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Has anyone noticed any long term disadvantages to overclocking the Wizard? Does the battery life permanently decrease? What speeds are you running yours at, and how long have you been doing it? Have you noticed anything at all which indicates it's not good for the hardware?
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i believe that it's safe to overclock the mda...just set it at an acceptable rate (264mhz for me) and make sure not to run the battery all the way down...if you overclock the settings too high the device will freeze and reset (this is a fail safe procedure it goes through), so there is no need to worry...also don't overclock the settings too low as the phone becomes disfunctional when too low (about less than 132mhz for me)...the screen flickers because it's not being refreshed quick enough (my guess)...hope this helps...
I would set it to 240. I have done before, i'm just wondering if it's a bad idea leaving it permanently set to that level?
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yea you should be fine at that speed, but if you want you can overclock it higher if it will let you...just make sure that the phone is stable when using it...like i said in my earlier post my device is oc at 264mhz
Cool, thanks for your replies. How long have you had yours overclocked for? Do you use Smartskey?
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My self i ownly use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.
My self i only use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.
Mine is also set at 264 24/7. Battery still lasts me all day. Been doing it since the oc program was found which I guess has been a couple of months.
Don't forget, you're wizard is only overclocked when it is active (i.e. not in standby mode). When your wizard goes into standby, it automatically goes back to the default 180mhz. Only when you bring it out of standby does it overclock again (assuming you're running it with smartskey with the option of overclocking on wakeup)
i'm using smartkey to constantly run at 264mhz...i have been doing this for a month now...like i said there is not really any problems with the batt unless you run it down totally...there was a post about this in the overclocking thread...the process is set low so that the phone will have a longer batt life...this was also stated in the overclocking thread...theoretically there is more wear if you overclock it since you are making the processor work harder, so use it at your own risk! if you want to be on the safe side then use smartkey and the overclocking prog in the same directory...then use total commander's note pad (while the ini file is highlighted) and change the value lower when you don't want it to constantly run at 264mhz or whatever speed you want to overclock or underclock at...just use it when needed, but i overclock mine constant 264mhz with great results combined with tweaks2k2, registry wizard, and of course the tmobile custom rom ...internet is a blast...just wish i could get it to run like the IE in a pc
anyways hope this helps out a bit further...
activesync
your activesync will hang allot if you overclock, I have noticed this.
DOnt know why.
For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.
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For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.
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hey sonic, where did you get your copy of warcraft 2 for windows mobile ?
I've never heard of warcraft for Windows mobile, how does it run on a 240 MHz overclock?
I got it from the Wargus engine. i can email you the files if need be, i dont want to jeprodize this sites reputation. The game last time i checked was free though...
Actually I'm not sure if it's the overclocking issue or not but ...
For couple of weeks now my Wizard's red led is on all the time, not like it is when your battery is very low but about half of this brightness. I'm not really worried about that, it doesn't change much but it may be connected with overclocking (it was 240 for about a month).
Another thing - once I had sth like 110% speed of every tone played, either a phone call or an incoming message.
It doesn't really matter to me since it's still working fine but it may mean that overclocking isn't that safe as we might think.
TroLoo
PocketHack Master V4 is now out with Tytn support. Be warned that at it's highest setting of 440mhz i had to HARD reset my device.... Must start at a lower speed next time and work my way up!
I'm still in the middle of restoring!!
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PocketHack Master V4 is now out with Tytn support. Be warned that at it's highest setting of 440mhz i had to HARD reset my device.... Must start at a lower speed next time and work my way up!
I'm still in the middle of restoring!!
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have you found a need to overclock the device then...., might works fine for what I use it for
Thanks for pointing this out... I updated the FAQs on the wiki.
It automatically scales the processor voltage onSamsung S3C2440 processors
so does this clock it over 440mhz, because an extra 40mhz doesnt really sound worthy of paying for software, especially when the TyTN is pretty snappy?
So... do you need to stick it in a fridge or anything afterwards?
I think the main idea of using the program is to allow a "super battery saving" mode, by underclocking the device it will use less power....obviously impacting performance-wise but still!
The main reason I wanted PHM was to help render web pages faster. My tytn downloads quicker than the works PC on normal broadband but the pages take longer to 'finalize' the page (i.e.. you can scroll down a page and it's still inserting images). This is a CPU speed issue.
I have finally got to play with PHM and it still needs more work! Just doing a test at tytn's default 400Mhz crashes my phone, never mind higher! I never got much higher than 300Mhz, how strange!!
Hack Master V4 not ready for primetime!
As others have noted, don't waste your time on Hack Master v4. I played with it, only to find it causes crashes, no matter what you do. Also, I found that it caused an incomplete Hard Reset. So, I had to do the manual hard reset twice, to get TYTN working again correctly.
Also, the Wiki should be updated to show there are still problems for anyone wanting to OC the TYTN.
