apologies for the noob question, ive searched but cant seem to find the answer so ill keep it quick and simple :
what do i need to have sat nav on my charmer i.e. hardware ? software ? subscription ?
help much appreciated
You'll need software like Tomtom with a reciever. I'm not sure if the charmer is capable of a wired reciever but for sure a bt reciever will work.
Hi,
Try to find out if your provider offers an online-service like t-mobile navigate in Germany.
I do not need certain software (costs €€€, needs to be upgraded, needs a card inserted) but I have to pay 2 € per route (all over Europe) plus GPRS-charges.
Bluetooth GPS Mouse with Sirf III is highly recommended. I have a Leadtek GPS mouse (sold as Blue Kit) and this is working fine.
CU - Anna
i have the bundled copliot package from tmob, you can buy it yourself with the BT gps reciever for approx £180 from http://www.clove.co.uk/products/products.asp?strAreaNo=400_5_4&intElement=25224
in the UK
or tomtom with BT gps reciever for approx £150 from http://www.pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=104
personally i prefer the accuracy of the CP maps (supplied by navteq) to the pretty bells and whistles of TT
for pocket gps advice, visit www.pocketgpsworld.com they do a speed camera database as well, so you know where the accident blackspots are :wink:
Here a list of questions/answers:
1. You DEFINITELY have to find an appropriate GPS receiver. BT does not work sometimes properly because of the "Microsoft-BT-Stack" installed on the MDAc II which means "I send sometimes and sometimes not" Be careful when choosing the right device.
2. How often do you need advice for routing? Twice a month? 5 times a day? (2/mths=online, 5/day=card)
3. If you prefer a card (GPB 150!!!) be aware of updating costs. You have to buy new cards for countries outside yours... And: Every year???
4. To find the right SW test reports on the Internet are very helpful. But be aware of the slow processor of our device - colourful 3-D-maps will slow down the system dramatically.
5. There is also a service called "TMC" - Traffic Message channel - which is provided by the radio stations. This means that you are able to avoid traffic jams. Your device should be able to receive this, it will be more interesting for inbuild radio/navigation-systems ... I have not done much recherche on this - but my first choice was the online service - might be they will be able to update routes in this manner.
6. - off topic: Here in Hamburg we have a street where the one-way-direction is changed twice a day - as I remember: at 4 pm outwards until 6 am (?) and vice versa. As I was told this is the only street in D where this happens - I will try that soon and report.
Have a nice evening
Anna
P.S.: Hi jonajuna - nice to see you again
regards traffic updates, forgot to say that alk europe (copilot people) do 2 years free subscription to traffic master live with their complete packages (bt gps and software/maps on sd card).
i have never had connection probs with the CP supplied BTGPS3 reciever AS LONG as you remember to switch on the reciever before enabling BT on your mdac2 (once youve run through pairing the devices within the CP UI
i also succesfully use memorymap with the CP reciever for satnav when on foot in the hills which did take a bit of fiddling to set up the BT to go through a virtual serial port, but once done, equally as reliable)
hi back at you anna
edit: oops my bad, i just read that the 2 years traffic subs are only for those that get CP6 bundled with a new Tmob ppc or smartfone
In Australia I've been sucessfulling using Destinator software ware with a GlobalSat BT338 GPS reciever on the imate JAM/XDA Mini.
Connected up fine, along with a Jabra BT headset at the same time.
Also in Australia using Tom Tom 5.21 and Holux GR 232 with no problems.
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At least i've modified the Arkon support and now i've the GPS sensor connected via RS232 to my Qtek. It's working! And now?
What the better program to use in the car? Tom Tom? Destinator?
Support autorouting?
Any suggestion?
Thanx... M.
I use TomTom 3 with their own bluetooth GPS. Works great!!!
Additionally I use Checkpoint v3.2 (freeware) which is a great complement for TomTom (http://checkpoint.oabsoftware.nl/)
I tried Destinator 3 last month, but returned very quick to TomTom. I didn't like it at all.
