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MDA Battery Life

I swear the mda compact has the crappest battery life ever.
I run tomtom for 1hour and it saps 50% battery power
I have to recharge my battery every night even if i've only spoken on the phone for like 20 minutes.
Is it just me???????

I would say your battery is fubar. Try a replacement battery.
My Qtek S110 drops 15% per 24h standby with wireless enabled and 10% in flight mode. Working 1h with med backlight will drain about 15-20%. Really stressing the system running benchmark loops (similar to what Tomtom will do) 10% of the battery are gone in 20min. But I'm nowhere near loosing 50% in an hour.
Overall the battery performance is way better than with my old iPAQ 5450. I need to recharge my Qtek S110 after 3-4 days with my usage that consists of stanby consumption, some 10-15min calling each day average and some 1-2 hours active work per day.

I recharge mine every day and all I do is play solitaire and virtual pool! I'm not getting a gps system for mine until I get an active car mount with charger and speaker built in.
When I first got my jam I could kill the battery in 1 1/2 hours by playing Age of Empires flat out!

my magician holds for 1 week with every day 1h movies or mp3s and 10min. talking.
So how i manage it? I dont know, the only thing i do is i fully load the batt. and sap it off till 10% and then the same... (some in this board told me that this is a good way to destroy the batt. - however it works pretty good for me !)

i have seen a program called battary backup (i think??). has anyone use it?? what does it do??

How about a bigger battery?
Here is a google search for extended batteries. They are only 1500, but that is something extra.
http://www.google.com/search?q=XDA+...ient=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
Here is a 2400, from Australia
http://www.mrgadget.com.au/catalog/...city-liion-polymer-2400mah-battery-p-947.html
BTW, it is best if you don't do two things with a LiIon battery:
1. Run it all the way down.
2. Keep it constantly charged near 100%.
(I learned these from my laptop battery).

Well I try to keep mine between 30% and 80%, that way it should work well.

JuNiOr_Gr said:
i have seen a program called battary backup (i think??). has anyone use it?? what does it do??
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I use Phone Snooze who do a good job. This software automatically switch the radio off at night and on at mornin' (but you can parameter easily days/hours). It works very well and it permit to increase life battery.

Doesn't phonealarm do that too? I mean switching wireless settings and profiles at set times.

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Doesn't phonealarm do that too? I mean switching wireless settings and profiles at set times.
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i dunno, maybe palarm do it, but phonesnooze is a light soft and it's very fast to set up , I just use palarm as profile/counter.

I know but if palarm does that too why waste space on another tool that does the same?
By the way, you got the wrong flag in your profile. Isnt that hungary?

Private-Cowboy said:
I know but if palarm does that too why waste space on another tool that does the same?
By the way, you got the wrong flag in your profile. Isnt that hungary?
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NO IS THE ITALIAN FLAG > A google search may help you to learn better world flags

placidof said:
Private-Cowboy said:
I know but if palarm does that too why waste space on another tool that does the same?
By the way, you got the wrong flag in your profile. Isnt that hungary?
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ha ha
I think my battery is deffo fukked

placidof said:
Private-Cowboy said:
I know but if palarm does that too why waste space on another tool that does the same?
By the way, you got the wrong flag in your profile. Isnt that hungary?
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Haha, you got me there. I did a google search because I know that green-white-red is not the flag for france. Hungaria and Italy are the same here, just the orientation is different. Italy has the stripes vertically and Hungaria has them horizontically. I didnt want to offend you.

Private-Cowboy said:
placidof said:
Private-Cowboy said:
I know but if palarm does that too why waste space on another tool that does the same?
By the way, you got the wrong flag in your profile. Isnt that hungary?
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Haha, you got me there. I did a google search because I know that green-white-red is not the flag for france. Hungaria and Italy are the same here, just the orientation is different. Italy has the stripes vertically and Hungaria has them horizontically. I didnt want to offend you.
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You probably didn't know but if you hold your mouse over the flag it tells the country.

That is true but only in Internet Explorer and I'll stay away from that as good as I can. I use Opera and there it does not show.

Country doesn't come up in Firefox either, but I'm pretty good with flags anyway....
Oh, and on topic, I found a page which offers a little insight into battery care. Doesn't tell you too much, but here it is.

