Hello all,
This is my first post here...I have a TYTN, and am looking at ways to call another tytn phone(or any wm6 actually) through gprs, so to use the charge per meg and not the phones charge per minute. Ive tried with Fring and skype mobile, both give terrible delays. Is this at all possible through GPRS/EDGE? (I dont enable 3G cos local provider having issues atm).
Is there no specific application for two WM6 phones to communicate using GPRS? Can anyone recommend any other applications to test?
Thanks in advance,
Sorry if this has been asked before, but I been looking and didnt find anything..
apocza said:
Hello all,
Is this at all possible through GPRS/EDGE? (I dont enable 3G cos local provider having issues atm).
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Read it from Skype.
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/tipsandtricks.html
Yes, you do need 3G for Internet calling. However, you can always turn to Wifi for Internet calling. Regardless you have WM5 or WM6, GPRS/EDGE just doesn't have enough bandwidth for VoIP.
CameoTabby said:
Read it from Skype.
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/tipsandtricks.html
...., GPRS/EDGE just doesn't have enough bandwidth for VoIP.
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EDGE has plenty of bandwith for VoIP, in particular if you use GSM codec. Just the latency isn't great, but it will do.
So if Skype doesn't work, consider SIP.
gprs dont connect 2 phones
it's only a internet connection
it's transparent to both devices if
they talk to a phone or a pc
the only way 2 phones maybe can talk data with eachother is the
old data gsm which is limited to 9600Kboud which is much much slower then even gprs
SIP internet calling etc
Can someone help me please. You know the internet calling option on WM6, how for the love of money do you use it. I got skype which i use but i got no idea what this internt calling option is for because i dont know how to use it. HELPPPPPP PLEASEEEEEe
Internet calling is for using witha SIP server such as FWD or an inhouse Asterik/LCS box.
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Hello,
Well everything said in the subject,
I would like to be able to surf internet in GPRS when I am making a phone call, I tried this but It it not working on my QTEK 9090 (PDA2K ....)
I know with the blackberry it is possible.
Is there any crack to allow this?
Thanks
Michael
GPRS is always turned off when gsm or sms is active it turn back on afterwards it's just how the std is
this is why i want to change the standard to leave it on
I believe he is saying it is the way the technology works. You can not be online via GPRS and be using the voice portion of the GSM service at the same time.
yes and no
following the specs of GPRS it is possible depends on the Class of gprs used
take a look at this link
http://www.gsm-technology.com/gsm.php/en,unlock,subpage_id,technologie_GPRS.html
micmic said:
yes and no
following the specs of GPRS it is possible depends on the Class of gprs used
take a look at this link
http://www.gsm-technology.com/gsm.php/en,unlock,subpage_id,technologie_GPRS.html
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You are correct in what you say, but it actually depends on the class of Device that you use. The RIM blackberry devices are able to keep GPRS on whilst also using the voice connection. The XDA range of devices can't do this I'm afraid.
Very good to know. Do the T-mobile Sidekicks support this class?
Would it be possible to only use medianet unlimited with Vonage, and dump cingulars over priced voice plan. I mean, being that Vonage operates soely on your internet connection, why wouldn't it work on medianet or Cingulars PDA plan, vica versa. Pitcure it, you get unlimited calls to US and Canada, all the goodies like call waiting, three way calling and caller I-D, all for $29.95. That beats out Cingulars 450 daytime, 5000 night and weekends, for $39.95 any day.
So, is it possible? And if not, why?
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Would it be possible to only use medianet unlimited with Vonage, and dump cingulars over priced voice plan. I mean, being that Vonage operates soely on your internet connection, why wouldn't it work on medianet or Cingulars PDA plan, vica versa. Pitcure it, you get unlimited calls to US and Canada, all the goodies like call waiting, three way calling and caller I-D, all for $29.95. That beats out Cingulars 450 daytime, 5000 night and weekends, for $39.95 any day.
So, is it possible? And if not, why?
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I don't think that it would work because I believe Vonage is VoIP which is kinda like skype and the GPRS network isn't fast enough for that. Feel free to correct me (anyone?) if i'm wrong though.
But what about edge, wifi, or 3G. Wouldn't those be fast enough?