I stupidly tried PHM too, and have just suffered a partial hard reset. Here goes the long and frustrating reinstall...
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I stupidly tried PHM too, and have just suffered a partial hard reset. Here goes the long and frustrating reinstall...
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aren't we allowed to take these people to court? False advertising and damaging my equipment? They must have had enough emails by now and yet the same program is still there advertising the same things, very poor...
We should probably change the title of this thread to say "OVERCLOCKING: DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT..." :idea:
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aren't we allowed to take these people to court? False advertising and damaging my equipment? They must have had enough emails by now and yet the same program is still there advertising the same things, very poor...
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They can get away with it through the fact that they tell you to backup your device before you use the program. Coming from an XDAII where PHM worked perfectly though, I stupidly assumed that the quality of the product would be at least the same or even better after numerous updates.
I'm pretty much set up again now, but I'll certainly be looking at purchasing a backup solution before I put my trust in something like that again.
Don't think about it, even with a backup... While trying to overclock my TyTN smoothly, it's now on the way to service (no more booting at all...)
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Oops ... you should have read this thread before even trying overcloking ...
sorry for ya mate !!!
I find my Jasjam (Hermes) runs very fast and I don't see the point in over clocking it when it runs fast enough normally.
Have XCPU Scaler, in autoscale mode working up to 500mhz, on a cingular 8525 (HERM100), no resets, no problem.
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Also scaled down to 200mhz on the low side for super battery saver.
?Glitch
?Glitch that is amazing not just the speed but the fact that their is no problems!!!!!!!!
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Have XCPU Scaler, in autoscale mode working up to 500mhz, on a cingular 8525 (HERM100), no resets, no problem.
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Also scaled down to 200mhz on the low side for super battery saver.
?Glitch
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you'll be needing one of those new spangly batteries with extra life to cope with a processor increase like that.
@?Glitch: Can you post some screenshots?
That's awesome .. Has anyone else tried this program out? How's it working for you?
I'm using the XCPUScalar with its CPU load based setting.
Normally I set the speed to only 200MHz while on heavy load it speed-up back to 400MHz and 500NHz on very high load.
On day-to-day use it looks like extending the battery life (working on lower clock rate) whiles much quicker route calculation when using the navigation program.
Currently I faced now problem.
Couldn't really see any discussion on this yet, and personally it's in a location on the forum that I rarely visit but I've found an overclock tool that is slowly becoming very good indeed for our processors. Link to thread is here. I'm soo far up from 528Mhz to 748Mhz (been stable for the past 6 hours no problem). Just make sure to follow the thread (instructions are linked to ensure overclock remains applied through scripts and 3rd party apps). Should take no longer than 30mins for a well versed user to set up. Please don't try this if you haven't got a clue what you are doing as there is soo much scope for error and dead phones! You may also need to customise any scripts to your specific phone/software build. CDMA phones as usual are different from what I've heard. But anyway good luck, I'm gonna keep trying to push the Mhz up (aiming for 850Mhz ).
Not sure its a good idea to go past 700 mhz,our phones run hot as it is under capacity,as with gaming rigs heat is your Enemy,the cooler you keep it the faster.
It's actually remained pretty cool, and when it's in my pocket it's only running at stock clocks anyway. Only when I'm using it does it get to the full 748Mhz. Running wifi router and charger and temps are not noticeably hotter than usual...
um... ive been clocked up to 787 highly stable for the last like 2 weeks. No heat problems, no battery problems, just insane speed.
recommendations: Download v1, not v2. ESP if you dont know what you're doing. Then download the zip im attaching, there's 2 mortscripts in there and a registry addition, THESE MUST BE IN THE STORAGE CARD ROOT. use the regisitry addition FIRST (just associate w/e regedit software you use, then run the .reg file in total commander), then go back to total commander, edit the .mscr "Toggle_boost" and adjust the value boost = "x" to whatever value you want the phone to OC at, eg boost = 41 is 787mhz which is stable for me, test yours out.
THEN, open and install rhodiumkbdcontrol (attached), reboot, go to settings>system>keyboard config> add key
1st pick which key you want to be the OC boost swtich, I have it mapped to my PTT button. click the plus sign, drop down menu, run program, then highlight "run program" in the list then click "..." then type in
Program: \windows\mortscript.exe
Arguments: "\storage card\toggle_boost.mscr"
This time you wanna use the power key.
same general instructions except
Program: \windows\mortscript.exe
Arguments: "\storage card\boost_off.mscr"
then plus sign again, drop down menu, default key action, and click extended emulation. THEN hit update config. should work like a charm, also autoover clocks to 610, the boost button with send you up the w/e the boost = "x" is set to, and then back again, most find 710mhz to be the stable point, and feel free to ask questions
sorry, heres the zips
wouldnt overclocking also gives you a higher chance of frying your CPU chip? cuz ive seen it happened in PCs i just idk about PPCs
I agree that there are virtually no ill effects to this. When unlocked, I have my phone running at 787 mhz. While it is locked or sleeping it throttles down to 604 and eventually 528 mhz. I have noticed no extra heat nor extra drain on the battery. Just blazing fast speed! Sense 2.5 is virually not laggy at all! CHT 1.8.5 is so smooth and quick even with the aminations enabled!