/Oggi
Transportable GPS solution
Oggi - I see you use TomTom BT/Jabra BT250. Do you have any issues using the headset in the car at the same time as GPS? And does the TomTom BT GPS have a replaceable battery pack? Wouldn't want to throw the whole thing out when the rechargeable battery had had its chips...
I am currently considering buying a GPS. Software-wise, TomTom 3 seems pretty good to me, but I want to be able to use GPS in any car and don't want anything fitted permanently. Seems to me that the options are:
1. Get a BackPack, use SD slot for map storage and CF slot for plug-in GPS
2. Wait until GlobalSat adds memory to its SD-501 SDIO GPS http://www.easydevices.co.uk/products.asp?partno=EDGSATSD501 and use just the one slot for both functions
3. Bluetooth GPS - but I have seen in this forum many issues regarding simultaneous pairing of 2 BT devices, and I don't want to lose phone functionality, as mentioned above!
4. Bearing in mind that even a BT GPS needs power (and therefore a cable), bite the bullet and go for a wired GPS.
Any thoughts/experiences/other ideas would be welcome...
Gadget 8)
I had problems when I used ROM-version 1.52.00, but now I use 1.66.00 and it works great for me. My version on the Jabra BT-250 headset is "48B". I don't use the Pocket Bluetooth Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html), just the TomTom GPS driver v3.03 and normal pairing of the devices.
Tips: Don't choose to assign a virtual COM-port when pairing the BT-GPS (unless you really need this). This had a negative performance effect on the display speed of the maps on my device.
I also have a wired GPS, but a bluetooth GPS offers many more options. When you leave the car you can easily continue to navigate by foot. TomTom can even optimize the trip for walking.
The TomTom BT GPS-kit comes with a small dockingstation where you can place and charge the GPS in your car. Pretty smart :wink:
The battery holds for about 6 hours on a full charge, which is quite enough for me.
I don't know if you can change the battery in the bluetooth GPS.
/Oggi
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Inspector Gadget said:
Oggi - I see you use TomTom BT/Jabra BT250. Do you have any issues using the headset in the car at the same time as GPS? And does the TomTom BT GPS have a replaceable battery pack? Wouldn't want to throw the whole thing out when the rechargeable battery had had its chips...
I am currently considering buying a GPS. Software-wise, TomTom 3 seems pretty good to me, but I want to be able to use GPS in any car and don't want anything fitted permanently. Seems to me that the options are:
1. Get a BackPack, use SD slot for map storage and CF slot for plug-in GPS
2. Wait until GlobalSat adds memory to its SD-501 SDIO GPS http://www.easydevices.co.uk/products.asp?partno=EDGSATSD501 and use just the one slot for both functions
3. Bluetooth GPS - but I have seen in this forum many issues regarding simultaneous pairing of 2 BT devices, and I don't want to lose phone functionality, as mentioned above!
4. Bearing in mind that even a BT GPS needs power (and therefore a cable), bite the bullet and go for a wired GPS.
Any thoughts/experiences/other ideas would be welcome...
Gadget 8)
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The TomTom BT GPS does not have a user replaceable battery pack. It's made by Leadtek and their latest model the 9537 does.
Forget a CF or SD GPS, they don't perform as well as a wired or BT GPS. I use a BT headset and BT GPS without any problems. Most BT GPS will last for a min 6hrs on battery and some 12hrs+. Having said that, if you don't intend using it out of the car get a wired version, simpler and less issues although BT is pretty solid now.
Oggi said:
The TomTom BT GPS-kit comes with a small dockingstation where you can place and charge the GPS in your car. Pretty smart :wink:
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TomTom in their infinite wisdom decided to discontinue the GPS cradle for their BT unit and it's no longer available even as an option
TOM TOM 3
does any body klnow if TomTom3 has a map for Canada? Please...
Appreciate your help with info...
No, TomTom do not have any Canada coverage, the best option would be Alk's CoPilot.
Griffog
Thanks for your helpful advice.
I am leaning towards the BT option now, but Leadtek rather than TomTom. I want to use the system in both my own and my wife's car (the family long-distance-mobile) but I know she would have a fit if I expressed a wish to wire anything into it. Even a cradle would probably induce an apoplexy (doesn't matter, she can hold the xda2 for 200 miles, no sweat!)
