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overclocking now available!!

PocketHack Master V4 is now out with Tytn support. Be warned that at it's highest setting of 440mhz i had to HARD reset my device.... Must start at a lower speed next time and work my way up!
I'm still in the middle of restoring!!

johnk1973 said:
PocketHack Master V4 is now out with Tytn support. Be warned that at it's highest setting of 440mhz i had to HARD reset my device.... Must start at a lower speed next time and work my way up!
I'm still in the middle of restoring!!
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have you found a need to overclock the device then...., might works fine for what I use it for

Thanks for pointing this out... I updated the FAQs on the wiki.
It automatically scales the processor voltage onSamsung S3C2440 processors

so does this clock it over 440mhz, because an extra 40mhz doesnt really sound worthy of paying for software, especially when the TyTN is pretty snappy?

So... do you need to stick it in a fridge or anything afterwards?

I think the main idea of using the program is to allow a "super battery saving" mode, by underclocking the device it will use less power....obviously impacting performance-wise but still!

The main reason I wanted PHM was to help render web pages faster. My tytn downloads quicker than the works PC on normal broadband but the pages take longer to 'finalize' the page (i.e.. you can scroll down a page and it's still inserting images). This is a CPU speed issue.
I have finally got to play with PHM and it still needs more work! Just doing a test at tytn's default 400Mhz crashes my phone, never mind higher! I never got much higher than 300Mhz, how strange!!

Hack Master V4 not ready for primetime!
As others have noted, don't waste your time on Hack Master v4. I played with it, only to find it causes crashes, no matter what you do. Also, I found that it caused an incomplete Hard Reset. So, I had to do the manual hard reset twice, to get TYTN working again correctly.
Also, the Wiki should be updated to show there are still problems for anyone wanting to OC the TYTN.

I stupidly tried PHM too, and have just suffered a partial hard reset. Here goes the long and frustrating reinstall...

grayhaze said:
I stupidly tried PHM too, and have just suffered a partial hard reset. Here goes the long and frustrating reinstall...
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aren't we allowed to take these people to court? False advertising and damaging my equipment? They must have had enough emails by now and yet the same program is still there advertising the same things, very poor...

We should probably change the title of this thread to say "OVERCLOCKING: DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT..." :idea:

johnk1973 said:
aren't we allowed to take these people to court? False advertising and damaging my equipment? They must have had enough emails by now and yet the same program is still there advertising the same things, very poor...
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They can get away with it through the fact that they tell you to backup your device before you use the program. Coming from an XDAII where PHM worked perfectly though, I stupidly assumed that the quality of the product would be at least the same or even better after numerous updates.
I'm pretty much set up again now, but I'll certainly be looking at purchasing a backup solution before I put my trust in something like that again.

Don't think about it, even with a backup... While trying to overclock my TyTN smoothly, it's now on the way to service (no more booting at all...)
Gx

Oops ... you should have read this thread before even trying overcloking ...
sorry for ya mate !!!

I find my Jasjam (Hermes) runs very fast and I don't see the point in over clocking it when it runs fast enough normally.

Have XCPU Scaler, in autoscale mode working up to 500mhz, on a cingular 8525 (HERM100), no resets, no problem.
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Also scaled down to 200mhz on the low side for super battery saver.
?Glitch

?Glitch that is amazing not just the speed but the fact that their is no problems!!!!!!!!

?Glitch said:
Have XCPU Scaler, in autoscale mode working up to 500mhz, on a cingular 8525 (HERM100), no resets, no problem.
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Also scaled down to 200mhz on the low side for super battery saver.
?Glitch
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you'll be needing one of those new spangly batteries with extra life to cope with a processor increase like that.

@?Glitch: Can you post some screenshots?
That's awesome .. Has anyone else tried this program out? How's it working for you?

I'm using the XCPUScalar with its CPU load based setting.
Normally I set the speed to only 200MHz while on heavy load it speed-up back to 400MHz and 500NHz on very high load.
On day-to-day use it looks like extending the battery life (working on lower clock rate) whiles much quicker route calculation when using the navigation program.
Currently I faced now problem.