If anyone is interested in the automated clocking process, I can help by giving my set-up that is working flawlessly on the ROM in my signature!
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I agree that there are virtually no ill effects to this. When unlocked, I have my phone running at 787 mhz. While it is locked or sleeping it throttles down to 604 and eventually 528 mhz. I have noticed no extra heat nor extra drain on the battery. Just blazing fast speed! Sense 2.5 is virually not laggy at all! CHT 1.8.5 is so smooth and quick even with the aminations enabled!
If anyone is interested in the automated clocking process, I can help by giving my set-up that is working flawlessly on the ROM in my signature!
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Yeah could you hook that up? I think posting it here would be best but pm'ing works just as well
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I just read threw the above links and guides and was wondering if there is a more automated way of setting this up rather than having to link it to a button press. I'm guessing this has not been figured out yet (or the guides would have mention of it ). Just curious.
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Yeah could you hook that up? I think posting it here would be best but pm'ing works just as well
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Here is the best way I have found to do it. I take absolutely no credit for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7354283&postcount=627
Check it!
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Not sure its a good idea to go past 700 mhz,our phones run hot as it is under capacity,as with gaming rigs heat is your Enemy,the cooler you keep it the faster.
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I have used this, NRG also does. I have NEVER had any problems and mine is as high as 787 as long as I'm running it which is constantly.
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um... ive been clocked up to 787 highly stable for the last like 2 weeks. No heat problems, no battery problems, just insane speed.
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100% agreed. Been running at the highest speeds with NO problems, no batt drain, no heat probs, nothing.
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wouldnt overclocking also gives you a higher chance of frying your CPU chip? cuz ive seen it happened in PCs i just idk about PPCs
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Not unless you are having excessive heat problems. Since there are basically no people reporting these problems, I wouldn't worry.
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I agree that there are virtually no ill effects to this. When unlocked, I have my phone running at 787 mhz. While it is locked or sleeping it throttles down to 604 and eventually 528 mhz. I have noticed no extra heat nor extra drain on the battery. Just blazing fast speed! Sense 2.5 is virually not laggy at all! CHT 1.8.5 is so smooth and quick even with the aminations enabled!
If anyone is interested in the automated clocking process, I can help by giving my set-up that is working flawlessly on the ROM in my signature!
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Once again as stated earlier, 100% agreed.
Do I have to keep plugged in?
miked79928 said:
Here is the best way I have found to do it. I take absolutely no credit for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7354283&postcount=627
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I thank you for this, but I'm not sure how to implement it. I have installed Mortscript, I've copied the code into a file I called overclock.mscr and modified the code reflect the reg values on my Tilt 2. and I've placed the script on the root on my SD card. I've installed MSM7kCpuSpeed on to my SD card. How do I make the script run automatically?
Thank you!
I take no responsibility for w/e happens to your phone with this advice.
Try putting a pointer in your start up to the over clocking script. Its highly unstable and could brick your phone or require a hard reset... thats why I do it with a toggle switch, i dont mind manually applying the OC with a hard key knowing its safe, esp because the situations where I actually NEED 787mhz are less common than needing to just wake the phone to answer a call or make a txt message.
I just want to say that I have been running android on my tilt 2 overclocked at around 750 for a few months now with various builds and i know a lot of other users who have as well with no problems, i am going to try this out, thats what i pay for insurance for hehe
..and after reading more i may have spoken too soon because i missed the posts where i saw that you can brick your phone with OC in WinMo easily enough if you are not careful, so tread with caution
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I just want to say that I have been running android on my tilt 2 overclocked at around 750 for a few months now with various builds and i know a lot of other users who have as well with no problems, i am going to try this out, thats what i pay for insurance for hehe
..and after reading more i may have spoken too soon because i missed the posts where i saw that you can brick your phone with OC in WinMo easily enough if you are not careful, so tread with caution
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Just a note, I'm not sure the insurance would cover burning a custom ROM into the phone, or overclocking the CPU. And if the chip is fried you can't burn the stock ROM back in. But then, they probably couldn't figure out it was updated without in stalling a new CPU. Umm, it would probably work.
Would a .cab for this ever be conceivable?
At this point, we have finally got a script that will work for most Rhodiums, Topaz (Diamond 2), and a few guys with other phones seem to be having good luck.
The device has to have Mortscript installed, and nettrip's MSM7 v2.