Cheers again, mate
Gadget 8)
No probs, if you're looking at the Leadtek 9537, just to complicate things! Rikaline also re-badge it as the GPS-6030 oh and Delorme have just released a version that has a logging facility called the DeLorme Earthmate Blue Logger GPS.
Does someone know if navigon 4 works great on the magician ?
Can we receive some feedback from users that have tried it ?
Thanks.
I have used it and it works fine although personally I prefer TomTom
yaaah
I have the same problem with Navigon 4.2 when I connect it to a bluetooth GPS,
I'm tryed with so many options but not yet, nothing at all, IT DOSN'T WORK WITH THE BLOODY BLUETOOTH GPS, unless I find I a way out to change the bluetooth setting there,
I hope anybody can advise...
regards
Navigon works fine with my BT GPS. No problem at all.
TO jacoh.
Did you mean it is working with the imate jam (magician)?
if yes,
did you pair the bluetooth gps with com5 (as outbound)?
then normal setting of navigon,
then work fine (it is not finding the bt gps at all) where other small navigation software finds it and work with but not the navigon,
ANY SPECIAL STEP YOU DID TO LET IT WORK OR WHAT?
please advise!
thanx in advance
maybe you should call the Navigon software vendor and ask why it does not work.
unless you did not bought the software of course, but you certainly are not a f**king hacker are you?
Yes. It is working with iMate Jam (well it's a Qtek S100 with french OS). Com5 in Navigon settings. GPS is an emtac. No problem. Most of the time, problems come from BT pairing. Does your GPS receiver comes with a test application (emtac provides one for example)?
to mms72 :
i've read that the 4.2 doesn't work. Only the 4.01 does.
to jacoch :
Is it slooow or not ?
for example, when you don't follow the route, how long does it take to recalculate a new one (big delay or not) ?
thanks.
I've heard poeple in France saying it's quite slow to recalculate and almost unusable in cities. I have no problem on my side. It takes 1-2s to recalculate. But it seems to depend on the map density. I live in switzerland in a small city and the maps are probably simpler than the map of Paris or London.
Hi all,
I spend a lot of time to get MN4.2 working reliable. It depends on the protocol that your GPS is working with. As default for my RBT1000 was
GGA=1, GSA=1, GSV=5 RMC=1,GLL=0 and VTG=0. With this configuration the bluetooth connection will lost from time to time.
Now i have changed the protocol to GGA=1 and VTG=1. This combination works perfect for me. In some case (depends on your hardware) you need
GSA=1 also,
\\Yoshi
thank you yoshi:
simple and small question:
How to change those protocls :roll: in my imate jam..
Hi,
It depends on your mouse how to change the protocolls.
In my case the mouse came with a special software to change the protokoll. You can also some special tools for that for example:
winfast navigator.
\\Yoshi
thank you for the advice Yoshi
thank you Yoshi,
it (MN4.2) finaly worked with Holux GR-230 Bluetooth GPS after I changed some protocls (((( BuT )))) not stable , it works like 2 sec's on and 4 sec's off in finding the GPS Signal and I'm still trying to play with protocls to find the best combinations...
:evil: :evil: :evil: still fighting with it... :evil: :evil: :evil:
regards,
MN4.2 working great on my MDA compact with Fortuna Bluetooth GPS.
Mapfile > 330 MB! on 1 GB SD-Card.
Waiting for my 2GB Card to put the whole European map file on it.
Excellent product!
Just purchased MN4.2 with Navigon's GPS receiver. Their own receiver is great because it has TMC reception for traffic updates.
The software runs really well, routes are very fast calculated, no problems at all.
I think this software is really nice, all completely usable without stylus using the d-pad, it might look less appealing than TomTom, but it is way more sophisticated, and the maps are much better quality.
On their website they offer a very attractive upgrade price from any competitive product.
Only issue I noticed so far is that when I miss a turn it is sometimes very fast in giving me another route, and sometimes it is slower, don't know why, but always acceptable.