WM5 aways running in the background after use

hmm.. got my xda mini s for xmas, battery does not seem that great so i looking at ways of saving my battery, now ive noticed that all the programs i use do NOT seem to close after use, ive found this out by checking the task manager. is there something wrong with my device?

That's the way things work on the PocketPC, it's called SmartMinimize. The system will close any apps when it needs to. In theory...
If you want to close apps yourself, use a taskkiller like GSPocketMagic or SmallMenu.
I've made a tiny program that can be assigned to a hardware key to do the same kind of things (still in testing).
Read about it here
V

I just assigned a close all and close all but current to mort button. Very easy.

knowsleyroader said:
I just assigned a close all and close all but current to mort button. Very easy.
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Of course the other side of the coin is that if you close all programs, they take longer to load next time you need them. Which can be annoying on WM5 devices because of the slow flash memory. So many task managers (including GSPocketMagic) allow you to specify which programs to keep running, so you can switch to them instantly (e.g. Messaging).

Ineedtoys said:
knowsleyroader said:
I just assigned a close all and close all but current to mort button. Very easy.
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Of course the other side of the coin is that if you close all programs, they take longer to load next time you need them. Which can be annoying on WM5 devices because of the slow flash memory. So many task managers (including GSPocketMagic) allow you to specify which programs to keep running, so you can switch to them instantly (e.g. Messaging).
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Spot on, I use SPBPocketPLus to close all programs appart from IE, Outlook and Phone. Leaves plenty of free memory and the apps I use the most then fire up instantly

Fantastic guys, thank you got SPBPocketPLus, works like a wet dream!
cheers sipepguru

sipepguru: dude, you need to get out more.
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sipepguru said:
hmm.. got my xda mini s for xmas, battery does not seem that great
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That's funny ? I was just thinking last night as I charged our mini's that they had done really well on a first charge 7 full days ! I charged them both before wrapping on Xmas eve and they only finally expired last night at 11pm :shock: Ok so we are not fiddling with them constantly :roll:
What are the rest of you getting charge wise ?

Got mine yesterday, and I'm really amazed by the battery life (in ON state, cause is hasn't had much time to sleep yet )
This morning I've been listening to a webradio through wireless + using ICQ and MSN, I still had 50% of battery after 2 hours.
Before getting this one I had a blueangel, doing the same things with it would already have killed the battery by that time. I'm now waiting to see how it lasts just playing MP3s with screen off, the BA could give me 9hrs if underclocked at 100MHz. Unfortunately no clock setting tool yet for the wizard, still waiting...

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sipepguru said:
hmm.. got my xda mini s for xmas, battery does not seem that great
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That's funny ? I was just thinking last night as I charged our mini's that they had done really well on a first charge 7 full days ! I charged them both before wrapping on Xmas eve and they only finally expired last night at 11pm :shock: Ok so we are not fiddling with them constantly :roll:
What are the rest of you getting charge wise ?
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Getting about the same from mine, bit less if I fiddle a lot. Wel impressed with battery life.
(BTW I'm Uridium from AVforums under a different name!) Nice to see you found your way over here

x01ht hot Problem

Hi all,
I got a problem about my x01ht. After I used my phone(talking more than 10mins), it is very hot and the battery is dumped very fast.
Please help and what can I do now!!!!!
Thank you very much!
my rom information:
OS ROM: 1.23.708.4
ROM ROM:1.40.30.00
Thanks again.

asachan said:
Hi all,
I got a problem about my x01ht. After I used my phone(talking more than 10mins), it is very hot and the battery is dumped very fast.
Please help and what can I do now!!!!!
Thank you very much!
my rom information:
OS ROM: 1.23.708.4
ROM ROM:1.40.30.00
Thanks again.
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It just depends how quickly the battery is draining. It will get hot on a call over 10 mins but your battery should last at least 10 hours. So is it draining faster than that?
Mike

mikechannon said:
It just depends how quickly the battery is draining. It will get hot on a call over 10 mins but your battery should last at least 10 hours. So is it draining faster than that?
Mike
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Hi Mike,
Thank you for replying me. In my case, the battery is draining within 30mins from 100% to 0%. Would you have any idea about the problem?
Thanks!!