It is a single script solution that requires no pre checks in the registry, no key/button assignment, and you can change the speed settings from the script instead of the registry.
It throttles the OC up and down for calls, lock, and sleep, to avoid freezing on wake up and in a call. Some problems that still need to worked out by nettrip in the script. I don't envy him the work as the script(s) were bad enough. Four of us have hit that original script (by jpc) from about page 13.
You copy the script to the SD or the device root, create a shortcut to the file, copy the shortcut to Windows\Startup directory, reset/reboot the device and you are off.
You can use the MSM7 app to read the OC, but you should make sure to exit the app before sleep, lock, or power off, as it will error on reboot if left open.
To be honest, you never have to open the MSM7 app, as the script controls it in the background.
I believe the script is set for a low over clock. 691. My experience has been a 710 average, but a lot get a stable OC at 750+. I am running 748 and I think I will stop there. A 200MHz overclock will just have to do.The phone does not get hot, though with intense use, it does get warmer. Never warmer than when the battery is charging, tho.
I am running the nrg Sense Reference ROM, 23xxx based on Sense 2.5. I added the CHT 1.8x and the editor to save a few MHz, no biggy.
The overclock allows the Sense to work MUCH smoother, actually noticeable as even the weather animation is smooth.
And all the vid players seem to work better.
I have noticed NO extra battery drain than usual.
The script is only a stop gap measure until nettrip finishes his app, but it does work well with little effort. WAAAAY better now than even last week.
However, use the script at your own risk, as you can get too Medieval on the OC. Some guys are running 800+, more nerve than I have.
Anyway, if interested in the script or want to read some more about the app, you can start here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290&page=89
post #882 has the script.
Plenty of instructions on how to use (and make changes to the settings) in the last 30-40 pages.
Sorry if this is already explained, but can someone tell me in simple details how to keep my overclock at 729mhz even after screen lock or sleep mode? I've tried to follow previous posts but it keeps reverting back to 528mhz after locking and sleep.
Ok so this seems legitamite,everyones checking in with no problems.
other than the increased risk factor that always accompanys speed,
it seems our ppc's cpu was underclocked beforehand ?
i will try this and see if i get a gpu boost as well.
but ivr already experienced my phone overheating to the point
of shutting itself down,and the god-damned orange light is permenantly on...
this may be posted in the wrong section but i would like everyone running froyo to test this out
HERE IS THE LINK TO GET THE LATEST SETCPU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
So I have been doing some experiments on ways to save battery life....I think i have made a break through it is not fully tested i would like for some of you to try it out.
with the latest updates to your ROM itself, setcpu, superuser, and the addition of cache cleaner and the incredible AUTOKILLER (a must have) i have been able to run extremely low setcpu sleep profiles without any noticeable loss of performance.
Believe it or not i have my sleep profile down clocked to 19200mhz with out "noticeable" performance loss
i would like for some of you if possible to try these profile out for a while and see how it works out for you
DEFAULT 480min---whatever you want max (mine is 787) ondemand (for performance)
OR DEFAULT 245min---whatever max (for even more battery savings)
SLEEP 192min---480max ondemand (works great even without sleep to wake lag)
it works dont believe me then check out set cpus new feature "time in state"
open setcpu
go over to info
scroll down a little and you will see the times in state your phones cpu runs in the most
you should now see values at the lowest state of 19200
if this works in theory we can benefit from longer battery life
and faster charging
please try these out and report back to the post or PM me...this could be good
Thanks
UPDATE 8/22 EDIT: some users are having success running an even lower default 19min--whatever max (thats even more savings) will be looking into it
try these even lower profiles
DEFAULT 122min--whatever max (screen ON cpu does not drop below 122mhz)
Screen OFF 19min--245max (no lag just ran pandora and cardio trainer at the same time here no lag from sleep to wake either)
or Screen Off 19min--480 max for more performance
REMEMBER not to have conflicting profiles and to have SCREEN OFF at your highest priority
please post here your own findings and results
Thanks again
UPDATE 08/24/2010
after experimenting with other speeds i have finally settled on these speeds for my personal taste on performance and battery savings
MY FINAL SETTINGS...
