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overclocking now available!!

PocketHack Master V4 is now out with Tytn support. Be warned that at it's highest setting of 440mhz i had to HARD reset my device.... Must start at a lower speed next time and work my way up!
I'm still in the middle of restoring!!

johnk1973 said:
PocketHack Master V4 is now out with Tytn support. Be warned that at it's highest setting of 440mhz i had to HARD reset my device.... Must start at a lower speed next time and work my way up!
I'm still in the middle of restoring!!
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have you found a need to overclock the device then...., might works fine for what I use it for

Thanks for pointing this out... I updated the FAQs on the wiki.
It automatically scales the processor voltage onSamsung S3C2440 processors

so does this clock it over 440mhz, because an extra 40mhz doesnt really sound worthy of paying for software, especially when the TyTN is pretty snappy?

So... do you need to stick it in a fridge or anything afterwards?

I think the main idea of using the program is to allow a "super battery saving" mode, by underclocking the device it will use less power....obviously impacting performance-wise but still!

The main reason I wanted PHM was to help render web pages faster. My tytn downloads quicker than the works PC on normal broadband but the pages take longer to 'finalize' the page (i.e.. you can scroll down a page and it's still inserting images). This is a CPU speed issue.
I have finally got to play with PHM and it still needs more work! Just doing a test at tytn's default 400Mhz crashes my phone, never mind higher! I never got much higher than 300Mhz, how strange!!

Hack Master V4 not ready for primetime!
As others have noted, don't waste your time on Hack Master v4. I played with it, only to find it causes crashes, no matter what you do. Also, I found that it caused an incomplete Hard Reset. So, I had to do the manual hard reset twice, to get TYTN working again correctly.
Also, the Wiki should be updated to show there are still problems for anyone wanting to OC the TYTN.

I stupidly tried PHM too, and have just suffered a partial hard reset. Here goes the long and frustrating reinstall...

grayhaze said:
I stupidly tried PHM too, and have just suffered a partial hard reset. Here goes the long and frustrating reinstall...
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aren't we allowed to take these people to court? False advertising and damaging my equipment? They must have had enough emails by now and yet the same program is still there advertising the same things, very poor...

We should probably change the title of this thread to say "OVERCLOCKING: DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT..." :idea:

johnk1973 said:
aren't we allowed to take these people to court? False advertising and damaging my equipment? They must have had enough emails by now and yet the same program is still there advertising the same things, very poor...
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They can get away with it through the fact that they tell you to backup your device before you use the program. Coming from an XDAII where PHM worked perfectly though, I stupidly assumed that the quality of the product would be at least the same or even better after numerous updates.
I'm pretty much set up again now, but I'll certainly be looking at purchasing a backup solution before I put my trust in something like that again.

Don't think about it, even with a backup... While trying to overclock my TyTN smoothly, it's now on the way to service (no more booting at all...)
Gx

Oops ... you should have read this thread before even trying overcloking ...
sorry for ya mate !!!

I find my Jasjam (Hermes) runs very fast and I don't see the point in over clocking it when it runs fast enough normally.

Have XCPU Scaler, in autoscale mode working up to 500mhz, on a cingular 8525 (HERM100), no resets, no problem.
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Also scaled down to 200mhz on the low side for super battery saver.
?Glitch

?Glitch that is amazing not just the speed but the fact that their is no problems!!!!!!!!

?Glitch said:
Have XCPU Scaler, in autoscale mode working up to 500mhz, on a cingular 8525 (HERM100), no resets, no problem.
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Also scaled down to 200mhz on the low side for super battery saver.
?Glitch
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you'll be needing one of those new spangly batteries with extra life to cope with a processor increase like that.

@?Glitch: Can you post some screenshots?
That's awesome .. Has anyone else tried this program out? How's it working for you?

I'm using the XCPUScalar with its CPU load based setting.
Normally I set the speed to only 200MHz while on heavy load it speed-up back to 400MHz and 500NHz on very high load.
On day-to-day use it looks like extending the battery life (working on lower clock rate) whiles much quicker route calculation when using the navigation program.
Currently I faced now problem.