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But what about edge, wifi, or 3G. Wouldn't those be fast enough?
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edge is the same as GPRS, its the cellular data network. Edge I don't believe is fast enough. Wifi is fast enough, but you have to overclock your phone in order for it to actually work well...or at all. Not sure what 3G is, so I can't comment on that.
It's theoretically possible. There's a version of SJPhone that works with Vonage and runs on the WM5. All you need is a soft phone on your vonage acct and SJPhone should be able to connect over GPRS or WiFi.
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It's theoretically possible. There's a version of SJPhone that works with Vonage and runs on the WM5. All you need is a soft phone on your vonage acct and SJPhone should be able to connect over GPRS or WiFi.
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Can you elaborate on this a little more. What exactly is soft phone?
A softphone costs $10/mo on your Vonage account and works with software on your PC. The Vonage interface device isn't required. Every time you connect to the internet with your PC, no matter where in the world this is, your softphone number is available. SJPhone is software that runs on WM5 that allows you to connect to your softphone number on Vonage in the same way.
Alright I have the software SJPhone, I found the beta version for WM5. And I am sure that even before I install it that there will be some configuration required for vonage.....
I have gone and google'd..... These look like the setup instructions....
http://www.engadget.com/2004/08/31/how-to-use-a-pocket-pc-pda-as-a-wifiphone/
Cingular is one step ahead of you... Kind of. There was an article about 2 weeks ago and cingular said they don't mind that people are using VOIP on their network. But Edge isn't fast enough. I have Skype on my device and running it via Edge is worthless, so get yourself a Hermes adn move to a 3g(umts) city and Voila, your golden!
I just got back from houston and they're selling the HTC TyTn for $1,099.99. You can get it on ebay for $779.99 with 29.99 shipping from Cali.
I have activated a vonage softphone but I am having trouble with the configuration. If anyone had some light to shed on the subject that would be great. The guide I am looking at looks like it is just about to turn 2 years old.
IT WORKS!!!!!!!! well I initialized a call I can't really test it though cuz the wife is sleeping and if I make the phone ring too much she'll get peeved. The above configuration is good, just don't bother with the proxy stuff just put the domain in..... i followed their screens just a little too well.
what connection u using it on?
The only issue with SJPhone I saw was, like skype, it would be "speakerphone only". I'm guessing GPRS would be fine for the connection if you use a low speed audio codec.
Well I lied i made 1 phone call and that was it it doesn't work now I don't know what i did
Is this any help?
SJLabs: Vonage on Pocket PC thread
Very helpful now I no longer recieve the "Nat/Firewall" Error. Thanks for the info. I will do more testing during the day tommorow and I will post my results. I am currently using a T-Mobile MDA with the new OEM firmware update.
I talked with the wife for 45 mins while using wifi, I used the headset supplied with the phone because I have not figured out how to incorporate my Moto H700 with it, but otherwise it was great. The edge at my house is only so-so, therefore I will say that using this with edge so far has been impossible. When I go to work tommorow I will let you know if it works better where I know there is 100% edge, and when I am not on the fringe of a network.
Theory into practice it would seem. Nicely done matrix849! I'd always wanted to try this but never really had the time to spare.
Seems as though the tytn would be the best way to really test if this would be absolutely possible. I mean with its 3G technology and all.
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Cingular is one step ahead of you... Kind of. There was an article about 2 weeks ago and cingular said they don't mind that people are using VOIP on their network. But Edge isn't fast enough. I have Skype on my device and running it via Edge is worthless, so get yourself a Hermes adn move to a 3g(umts) city and Voila, your golden!
I just got back from houston and they're selling the HTC TyTn for $1,099.99. You can get it on ebay for $779.99 with 29.99 shipping from Cali.
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Hi
Ive had my Advantage for two days now, and i have missed 16 calls, even though the phone is on and has full signal, after playing around this afternoon it appears to be if there is a data connection active (GPRS) ie active sync live search maps, remote desktop calls get rejected.
Ive had an JasJar for the past year and never seemed to get the issue with that, and im using the same SIM / Network / Number i was before.
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the phone to pause the data connection so the phone can ring?
Does anyone else have the same issue?
