS to work. Does it work in the UK for you?
Thanks for your help.

UK Ameo TomTom5.2 works OK.
tfotherby said:
Hi, I have just got a Ameo in the UK but can't get TomTom 5.2 working. Would you mind detailing the settings you used (both in the Windows GPS program and in the TomTom program)?.
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My Mistake, TomTom 5.2 on a UK Ameo does work - It just looked like it wasn't because it hadn't found a fix yet. The TT5 error message ("GPS device not found" displayed in the top left corner) is a little misleading!
Once I got into a less built up area, after about 5 minutes, 4 satelites were found (none were found inside my office or in a bus or even in Reading Town Center).
This is good news!!!!!!!!!!!
PS: To help others, I had the Windows GPS settings set to:
* GPS program port: COM5
* GPS hardware port: (None)
* Baud rate: 4800
* Manage GPS automatically: ticked
And the TomTom5.2 GPS configurations set to:
* GPS hardware: "Other NMEA GPS"
* GPS baud rate: 4800
* GPS is connected to: COM5

tfotherby said:
My Mistake, TomTom 5.2 on a UK Ameo does work - It just looked like it wasn't because it hadn't found a fix yet. The TT5 error message ("GPS device not found" displayed in the top left corner) is a little misleading!
Once I got into a less built up area, after about 5 minutes, 4 satelites were found (none were found inside my office or in a bus or even in Reading Town Center).
This is good news!!!!!!!!!!!
PS: To help others, I had the Windows GPS settings set to:
* GPS program port: COM5
* GPS hardware port: (None)
* Baud rate: 4800
* Manage GPS automatically: ticked
And the TomTom5.2 GPS configurations set to:
* GPS hardware: "Other NMEA GPS"
* GPS baud rate: 4800
* GPS is connected to: COM5
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Not sure how much it matters, but the baud rate is supposed to be 9600.

TomTom GPS Issue

Hi..When I set up my GPS device on my m3100 Tomtom nav 6 will work fine. However the next time I use it tomtom fails to pick up the gps device. The only way I can then get it working is by removing the gps device & re-adding it.
Anyone come across a similar problem, used to work fine on my old m600.

i have come across the same problem. I have to wait for a long time for the device to be connect with the gps receiver. Sometimes i get connected however the receiver cannot get gps signals. Someone plz guide us???

i've got a 838Pro with TomTom V6.010 and The BT-74R Bluetooth GPS Receiver i pick up of ebay.
works great no problems !!!

yep i got a Generic ebay ($60 AUD) bluetooth GPS and the only problem i have is running the POIs with the maps causes tomtom to freeze up (using version 6.03)

My TomTom only freezes sometimes during start up, but i've notice this happens when i have alot of apps open running in the background.
however thanks to this site i no longer have this issue as i've have installed "HTC X-Button 1.5"
thanks.

I think my problem is different to others, it not that it can take a long time to connect its that It will only connect the frist time I try after adding the GPS device as a serial port. I have been using COM 0.

paul8811 said:
I think my problem is different to others, it not that it can take a long time to connect its that It will only connect the frist time I try after adding the GPS device as a serial port. I have been using COM 0.
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im also using COM0

the freezing issue went away on my TomTom (v6.0.30) when I installed AKU3.

Before I launch Tomtom, I have to start up VisualGPS which initializes the serial port and begins obtaining data from my Telenav GPS module. Try downloading it for yourselves - it's free!

Lancealot said:
Before I launch Tomtom, I have to start up VisualGPS which initializes the serial port and begins obtaining data from my Telenav GPS module. Try downloading it for yourselves - it's free!
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yeah ive used this one before too its quite handy to make sure the gps is all happy before running tomtom

Lancealot said:
Before I launch Tomtom, I have to start up VisualGPS which initializes the serial port and begins obtaining data from my Telenav GPS module. Try downloading it for yourselves - it's free!
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Ta will give that a go.

Just found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282857&highlight=Tomtom
Describes the problems better then I did so will try the fixes in that.

