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can't sync. with my laptop

Hello All,
I don't know what is the problem. It seems ok for the first time after i installed the version 4.0 that comes with the CD. It works fine. But for the second time, it just 'connecting'. Have gone thru' the troubleshooting processes but without success. Also tried to install the new version 4.1 but won't work.
Pls can someone help me on this.
rgds.
zainal.

does it sync over BT?
i had the same problem before & i still do, but soem other guy here in the forum said it worked for him when he uninstalled AS then reinstalled it again.
try it, it might work with you.
until now i'm still stuck with BT syncing, i cannot sync over USB.
i still get "connecting" message all the time with no progress.

Hi Guys
I had EXACTLY the same problem, alhough I could not get BT to work but could get IRDA to work.
Here is what I THINK the problem is, by the way i-mate were useless it was a colleague at work that had finally found this problem on his device.
WM5 devices when connecting via USB create a NETWORK. Strange but true.
SO, open Control panels, open Network Connections.
Attach your K-JAM (or other WM5 device) you SHOULD see a new network get created with a random number at the end of it (the number changes depending on the USB port you use so you MAY need to do this procedure again if you connect via a different USB port).
Get the properties of this new network when it opens you should see that NONE of the services are checked.
Check them all.
Close.
Everything SHOULD suddently spring into action, it certainly did for me.
It appears that some PC config's (all our work ones) need to be configured this way were as otheres set themselves up fine.
Let me know if this works.
Cheers.
Robin

the wierest thing just happened.
i wanted to try your solution, i opened the network connections folder, connected my kjam, and for my surprise it just connected without me doing anything, and i had it sycronised over the USB.
BUT, the wierd thing, is even though i have the connection, and it is syncronizing with my laptop, i don't have the connection icon on my kjam, instead i had this message (attached).
what does this mean?

Don't know, I have never seen this!!!!
Robin

the strange things keeps coming...
when i wanted to sync my device again this evening, my whole laptop freezes without any responce.
can someone here tell me what's the problem i'm having here? & how to solve it?
i don't wonna format my PC over this.
thanks all in advance.

I have noticed that the synchronisation only happens properly if I connect to the SAME usb port. If I connect to another port, the laptop picks up the connection but won't synchronise.
Connect to the same USB port and voila!!
Hope that helps.

See my reply earlier.
Each different USB port you connect too AS creates a NEW network with a different number on the end of it.
You have to open the network properties for all the networks (with numbers) you intend suing and make sure all the properties are checked.
I use 3 different USB ports on my laptop depending on wether it is docked at home the office or undocked.
I have had to do this procedure for each port but now they ALL work smoothly every time.
Regards.
Robin

i did connect it to the same USB port, but no luck there, the same problem. i uninstalled the AS twice and re-installed it but it's the same.

hi.
i have tried yr solution by ticking all the boxes in the 'new' network properties. won't work though. the sync. icon shows 'connecting'.

mzk78 said:
hi.
i have tried yr solution by ticking all the boxes in the 'new' network properties. won't work though. the sync. icon shows 'connecting'.
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Strange.
I know a number of people this worked for.
You could/should also try disabling your firewall and giving it another go.
Robin

Activesync Disconnects

Hi,
I have been suffering with a persistant Activesync connection problem. It usually connects and syncs fine the first time I boot my machine, but after around five minutes it almost always disconnects (though my Vario II continues to charge). Unplugging and replugging the USB cable does not work and the Activesync icon remains grey. Trying to start the connection manually either from the Vario II or from Activesync on the desktop also does not reconnect the device. In fact the only way to get it to connect again is to reboot my PC.
I'm using Activesync 4.2 downloaded from Microsoft this morning. I've tried deleting and recreating the partnerships, which does not help the issue. I've tried several USB cables which also do not resolve the issue, so I am now asking for your help.
If anyone has any insights into whaty might be happening I would appreciate your help...
Thanks,
Chris

I'm having the same problem, but in my case unplugging the cable from the device and plugging it again usually restarts the sync. Sometimes, however, I have to soft-reset to get it working again. Very annoying.

Hi Chris,
Ive had tons of issues with activesync on my works laptop..... I use a VPN and zonealarm... I used to have tno issues but since I got WM5 wich uses IP address's it always does the same thing as yours.. ive made sure the IP address is allowed in zone alarm.... my colleague also had this issue.. he managed to solve it by using a differnet USB port as his laptop has 3 one is on the side of the machine ... try using a different USB or disable zone alarm if you use it this could be causing the problem.
I sometimes get it to work if I have no VPN client running but as soon as I do use it the active sync stops.
Hope this may help you
James

I have exactly the same issue with my Vario II, never happened with my Vario and I have changed nothing other than my phone. Makes me think its summin to do with the harware possibly? Anyone else found a cure for this?