The only problem is with voice guidance, as it sometimes speaks too late. Particularly when there are turnings one after the other (very close, say 20m), then the voice guidance is a bit slow. It is ok if I am driving slowly, otherwise it speaks too late.
Having a glimpse at the map display clarifies any doubt, so no big issue.
The software is also extremely stable, you can open and close hundreds times without any problem. In my case, everything is installed on SD Card.
For the bluetooth, I first paired using the OS bluetooth config screen, and then I opened MN4, and gave COM5 as the bluetooth port. If it doesn't work, you should restart the program after switching off and on the receiver.
By the way, I live in London.
When I will have more experience with the product, I'll post further impressions.
Hi,
I know some of you would be annoyed with me posting a topic which has been discussed on this forum but after searching a lot on this forum i could not decide whether to buy a bluetooth GPS reciever or Tomtom one?
I have tomtom software 5.21 with the maps and dont mind struggling a bit initially ( for the 1st time i mean ) to get the bluetooth GPS running with Exec but just want to ask all of those who are using their Exec with tomtom few questions.
How easy is it to use Exec with tomtom in day to day life?
Has anybody used both and what do they prefer and why?
Which GPS is the best cos i have seen few with 32 channel etc etc?
Thanx in advance!!
Jatt
I've been using TomTom on my Exec since about November last year, and to be honest, I wouldn't even consider getting a full TomTom device.
I've got a BT-77 GPS (about £45 off eBay), wired permanently on in my car (I've also got a second if I need to use it elsewhere), and had NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER getting it to work - in fact, I'm bemused at why the whole Bluetooth/GPS issue is such a big one. I simply paired the two, and set up a port - no messing about unhiding the GPS applet etc. Easy.
I've got a Brodit mount in the car - very good. I've also got a Parrot hands-free, so the Exec does everything in the car - phone and sat nav (with Traffic).
Downsides? Well, sometimes the Exec can take an age to start TomTom, but other than that, I'm struggling to think of any.
Cheers,
Steve.
Same rig as above poster (SPV m5000,Tt 5.21 & BT77 GPS receiver) but did have a little trauma with the Tomtom port problem at first :evil: found the solution here though and now it's all good! Tomtom does suck the life out of that minuscule battery though, so a powered mount or a decent car charger are a must. As for the amount of receiver channels - the more the better (for tracking ability - look for ones with the SIRF III chip-set) i believe. Hope this helps
Thanks Oink1 and StevePritchard
I have ordered HOLOX Bluetooth GPS Reciever 32 Channel 4 TomTom from Ebay and it has SIRF III chip-set aswell.
Will let you know how it is for me
Bye
I have been using my Exec with TTN 5.21 for approaching a year now and use it with a SysOn 20 Channel SiRF Star Bluetooth GPS, brilliant piece of kit.
I wouldn't worry about the high end of GPS channel tracking as 12 - 20 suffices. The only problem that I've experienced was keeping the pairing but otherwise it works exceptionally.
Hi all,
Which software version of tomtom supports full postal code directions?
Thanks for all ur input
Bye
Jatt
Hi Peeps!
I am getting TomTom for the wizard, but need a GPS device.
1) Which ones can you reccommend and where from, links would be good!
2) Does the Software show speed camera locations?
Thank You
For GPS information you should check out www.gpspassion.com for their reviews and forums.
For speed camera databases that are formatted for several popular navigation programs including TomTom look at www.pocketgpsworld.com but note that there is a (modest) charge to download.
If you have not yet settled on TomTom then do consider the alternatives that you will find referenced at gpspassion.
Hope this helps!
iBlue
I have the iBlue GPS receiver from semsons.com. I've also had the Solarious receiver from them and I prefer the iBlue....it has an auto-off feature when there is no Bluetooth connection. It's also waaay small. The reception seems to be great too....none of these devices are Hollywood where you get an instant fix the second you turn it on but this is pretty quick and has stayed locked in just fine for me.
http://www.semsons.com/ibhiseaublgp.html
-Tim
Hi,
Have a look at this link, the latest most powerful SirfIII+ BT GPS unit on the market, and Brand new latest Destinator 6 sat nav software, (full UK and Ireland and european mapping) as a bundle deal.
http://www.dsldevelopments.com/Destinator/destinator6ELANEDO.asp
Hope that helps,
Cheers!