Internal GPS problem HTC P6500

Hi all,
I recently purchased a P6500 and I installed Igo 8.When I enter the gps config menu it says that gps could not be found;if i hit the auto search button the device freezes.
I installed Port splitter 1.11 and I managed to gain something...the device doesn't freeze anymore but it still can not find the gps.I have no idea how to set up the com ports....the program port..the hardware port..I am confused...
(I also inst. Igo 2006 and works ok.)
I appreciate any help!!

Xman556 said:
Hi all,
I recently purchased a P6500 and I installed Igo 8.When I enter the gps config menu it says that gps could not be found;if i hit the auto search button the device freezes.
I installed Port splitter 1.11 and I managed to gain something...the device doesn't freeze anymore but it still can not find the gps.I have no idea how to set up the com ports....the program port..the hardware port..I am confused...
(I also inst. Igo 2006 and works ok.)
I appreciate any help!!
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Hi, Xman -- I don't know this software and so probably can't really offer anything helpful. For what it's worth, the GPS seems to work fine on my P6500: both with Google Maps and with GPS-enabled photos on the HTC Camera app. Does your GPS work with those programs?
Sorry about your troubles!
Alan

I didn't try with Google maps because I'm interested in making Igo work .
At list tell me an app which can show me some info about the internal gps such as speed /the com port on which it's installed etc..
Thanks

Problem solved!!!!!!!
Solution? GPS Gate

I have also noticed the same problem running both IGO-2006 and I-GO 2008 on my 6500,on the other hand i have had no trouble whatsoever running Destinator 7 and Garmin ,i guess it's got something to do with the software and not the PPC itself which i must say has a very good GPS receiver.
Edit
Thanks for the GPS-gate idea.

Xman556 said:
Problem solved!!!!!!!
Solution? GPS Gate
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Hey Xman556,
I've having the same problem with my HTC 6500.
Could you please be kind to tell me how to set up the gps gate so it well work ok with the iGo8.
Thank you
Gigino

Well I think I rejoiced too early.Today I took a longer trip and wanted to check how my new solution works......after catching speed the gps started disconnecting an reconnecting until I had to turn it off for good.So almost back to square one.....anybody who can help?

gigino said:
Hey Xman556,
I've having the same problem with my HTC 6500.
Could you please be kind to tell me how to set up the gps gate so it well work ok with the iGo8.
Thank you
Gigino
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At input I selected WM GPS and after you hit open.
At output I have Gpsgate direct/virtual com2(all NMEA)/COM2/COM4
But as I said in my previous post...is not quite working.
Also you might check the franson's web site ..thy seem to have a nice support forum...if you find anything please share.

gigino said:
Hey Xman556,
I've having the same problem with my HTC 6500.
Could you please be kind to tell me how to set up the gps gate so it well work ok with the iGo8.
Thank you
Gigino
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You mean that you have also problems with the Igo8?If yes do you have the original Igo or the cracked one?

Xman556 said:
You mean that you have also problems with the Igo8?If yes do you have the original Igo or the cracked one?
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Hey Xman556,
it is a crack one at the moment untill I can get it to work properly then I'll buy it if not I'll just leave it.
The way I can get it to work is like this I start the iGo8 then I go to settings TMC and dp a search if return as no hardware fined then I go to GPS and put in the com port 4 and the speed 57800 and it work but if I do a soft rest the iGo8 well not work anymore until I change the GPS port in the PDA to a diffrent port like port 8 then the Igo8 well star and I have to do everything I did before go to TMC and so on if I try to go straight to the GPS without going to the TMC the system hang and I have to do a soft rest this is the way I got it working I'm using the version 4.1.506 if the Igo I tried the earlier version and it is the same problem I need a solution better than this.
Thank You
Gigino

As far as I see the problem is that the cracked Igo is not able to start the internal gps.
Here my new solution..this time is really working !!!
GPS TEST from chartcross...i start this program .it starts the gps then menu/minimize and after i start the igo.
Tell me if it works for u.