I Had the same problems, so I gave up on USB connection with active sync, I have 4 USB ports on my laptop and tried all, I now use bluetooth and works everytime.
There has always been problems with USB and actgive sync, so 4.2 was suppose to fix, but not for me.

I've got the same probelm on my Tytn. I've solve it to delete the Pocket Mechanic :shock: , I've done a S.R. and from now on the A.S. works correctly.
Ciao, Cesare

Had to use my old vario for a bit today, used activesync and it worked fine for the whole time I had it plugged in, got a new Vario II replacement today, got home and its exactly the same, would appear to be a mismatch between Vario II and activesync 4.2, can I connect by wifi?

Hello hmm the problem is if it uses direct or ip ,try go settings - connections - ( usb to pc ) and disable advance network funtctionality.
Hope that works
thanks

I had this problem too - I disabled advanced network capabilites in the "USB to PC" control panel under the Settings/Connections folder, and then Activsync stayed connected after that.
HTC TyTN 7/22/06 ROM

Just given that ago, Took me 5 attempts for the usb to pc connection settings screen to show up but then I realised it had to be plugged in to do it! Duh! What features do I loose by disabling ADVANCE NETWORK FUNCTIONALITY?

After the activesync working fine with my orange spv3100 for 4 weeks it suddenly refused to connect. I un-checked the "advanced functionality" box as suggested and it works again. Many thanks for the solution peeps.
I too would like to know what functions this deactivates.

Same problem, I've installed ActiveSync 4.5beta and now it stay connected, sometimes it disconnects but after restart of the phone it works again, one friend told me that the problem comes from the Activesync in the phone, so may be we have to look for the problem in the phone not in the PC

Activesync 4.2 problem
Hi all,
I too started having the same problems with Activesync 4.2 hanging my phone if left charging overnight. I decided to disable the advance network connection and that worked for a while. Now the phone wont sync AT ALL. It charges, but I can't do anything else. I reinstalled the Activesync 4.2, did a soft reset, off-on to the mobile, turn off-on my computer and still nothing. I will d/l Activesync 4.5 beta to see if that solves the problem, but it looks to be a problem with the Activesync in the mobile and not the one in the computer. I did the troubleshooting and it is detecting the USB connection but does not sync. I would really like to know if wireless sync can be achieved. Will post any fix if I find one. BTW my mobile is about a month and a half.

activesync always disconnect
fantastic_mr_q said:
Just given that ago, Took me 5 attempts for the usb to pc connection settings screen to show up but then I realised it had to be plugged in to do it! Duh! What features do I loose by disabling ADVANCE NETWORK FUNCTIONALITY?
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hi,
where can i find ADVANCE NETWORK FUNCTIONALITY
pls help here im tired of this activesync problem
thank you

Sync problems with tytn
I've read through all the messages in this thread and wondered if someone could help me with some problems i've been having with syncing mine with a laptop. Often when I have the device plugged in when i boot up the laptop activesync won't start until i've disconnected the usb cable then reconnected it again-i never had this problem with the imate jam. My second problem arises when sometimes it says on the files section that there are un resolved items???? i then try to resolve the issue and a wizard comes up with add or remove buttons.afraid that i might remove something essential i tried the add button hoping this might resolve the issue-it didn't. i then gave up as nothing worked. after switching the laptop off and then syncing a day later there were no items to resolve so what exactly is happening. how can there be unresolved items one minute and nothing the next.also i hadn't done anything different on the tytn.if i select the add button on the window does it add a copy of the file highlighted and could this affect the operation of the device.Sorry if this seems a little confusing but i never had this problem with an xda exec or an imate jam.
please could someone help a non technical fifty something.

activesync always disconnect
fantastic_mr_q said:
Just given that ago, Took me 5 attempts for the usb to pc connection settings screen to show up but then I realised it had to be plugged in to do it! Duh! What features do I loose by disabling ADVANCE NETWORK FUNCTIONALITY?
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hi,
where can i find ADVANCE NETWORK FUNCTIONALITY

I agree, where is this option?
I'm running version 4.2 and along the top bar all I'm seeing is:
File - View - Tools - Help
Nothing like "Settings" and/or "Connections" in sight. Under "File" there is the "Connection Settings" option, but nowhere does it mention "Advanced Networking Functionality".......
Can someone explain this please?!

