Hey all, is it just me or can it take up to like 30 seconds for the wizard to fully load? (Possinly more?) I have heard of overclocking stuff, like PSPs and PDAs but i thought that I thought that it must have a pretty bad effect on the device, as it is running at speeds its not meant to. Please can somebody give me some info, and tell me the best way to speed up the loading process and maybe the rest of the device.
Thanks!
It takes more then 30 sec. to start my qtek 9100 (Wizard) too, and I have overclocked it to 260Mhz (with Omap, batterystatus). I usually overclock my device everytime I have flash it with a nwe rom, and it works faster but I dont think it boot faster. Hope this help, and sorry for my english...
WM6
Hi,
I had the same problem to.
But i flasht my Wizard with the windows mobile 6 rom.
know it only takes about 10 seconds .
(rom = XM6)
Greets Antonius
So is it worth overclocking? Will it have any major effect on my Wizard? And will it speed up all of the programs?
antonius01 said:
Hi,
know it only takes about 10 seconds .
(rom = XM6)
Greets Antonius
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HUH???
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delude said:
So is it worth overclocking? Will it have any major effect on my Wizard? And will it speed up all of the programs?
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Yes, it will speedup all programs. I use OMAP in Batterystatus to overclock my qtek 9100 and it works great.
I've thought about it again, so can somebody point me to a guide, or tell me which programs I need and which settings I should have. Also if overclocking will damage it in any way.
Thanks!
Anybody? PLease post somebody
I use a battery status app wich has omap overclocking buit in.
use this url
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm
you should get it there.
dead easy to use but dont overclock more than 250 to be safe.
heres the cab file
use any of this programs, battery status, which has some other options that monitors your device, like mem, programs, sd card mem, temp, etc, the other is omapclock
Nice Thanks. Do you know of any 'horrific' effects that this has? Does it overheat or anything?
to much of an overclock will result in horrific battery drain, lockup and possibly even cpu frying.
I think the cab i posted has a limit to what you can clock it too for safety.
Cool, thanks very much.
When you 'set' the overclock (i set it to 247, is this what you have?) does it stay until you set it back? Or does it reset the overclock next time you turn your device off (so that it is reset to normal)?
Aww, I still can't play call of duty on it properly.
when u set it to what ever thats what the clock will run at until a reset / power off.
there is an option to choose to return to the chosen clock speed after a power on/off, reset or from waking up from sleep mode.
Thanks again
I see you're also in the UK, do you use GPRS on your wizard? If so, are you on a contract, or pay as you go. Its just that pay as you go O2 have really expensive charges for GPRS.
sometimes yes. im on contract with vodafone so I can use internet on my phone for up too 15mb a day for a flat fee of £1.
o2 were always expensive.
they do do data bot ons which is cuts costs if u really must use it.
the bolt ons are only for o2 active though, not the whole GPRS. Out of internest, how much do you pay monthly?
EDIT: I see vodafone pay as you go have the same idea as t-mobile, and are both doing the £1 a day thing.
im paying £25 per month for 400 txts and around 500 cross network minutes with the extra £1 if i use gprs
roughly bills come in at about £40.
Yes both contract and p&g doing the £1 browse thingy which is worth it
dole_95 said:
It takes more then 30 sec. to start my qtek 9100 (Wizard) too, and I have overclocked it to 260Mhz (with Omap, batterystatus). I usually overclock my device everytime I have flash it with a nwe rom, and it works faster but I dont think it boot faster. Hope this help, and sorry for my english...
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I have the extended version of BS installed, much better version with tray options as well as all the other options. My 8125 is overclocked to 208MHz, and sometimes it takes nearly 2mins. just to load a page on the internet, let alone a program. I'm also on the PDA unlimited plan($39.99) more on top of my base plan of $39.99 and have these issues with loading pages??? The 8125 has a slow processor, and overclocking will not speed up the processor.