XCPUScalar 2007 To Overclock Wizard

Anyone tried this program? I am using OmapClockPlus now but I like the idea of using different speeds depending on the load to save battery. Especially the underclocking while idle.
Was thinking of trying Pocket Hack Master but it seemed to freeze up the wizard requiring a hard reset.
This program even lists the Wizard/K-Jam/Qtek 9100 in the list of devices it works with.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7325

I have just tried this program and it works - good find. Cannot try autoscale because it is disabled in trial version. Someone needs to pay $15 and report back
cab attached

So does this automatically adjust the clock speed depending on the wizards state then? i.e does it slow the clock speed down when it goes idle then speed it up again on resuming?

Does not omapscaler do that already? [autoscale on load]

Dmon said:
Anyone tried this program? I am using OmapClockPlus now but I like the idea of using different speeds depending on the load to save battery. Especially the underclocking while idle.
Was thinking of trying Pocket Hack Master but it seemed to freeze up the wizard requiring a hard reset.
This program even lists the Wizard/K-Jam/Qtek 9100 in the list of devices it works with.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7325
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i was using this for a few hours, but had issues with it soft resetting itself... i think maybe it was the scaling function cause it seemed to do it when only sometimes when switching speeds..

faria said:
Does not omapscaler do that already? [autoscale on load]
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Hi faria - omapscaler does do this but at the moment is too unstable and buggy to use long term. Interesting to see if xcpuscalar is stable or not.

shogunmark said:
i was using this for a few hours, but had issues with it soft resetting itself... i think maybe it was the scaling function cause it seemed to do it when only sometimes when switching speeds..
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Have you purchased xcpuscalar 2007 then? shame if its is unstable.
mb5049 - yes this is what it does - cpu speed varies on load.
xcpuscalar has a max speed of 260mhz - which is a shame.

faria said:
Does not omapscaler do that already? [autoscale on load]
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True, but it only goes from Default to your own setting. The scaling works so you can have a lower clockspeed, as low as 100 MHz while idle, and only as high as it has to be with heavier load. This ought to save a lot of battery.
But if you want it to clock at eg. 240 MHz all the time and default while idle OmapClockPlus would be your choice. I'm really happy with the program but I'm not so happy with the battery usage and am trying to find a way to extend it.

warrenty
i have tmobile u.s mda. will it work with it? will it void my warrenty? thnx.

In the forum at Immiersoft.com there are quite a few K-jam owners reporting unstability. The issue seems to have been brought to their attention so hopefully they will soon release a stable update.

Dmon said:
In the forum at Immiersoft.com there are quite a few K-jam owners reporting unstability. The issue seems to have been brought to their attention so hopefully they will soon release a stable update.
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It may not be the software but the processor that is causing the instability. It may not like its speed being varied so often. Omapscalar is unstable too - maybe this is why.

you mean this is payware? ha ha ha... i had no idea...
here is the story... someone sent me the retail zip, had an exe, a readme, an install, and a cab.. so i wasnt near my computer, downloaded to my phone, used the pokcet zip and installed the cab... nowhere did it say anything about registration... nor does it now...

I read on another forum that people who are experiencing lockups to try changing the power setting to "turbo" or "max performance."
It should stop the lockups, I suppose.
Reply back to see if that solves the issue. If it does, then I'm gonna try it out.

Sent my wizard into a endless reset loop. Brought me back to my Treo650 days. I'm going back to omap which has been working fine so far.

JWM_Jankowitz said:
All,
Find below the retail version... Enjoy
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Dont be an asshole and post software. The guy wrote the program and if he wants to charge he can - if you want ot use it THEN PAY!!!!! I bought it - it didnt work (resets) he was happy to refund my money.
I have reported your dumb ass to the board admins

oo3 said:
I read on another forum that people who are experiencing lockups to try changing the power setting to "turbo" or "max performance."
It should stop the lockups, I suppose.
Reply back to see if that solves the issue. If it does, then I'm gonna try it out.
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the wizard does not have power settings like that, that is for the dell axim's, its in the readme file

I have been using it for about a week now and it's totally stable. I have set my KJAM to autoscale from 195 to 247. Smooth as silk.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278193

Bratag said:
Dont be an asshole and post software. The guy wrote the program and if he wants to charge he can - if you want ot use it THEN PAY!!!!! I bought it - it didnt work (resets) he was happy to refund my money.
I have reported your dumb ass to the board admins
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Thanks for the heads-up; deleted.

JNGold said:
I have been using it for about a week now and it's totally stable. I have set my KJAM to autoscale from 195 to 247. Smooth as silk.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278193
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Glad to see it works for you - unfortunately I was unable to get it to be stable even at 234. It did seem to scale correctly when it was workign though. I hope the author can sort out the issues.