DEFAULT 19MIN---786 or whatever MAX on demand
SCREEN OFF 19MIN---480 MAX on demand (highest priority) think deeply about why this is the highest
TEMP <40 19MIN---528MAX (screen off overrides this which cools anyway)
BATT <40 19MIN---604MAX
next more into advanced settings....coming soon
UPDATE 08/26/2010
im almost at the holy grail here
try this set up
SCREEN OFF 19--480 (95 priority)
TEMP <40 19--580 (90 priority)
ADVANCED SETTINGS
SAMPLING RATE---100000
UP THRESHOLD---98
ignore nice ---0
power save bias---0
hit apply (if you like it check set at boot)
ALL CPUS ARE NOT CREATED EQUALLY WE ALL KNOW THIS SO DONT EXPECT MY EXACT SETTING TO WORK FOR EVERY SINGLE PHONE
I CAN ONLY OFFER A STARTING POINT BUT ITS UP TO YOU TO TWEAK IT BUT ITS WORK
I HOPE THIS HELPS
things to notice....
in the main screen in setcpu watch the main frequency values bounce up and down...after a few seconds the values seem to stabilize at the lowest frequency of 19
in time of state screen even when screen on most of the time the 19 freq get the most values
i need a few guys to run, test and monitor the values that i just posted ^^^HERE^^^
this may further the battery life once we stabilize the frequency to 19 most of the time while keep the SAME performance which i think i may have did
run some linpacks and quadrants with those setting
i got
5.4 linpack running 787max
431 quad running 787max
then it drops back to 19 and stabilizes
hope this works and please post all your feed back and setting so we can learn this and get it perfect
thanks
I even use 122 and 480 for my screen off profile.. And I don't have any lag at all.
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I even use 122 and 480 for my screen off profile.. And I don't have any lag at all.
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19 is even lower try it
Oh 19200? Wow I wasn't paying attention well enough. I'll try it.
Almost from the beginning of my rooting in May and using SetCPU, I've been using 19.2- 748.8 (on demand) with the screen on (sometimes higher but recently reduced the max to see if it helped with some FC's I was having - still haven't determined if it was the profile or the ROM that fixed my FC's).
I use 19.2-245 for screen off. I'd venture that there's about a one second delay for the caller ID to work once a call rings in, but it's more than bearable and worth it.
I have it go to 19.2-528 when the battery is less than 25%,and 19.2-480 if the temperature is above 49 degrees celcius.
I wonder what it's like when receiving a call. I just set it and I'm not having any lag with just turning it on or anything. I'll test it out with other things. I hope this greatly improves my battery.
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Almost from the beginning of my rooting in May and using SetCPU, I've been using 19.2- 748.8 (on demand) with the screen on (sometimes higher but recently reduced the max to see if it helped with some FC's I was having - still haven't determined if it was the profile or the ROM that fixed my FC's).
I use 19.2-245 for screen off. I'd venture that there's about a one second delay for the caller ID to work once a call rings in, but it's more than bearable and worth it.
I have it go to 19.2-528 when the battery is less than 25%,and 19.2-480 if the temperature is above 49 degrees celcius.
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shame on you for keeping that secret all to yourself
SHAME
By the way why did you say froyo roms specifically? I'm trying this on tainted tenzo and it's working. I'm usually on a frooy ROM though.
Hi Guys,
Can you please tell me how to get setcpu? I can't find it in the market.
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Search for it on his website, idk what his website is you'll have to search for it. Or download a ROM with it already in it.
im on froyo 30 and was unable to get the 19.2 to show on time in state with screen off profile set to 100 priority at 245/19.2
i was however able to have it start using that frequency by using 710/19.2 as my default setting, then enabling the 245/19.2 profile as screen off.
ive read its not too good to have the cpu jump more than 300mhz per profile though so im not sure how this will work out.
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By the way why did you say froyo roms specifically? I'm trying this on tainted tenzo and it's working. I'm usually on a frooy ROM though.
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hmm last time i was on sense rom sense fell apart if you clocked lower than 245
epically receiving a phone call
but i only test this method on froyo
I've heard that too. Although I don't know what is bad about it.
sh_mohanna said:
Hi Guys,
Can you please tell me how to get setcpu? I can't find it in the market.
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HERE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
eklipze said:
im on froyo 30 and was unable to get the 19.2 to show on time in state with screen off profile set to 100 priority at 245/19.2
i was however able to have it start using that frequency by using 710/19.2 as my default setting, then enabling the 245/19.2 profile as screen off.
ive read its not too good to have the cpu jump more than 300mhz per profile though so im not sure how this will work out.
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i heard that too but all froyo dev have a 245 to 710 stock on their roms
thats why i kinda spilt the two profiles and why 245min--- is experimental
leave your screen off for a while and see if the ime of state shows up
also make sure not to have conflicting profiles running in setcpu
Hmm. Well tainted is vanilla but has some sense elements (like sense dialer) So idk. It seems to work. I'll test out calls.
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Hmm. Well tainted is vanilla but has some sense elements (like sense dialer) So idk. It seems to work. I'll test out calls.
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oh ok tainted is not vanilla
tainted IS sense with sense removed with vanilla remaning hence the word tainted
some sense is still there
i think
Yeah it's got sense contacts and stuff but vanilla messaging. But it has the sense dialer so I think it would also have lag with calls if the sense ones were having lag. And I just tested it and it took a lil while for it to recognize whose number it was but it still gave me plenty of time to answer the call. I'll be testing to see how it improves battery. Thanks for the find
Im also testing setcpu Advanced settings batery life (without performance loss)
What settings are those?