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Has anyone noticed any long term disadvantages to overclocking the Wizard? Does the battery life permanently decrease? What speeds are you running yours at, and how long have you been doing it? Have you noticed anything at all which indicates it's not good for the hardware?
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i believe that it's safe to overclock the mda...just set it at an acceptable rate (264mhz for me) and make sure not to run the battery all the way down...if you overclock the settings too high the device will freeze and reset (this is a fail safe procedure it goes through), so there is no need to worry...also don't overclock the settings too low as the phone becomes disfunctional when too low (about less than 132mhz for me)...the screen flickers because it's not being refreshed quick enough (my guess)...hope this helps...
I would set it to 240. I have done before, i'm just wondering if it's a bad idea leaving it permanently set to that level?
Cheers
yea you should be fine at that speed, but if you want you can overclock it higher if it will let you...just make sure that the phone is stable when using it...like i said in my earlier post my device is oc at 264mhz
Cool, thanks for your replies. How long have you had yours overclocked for? Do you use Smartskey?
Cheers
My self i ownly use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.
My self i only use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.
Mine is also set at 264 24/7. Battery still lasts me all day. Been doing it since the oc program was found which I guess has been a couple of months.
Don't forget, you're wizard is only overclocked when it is active (i.e. not in standby mode). When your wizard goes into standby, it automatically goes back to the default 180mhz. Only when you bring it out of standby does it overclock again (assuming you're running it with smartskey with the option of overclocking on wakeup)
i'm using smartkey to constantly run at 264mhz...i have been doing this for a month now...like i said there is not really any problems with the batt unless you run it down totally...there was a post about this in the overclocking thread...the process is set low so that the phone will have a longer batt life...this was also stated in the overclocking thread...theoretically there is more wear if you overclock it since you are making the processor work harder, so use it at your own risk! if you want to be on the safe side then use smartkey and the overclocking prog in the same directory...then use total commander's note pad (while the ini file is highlighted) and change the value lower when you don't want it to constantly run at 264mhz or whatever speed you want to overclock or underclock at...just use it when needed, but i overclock mine constant 264mhz with great results combined with tweaks2k2, registry wizard, and of course the tmobile custom rom ...internet is a blast...just wish i could get it to run like the IE in a pc
anyways hope this helps out a bit further...
activesync
your activesync will hang allot if you overclock, I have noticed this.
DOnt know why.
For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.
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For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.
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hey sonic, where did you get your copy of warcraft 2 for windows mobile ?
I've never heard of warcraft for Windows mobile, how does it run on a 240 MHz overclock?
I got it from the Wargus engine. i can email you the files if need be, i dont want to jeprodize this sites reputation. The game last time i checked was free though...
Actually I'm not sure if it's the overclocking issue or not but ...
For couple of weeks now my Wizard's red led is on all the time, not like it is when your battery is very low but about half of this brightness. I'm not really worried about that, it doesn't change much but it may be connected with overclocking (it was 240 for about a month).
Another thing - once I had sth like 110% speed of every tone played, either a phone call or an incoming message.
It doesn't really matter to me since it's still working fine but it may mean that overclocking isn't that safe as we might think.
TroLoo
PocketHack Master V4 is now out with Tytn support. Be warned that at it's highest setting of 440mhz i had to HARD reset my device.... Must start at a lower speed next time and work my way up!
I'm still in the middle of restoring!!
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PocketHack Master V4 is now out with Tytn support. Be warned that at it's highest setting of 440mhz i had to HARD reset my device.... Must start at a lower speed next time and work my way up!
I'm still in the middle of restoring!!
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have you found a need to overclock the device then...., might works fine for what I use it for
Thanks for pointing this out... I updated the FAQs on the wiki.
It automatically scales the processor voltage onSamsung S3C2440 processors
so does this clock it over 440mhz, because an extra 40mhz doesnt really sound worthy of paying for software, especially when the TyTN is pretty snappy?
So... do you need to stick it in a fridge or anything afterwards?