TyTN/Hermes users - request for testing BatteryStatus today plugin

recently i have found really nice piece of software for our beloved toys - BatteryStatus today plugin, which has some interesting features, such as showing current battery charge, available memory, network name and also call time and SMS counter. more information and downloads are on author's website and Prophet forum:
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270751 (MASSIVE thread!)
i've started using it few days ago, but i noticed that it does not count outgoing call times right, while message counter works fine. author of BS replied that he never got that issue reported, so i'm thinking it may be some kind of hardware-related problem with Hermes/TyTN only. author also said that he got one complain about rebooting problems from Hermes user, however i didn't notice anything like that.
since mentioned thread is too big to check it up quickly, i thought it will be good idea to set up separate thread on TyTN forum, so anyone could install BS and test it and that way give feedback to developer.
please report your observations on BatteryStatus below in this thread. TIA.

I will test it tonight, it looks great.

I take it this will still only report in increments of 10%?

LeoPheonix said:
I take it this will still only report in increments of 10%?
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no, it will not. A future rom upgrade will hopefully fix it, but no application will do it as the 10% increments are reported by the OS power management functions which all the battery reporting tools query to show you the status.

So it works normally, but for CPU Speed it 300Mhz is that Normal?

Jorshua said:
So it works normally, but for CPU Speed it 300Mhz is that Normal?
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Might be wrong so dont quote me
But does the CPU not slow down if not being used ? so maybe would show 300Mhz at certain times ?

I don't know, that's why I am asking.
Did somebody else test the program?

I'll install it tomorrow and report back my initial findings and/or bug reports... Getting a replacement TyTn sometime next week, as I've started to had microphone issues, so I'll have a chance to test on two devices

I forgot to post my comments! Oops :X
Might as well bump this thread cause imo it's worth it
Well, it's installed on my Hermes, and it's working perfectly - no spontaneous reboots (yet!), loads of stuff displayed, and it all just.. works. Perfect. Using v.04.200 build 0171.

Did someone try it with WM6?

killabeezz said:
Might be wrong so dont quote me
But does the CPU not slow down if not being used ? so maybe would show 300Mhz at certain times ?
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i get a speed of 400Mhz!!

i have been using this piece of software since i got my TYTN its a good piece of software only thing i notice is some screen alignmewnt problems, and call counter

Prerna said:
Did someone try it with WM6?
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Yes, works with no problems at all.

I liked the software, but my phone was having stability issues so it had to go.
The power consumption report was most interesting and now I know to keep IE closed and that turning the back light down from level 2 brightness to level 1 uses half the power, hopefully doubling the battery life
I'm using LVSW 19-5-07 ROM (WM6) but can't blame this BatteryStatus for the issues I was having, but things have improved since. I also had a number of other programs in the Today screen, so may have been an odd combination...
Ciao! Oggy.

This is excellent software.. i have worked with ikarus on some of the fixes for hermes... and would suggest anyone who is going to download this to get it from the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270751 instead of from his site... the old version used to report a 300Mhz cpu.. this has since been fixed.. i have had issues with it counting anything outgoing, sms, call's, data, etc... But its very nice software...

HTC Performance (overclocking cab) safe for 8525?

I want to overclock my 8525 as it's really been slow lately, and I've read a lot of threads about PocketHackmaster not working correctly and xcpu scaler not being correct for our CPU, etc, etc.
But I came across some good feedback on the HTC Performance cab working very well on Apache and some other HTC phones to make them work a lot faster with little noticable drop off on battery life, and I wanted to see if anyone knows if this overclocking cab will work safely on our 8525's before I tinker with it (I don't want to risk a hard reset).
Thanks.