Xman556 said:
As far as I see the problem is that the cracked Igo is not able to start the internal gps.
Here my new solution..this time is really working !!!
GPS TEST from chartcross...i start this program .it starts the gps then menu/minimize and after i start the igo.
Tell me if it works for u.
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Hey Xman556,
thank you for you suggestion it does work now it is much more easier after a soft rest.
Thank You
Gigino

I had this problem with I-go at first. When first installed selecting the gps port and or baud rate would lock the phone. Also if you did an auto detect it would also lock the phone. Solution, have gpsdash or google navigator running with the gps enabled (or anything else that works with the internal gps it seems). Without stopping the app start I-go and it will find and use the gps quite nicely.
Once it has done this the first time I never had to run anything else before I-go even after a reset. Tried this several times by fully reseting the 6500 and worked every time.

similar GPS problems with HTC P6500 and iGo
Hi all,
I'm writing from Germany and have similar problems with iGo 2006+ and iGo 8.
(I purchased iGo 8 just yesterday)
My (German) settings:
Settings --> System --> External GPS -->
Tab Program?:
COM4 for internal GPS, no external GPS via Bluetooth (see Attachment)
Tab Access?:
manage GPS automaticly: ON
What are your GPS settings?
- - -
What I have discovered:
- 1st starting iGo 2006+ and iGo8: both applications hang during 'starting'
- With Igo 2006+ I tried: 1st starting the app 'GPS Tuner', then starting iGo
--> It starts and iGo finds GPS on Com4 with maximum baud
(now I don' t have any longer 'GPS Tuner')
- With iGo8 I tried starting the freeware 'VisualGPSce' 1st (until GPS fix), then starting iGo8 --> It starts, I could set COM4, maximum baud...
--> so I think, is is an internal iGo/GPS-problem
- Today I could drive about 10 km with Igo8, then it crashes without any msg
You can see, I have similar probs, did u solve the probs meanwhile?
---
Rainer from Germany

cracked igo works fine on Sedna. from SD or InternalFlash.
I´m using GPSGATE.
Start GPSGATE, best automatically after reboot.
this will start the internal GPS.
Now you have 2 possibilities.
1. use the output port of GPSGATE, maybe Virtual Com1. You can select it in the options from GPSGATE
or
2. use Com4 from internal GPS. once startet from GPSGATE, it works.
you have to edit your sys.txt in folder programs....igo8
[gps]
port="1" or "4"
baud="38400"
it works definitly
Guenni

Latest news
After trying all kinds of programs(GPS port spliter,gps gate and gps test) I found that the solution with gpstest is the best.So I decided to perform a hard reset in order to install on my device only the useful software. But after the hard reset the gps would not start no matter what programs I installed. So I sent the device to HTC and they replaced the mainboard.
Now the IGO8 works perfect(together with GPSTEST-pls see my earlier posts).

GPS Text script
I too found GPSTest.exe useful because its really small.
Strange that iGo hangs when trying to communicate over the port *unless* you start another program and open up the GPS unit's port.
Sounds a lot like PPC/iGo GPS management issue.
Be that as it may, I created a script with MortScript, and then put this shortcut under my programs in "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" on my PPC (I'm running WM 6.1 if you care).
The following script opens GPSTest.exe, launches iGo, then closes GPSText.exe after iGo shuts down;
iGoLaunch.mscr:
Code:
#OPEN GpsText.exe minimized
Run ("\Storage Card\Program Files\Chartcross\GPSTest\Bin\GPSTest.exe")
WaitForActive ("GPS Test", 5000)
Minimize ("GPS Test")
#Run (and wait until iGo closes)
RunWait ("\Program Files\iGO8\iGO8.exe")
#Close GpsText.exe
Kill ("\Storage Card\Program Files\Chartcross\GPSTest\Bin\GPSTest.exe")
After creating iGoLaunch.mscr, put this link (use notepad) into "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"
iGo 8 GPS.lnk:
Code:
1#"\Storage Card\iGo8\iGoLaunch.mscr"?\Program Files\iGO8\iGO8.exe, -101
Please note: If you decide to use this script and shortcut, I highly suggest you check the paths/filenames for accuracy.