Sorry, not sure if this is int he right section but from the 1000+ hours i have used on this forum i decided to create my own post. Battery life on Android seems to be the evil culprit of MANY, i have finally found the BEST combo for battery life.
I have tried about 90% of the radios and android builds out there and this by far is the BEST. FIRST i wanna thank ALL developers, mods, beta testers and commenter's because without you all, this would not be possible(Android on the HD2)
My CURRENT setup(which i will probably leave on forever since its set now)
US Tmobile HD2
- Radio 2.12 (the latest one)
-Rom: Elegencia Rom (GTX version) --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651729 So i dont get the robot voice anymore
- Android Rom ---> ▐HYBRID▐07.09.2010▐warrenb213 CM6 9/6-V1.5a T-Mo US Optimized▐ Kernel:mitchyprima r10▐ RMNET version http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775150
- Special Settings in Windows Mobile: Turn off Auto backlight in windows mobile, turned of sync, weather, facebook, all that stuff that may secretly be on by default in windows mobile.
- Special settings in Android: Note: i turned OFF Auto sync for GMAIL email( since the FREE app called K-9 mail has MUCH better push email which uses much less battery than gmail's auto sync), no gps(sometimes wireless network location is used), no facebook sync, weather or news sync. You can set to whatever set cpu settings or sync settings you prefer, im just letting you know my configuration, the main thing to FOCUS on is the RADIO, the ROM(s) the Set cpu SCREEN off settings and the task killer settings.
1. Installed Set Cpu (Free to download on xda but i paid for the donate version to support the dev)
2. Set Cpu settings are in the PHOTO BELOW but as a recap
a. Click Autodetect
b. On MAIN tab, i set the max processor speed to about 652800 and the min to 245000, CONSERVATIVE SCALING, click SET ON BOOT
c. on PROFILES TAB, I added THREE profiles bt only ONE is necessary to get better battery life: SCREEN OFF profile, 384 max and 245 min, priority 100! POWERSAVE scaling
d. click on advanced tab, all the settings should be default, mines are
Sampling rate 200000, Upthreshold 80, down thresh 20, Ignore Nice load 0 and Freq Step 5, click APPLY and SET ON BOOT.
I also installed advanced task killer, not sure if it helps but my battery has been great since. Settings on there:
AUTO START checked, Show notification checked, Auto Kill Level: SAFE, AutoKill frequency when SCREEN OFF, Security level HIGH. OF COURSE you will have to put various apps on IGNORE so task killer doesnt kill them when the screen is off, so far i have ignored: App Brain, Advanced Task Killer(MAKE SURE TO PUT THIS ON IGNORE OR ELSE IT WONT WORK BECAUSE IT WILL KILL ITSELF lol), SetCPU, SUPERUSER, Google search, ad free, k9 mail and battery indicator pro.
All on ignore so they dont get killed, and i noticed ALOT of people use task killer but forget to put superuser, setcpu and advanced task killer on the ignore list so they may be getting closed out sometimes, which will make them ineffective for you.
Im in Chicago, my data has got up to about 1.5mb down with this rom, FASTEST speed i got yet! As you can see from the picture, I took my phone Off the wall charger around NOON YESTERDAY, it was on 100%, played word feud all day basically, browsed the web and tweeted, couldn't do much since i worked a 12hours shift but by 10pm when i left the office, i STILL had 88% battery left, used the device more when i got off, played angry birds, texted, tweeted, talked to a few people, fell asleep without charging and got scared that it would be dead, but i wake up at 9am...... STILL 68% i played more games, texted and tweeted, now im at 63% and its going on NOON again, so 24hrs decent amount of phone use and im at 63%, thats CRAZY!
My data is on H and 3g, DOES not turn off when the screen is off, i still get my WordFeud push notifications and K9 mail email PUSH when i get new ones(that also helped ALOT when i turned off the gmail push, and downloaded K9 mail, its FREE, has integrated inbox and is the BEST email app out there that ses the LEAST battery to have TRUE push notifications when people send an email to me.
Hope this helps you all, Give my combo a try, let me know your results, but so far this battery has lasted a full 24 hours and is not even HALF dead with moderate use.
side mentions:
NO BSOD
NO FREEZES
FAST DATA
WIFI TETHER WORKS
USB DATA WORKS
CAMERA WORKS
Every damn thing works lol thats what im trying to say. even if it has minor bugs which i have not seen yet, this setup and speed with battery life is the BEST, i dont even wanna risk something going wrong so i may leave this as my PERMANENT configuration.