JK8732 said:
But I came across some good feedback on the HTC Performance cab working very well on Apache and some other HTC phones to make them work a lot faster with little noticable drop off on battery life, and I wanted to see if anyone knows if this overclocking cab will work safely on our 8525's before I tinker with it (I don't want to risk a hard reset).
Thanks.
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Where's the thread info for this HTC Performance cab? If it workes on hermes, then I'd have thought we would have heard about it? I would say don't do it based on this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2359934

JK8732 said:
I want to overclock my 8525 as it's really been slow lately, and I've read a lot of threads about PocketHackmaster not working correctly and xcpu scaler not being correct for our CPU, etc, etc.
But I came across some good feedback on the HTC Performance cab working very well on Apache and some other HTC phones to make them work a lot faster with little noticable drop off on battery life, and I wanted to see if anyone knows if this overclocking cab will work safely on our 8525's before I tinker with it (I don't want to risk a hard reset).
Thanks.
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If you search on google, you can find there are a few posts saying you shouldn't be doing this, if you want to have a longer battery and a longer life of your device. If you want to upgrade in the next 3 to 6 months why not, try it out. Here is the file, ... I would not go near it, happy enough to use my current ROM the way it is.
Check this post what it did to the kaiser.
Here is the cab for those who's willing to try.
Edit, don't bother it doesn't work, the mod has advised if you look at the post and the rest of the thread above.

galaxys said:
Where's the thread info for this HTC Performance cab? If it workes on hermes, then I'd have thought we would have heard about it? I would say don't do it based on this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2359934
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I did a Google search on overclocking after going thru XDA first, and came across this thread on PPC Geeks: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11573
I've tried xpu scaler before and didn't see any difference (and subsequently read a couple threads saying it wasn't made for the Samsung CPU in our 8525's), so I wanted to see if there was another one out there that could reliably upgrade the speed of the 8525.
I may give this one a whirl and let you know unless anyone has any other suggestions on one I should try instead...

Ok, so I've been running this HTC Performance cab for a few days now on my 8525, and I definitely think it's running smoother with it on (I was just messing around turning it on and off and went to the same programs, etc, and I see a noticable difference in how fast things are opening and closing)
I have it set on 520 mhz 'maximal cpu speed', with 'enable dynamic cpu frequence changing' checked
I haven't had a chance to check battery life as I was playing around most of yesterday installing a new spb pocket plus program and messing with adding icons, etc, but I'll report back and let you know if I notice anything different with battery life as well.

zocster said:
If you search on google, you can find there are a few posts saying you shouldn't be doing this, if you want to have a longer battery and a longer life of your device. If you want to upgrade in the next 3 to 6 months why not, try it out. Here is the file, ... I would not go near it, happy enough to use my current ROM the way it is.
Check this post what it did to the kaiser.
Here is the cab for those who's willing to try.
Edit, don't bother it doesn't work, the mod has advised if you look at the post and the rest of the thread above.
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forgive me but how do you install this cab or how do you work it just to try it you know please get back to me

I installed it on my Dopod 838pro running Schaps 4.30 yesterday.
Nothing happened for a while.
No menu or shortcut to activate the speed up either.
When I got home last night, the Dopod is practically dead!
It would power on & flicker out before it completely boots up.
Luckily, I had my firiend's old Dopod in my drawer.
Took a charged battery from the spare and my 'bricked' Dopod came to life.
But died again later that night.
Hard resting it did no good either.
Looks like it flattens the battery & then refuses to charge it!
Today, I put another freshly charged battery, booted it and flashed in Satin Normal.
Right now, it is connected to my notebook and when turned on shows the battery as slowly charging. Hope it stays fixed!
I recommend all folks avoid this patch!
Stay tuned!

Phew!
After waiting anxiously overnight, it appears that re-flashing my ROM (from Schaps 4.30 to Black Satin Normal) seems to have fixed my problem.
Battery is still at 90%!

overclocking

what is the highest that the wing can be overclocked and what would be the best program to do so?

rastlin said:
what is the highest that the wing can be overclocked and what would be the best program to do so?
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You are prob going to be slammed with 'use the search feature', but, I'm bored as hell at work, so I thought I'd help.
You will find many people use different speeds, and different programs. The two I've used are batterystatus and Omap. Personally, I like batterystatus, and I've safely clocked mine to 299mhz.