Regards
Ben
myrapid said:
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Ive had my Advantage for two days now, and i have missed 16 calls, even though the phone is on and has full signal, after playing around this afternoon it appears to be if there is a data connection active (GPRS) ie active sync live search maps, remote desktop calls get rejected.
Ive had an JasJar for the past year and never seemed to get the issue with that, and im using the same SIM / Network / Number i was before.
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the phone to pause the data connection so the phone can ring?
Does anyone else have the same issue?
Regards
Ben
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you don't happens to be using Vodafone do you? If so i know exactly what is going on.....
Nope
No, i am on tmobile UK, what i don't get is that i works fine if i swap the sim back to my JasJar.
Ben
I miss calls all the time, about 70% of my calls fail for some reason or another.
T-Mobile Suck. I never had this much trouble with O2.
I have done experiments where somebody stood next to me calls me, and gets "the number you are calling is not available" while my phone, next to them is turned on with full battery and signal...
Even outgoing calls fail randomly, just says "calling" for ages then stops for no reason.
Ive had not trouble with tmobile since i have been with them (over 18 months) until i got the advantage, ive cloned every single setting i can from my jasjar and still no look, its a shame as looks like im going to have to disable push email!
myrapid said:
Ive had not trouble with tmobile since i have been with them (over 18 months) until i got the advantage, ive cloned every single setting i can from my jasjar and still no look, its a shame as looks like im going to have to disable push email!
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that is strange, mine one now works perfectly, so when you miss your call, are you on 3.5G( HSDPA ) network or are you on GPRS?
wu5262 said:
that is strange, mine one now works perfectly, so when you miss your call, are you on 3.5G( HSDPA ) network or are you on GPRS?
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Standard GPRS, it only happens when there is a contasnt data flow if it is just connected and the connection is not being used it calls in fine.
EG if i use remote desktop / terminal services over GPRS then call the advtange at the same time it goes to answer phone, although it does take around 10 seconds before it does though but doesn't ring, like it is looking for a signal/trying to connect.
myrapid said:
Standard GPRS, it only happens when there is a contasnt data flow if it is just connected and the connection is not being used it calls in fine.
EG if i use remote desktop / terminal services over GPRS then call the advtange at the same time it goes to answer phone, although it does take around 10 seconds before it does though but doesn't ring, like it is looking for a signal/trying to connect.
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may i ask is there any reason why you are not using 3G? GPRS tend to have this problem, but 3G won't.
wu5262 said:
may i ask is there any reason why you are not using 3G? GPRS tend to have this problem, but 3G won't.
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Coverage, my house and my office don't have 3G coverage, else i would be.
i was on o2 b4 n hardly ever had 3g signal n when i did my video calling never worked....since moving 2 t-mobile ive had no problem....my data connection is mon 9 till 6 b it 3.5g, 3g or gprs n i use cortado.com push email service for instant emails.....i still receive calls when connected
using the flext 50 with web n walk
I'm in the US using T-Mobile and GPRS and don't have this problem. I'll try to make it "break" and see if I experience the problem but just never noticed it.
If using GPRS and a call comes at the exact time you are receiving data, your call will go to voice mail or unanswered. Its the way the radio is designed...SOme carriers have been successful at ending the data stream and raising the priority of the voice. But GPRS modem in most phones only allows data or voice not both...but,
If using 3g/utms it should ring on the phone. And allow data and voice at the same time.
Maybe you universal is grabbing the 3g signal and for some reason the 7500 is using gprs.
Wu has also reported this problem with Vodaphone and Hsdpa...
eagle 1 said:
If using GPRS and a call comes at the exact time you are receiving data, your call will go to voice mail or unanswered. Its the way the radio is designed...SOme carriers have been successful at ending the data stream and raising the priority of the voice. But GPRS modem in most phones only allows data or voice not both...but,
If using 3g/utms it should ring on the phone. And allow data and voice at the same time.
Maybe you universal is grabbing the 3g signal and for some reason the 7500 is using gprs.
Wu has also reported this problem with Vodaphone and Hsdpa...
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that is very correct, i have just change to T-Mobile yesterday, now my HSDPA works perfectly with voice, when voices comes in, it will switch the network to 3G and allow voices to comes in, data is still connected, just lower the bandwidth. Too bad that this doesn't work on Vodafone
Has anyone found a solution for this?