*Edit* before you post saying the speed is slow, TRY IT OUT, Try the android ROM i posted with the set cpu settings i posted, and you will SEE for yourself* I tried the same settings on other android roms but they were just not good since battery was bad and data speed was bad so try that SPECIFIC ROM, see how you like it.
Thanks for the detailed info hakeem, I'm in Chicago too so I can use your exact configuration which is awesome.
Are you using PPP or RMNET build?
Which version of Miri rom? GTX/Max/CHT? Did you see Miri released a new Android launch Rom, here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778398. Wonder if that would give similar results with a quicker launch and more memory?
well considering you set the cpu to 1/2 what it's capable of, I'm not surprised you're getting longer battery life. At 600 mhz it runs like my Nokia N97; very poorly.
I've tried those settings before (minus the 600 mhz max) and they don't really give me much, if any real savings. I still get about 4 hours of heavy use or 8 hours of moderate. Not great but manageable.
I use Shubcraft 1.5 with 31 aug zImage on chuckydroid rom. It's the only setup that actually works for me. Data is intermittently flaky but it gets me 2000-3000++ kbps.
The only thing I would like to really have fixed is the G sensor and slightly more reliable data.
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well considering you set the cpu to 1/2 what it's capable of, I'm not surprised you're getting longer battery life. At 600 mhz it runs like my Nokia N97; very poorly.
I've tried those settings before (minus the 600 mhz max) and they don't really give me much, if any real savings. I still get about 4 hours of heavy use or 8 hours of moderate. Not great but manageable.
I use Shubcraft 1.5 with 31 aug zImage on chuckydroid rom. It's the only setup that actually works for me. Data is intermittently flaky but it gets me 2000-3000++ kbps.
The only thing I would like to really have fixed is the G sensor and slightly more reliable data.
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Try HyperDroid, Pongster just updated it. It's very similar to Shubcraft but I have the Gsensor on (and using it frequently) without a single screen freeze. Data has been solid and quick. I didn't like the Hi-res small image/text look that was built in but it was an easy fix to get that back to normal size, now the build looks and runs perfect.
Personally I like Sense, mainly for the email and agenda widgets, but the stock froyo builds are a lot more stable so I think I'm gonna stick with it for now.
"Sorry, not sure if this is int he right section but".....then why did you post it here instead of general section but thats your choice , second i would rather deal with a screen freeze here or there , than turn off auto sync and third that is really slowing your phone down with those setcpu settings , i agree with ounkeo thats half the phone speed...
but thanks any way
Thank you! I will follow your suggestion and feedback later.
Hey Im Chicago too!!! Well the burbs actually...
I solved my wake up issues by using setcpu and setting a profile for screen off 798 max 499 min scalingn demand and priority to 100
I know it high but from what I remember with the G1 and setcpu if you underclocked it it would freeze up. So thats what Im assuming with this as well. If its underclocked it will become non responsive eventually. I could be wrong but it my persoanl opinion and preference.
Well, you got lucky with 3-10ma on standby, so your battery doesn't suck. Try few reboots and come back with the same numbers - GL on that.
So far I've tried every trick to get the magic 3-10ma on standby, and sometimes I get it, sometimes i don't. Simple reboot screws it up, and when it goes up to ~60, goodbye every-day use of android
why bother ?
Might as well get a crap monochrome nokia then youll get 5+ days of battery life.
all you guys are doing is turning a smart phone into a dumb phone.
Do you have any issues with the internet on this setup?It seems on my set up the data indicator alternates between h and 3g all the time and can use any internet radio apps since it interrupts every few minutes.Also call quality would like to be a little louder.I have the stock radio 2.10.50.26,chuck rom lite for android and the latest 2.2 froyo stone 1.7.
Can anybody tell me what changes should i make ????
kardas666 said:
Well, you got lucky with 3-10ma on standby, so your battery doesn't suck. Try few reboots and come back with the same numbers - GL on that.
So far I've tried every trick to get the magic 3-10ma on standby, and sometimes I get it, sometimes i don't. Simple reboot screws it up, and when it goes up to ~60, goodbye every-day use of android
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I am using shubcrafts 1.5 rmnet I get between 3-10ma while sleep. I wont except anything else. If i get the dreaded 40-60ma's I reset and I dont restart one its in the groove.
I noticed when I had the engadget widget going I would see 41ma in sleep mode.
I dont use auto sync because I can sync when I'm good and ready. I also dont turn off 3g anymore It isnt needed.
As far as the op's settings I think they are ok for him, I constantly clock my cpu at 768 as I have found it is responsive enough for me. I also use ondemand with a powersave bias of 500.