The "Advanced Networking Functionality" is on your phone, not on desktop's activesync.
On WM5, go to Settings -> Connections -> USB to PC and you will find the "Enable Advanced network functionality" option.

pof said:
The "Advanced Networking Functionality" is on your phone, not on desktop's activesync.
On WM5, go to Settings -> Connections -> USB to PC and you will find the "Enable Advanced network functionality" option.
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Every time I try that, I just get an error message saying: "Failed to disable RNDIS to use Serial".
Has anyone else seen this message? Happens regardless of whether the Vario II is connected by USB or not...
Thanks,
Chris

I'm still getting the RNDIS error, has anyone else come across this? Is there a solution?
Cheers,
Chris

Vista Connecting =(

On my old PC my 8525 connected to XP no problem, than I upgraded to Vista (dual-booted actually) and it just stopped working on both XP and Vista. Now I have a new pc and my problem still remains. I connect my 8525, sometimes the orange light goes on, sometimes it doesn't. When I installed WMDC (newest version) it didn't recognize the 8525 as being connected, so it installed drivers for an unrecognized device or something along those lines. Then sometimes when I connect the 8525 to my pc, it installs drivers for the 8525, and the box that says "enter your passcode" pops up. I enter it, and it'll either say it's wrong ( when it's right ) or the box will disappear and nothing will happen. It just never connects and I really want to put music on it. Any advice is much appreciated.
Edit: I went into ActiveSync on the phone and deleted all the PC's it had partnerships with already.

Read MrVanx's guide. It contains just about everything you'll ever need to know

I tried the guide but it didn't work because in Device Manager nothing shows up... no matter which USB port I put the 8525 in, it doesn't show up anywhere.

delete partnerships off the PC also, and temporarily remove your passcode.
try unchecking the advanced network functionality box in settings/connection/usb to pc
if worst comes to worst, backup stuff on your pocket pc and hard-reset

>>try unchecking the advanced network functionality box in settings/connection/usb to pc
Look for a "Windows Mobile Remote Adapter" in the network section of Device Manager. If you've already tried to connect with the "Advanced Functionality" checkbox checked, then the mobile remote adapter may have gotten installed. Once that happens, changing the "advanced functionality" won't help, and you won't be able to connect your 8525.
You need to unplug the 8525 from USB, then go into device manager and remove the mobile remote adapter, then change the "advanced functionality" checkbox on the 8525, and then connect your device again..
This is what happened to me, and how I finally got it working. Hope it helps you.
Brian.

There was nothing in Network Adapters or anywhere in Vista about it. I tried removing the password and connecting it without the thing in USB to PC checked off, still no luck. I would back everything up and hard reset but I've seen so many posts by people saying they've hard reset, lost everything; and then they came to realize it still didn't work =(

8525_b0tch said:
There was nothing in Network Adapters or anywhere in Vista about it. I tried removing the password and connecting it without the thing in USB to PC checked off, still no luck. I would back everything up and hard reset but I've seen so many posts by people saying they've hard reset, lost everything; and then they came to realize it still didn't work =(
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Isnt that the point of backing up, so that you DONT lose everything?

^^ I still lose all of my programs and all of them are on my old pc

8525_b0tch said:
^^ I still lose all of my programs and all of them are on my old pc
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If you get a trial version of spb backup and do a full one, it does more than just contacts and such, it'll do EVERYTHING, so when you put everything back its exactly the same as when u left it. Programs included.

At a loss with activesync

I'm at a complete loss with activesync. I've done everything I can think of and I can't get my computer to see my 8525. I've reinstalled activesync and hard resent my device. When i plug in it says
one of the usb devices attached to this computer has malfunctioned and windows did not recongnize it
usb root hub (2 ports)
- unknown device
- usb composite device
Am I missing some sort of driver somehow? I don't know what to do..please help.