GPS and WM 6.1 upgrade
Hey guys -- this may well not be relevant to the issues you're dealing with -- I don't use iGo -- but there is a HUGE improvement in GPS reception with the Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade. My Sedna used to have a very difficult time getting GPS reception: it often could not find a signal despite repeated attempts. But since the upgrade, it's been locking on quickly and consistently.
Thought I'd pass this on in case it's helpful.
Alan

very simple script
once the GPS is initialized for the first time it will work
I've wrote a script for MortScript. The only code is:
WriteFile( "COM4:",x )
This script only sends something (here x) to COM4.
Then COM4 is used for the first time and will keep on working.
I start this script in autostart.
That's all.
Please regard uppercase and colons when writing "COM4:"
Bye
Guenni

Solution for port splitter
You can use port splitter for your gps. here is the process i went through with my HTC (jade). first i used gps gate and figured out that the internal gps is using com4. since gpsgate is not free and had to stop using it I tried port splitter
simply install port splitter on your pda
under INPUT-> PORT: com4 and Baud: 4800 (you might have to type COM4 yourself)
under OUTPUT-> select com1 on the drop down menu and press ADD
then press Start Splitter
and it should work
if not install gpsgate and figure out what port it is using and than use port splitter.
This should save you some money
Greetings
Macula

TT and Garmin did work, but now not getting gps fix, advice please.

Hi!
I have read the other GPS threads and cannot find a solution, but will keep searching.
I managed with help from here, to get Tom Tom working and also Garmin XT.
Both worked with the internal gps chipset well, but last night they both stopped working.
My version of Tom Tom does not have the inbuilt receiver as an option so I used 'Other NMEA receiver' with COM4 and baud rate 4800 and it did work.
In Garmin's settings, I used COM4 and it worked.
Now both do not work. The Tom Tom just waits for a connection and Garmin shows a panel with Awaiting better GPS Accuracy
Both programs do work if I use an external Navman B1- Bluetooth receiver.
I have also tried PortSplitter but that does not seem to work either.
Any advice appreciated !
Ofiaich

Sorry dude, I can't help you out BUT I have noticed there's a fairly newish version of Garmin XT out now
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=3389
some people may not have noticed

Thanks !
that's the one I am using or rather I am not using but want to use
Ofiaich

sorted now....
Ofiaich

There is a program called GPS Info.
Try to find newest one or use mine from att (it works for Trinity).
It should test GPS.

thanks nimnull!
I am trying now...I do have an app called GPS Test but it doesn't display all of the screens of information. Did so on the Kaiser by using the scroll wheel.
Yes, it works thanks ! I am not sure what all of the numbers mean but I can guess
Ofiaich

More important, that GPS Test should make GPS "fixed".

Hi!
I can see, at the bottom of the screen, [setup][GPS Info] and can see activity but I am not sure where to look for "fixed"
I have not checked the boxes for VTG WAAS or PowerSave
Sorry to be slow
Ofiaich

GPS Test has to write that GPS is fixed and show your position.
If you still have Kaiser you can check there.
Mine GPS in Trinity doesn't work anymore

Hi again,
on my Kaiser, the screen downloads lots of data then stops. i.e. it does not keep on scrolling...like on the HD,
In the GPS Info view, it shows the satellites positioned in the concentric rings, but not figures for the lat: lon:
the date shows as 1601/01/01 So about the time the first Englishman set foot in Japan
so I now check the boxes for VTG and WAAS and the GPS Info now shows
2008/11/13 and also my location.
Back to the HD, checked the VTG and WAAS and date was same as for Kaiser but now has updated. Position updated too.
Screen on HD cuts off the right side of the data. so need some screen rotating utillity
Ofiaich

If GPS Info shows your location - it means that GPS is fixed and works OK!

Hi!
with the he boxes for VTG and WAAS checked, it does !
Thanks very much !
Ofiaich