asachan said:
Hi Mike,
Thank you for replying me. In my case, the battery is draining within 30mins from 100% to 0%. Would you have any idea about the problem?
Thanks!!
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Hi asachan
Well that is decidedly not normal. I have seen a few reports here on this problem. A search might show some results I have not tried so far. However, I would do the standard things initially:
1 Remove and reinsert the battery
2 Hard Reset.
If the problem persists and you have a warranty then use it.
If you have no warranty then a detailed search here on rapid battery drain or words to that effect might reveal something.
You may find some people suggesting flashing a new ROM, but check the basics first. In particular, it may be a battery problem so worth checking that.
Mike

the battery should not be drained so quick......
after 2~ hour HSDPA web browsing
then I 've made a few calls (about 15 mins in total)
Then I have a call for 1hr 05mins
I still have 30% remain

takaki said:
the battery should not be drained so quick......
after 2~ hour HSDPA web browsing
then I 've made a few calls (about 15 mins in total)
Then I have a call for 1hr 05mins
I still have 30% remain
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Hi Mike,
Thank you for your suggestions.
I tried your suggestion:
When the phone got hot, I removed the battery and then reinsert it(after the battery is cool down). Then the phone becomes fine.
But, the problem happened again and again when I had a call more more than 10mins.
If I don't have any call, the phone will not have this problem and the battery can use around 1 day even I used GPRS to access the Internet.

asachan said:
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your suggestions.
I tried your suggestion:
When the phone got hot, I removed the battery and then reinsert it(after the battery is cool down). Then the phone becomes fine.
But, the problem happened again and again when I had a call more more than 10mins.
If I don't have any call, the phone will not have this problem and the battery can use around 1 day even I used GPRS to access the Internet.
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Hi
If you do a hard reset and the problem is still there then I would use your warranty to get a replacement. If you have no warranty it is more complicated and expensive. It might be the battery or it could be a circuit problem - one relatively cheap the other expensive. You could try flashing another ROM but that might have no effect.
Mike

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.....You could try flashing another ROM but that might have no effect.
Mike
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A thing ive noticed is some radio versions can also cause a fair battery drain.. (aswell as 3rd party apps...but a HR would eleviate that problem).. Id try a radio upgrade before resorting to the warranty route??

mrvanx said:
A thing ive noticed is some radio versions can also cause a fair battery drain.. (aswell as 3rd party apps...but a HR would eleviate that problem).. Id try a radio upgrade before resorting to the warranty route??
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Hi mrvanx,
I would like to ask which radio rom is better.
Thanks.
Hi Mike,
Thank you very much your reply! The problem is I have no warranty. Also, I tried to exchange the battery with my friend's one. But I still got the problem.
So, I think it could be a circuit problem more than the battery problem. Now I wish WM6.0 can improve my problem. I am waiting the chinese version of WM6.0 now.
Thank you very much! ^_^
All The Best

First off try following my Radio Upgrade Guide, then see what effect that has on the battery life?

asachan said:
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your suggestions.
I tried your suggestion:
When the phone got hot, I removed the battery and then reinsert it(after the battery is cool down). Then the phone becomes fine.
But, the problem happened again and again when I had a call more more than 10mins.
If I don't have any call, the phone will not have this problem and the battery can use around 1 day even I used GPRS to access the Internet.
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Hi asachan,
I have exactly the same problem.... I can pull out battery, then insert it let's say after some hours, then I measure battery current to normal 40ma with radio on, full brightness. And it can be like this for a long time, but usually not long at all, maybe 1-10 minutes, or maybe if I get a call, and suddenly the TyTN starts wasting the battery with currents 300-400ma. I use ACB Power Meter for this. If phone is in my pocket and it starts getting hot, I immediately have to save my battery by powering it off, either by pulling out battery of pressing pwr switch for 5 sec. I am using WM6, have tried most latest versions, and have tried many radios, problem not resolved yet. My phone has been like this from I got it like 2 weeks ago, and I went to the store and requested a new battery but that was not the problem. My first battery went to 0%, big problem to recharge, had to kickstart it with some AAA batteries in serial, huh. Now I have to watch battery all the time, it's a hopeless situation. Will try latest radio 1.43 to check if there's any improvements. If I get a good WM5 I may try that as well, but I do not want that since I like WM6.. if I can only get this device to work normally. Btw, I've also experimented with Bandswitch application to see if that helped, but did not get any further on that neither... next thing is maybe to switch off radio unit, and by the help of an antenna and spectrum analyzer measure if this thing is really readiating something anyway.. I'll do this at work one day I am not so busy maybe. All in all I was very exited to get this TyTN finally, but so far it's been a huge disappointment, it may be a HW error, so if I can't solve it I may have to find some WM put into it and give it back.