I think the main idea of using the program is to allow a "super battery saving" mode, by underclocking the device it will use less power....obviously impacting performance-wise but still!
The main reason I wanted PHM was to help render web pages faster. My tytn downloads quicker than the works PC on normal broadband but the pages take longer to 'finalize' the page (i.e.. you can scroll down a page and it's still inserting images). This is a CPU speed issue.
I have finally got to play with PHM and it still needs more work! Just doing a test at tytn's default 400Mhz crashes my phone, never mind higher! I never got much higher than 300Mhz, how strange!!
Hack Master V4 not ready for primetime!
As others have noted, don't waste your time on Hack Master v4. I played with it, only to find it causes crashes, no matter what you do. Also, I found that it caused an incomplete Hard Reset. So, I had to do the manual hard reset twice, to get TYTN working again correctly.
Also, the Wiki should be updated to show there are still problems for anyone wanting to OC the TYTN.
I stupidly tried PHM too, and have just suffered a partial hard reset. Here goes the long and frustrating reinstall...
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I stupidly tried PHM too, and have just suffered a partial hard reset. Here goes the long and frustrating reinstall...
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aren't we allowed to take these people to court? False advertising and damaging my equipment? They must have had enough emails by now and yet the same program is still there advertising the same things, very poor...
We should probably change the title of this thread to say "OVERCLOCKING: DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT..." :idea:
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aren't we allowed to take these people to court? False advertising and damaging my equipment? They must have had enough emails by now and yet the same program is still there advertising the same things, very poor...
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They can get away with it through the fact that they tell you to backup your device before you use the program. Coming from an XDAII where PHM worked perfectly though, I stupidly assumed that the quality of the product would be at least the same or even better after numerous updates.
I'm pretty much set up again now, but I'll certainly be looking at purchasing a backup solution before I put my trust in something like that again.
Don't think about it, even with a backup... While trying to overclock my TyTN smoothly, it's now on the way to service (no more booting at all...)
Gx
Oops ... you should have read this thread before even trying overcloking ...
sorry for ya mate !!!
I find my Jasjam (Hermes) runs very fast and I don't see the point in over clocking it when it runs fast enough normally.
Have XCPU Scaler, in autoscale mode working up to 500mhz, on a cingular 8525 (HERM100), no resets, no problem.
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Also scaled down to 200mhz on the low side for super battery saver.
?Glitch
?Glitch that is amazing not just the speed but the fact that their is no problems!!!!!!!!
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Have XCPU Scaler, in autoscale mode working up to 500mhz, on a cingular 8525 (HERM100), no resets, no problem.
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Also scaled down to 200mhz on the low side for super battery saver.
?Glitch
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you'll be needing one of those new spangly batteries with extra life to cope with a processor increase like that.
@?Glitch: Can you post some screenshots?
That's awesome .. Has anyone else tried this program out? How's it working for you?
I'm using the XCPUScalar with its CPU load based setting.
Normally I set the speed to only 200MHz while on heavy load it speed-up back to 400MHz and 500NHz on very high load.
On day-to-day use it looks like extending the battery life (working on lower clock rate) whiles much quicker route calculation when using the navigation program.
Currently I faced now problem.
Anyone tried this program? I am using OmapClockPlus now but I like the idea of using different speeds depending on the load to save battery. Especially the underclocking while idle.
Was thinking of trying Pocket Hack Master but it seemed to freeze up the wizard requiring a hard reset.
This program even lists the Wizard/K-Jam/Qtek 9100 in the list of devices it works with.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7325
I have just tried this program and it works - good find. Cannot try autoscale because it is disabled in trial version. Someone needs to pay $15 and report back
cab attached
So does this automatically adjust the clock speed depending on the wizards state then? i.e does it slow the clock speed down when it goes idle then speed it up again on resuming?