Hey i had the same problem. Is this your first time installing/using activesync??
Well what I did was this:
-Install activesync 4.2 from the CD (CD that came included w/unit).
-Uninstall activesync 4.2 (don't delete any drivers installed by the CD)
-Install activesync 4.5 (download it from Microsoft Website)
-Plug in your 8525 to the PC via USB cable, and your PC should NOW recognize it.
This is what I did and it helped. There may be a better/alternate way in doing this, but I FINALLY got Activesync to work!
Oh and see if you can help me with the prob. that I'm having.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383065

Ya I can't find the CD that came with my phone for the life of me.

ok found disc and tried that. Nothing. Could my phone be broken?

heres what I had to do to get AS working again.
Delete the current version of AS from your PC
Go into c:/wondows/program files and delete the AS folder (Windows may not let you delete some DLL's.
Go into the registry and delete any AS entries you can find, or do what I did and use Ccleaner registry clean up program (Google it, it's freeware)
Restart the PC
Install AS 4.2 from the AT&T/Cingular disk.
Install AS 4.5 from MS.
Hook up your 8525 and all should be well.

Tried that....didn't work.

Still hoping someone has some advice. I've tried two different usb cables and used different ports as well so it's not that.

quick update...
I searched through the forums and googled a few things and from what I can tell other people have had this problem and not found any solution. I am considering trying bluetooth but I don't have bluetooth for my PC...can i get some sort of adapter? Also...Is there a specific driver I can download for the HTC hermes that might fix this issue?

Yea your situation sounds like the one I used to have.
Do you have a firewall?? If so DISABLE it. I have COMODO and even though I would press "accept", the drivers wouldn't install completely.
This is what I did:
-Start your PC.
-Uninstall Activesync through the Add/Remove.
-Delete the Microsoft Activesync folder in the Programs folder.
-Restart your PC
-Wait till your firewall loads up. Disable it.
-Go through the procedures I mentioned in my 1st post.
Oh and make sure you have internet access. I'm not 100% sure if internet access helps, but it could help with the drivers.
Even though I just got my 8525, I don't mind helping someone

tried that. no go. I think i'm going to just have to get a new phone.

Did you try disabling the Advanced Network Functionality?
START -> SETTINGS -> CONNECTIONS -> USBtoPC

Yes. when I do that it makes windows see my device, but windows does not know what my device is. Thats why I think some sort of driver might be missing, but I don't know how to fix that.

branden7 said:
Yes. when I do that it makes windows see my device, but windows does not know what my device is. Thats why I think some sort of driver might be missing, but I don't know how to fix that.
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So... with the RNDIS checkbox UNCHECKED and your FIREWALL OFF, you get the USB Device not recognized error? In that case, ENABLE it and look at these other settings:
1. In the PPC open ActiveSync, then select Connections... from the menu and make sure the Synchroinize ALL PC's using this connection: USB option is checked.
2. In Windows (XP) check your ActiveSync connection settings (see image).
3. Did you try the AS 4.5 Connection Trouble Shooter?
4. You should also try another computer, just to double-check.
There is no driver to make AS work, AFAIK. Question: What happens when the RNDIS checkbox is enabled? Does Windows report an error or simply doesn't connect?

Tried all of those things, still device not recognized. I do need to try another computer but unfortunatly do not have access to one.
When i click that RNDIS checkbox nothing of interest happens. If it's clicked on when i connect windows very briefly see's the device (although it's not recongized) and then the little symbol for unknown device on my taskbar dissapears. If I then click it off windows will again see the device and the little symbol on my taskbar reappears, but it still doesn't recongnize the device.

Wow. That's a strange problem you have there. At this point, it could be a hardware issue. You could try installing WM5Storage or CardExport just to check if the USB hardware is working (bad cable?). Also, try checking your PPC registry, specifically, HKLM\Drivers\Usb\FunctionDrivers. It should look similar to mine (see pictures attached). I believe these keys tell Windows what to do with the device when connected thru USB. Other than that, try a flashing a new ROM from the SD Card, something like VP3G's which is known to work correctly.

Branden,
I have this problem from time to time. My solution is as follows: make sure the usb cable is connected to both the phone and the computer, even though you are getting the unrecognised error message.
Reboot the phone (soft reset) while still attached to the usb cable. Do not rush anything. Input any unlock passwords when prompted by the system but be aware that booting up can be slow, so give it time.
Once the phone has booted up you should then see activesync kick in. You may have to try this several times before it works but it always works for me.
One thing I would advise is to disable/deinstall any auto locking software, eg S2U2. These tend to kick in on long synchronisations and throw the usb status out.
Hope this helps.
WB