@fas73
I see on another post of yours that you have flashed several radio ROMs and with no success.
My gut feeling about this is that the power consumption is so extreme (and this continues even after a hard reset) that it is not something that flashing a ROM (radio or otherwise) will fix. I do appreciate that different ROMs have benefits in terms of power consumption, but this seems so extreme that I am not convinced it's going to be solved by this method, as there seems a strong possibility of a harware problem.
However for those stuck with no warranty, I would follow MrVanx advice and guides.
Mike

Yes, I may have to put this problem into the category "HW error", but the funny thing is that my phone behaves normally when I do this: leave it on and fully charge it, then remove battery for some hours, then start it. Doing this it will always have a normal 30-40ma power consumption, but once battery gets lower or warm during some calls, the phone can get into the high-power-consume state.. I am using Radio 1.43 now and my feelings are it's working better when fully charged, but problem is still present.. I'll see what I'll do..

Just an update to the problem with my HTC TyTN. I happened to purchase a faulty device!!! There was indeed a HW error on my brand new device so I got it swapped with another one that works. Not all problems are SW-bugs..

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Just an update to the problem with my HTC TyTN. I happened to purchase a faulty device!!! There was indeed a HW error on my brand new device so I got it swapped with another one that works. Not all problems are SW-bugs..
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Pleased you now have one that behaves itself
And yes, you're right none of us should jump to conclusions about the source of the problem. An example of this is the "fading to white screen" problem. I have seen several examples where folks have purchased a new screen but the problem remains.
My very simple rule is that if after a hard reset or two, the problem remains, it's likely to be a hardware problem. (there are always exceptions though, and that', amongst other things, is what this community is for.
Mike

HTC Performance (overclocking cab) safe for 8525?

I want to overclock my 8525 as it's really been slow lately, and I've read a lot of threads about PocketHackmaster not working correctly and xcpu scaler not being correct for our CPU, etc, etc.
But I came across some good feedback on the HTC Performance cab working very well on Apache and some other HTC phones to make them work a lot faster with little noticable drop off on battery life, and I wanted to see if anyone knows if this overclocking cab will work safely on our 8525's before I tinker with it (I don't want to risk a hard reset).
Thanks.

JK8732 said:
But I came across some good feedback on the HTC Performance cab working very well on Apache and some other HTC phones to make them work a lot faster with little noticable drop off on battery life, and I wanted to see if anyone knows if this overclocking cab will work safely on our 8525's before I tinker with it (I don't want to risk a hard reset).
Thanks.
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Where's the thread info for this HTC Performance cab? If it workes on hermes, then I'd have thought we would have heard about it? I would say don't do it based on this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2359934

JK8732 said:
I want to overclock my 8525 as it's really been slow lately, and I've read a lot of threads about PocketHackmaster not working correctly and xcpu scaler not being correct for our CPU, etc, etc.
But I came across some good feedback on the HTC Performance cab working very well on Apache and some other HTC phones to make them work a lot faster with little noticable drop off on battery life, and I wanted to see if anyone knows if this overclocking cab will work safely on our 8525's before I tinker with it (I don't want to risk a hard reset).
Thanks.
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If you search on google, you can find there are a few posts saying you shouldn't be doing this, if you want to have a longer battery and a longer life of your device. If you want to upgrade in the next 3 to 6 months why not, try it out. Here is the file, ... I would not go near it, happy enough to use my current ROM the way it is.
Check this post what it did to the kaiser.
Here is the cab for those who's willing to try.
Edit, don't bother it doesn't work, the mod has advised if you look at the post and the rest of the thread above.

galaxys said:
Where's the thread info for this HTC Performance cab? If it workes on hermes, then I'd have thought we would have heard about it? I would say don't do it based on this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2359934
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I did a Google search on overclocking after going thru XDA first, and came across this thread on PPC Geeks: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11573
I've tried xpu scaler before and didn't see any difference (and subsequently read a couple threads saying it wasn't made for the Samsung CPU in our 8525's), so I wanted to see if there was another one out there that could reliably upgrade the speed of the 8525.
I may give this one a whirl and let you know unless anyone has any other suggestions on one I should try instead...