Does not omapscaler do that already? [autoscale on load]
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Anyone tried this program? I am using OmapClockPlus now but I like the idea of using different speeds depending on the load to save battery. Especially the underclocking while idle.
Was thinking of trying Pocket Hack Master but it seemed to freeze up the wizard requiring a hard reset.
This program even lists the Wizard/K-Jam/Qtek 9100 in the list of devices it works with.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7325
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i was using this for a few hours, but had issues with it soft resetting itself... i think maybe it was the scaling function cause it seemed to do it when only sometimes when switching speeds..
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Does not omapscaler do that already? [autoscale on load]
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Hi faria - omapscaler does do this but at the moment is too unstable and buggy to use long term. Interesting to see if xcpuscalar is stable or not.
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i was using this for a few hours, but had issues with it soft resetting itself... i think maybe it was the scaling function cause it seemed to do it when only sometimes when switching speeds..
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Have you purchased xcpuscalar 2007 then? shame if its is unstable.
mb5049 - yes this is what it does - cpu speed varies on load.
xcpuscalar has a max speed of 260mhz - which is a shame.
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Does not omapscaler do that already? [autoscale on load]
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True, but it only goes from Default to your own setting. The scaling works so you can have a lower clockspeed, as low as 100 MHz while idle, and only as high as it has to be with heavier load. This ought to save a lot of battery.
But if you want it to clock at eg. 240 MHz all the time and default while idle OmapClockPlus would be your choice. I'm really happy with the program but I'm not so happy with the battery usage and am trying to find a way to extend it.
warrenty
i have tmobile u.s mda. will it work with it? will it void my warrenty? thnx.
In the forum at Immiersoft.com there are quite a few K-jam owners reporting unstability. The issue seems to have been brought to their attention so hopefully they will soon release a stable update.
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In the forum at Immiersoft.com there are quite a few K-jam owners reporting unstability. The issue seems to have been brought to their attention so hopefully they will soon release a stable update.
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It may not be the software but the processor that is causing the instability. It may not like its speed being varied so often. Omapscalar is unstable too - maybe this is why.
you mean this is payware? ha ha ha... i had no idea...
here is the story... someone sent me the retail zip, had an exe, a readme, an install, and a cab.. so i wasnt near my computer, downloaded to my phone, used the pokcet zip and installed the cab... nowhere did it say anything about registration... nor does it now...
I read on another forum that people who are experiencing lockups to try changing the power setting to "turbo" or "max performance."
It should stop the lockups, I suppose.
Reply back to see if that solves the issue. If it does, then I'm gonna try it out.
Sent my wizard into a endless reset loop. Brought me back to my Treo650 days. I'm going back to omap which has been working fine so far.
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All,
Find below the retail version... Enjoy
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Dont be an asshole and post software. The guy wrote the program and if he wants to charge he can - if you want ot use it THEN PAY!!!!! I bought it - it didnt work (resets) he was happy to refund my money.
I have reported your dumb ass to the board admins
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I read on another forum that people who are experiencing lockups to try changing the power setting to "turbo" or "max performance."
It should stop the lockups, I suppose.
Reply back to see if that solves the issue. If it does, then I'm gonna try it out.
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the wizard does not have power settings like that, that is for the dell axim's, its in the readme file
I have been using it for about a week now and it's totally stable. I have set my KJAM to autoscale from 195 to 247. Smooth as silk.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278193
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Dont be an asshole and post software. The guy wrote the program and if he wants to charge he can - if you want ot use it THEN PAY!!!!! I bought it - it didnt work (resets) he was happy to refund my money.
I have reported your dumb ass to the board admins
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Thanks for the heads-up; deleted.
JNGold said:
I have been using it for about a week now and it's totally stable. I have set my KJAM to autoscale from 195 to 247. Smooth as silk.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278193
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Glad to see it works for you - unfortunately I was unable to get it to be stable even at 234. It did seem to scale correctly when it was workign though. I hope the author can sort out the issues.