Regards,
Hollinshead
hollinshead said:
Has anyone found a solution for this?
Regards,
Hollinshead
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there is no solution, the only thing you can do is swap your operator, or just don't use 3g at all....
Hello,
I have just got myself a universal, but I don't want to run up a huge bill with GPRS connecting to the web and other bits, so how do I disable it.
I only want to connect via Wi-fi and nothing else..... If there is no Wi-fi available I want to be able to then activate GPRS.
Do you sort of know where I am coming from.
Is there a way to tell on the front screen to check if its using GPRS or Wi-fi as wel?
BTW I am new to PDA's so please help me as much as you can.
Many thanks.
When I make a call is it gsm or gprs?
Is there a larger cost to GPRS calls? Is GPRS data?
If so, can I sort of disble it from connecting via this method.
I only want to make calls via gsm, and if I need tinternet I will use the wifi..
Please help... I dont want to get a huge bill when it comes in from work.,.,.,
*** I posted this because I realised I made a mistake in the 1st post, by getting GSM and GPS totally mixed up....***
Jimbo73 said:
When I make a call is it gsm or gprs?
Is there a larger cost to GPRS calls? Is GPRS data?
If so, can I sort of disble it from connecting via this method.
I only want to make calls via gsm, and if I need tinternet I will use the wifi..
Please help... I dont want to get a huge bill when it comes in from work.,.,.,
*** I posted this because I realised I made a mistake in the 1st post, by getting GSM and GPS totally mixed up....***
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quickest way to deactivate GPRS is just to delete it's profile under connection settings. should be easy enough to see but in some cases it may cause a problem when it comes to MMS as MMS is part GPRS even though they don't charge you per Mb like they do for browsing.
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Does anyone know what the situation is with users trying to use VoIP with a Wing please? I am awaiting the new aSerg ROM (for some unknown reason he took VoIP out of his ROMs relatively early on) or the TTran one but in the meantime I am using the curious hard SPL unlocker ROM
I installed Schaps VoIP software which I got for my Wizard and when I tried to run it, the app crashed. So I ran WM6VoIP which I also got for my Wizard (etc) and everything installed smoothly and runs smoothly and all the data enters properly
However on the TODAY screen; all I can get is SERVICE BLOCKED.
Is this the use of the wrong software or is it an attempt by t-Mob to prevent users using anything other than their own service (lots of people on these boards seem to have asked about using their VoIP service!) and if so, is anyone working on a fix for this please? Or do I just assume that the new ROMs will address this issue?
Also, does anyone know if the earpiece on the Wing takes the VoIP signal or if it comes through the speakers or only through the hands free headset as on other HTC devices such as the Wizard?
wouldn't edge be too slow for voip?
i think this (and network congestion and possible violation of TOS) is the reason that voip was taken out of alot of roms. For alot of carriers, the term "unlimited" really means "5gb or so depending on how we feel".
fzzyrn said:
wouldn't edge be too slow for voip?
i think this (and network congestion and possible violation of TOS) is the reason that voip was taken out of alot of roms. For alot of carriers, the term "unlimited" really means "5gb or so depending on how we feel".
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really?! is that just for the tzones hack or also the total internet add on as well? (the limit your talking about)
So do you guys think t-mob blocks VoIP
And do people go along with this blocking accordingly? Doesnt sound like XDA to me?
If it works on the Wizard and Blue Angel, why should it work so badly on a Wing? Is it an inferior unit to those?
i just tested skype, through fring, on my wing. works fine.
http://www.fring.com/
its not reliable through edge, but with wifi it works well.
Then I wonder what is blocking my service?
Kazzx said:
i just tested skype, through fring, on my wing. works fine.
http://www.fring.com/
its not reliable through edge, but with wifi it works well.
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Then I wonder what is blocking my service? I dont use Edge and as i say I have used these files successfully on Wizards, Hermeses and BlueAngels before and got VoIP service. (Even without overclocking)
In effect it was ME blocking my service
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Then I wonder what is blocking my service?
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What is blocking my service is not paying enough attention to the settings: I failed to enable Internet Calling 'Whenever Available'.
Snot working yet but as soon as I enabled it, VoIP suddenly became "available"