BatteryStatus? Isn't that way old?
I highly recommend HomeScreen Plus Plus (which is the new version of Battery Status) just google it and you'll find it and download the Advanced verson not the Basic one.
And I safely overclock it to 299 with no problems. I went to 312 once but every so often the phone would rest itself.
HS++ is also good cause it auto underclocks and auto overclocks your device so when your phone is sleeping it saves battery .

buru898 said:
BatteryStatus? Isn't that way old?
I highly recommend HomeScreen Plus Plus (which is the new version of Battery Status) just google it and you'll find it and download the Advanced verson not the Basic one.
And I safely overclock it to 299 with no problems. I went to 312 once but every so often the phone would rest itself.
HS++ is also good cause it auto underclocks and auto overclocks your device so when your phone is sleeping it saves battery .
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+1000000 this is awesome man! thanks

i want to thank everyone that had responded i did a little research and i was confused. ya see i am using batterystatus .04 and if i go above 260 my phone freezes and to be quite frank i had 2 wizards that i believe died from overclocking. they both one day randomly after a reset went to the bootloader screen and stayed. i had tried a hard reset and flashing the unit with no luck personally i dont have a clue what happened and with this one being my only source of 'net access i cannot mess it over once again thank everyone whom responded
-rastlin

Hmm wow I'm sorry for your Wizard but the Wings can go up to 299mhz without dying and the good thing about HS++ is that if you enable CPU Scaler and set the overclock to say... like 400 and your phone freezes, just plug in your charger and reset your phone. The CPU Scaler is disabled as long as you have a power cord plugged in your phone (your phone stays on it's native speed) so you can just go back into the CPU Scaler overclock settings and lower it and try again ^_^!!
So just use the CPU Scaler to find the highest overclock speed but never just set the overclock speed in the normal overclock menu. Use the CPU Scaler auto overclock option and you won't need to hard reset your phone.

thanks for the advice. so it is possible to kill a unit with overclocking i just wanted to be sure, cause when i asked in the wizard forms if i am not mistaken no one answered me. i had also asked hct via a number provided to me by tmobile and they said the stock "i dunno we will have to look at the unit and that will be $180" towhich i responded f**k!! that i can get a new unit for under 130 off of ebay then got a wing....
-rastlin

We can now overclock our phones!

Couldn't really see any discussion on this yet, and personally it's in a location on the forum that I rarely visit but I've found an overclock tool that is slowly becoming very good indeed for our processors. Link to thread is here. I'm soo far up from 528Mhz to 748Mhz (been stable for the past 6 hours no problem). Just make sure to follow the thread (instructions are linked to ensure overclock remains applied through scripts and 3rd party apps). Should take no longer than 30mins for a well versed user to set up. Please don't try this if you haven't got a clue what you are doing as there is soo much scope for error and dead phones! You may also need to customise any scripts to your specific phone/software build. CDMA phones as usual are different from what I've heard. But anyway good luck, I'm gonna keep trying to push the Mhz up (aiming for 850Mhz ).

Not sure its a good idea to go past 700 mhz,our phones run hot as it is under capacity,as with gaming rigs heat is your Enemy,the cooler you keep it the faster.

It's actually remained pretty cool, and when it's in my pocket it's only running at stock clocks anyway. Only when I'm using it does it get to the full 748Mhz. Running wifi router and charger and temps are not noticeably hotter than usual...