Then, it seems I won't review this version either - I've sent the developer a mail to ask for a reviewable version if it's already bug-free. I'll wait, it seems

annoying battery meter

does anyone else experience where their battery meter only decreases by 10%... at first i thought it was battery status.. it would go from 100%-90%-80% etc, so i opened the actual battery meter that is built and it does the same thing.. what i wouldnt give to see my battery meter go 100%-99%-98% etc... maybe im just to anal

I thought I was the only one!
I just got my 8525 yesterday - upgraded from the 8125. I noticed the battery meter "issue" also and it has been driving me nuts. I googled a little and couldn't find any information. I have reinstalled the Resco today plug 3 or 4 times thinking it was the problem.
Is there any fix? A registry hack? I hate 10% increments - would prefer 1% like my 8125 use to be. Can anyone help?

Atken said:
I thought I was the only one!
I just got my 8525 yesterday - upgraded from the 8125. I noticed the battery meter "issue" also and it has been driving me nuts. I googled a little and couldn't find any information. I have reinstalled the Resco today plug 3 or 4 times thinking it was the problem.
Is there any fix? A registry hack? I hate 10% increments - would prefer 1% like my 8125 use to be. Can anyone help?
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i hope there is a fix somewhere...

Atken said:
I thought I was the only one!
I just got my 8525 yesterday - upgraded from the 8125. I noticed the battery meter "issue" also and it has been driving me nuts. I googled a little and couldn't find any information. I have reinstalled the Resco today plug 3 or 4 times thinking it was the problem.
Is there any fix? A registry hack? I hate 10% increments - would prefer 1% like my 8125 use to be. Can anyone help?
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Your not the only one, and somewhere I have seen other posts on this so it's just standard. I have also tried other meters but they all seem to draw on the same battery info, i.e. the 10% at a time. I suppose it's not a critical matter unless your on your last 10% in which case it can suddenly become critical.
I haven't seen a solution but I would like to be proved wrong!
Mike

Dang, I have the same issue. I was hoping there was already a fix for it.
I keep thinking the 8125 did this as well at some point.
Either way, we definitely need a fix for this 10% decrement crap.

This maybe a dumb question.... When a device reports in such small incriments of 1% lets say.. Does'nt that sorta require more CPU power in the long run?? Better for the device not to report so much right ?? 10% left means hmm I should get to a charger in about 30mins..

mrderby said:
This maybe a dumb question.... When a device reports in such small incriments of 1% lets say.. Does'nt that sorta require more CPU power in the long run?? Better for the device not to report so much right ?? 10% left means hmm I should get to a charger in about 30mins..
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Not dumb, very sensible in fact, just not very satisfying for us obsessive compulsives
Mike

i guess i will admit i must be obsessive compulsive... cause this shouldnt bother me as long as its halfway accurate.. but it does.. i think what bothers me is that you see it sit at 100% for a long time, then all of sudden you look and its 90%... just bothers the fk out of me..
Now that my therapy session is over...
Now here is a good question... does this happen the same way on the stock TyTn's and hermes? or is this just a cingular 8525 thing?

Happens the same on ALL Hermes devices, sadly...

This is the way the driver gives the battery status to WM. The only fix would be a new driver from HTC.
I think that this is a minor problem in a device almost perfect (in my opinion)

i wonder if its possible to steal the driver from the wizard.... hmmmm... unfortunately i wont get time to dig and see until this weekend

I have the same problem and I find it really annoying.

shogunmark said:
does anyone else experience where their battery meter only decreases by 10%... at first i thought it was battery status.. it would go from 100%-90%-80% etc, so i opened the actual battery meter that is built and it does the same thing.. what i wouldnt give to see my battery meter go 100%-99%-98% etc... maybe im just to anal
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sorry di not see you message before in msn,
here is the file you need from the wizard 3.2
remove the ZIP extencion
put into the window folder.better yet make a cab file ,make sure is set to hard path.
dont know if i will work......it also depends of the inbuild battery poolling timer. most problably found in the registry.

faria said:
sorry di not see you message before in msn,
here is the file you need from the wizard 3.2
remove the ZIP extencion
put into the window folder.better yet make a cab file ,make sure is set to hard path.
dont know if i will work......it also depends of the inbuild battery poolling timer. most problably found in the registry.
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thanks faria, you are still my hero.. i will try to give that a shot tonight if i have time, i have to work till 11pm tonight then back in to work at 8am(not to mention the hour drive time to and from .... i did find the battery polling timer in the reg earlier today and its set to 5000.. if someone has the time and the know how they are more than welcome to take a crack at this...