Then, it seems I won't review this version either - I've sent the developer a mail to ask for a reviewable version if it's already bug-free. I'll wait, it seems
I got hack master and can't seem to get over about 340 and my 8525 locks up. wanderng if this was common. I saw another thread on it, but not very informative. Also curious as to what the "actual" speed of the samsung processor is out of the box, and if pocket hack is even getting me anything extra. Thanks
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I got hack master and can't seem to get over about 340 and my 8525 locks up. wanderng if this was common. I saw another thread on it, but not very informative. Also curious as to what the "actual" speed of the samsung processor is out of the box, and if pocket hack is even getting me anything extra. Thanks
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Hermes = 400MHz
In my view PHM is of more use to reduce CPU speed to conserve battery than trying an overclock which at best is reported as 440MHz. I'm also not convinced by the reported MHz values in this programme (for Hermes anyway).
Did you see these two threads?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276317
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273380
Mike
for me overclock does not work, only underclock, but when I try to set higher frequencies, and my device freeze, after SR something interresting happend. the first configuration wizard appeared to configure device (tap to cros few times, set date, password etc) BUT all data and installed programs was in still in there and worked correctly, only today screen has been reseted, and progs installed on today did not work correctly. contacts, SMS, mails was in there untouched... I did HR but I saw this for first time
what is the highest that the wing can be overclocked and what would be the best program to do so?
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what is the highest that the wing can be overclocked and what would be the best program to do so?
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You are prob going to be slammed with 'use the search feature', but, I'm bored as hell at work, so I thought I'd help.
You will find many people use different speeds, and different programs. The two I've used are batterystatus and Omap. Personally, I like batterystatus, and I've safely clocked mine to 299mhz.
BatteryStatus? Isn't that way old?
I highly recommend HomeScreen Plus Plus (which is the new version of Battery Status) just google it and you'll find it and download the Advanced verson not the Basic one.
And I safely overclock it to 299 with no problems. I went to 312 once but every so often the phone would rest itself.
HS++ is also good cause it auto underclocks and auto overclocks your device so when your phone is sleeping it saves battery .
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BatteryStatus? Isn't that way old?
I highly recommend HomeScreen Plus Plus (which is the new version of Battery Status) just google it and you'll find it and download the Advanced verson not the Basic one.
And I safely overclock it to 299 with no problems. I went to 312 once but every so often the phone would rest itself.
HS++ is also good cause it auto underclocks and auto overclocks your device so when your phone is sleeping it saves battery .
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+1000000 this is awesome man! thanks
i want to thank everyone that had responded i did a little research and i was confused. ya see i am using batterystatus .04 and if i go above 260 my phone freezes and to be quite frank i had 2 wizards that i believe died from overclocking. they both one day randomly after a reset went to the bootloader screen and stayed. i had tried a hard reset and flashing the unit with no luck personally i dont have a clue what happened and with this one being my only source of 'net access i cannot mess it over once again thank everyone whom responded
-rastlin
Hmm wow I'm sorry for your Wizard but the Wings can go up to 299mhz without dying and the good thing about HS++ is that if you enable CPU Scaler and set the overclock to say... like 400 and your phone freezes, just plug in your charger and reset your phone. The CPU Scaler is disabled as long as you have a power cord plugged in your phone (your phone stays on it's native speed) so you can just go back into the CPU Scaler overclock settings and lower it and try again ^_^!!
So just use the CPU Scaler to find the highest overclock speed but never just set the overclock speed in the normal overclock menu. Use the CPU Scaler auto overclock option and you won't need to hard reset your phone.
thanks for the advice. so it is possible to kill a unit with overclocking i just wanted to be sure, cause when i asked in the wizard forms if i am not mistaken no one answered me. i had also asked hct via a number provided to me by tmobile and they said the stock "i dunno we will have to look at the unit and that will be $180" towhich i responded f**k!! that i can get a new unit for under 130 off of ebay then got a wing....
-rastlin