Ok, so I've been running this HTC Performance cab for a few days now on my 8525, and I definitely think it's running smoother with it on (I was just messing around turning it on and off and went to the same programs, etc, and I see a noticable difference in how fast things are opening and closing)
I have it set on 520 mhz 'maximal cpu speed', with 'enable dynamic cpu frequence changing' checked
I haven't had a chance to check battery life as I was playing around most of yesterday installing a new spb pocket plus program and messing with adding icons, etc, but I'll report back and let you know if I notice anything different with battery life as well.

zocster said:
If you search on google, you can find there are a few posts saying you shouldn't be doing this, if you want to have a longer battery and a longer life of your device. If you want to upgrade in the next 3 to 6 months why not, try it out. Here is the file, ... I would not go near it, happy enough to use my current ROM the way it is.
Check this post what it did to the kaiser.
Here is the cab for those who's willing to try.
Edit, don't bother it doesn't work, the mod has advised if you look at the post and the rest of the thread above.
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forgive me but how do you install this cab or how do you work it just to try it you know please get back to me

I installed it on my Dopod 838pro running Schaps 4.30 yesterday.
Nothing happened for a while.
No menu or shortcut to activate the speed up either.
When I got home last night, the Dopod is practically dead!
It would power on & flicker out before it completely boots up.
Luckily, I had my firiend's old Dopod in my drawer.
Took a charged battery from the spare and my 'bricked' Dopod came to life.
But died again later that night.
Hard resting it did no good either.
Looks like it flattens the battery & then refuses to charge it!
Today, I put another freshly charged battery, booted it and flashed in Satin Normal.
Right now, it is connected to my notebook and when turned on shows the battery as slowly charging. Hope it stays fixed!
I recommend all folks avoid this patch!
Stay tuned!

Phew!
After waiting anxiously overnight, it appears that re-flashing my ROM (from Schaps 4.30 to Black Satin Normal) seems to have fixed my problem.
Battery is still at 90%!

Battery Life

Is there anybody know what software or what method can allow my X1 to show the battery life in single digit % instead of moving by 10% each time (i.e. 100%, 90%, 80%, 70%...). I've installed Battery Status which does not work. I have also install a software call Battery Monitor which has a small icon showing on the top bar on the screen.
Thanks in advance for your great help!

I think this does not work at all.

No there isnt any, as the battery driver only reports in 10% step, unless someone can find another driver to embed in the rom that support 1% steps then it wont be possible
also the has been asked several times recent, so a simply search should show more info!!

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No there isnt any, as the battery driver only reports in 10% step, unless someone can find another driver to embed in the rom that support 1% steps then it wont be possible
also the has been asked several times recent, so a simply search should show more info!!
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Thanks! Then I can only wait until the driver is ready.

i remember seeing something about 1% increments for my old touch pro somewhere... maybe it was at ppcgeeks...
anyways, i remember it wasn't accurate above 90% and below 15%.... it was buggy... you can try to find it and install it if youd like to just try it out
my guess something good will come around soon tho

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i remember seeing something about 1% increments for my old touch pro somewhere... maybe it was at ppcgeeks...
anyways, i remember it wasn't accurate above 90% and below 15%.... it was buggy... you can try to find it and install it if youd like to just try it out
my guess something good will come around soon tho
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Thanks a lot! Do you know how the software looks like? It is because I have installed battery status, not working. I have installed battery monitor, not working... I am not sure if you are talking about something which I have already installed but have found not working.

no, its not like "software" as much as it is just a cab that makes some registry tweaks and could possibly replace/add a .dll file
i'll do some searching and see if i can find it

Perhaps this one...?
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=511610&postcount=89

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Perhaps this one...?
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=511610&postcount=89
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Thanks buddy! I did try but unfortunately it does not work and the battery meter show abnormally -1% and there was a warning message asking me to replace battery. Anyway, thanks for your help!