FYI just a regular copy/paste of that file cause the battery meter not work, lol... will maybe try a cab later

shogunmark said:
thanks faria, you are still my hero.. i will try to give that a shot tonight if i have time, i have to work till 11pm tonight then back in to work at 8am(not to mention the hour drive time to and from .... i did find the battery polling timer in the reg earlier today and its set to 5000.. if someone has the time and the know how they are more than welcome to take a crack at this...
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also look for the references of the %
most problably all you need to do what u want to achive can be done in the registry.

faria said:
also look for the references of the %
most problably all you need to do what u want to achive can be done in the registry.
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i looked and looked last night... even tried a few things... but still had nothing.. if i sent you a reg dump would you be willing to check it out and see if you can come up with something?

shogunmark said:
i looked and looked last night... even tried a few things... but still had nothing.. if i sent you a reg dump would you be willing to check it out and see if you can come up with something?
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i take a look and compare to the wizard to.

We've been banging our heads against this one on the TyTn for a while with no success. Good luck! Nothing like a new perspective to maybe find something!
I'd actually thought the 1.34 ROM didn't show 100% initially after powersave though. That's interesting b/c it was on Cingular's fix list from the 1.31 ROM...

Sleuth255 said:
We've been banging our heads against this one on the TyTn for a while with no success. Good luck! Nothing like a new perspective to maybe find something!
I'd actually thought the 1.34 ROM didn't show 100% initially after powersave though. That's interesting b/c it was on Cingular's fix list from the 1.31 ROM...
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funny you mention that.. on wakeup on the factory battery meter is shows "unknown status" for about 2-3 seconds before displaying the actual status of the battery... and glad to see i am not the only one that is anal about it

HTC Performance (overclocking cab) safe for 8525?

I want to overclock my 8525 as it's really been slow lately, and I've read a lot of threads about PocketHackmaster not working correctly and xcpu scaler not being correct for our CPU, etc, etc.
But I came across some good feedback on the HTC Performance cab working very well on Apache and some other HTC phones to make them work a lot faster with little noticable drop off on battery life, and I wanted to see if anyone knows if this overclocking cab will work safely on our 8525's before I tinker with it (I don't want to risk a hard reset).
Thanks.

JK8732 said:
But I came across some good feedback on the HTC Performance cab working very well on Apache and some other HTC phones to make them work a lot faster with little noticable drop off on battery life, and I wanted to see if anyone knows if this overclocking cab will work safely on our 8525's before I tinker with it (I don't want to risk a hard reset).
Thanks.
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Where's the thread info for this HTC Performance cab? If it workes on hermes, then I'd have thought we would have heard about it? I would say don't do it based on this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2359934

JK8732 said:
I want to overclock my 8525 as it's really been slow lately, and I've read a lot of threads about PocketHackmaster not working correctly and xcpu scaler not being correct for our CPU, etc, etc.
But I came across some good feedback on the HTC Performance cab working very well on Apache and some other HTC phones to make them work a lot faster with little noticable drop off on battery life, and I wanted to see if anyone knows if this overclocking cab will work safely on our 8525's before I tinker with it (I don't want to risk a hard reset).
Thanks.
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If you search on google, you can find there are a few posts saying you shouldn't be doing this, if you want to have a longer battery and a longer life of your device. If you want to upgrade in the next 3 to 6 months why not, try it out. Here is the file, ... I would not go near it, happy enough to use my current ROM the way it is.
Check this post what it did to the kaiser.
Here is the cab for those who's willing to try.
Edit, don't bother it doesn't work, the mod has advised if you look at the post and the rest of the thread above.

galaxys said:
Where's the thread info for this HTC Performance cab? If it workes on hermes, then I'd have thought we would have heard about it? I would say don't do it based on this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2359934
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I did a Google search on overclocking after going thru XDA first, and came across this thread on PPC Geeks: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11573
I've tried xpu scaler before and didn't see any difference (and subsequently read a couple threads saying it wasn't made for the Samsung CPU in our 8525's), so I wanted to see if there was another one out there that could reliably upgrade the speed of the 8525.
I may give this one a whirl and let you know unless anyone has any other suggestions on one I should try instead...