um... ive been clocked up to 787 highly stable for the last like 2 weeks. No heat problems, no battery problems, just insane speed.
recommendations: Download v1, not v2. ESP if you dont know what you're doing. Then download the zip im attaching, there's 2 mortscripts in there and a registry addition, THESE MUST BE IN THE STORAGE CARD ROOT. use the regisitry addition FIRST (just associate w/e regedit software you use, then run the .reg file in total commander), then go back to total commander, edit the .mscr "Toggle_boost" and adjust the value boost = "x" to whatever value you want the phone to OC at, eg boost = 41 is 787mhz which is stable for me, test yours out.
THEN, open and install rhodiumkbdcontrol (attached), reboot, go to settings>system>keyboard config> add key
1st pick which key you want to be the OC boost swtich, I have it mapped to my PTT button. click the plus sign, drop down menu, run program, then highlight "run program" in the list then click "..." then type in
Program: \windows\mortscript.exe
Arguments: "\storage card\toggle_boost.mscr"
This time you wanna use the power key.
same general instructions except
Program: \windows\mortscript.exe
Arguments: "\storage card\boost_off.mscr"
then plus sign again, drop down menu, default key action, and click extended emulation. THEN hit update config. should work like a charm, also autoover clocks to 610, the boost button with send you up the w/e the boost = "x" is set to, and then back again, most find 710mhz to be the stable point, and feel free to ask questions

sorry, heres the zips

wouldnt overclocking also gives you a higher chance of frying your CPU chip? cuz ive seen it happened in PCs i just idk about PPCs

I agree that there are virtually no ill effects to this. When unlocked, I have my phone running at 787 mhz. While it is locked or sleeping it throttles down to 604 and eventually 528 mhz. I have noticed no extra heat nor extra drain on the battery. Just blazing fast speed! Sense 2.5 is virually not laggy at all! CHT 1.8.5 is so smooth and quick even with the aminations enabled!
If anyone is interested in the automated clocking process, I can help by giving my set-up that is working flawlessly on the ROM in my signature!

miked79928 said:
I agree that there are virtually no ill effects to this. When unlocked, I have my phone running at 787 mhz. While it is locked or sleeping it throttles down to 604 and eventually 528 mhz. I have noticed no extra heat nor extra drain on the battery. Just blazing fast speed! Sense 2.5 is virually not laggy at all! CHT 1.8.5 is so smooth and quick even with the aminations enabled!
If anyone is interested in the automated clocking process, I can help by giving my set-up that is working flawlessly on the ROM in my signature!
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Yeah could you hook that up? I think posting it here would be best but pm'ing works just as well
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I just read threw the above links and guides and was wondering if there is a more automated way of setting this up rather than having to link it to a button press. I'm guessing this has not been figured out yet (or the guides would have mention of it ). Just curious.

dantegl36 said:
Yeah could you hook that up? I think posting it here would be best but pm'ing works just as well
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Here is the best way I have found to do it. I take absolutely no credit for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7354283&postcount=627

Check it!
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Not sure its a good idea to go past 700 mhz,our phones run hot as it is under capacity,as with gaming rigs heat is your Enemy,the cooler you keep it the faster.
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I have used this, NRG also does. I have NEVER had any problems and mine is as high as 787 as long as I'm running it which is constantly.
XITruthiX said:
um... ive been clocked up to 787 highly stable for the last like 2 weeks. No heat problems, no battery problems, just insane speed.
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100% agreed. Been running at the highest speeds with NO problems, no batt drain, no heat probs, nothing.
XERO_Racer said:
wouldnt overclocking also gives you a higher chance of frying your CPU chip? cuz ive seen it happened in PCs i just idk about PPCs
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Not unless you are having excessive heat problems. Since there are basically no people reporting these problems, I wouldn't worry.
miked79928 said:
I agree that there are virtually no ill effects to this. When unlocked, I have my phone running at 787 mhz. While it is locked or sleeping it throttles down to 604 and eventually 528 mhz. I have noticed no extra heat nor extra drain on the battery. Just blazing fast speed! Sense 2.5 is virually not laggy at all! CHT 1.8.5 is so smooth and quick even with the aminations enabled!
If anyone is interested in the automated clocking process, I can help by giving my set-up that is working flawlessly on the ROM in my signature!
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Once again as stated earlier, 100% agreed.

Do I have to keep plugged in?

miked79928 said:
Here is the best way I have found to do it. I take absolutely no credit for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7354283&postcount=627
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I thank you for this, but I'm not sure how to implement it. I have installed Mortscript, I've copied the code into a file I called overclock.mscr and modified the code reflect the reg values on my Tilt 2. and I've placed the script on the root on my SD card. I've installed MSM7kCpuSpeed on to my SD card. How do I make the script run automatically?
Thank you!