Hi! You didn't by any changeuse memmaid or something to clean up the notification queue? (if this sounds like gibberish, you probably didn't) Let me know!
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Tried all of those things, still device not recognized. I do need to try another computer but unfortunatly do not have access to one.
When i click that RNDIS checkbox nothing of interest happens. If it's clicked on when i connect windows very briefly see's the device (although it's not recongized) and then the little symbol for unknown device on my taskbar dissapears. If I then click it off windows will again see the device and the little symbol on my taskbar reappears, but it still doesn't recongnize the device.
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Same Problem
Just to let you know your not alone ...
I am having the Exact same problem at the moment .... fortunately i do have access to another PC ... My Laptop connects to it with no problems what so ever .... so it obviously is a PC issue and not a Phone issue
I too have tried all the currently posted attempts at a solution to fix it but so far nothing has worked ... i am beggining to think that i may have to do a fresh intall of XP and that would Phiss me off
So any further suggestions would be doubley appreciated

Tried everything mentioned since my last post and still nothing. Also I am now getting the white screen issue again (Which I fixed originally by buying another hermes that had a crushed usb port and swapping the screens out). I think I may be about ready to move on to another phone as this is now my third major problem with this model of phone (although one of the problems may be an issue with XP).

I had the same problem. I updated my WM5 to WM6....and it stoped syncing with my computer. Went back to exchange it. Later, I learned it wasn't the problem with the phone syncing.....here's how you can fix the problem.
Click on Start>Settings>Connection Tab>USB to PC
Uncheck "Enable advanced network functionality"
Click on "ok"
I just upgraded to wm6 again and followed these steps....now it syns fine.
It worked for me.....hopefully it will work for you.
Peace

ActiveSync not working (all of a sudden)

Hi All
I searched the Forum but couldn't find a solution to this problem.
1. Came back form holiday yesterday - synced up my HD" with Outlook no problem
2. Tried to do it this morning. By the normal 'connect PC' option didn't come up and activsync icon didn'tr light up on PC
3. Rebooted HD2 and PC..no change
4. Tried to repair/reinstall activ sync, but towards the end of the repair it says 'there was a network error reading from file 'setup/msi'. Guessing that the file may be corrupt, I downloaded it again..same problem..so I can't repair or reinstall
5. There is definitely a connection of some sort as the HD2 begins to charge when connected
Bottom line is that the HD2 is not syncing - and I can't figure out why not.
Any advice appreciated...
Thanks

Do you have a Norton (Symantec) firewall installed? I’ve found that the Norton product can interfere with ActiveSync.

Active Sync not working
Good point..but no. I have AVG installed (and everything was working OK yesterday)
Spooky thing is, I have managed to uninstal, reinstal and reboot..and it still won't show that it's connected with AS even though there is a connection of some kind, cos the device is charging.
Steve

ActiveSync is just a bit crap. It'll do this occassionaly, so if you use it a lot then get used to it.
A restart of the phone, whilst the USB cable is not plugged in, usually does the trick. Only plug it in again when it's fully started.
Also, try setting the AS connection to not allow USB connections, unplugging and plugging back in, and then setting it to once again allow USB connections.
Just messing with it like that usually works for me. Like I said, it's just a bit crap.

Activ Sync
Yeah, I seem to recall I had this problem a while back - I'll faff around with the settings and see if it makes a difference
Steve

stevep said:
Good point..but no. I have AVG installed (and everything was working OK yesterday)
Spooky thing is, I have managed to uninstal, reinstal and reboot..and it still won't show that it's connected with AS even though there is a connection of some kind, cos the device is charging.
Steve
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Well if johncmolyneux's suggestions don't work then try disconnecting your phone from the PC, restarting both, disconnecting the PC from the network, disabling the firewall element of AVG (if it has one) and then connecting the phone to the PC again.
If that doesn't work I can only suggest removing ActiveSync, totally shutting down your PC, starting up, then re-installing ActiveSync.
I had a similar problem but I was able to narrow it down to Norton in the end but it's a real pain when you don't know why it won't work.
Good luck with this.

I also occasionally was not able to connect with Active Sync, but rebooting the HD2 always fixes that issue. You said that this did not helped you, so try messing with the settings on Active Sync, like johncmolyneux said, also try when plug the usb cable into the device by default it asks you what kind of connection you're establishing (Active sync, data transfer and internet sharing) - try using data transfer, if it connects, unplug and connect it again, this time use active sync.

Reinstall activsync and Try to disable faster data Synchonization on HD2

Active Sync not working (solved)
That'll teach me to not check the obvious! - It turned out that the cable had developed a fault. I changed the cable and it's now OK.
Case closed.
Steve