Ok, so I've been running this HTC Performance cab for a few days now on my 8525, and I definitely think it's running smoother with it on (I was just messing around turning it on and off and went to the same programs, etc, and I see a noticable difference in how fast things are opening and closing)
I have it set on 520 mhz 'maximal cpu speed', with 'enable dynamic cpu frequence changing' checked
I haven't had a chance to check battery life as I was playing around most of yesterday installing a new spb pocket plus program and messing with adding icons, etc, but I'll report back and let you know if I notice anything different with battery life as well.

zocster said:
If you search on google, you can find there are a few posts saying you shouldn't be doing this, if you want to have a longer battery and a longer life of your device. If you want to upgrade in the next 3 to 6 months why not, try it out. Here is the file, ... I would not go near it, happy enough to use my current ROM the way it is.
Check this post what it did to the kaiser.
Here is the cab for those who's willing to try.
Edit, don't bother it doesn't work, the mod has advised if you look at the post and the rest of the thread above.
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forgive me but how do you install this cab or how do you work it just to try it you know please get back to me

I installed it on my Dopod 838pro running Schaps 4.30 yesterday.
Nothing happened for a while.
No menu or shortcut to activate the speed up either.
When I got home last night, the Dopod is practically dead!
It would power on & flicker out before it completely boots up.
Luckily, I had my firiend's old Dopod in my drawer.
Took a charged battery from the spare and my 'bricked' Dopod came to life.
But died again later that night.
Hard resting it did no good either.
Looks like it flattens the battery & then refuses to charge it!
Today, I put another freshly charged battery, booted it and flashed in Satin Normal.
Right now, it is connected to my notebook and when turned on shows the battery as slowly charging. Hope it stays fixed!
I recommend all folks avoid this patch!
Stay tuned!

Phew!
After waiting anxiously overnight, it appears that re-flashing my ROM (from Schaps 4.30 to Black Satin Normal) seems to have fixed my problem.
Battery is still at 90%!

leedroid lag?

Hi, I've just flashed leedroid but I seem to be suffering with some small amount of lag that I didn't experience on the stock Rom..... when I open messages or emails for example there is a small pause, and u can visibly see the screen refresh. I never suffered with this this beforehand. Also I have noticed that I'm getting some lag when changing certain settings, the leedeoid Icon pops up whilst its thinking..... now, so far I haven't gotten around to installing the LeeDrOiD Ace V2.2.5 R2 Kernel, is that likely to fix my little issue?
Cheers
Steve

After flashing, have you done another reboot? Sometimes I find a new ROM doesn't settle until I've rebooted a couple of times. Give it a try and see how it feels then report back either way

Let it bed in steve, should have dropped this in the rom thread

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Let it bed in steve, should have dropped this in the rom thread
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New members aren't allowed to post in Dev section until they hit a certain post count

Yup...reboot will fix your problem..
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Thanks for the reply Lee, but as citizenlee said, I'm unable to post in that section at present.
So far i still seem to be having the slow refresh issue on sms and emails, do u think that the fact I haven't flashed the Ace V2.2.5 R2 Kernel yet could be part of the issue? I'm certainly going to try flashing it to see if it helps..... I know know you've put a heck of a lot of work into this and believe me it is appreciated, just hope I can get it working as well as it was intended.

You could try the kernel... and failing that a full wipe and reflash of the ROM should sort you out

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Let it bed in steve, should have dropped this in the rom thread
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dear lee i have installed your PERFECT rom 2.2 1.8 ghz
but it has frozen 2 times the screen and after rebooting it stays frozen...?
this also happened with coredroid ..any suggestions my friend?
regards(i am new here^^)

Ok, i think i got to the bottom of my lag problems. I have been playing around with set cpu today. I think the minimum speed of 245mhz in smartass was too low and was causing the lag (usually when waking the phone from screen off) I have now changed settings to 'ondemand' with a minimum speed of 245mhz and maximum of 1344mhz but i also created a 'screen off' profile with a working range of 245mhz to 576mhz which seems to give it a bit more poke when waking from screen off No more lag! ( i still have the visible refresh issue i mentioned, maybe i'm imagining that one though, maybe it did do it on the stock rom but i didn't take note of it....??)
So, i really have no idea if i've done the right thing with the way i have set up setcpu so if anyone would care to comment on the settings i've used please do so.
Many thanks again for all the help.
Steve