I take no responsibility for w/e happens to your phone with this advice.
Try putting a pointer in your start up to the over clocking script. Its highly unstable and could brick your phone or require a hard reset... thats why I do it with a toggle switch, i dont mind manually applying the OC with a hard key knowing its safe, esp because the situations where I actually NEED 787mhz are less common than needing to just wake the phone to answer a call or make a txt message.

I just want to say that I have been running android on my tilt 2 overclocked at around 750 for a few months now with various builds and i know a lot of other users who have as well with no problems, i am going to try this out, thats what i pay for insurance for hehe
..and after reading more i may have spoken too soon because i missed the posts where i saw that you can brick your phone with OC in WinMo easily enough if you are not careful, so tread with caution

dirtypiratehooker said:
I just want to say that I have been running android on my tilt 2 overclocked at around 750 for a few months now with various builds and i know a lot of other users who have as well with no problems, i am going to try this out, thats what i pay for insurance for hehe
..and after reading more i may have spoken too soon because i missed the posts where i saw that you can brick your phone with OC in WinMo easily enough if you are not careful, so tread with caution
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Just a note, I'm not sure the insurance would cover burning a custom ROM into the phone, or overclocking the CPU. And if the chip is fried you can't burn the stock ROM back in. But then, they probably couldn't figure out it was updated without in stalling a new CPU. Umm, it would probably work.

Would a .cab for this ever be conceivable?

At this point, we have finally got a script that will work for most Rhodiums, Topaz (Diamond 2), and a few guys with other phones seem to be having good luck.
The device has to have Mortscript installed, and nettrip's MSM7 v2.
It is a single script solution that requires no pre checks in the registry, no key/button assignment, and you can change the speed settings from the script instead of the registry.
It throttles the OC up and down for calls, lock, and sleep, to avoid freezing on wake up and in a call. Some problems that still need to worked out by nettrip in the script. I don't envy him the work as the script(s) were bad enough. Four of us have hit that original script (by jpc) from about page 13.
You copy the script to the SD or the device root, create a shortcut to the file, copy the shortcut to Windows\Startup directory, reset/reboot the device and you are off.
You can use the MSM7 app to read the OC, but you should make sure to exit the app before sleep, lock, or power off, as it will error on reboot if left open.
To be honest, you never have to open the MSM7 app, as the script controls it in the background.
I believe the script is set for a low over clock. 691. My experience has been a 710 average, but a lot get a stable OC at 750+. I am running 748 and I think I will stop there. A 200MHz overclock will just have to do.The phone does not get hot, though with intense use, it does get warmer. Never warmer than when the battery is charging, tho.
I am running the nrg Sense Reference ROM, 23xxx based on Sense 2.5. I added the CHT 1.8x and the editor to save a few MHz, no biggy.
The overclock allows the Sense to work MUCH smoother, actually noticeable as even the weather animation is smooth.
And all the vid players seem to work better.
I have noticed NO extra battery drain than usual.
The script is only a stop gap measure until nettrip finishes his app, but it does work well with little effort. WAAAAY better now than even last week.
However, use the script at your own risk, as you can get too Medieval on the OC. Some guys are running 800+, more nerve than I have.
Anyway, if interested in the script or want to read some more about the app, you can start here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290&page=89
post #882 has the script.
Plenty of instructions on how to use (and make changes to the settings) in the last 30-40 pages.

Sorry if this is already explained, but can someone tell me in simple details how to keep my overclock at 729mhz even after screen lock or sleep mode? I've tried to follow previous posts but it keeps reverting back to 528mhz after locking and sleep.

Ok so this seems legitamite,everyones checking in with no problems.
other than the increased risk factor that always accompanys speed,
it seems our ppc's cpu was underclocked beforehand ?
i will try this and see if i get a gpu boost as well.
but ivr already experienced my phone overheating to the point
of shutting itself down,and the god-damned orange light is permenantly on...