Bryson
Hi,
Have a look at this link, the latest most powerful SirfIII+ BT GPS unit on the market, and Brand new latest Destinator 6 sat nav software, (full UK and Ireland and european mapping) as a bundle deal.
http://www.dsldevelopments.com/Destinator/destinator6ELANEDO.asp
Hope that helps,
Cheers!
Bryson
i use tomtom with the BT GPS i got of ebay for £40. Works stright away, the only one draw back is the load of tomtom, but once it loaded it works fine. Speed camera i got as well, couldnt live without them (biker).
i agree with timskrastins. i-Blue reciever has worked fine with my TomTom. got mine for £40 from Ebay.
bonus is that it is charged with a mini USB connector. you cant charge the reciever with the wizard charger but you can charge the wizard with the car charger that comes with the reciever
TomTom 6 is due out b4 Christmas....... Wait until then
For those who don't know, Microsoft and Pharos are offering an iGPS-500 Bluetooth receiver for $70, plus shipping.
http://www.pharosgps.com/gpsphone/LiveSearch.htm?ProductID=615
https://services.pharosgps.com/shopping/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=141
This is designed to work with LiveSearch, but I don't see why it wouldn't work with other software.
I have purchased one and I will post a review in this thread when I get it.
How did it work for you? I bought the iGPS too but I can't seem to figure out how to use it with my Wing. Do I still have to mess with the "External GPS" settings? I'm planning on using it with Windows Live Search. It connects fine, I guess I'm just a bit clueless trying to get it to work.
I purchased that keychain Bluetooth GPS reciever from the XDA store, and its pretty sweet. Its small but works well, and was even cheaper than that one above, you should consider that one too. Hey, plus you can support this great site too ;0)
http://store.xda-developers.com/xproduct.php?xProd=489&xSec=24
Just a query I am awaiting the arrival of my External B/T GPS to suit my Imate Jasjam I have Tomtom 6 installed my question is ...Is there any tricks to getting this working prior to my stuffing around with it
Hey bongo333, What I would suggest, as I use Tomtom 6 with ext, GPS reciever, is to wait to pair GPS with the jasjam before running tomtom the first time.
This allows you the option of which com port you wish the GPS reciever to use(I use 4). I believe tomtom uses as default 9 or 3. I believe your BT handsfree has com 03 reserved which means you have to use com 09.
When you get your GPS reciever, pair with jasjam but make sure you tick "serial port".
Then, from the tabs at the bottom of the screen in bluetooth settings, select com ports. click "select new outgoing port" then select port of your choice(Please remember that some com ports are "Reserved and cant be picked).
Start tomtom and when prompted select which type of gps you are using(other bluetooth reciver) then pick the com port you selected as the outgoing port for your GPS.
Please note that I have tried a 16 channel GPS and now have a 54 channel GPS and the more recievers the better reception and less time to lock onto a signal.
Hope this helps... Cheers
Excellent description I just picked it up and had it running on the way home I couldn't ask for anything better for that price $80 Ebay Holux M-1000b (for others info) exactly as you said used bluetooth prior to Tomtom and MUST assign com port or no go by the way do you know where I can get the latest Aust maps. I have Tomtom 6 but I'm told there is a newer version of the S/w but maps are more important.
Cheers Bongo333
SD5150 said:
I purchased that keychain Bluetooth GPS reciever from the XDA store, and its pretty sweet. Its small but works well, and was even cheaper than that one above, you should consider that one too. Hey, plus you can support this great site too ;0)
http://store.xda-developers.com/xproduct.php?xProd=489&xSec=24
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What software are you using for the keychain bluetooth GPS reciever? and do you need to be connected to 3G or internet to have the software working?
Ive been using an external GPS that i got on ebay about a year and a half ago for about $60 AUD.
For maps im using Tomtom which works great.