Hakeem5 said:
I also installed advanced task killer, not sure if it helps but my battery has been great since. Settings on there:
AUTO START checked, Show notification checked, Auto Kill Level: SAFE, AutoKill frequency when SCREEN OFF, Security level HIGH. OF COURSE you will have to put various apps on IGNORE so task killer doesnt kill them when the screen is off, so far i have ignored: App Brain, Advanced Task Killer(MAKE SURE TO PUT THIS ON IGNORE OR ELSE IT WONT WORK BECAUSE IT WILL KILL ITSELF lol), SetCPU, SUPERUSER, Google search, ad free, k9 mail and battery indicator pro.
All on ignore so they dont get killed, and i noticed ALOT of people use task killer but forget to put superuser, setcpu and advanced task killer on the ignore list so they may be getting closed out sometimes, which will make them ineffective for you.
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Would someone please tell me how the f**k I could put apps o IGNORE?
the other battery thread found that having your keypad lights on before you boot into android and your sd card also impact heavily on your battery life.
vysus said:
Would someone please tell me how the f**k I could put apps o IGNORE?
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when in the task killer app just hold down on the selected app to bring up menu
Thanx my friend
Good effort posting your findings, I'm sure it will help a lot of people...
I've played with SetCPU for a while trying a few things and found this setup to be the best for me:
I use the undervolted kernel from here.
I use SetCPU as follows:
Main Page
Max: 1113600
Min: 245000
Scaling: Interactive
Set on boot enabled
Profiles
Enable and Notifications checked
Screen off
max: 245000
min: 245000
scaling: interactive
Priority: 100
Charging/Full
max: 111300
min: 245000
scaling: interactive
Priority: 50
Battery < 25%
max: 652000
min: 245000
scaling: interactive
Priority: 50
Advanced tab
Min Sample Rate: 50000
I also have Autokiller installed with moderate settings. Remove all other task killer apps, including Advanced Task Killer...more info why HERE.
I use APNdroid to disable data connection when I'm not using it. But have wifi on all day.
kardas666 said:
Well, you got lucky with 3-10ma on standby, so your battery doesn't suck. Try few reboots and come back with the same numbers - GL on that.
So far I've tried every trick to get the magic 3-10ma on standby, and sometimes I get it, sometimes i don't. Simple reboot screws it up, and when it goes up to ~60, goodbye every-day use of android
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I can confirm that having the keypad lights ON when starting up Android from WinMo does definitely keep standby at 3-10ma. The other thing you need to do to keep that level of drain is to switch off GPS unless you're using it.
My speculation tells me that there must be something wrong/missing with the gps and keypad light libraries after the dev's modified it to work on the HD2.
Oh yeah and this is on Darkstone's HD2Froyo v2.1
Hakeem5 said:
- Special settings in Android: Note: i turned OFF Auto sync, no gps, no facebook sync, weather or news sync.
1. Installed Set Cpu (Free to download on xda but i paid for the donate version to support the dev)
2. Set Cpu settings are in the PHOTO BELOW but as a recap
a. Click Autodetect
b. On MAIN tab, i set the max . . . .
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nice try but with that "configuration" it would be better if i go back and use my
nokia of 4 years ago. thats no smartphone
Hakeem5 said:
Hakeem5 said:
- Special Settings in Windows Mobile: Turn off Auto backlight in windows mobile, turned of sync, weather, facebook, all that stuff that may secretly be on by default in windows mobile.
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thats a better idea, this worked for me thanks for sharing us your discovery
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kardas666 said:
Well, you got lucky with 3-10ma on standby, so your battery doesn't suck. Try few reboots and come back with the same numbers - GL on that.
So far I've tried every trick to get the magic 3-10ma on standby, and sometimes I get it, sometimes i don't. Simple reboot screws it up, and when it goes up to ~60, goodbye every-day use of android
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hey bud, i was having the same issue as you. However, i'm pleased to say that doing the following has given me a 3-10ma standby over the course of a week with multiple reboots (just to check if it would work again). I pulled this from the "possible solution for heavy battery drain thread"
"If you start Android don't use WM at all, use auto-boot on 6 sec with Exceller Multiple Build Loader for Android/Ubuntu if you want to use windows, use it but reboot the phone before you start android."
I'm using this with an Energy Rom, 2.10 radio, and warrenb213's t-mobile us optimized build. Works a treat, hope you have the same experience
Ps... Doesn't matter if setcpu is enabled or not, I still get 3-10ma on standby, remember if you have autosync enabled you will occasionally get a spike while the phone syncs.
hazard99 said:
I am using shubcrafts 1.5 rmnet I get between 3-10ma while sleep. I wont except anything else. If i get the dreaded 40-60ma's I reset and I dont restart one its in the groove.
I noticed when I had the engadget widget going I would see 41ma in sleep mode.
I dont use auto sync because I can sync when I'm good and ready. I also dont turn off 3g anymore It isnt needed.
As far as the op's settings I think they are ok for him, I constantly clock my cpu at 768 as I have found it is responsive enough for me. I also use ondemand with a powersave bias of 500.
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How can you see your power consumption in ma?