WM5 aways running in the background after use - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

hmm.. got my xda mini s for xmas, battery does not seem that great so i looking at ways of saving my battery, now ive noticed that all the programs i use do NOT seem to close after use, ive found this out by checking the task manager. is there something wrong with my device?

That's the way things work on the PocketPC, it's called SmartMinimize. The system will close any apps when it needs to. In theory...
If you want to close apps yourself, use a taskkiller like GSPocketMagic or SmallMenu.
I've made a tiny program that can be assigned to a hardware key to do the same kind of things (still in testing).
Read about it here
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I just assigned a close all and close all but current to mort button. Very easy.

knowsleyroader said:
I just assigned a close all and close all but current to mort button. Very easy.
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Of course the other side of the coin is that if you close all programs, they take longer to load next time you need them. Which can be annoying on WM5 devices because of the slow flash memory. So many task managers (including GSPocketMagic) allow you to specify which programs to keep running, so you can switch to them instantly (e.g. Messaging).

Ineedtoys said:
knowsleyroader said:
I just assigned a close all and close all but current to mort button. Very easy.
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Of course the other side of the coin is that if you close all programs, they take longer to load next time you need them. Which can be annoying on WM5 devices because of the slow flash memory. So many task managers (including GSPocketMagic) allow you to specify which programs to keep running, so you can switch to them instantly (e.g. Messaging).
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Spot on, I use SPBPocketPLus to close all programs appart from IE, Outlook and Phone. Leaves plenty of free memory and the apps I use the most then fire up instantly

Fantastic guys, thank you got SPBPocketPLus, works like a wet dream!
cheers sipepguru

sipepguru: dude, you need to get out more.
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sipepguru said:
hmm.. got my xda mini s for xmas, battery does not seem that great
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That's funny ? I was just thinking last night as I charged our mini's that they had done really well on a first charge 7 full days ! I charged them both before wrapping on Xmas eve and they only finally expired last night at 11pm :shock: Ok so we are not fiddling with them constantly :roll:
What are the rest of you getting charge wise ?

Got mine yesterday, and I'm really amazed by the battery life (in ON state, cause is hasn't had much time to sleep yet )
This morning I've been listening to a webradio through wireless + using ICQ and MSN, I still had 50% of battery after 2 hours.
Before getting this one I had a blueangel, doing the same things with it would already have killed the battery by that time. I'm now waiting to see how it lasts just playing MP3s with screen off, the BA could give me 9hrs if underclocked at 100MHz. Unfortunately no clock setting tool yet for the wizard, still waiting...

peanut said:
sipepguru said:
hmm.. got my xda mini s for xmas, battery does not seem that great
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That's funny ? I was just thinking last night as I charged our mini's that they had done really well on a first charge 7 full days ! I charged them both before wrapping on Xmas eve and they only finally expired last night at 11pm :shock: Ok so we are not fiddling with them constantly :roll:
What are the rest of you getting charge wise ?
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Getting about the same from mine, bit less if I fiddle a lot. Wel impressed with battery life.
(BTW I'm Uridium from AVforums under a different name!) Nice to see you found your way over here

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Activesync-related SVCHOST now sucking all my CPU!

Activesync-related SVCHOST now sucking all my CPU!
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Been having a few issues with Activesync, and uninstalled it. All is fine with it off.
When I install it again though, I now have an svchost.exe taking 70-90% of my CPU cycles, and 98-99% when it's syncing.
Microsoft, I hate you with a passion. What's going on?!!
Is this on PC or PDA? On PC it's advisable to close Activesync if you're not using it, since it can chew up around 8% cpu in idle.
On PDA, phew, bane of my life too! But use a taskmanager to close it likewise when you don't need it.
If you've not got another taskkiller, use this one:
This is from the Microsoft SDK, just modded very slightly by me to allow you to close errant apps, especially useful when I was developing VJBigPhone.
Be careful, it can close pretty much any app, including system stuff like GWES. But if that's one you want, that's what'll 'appen.
VJTrayTaskList
If you press the "Ok" button it'll sit in your Today Tray for ease of use.
Click the checkbox to allow you to close stubborn apps.
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vijay555 said:
Is this on PC or PDA? On PC it's advisable to close Activesync if you're not using it, since it can chew up around 8% cpu in idle.
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On the PC - I wonder if it's Wifi related - just got back fromn the shop, and the problem isn't showing itself, but I have wifi turned off.
Hmm.....
EDIT: Nope.... it's just gone to 70-99% again, and performance has gone to the dogs... no wifi.
This is beginning to annoy me.

annoying battery meter

does anyone else experience where their battery meter only decreases by 10%... at first i thought it was battery status.. it would go from 100%-90%-80% etc, so i opened the actual battery meter that is built and it does the same thing.. what i wouldnt give to see my battery meter go 100%-99%-98% etc... maybe im just to anal
I thought I was the only one!
I just got my 8525 yesterday - upgraded from the 8125. I noticed the battery meter "issue" also and it has been driving me nuts. I googled a little and couldn't find any information. I have reinstalled the Resco today plug 3 or 4 times thinking it was the problem.
Is there any fix? A registry hack? I hate 10% increments - would prefer 1% like my 8125 use to be. Can anyone help?
Atken said:
I thought I was the only one!
I just got my 8525 yesterday - upgraded from the 8125. I noticed the battery meter "issue" also and it has been driving me nuts. I googled a little and couldn't find any information. I have reinstalled the Resco today plug 3 or 4 times thinking it was the problem.
Is there any fix? A registry hack? I hate 10% increments - would prefer 1% like my 8125 use to be. Can anyone help?
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i hope there is a fix somewhere...
Atken said:
I thought I was the only one!
I just got my 8525 yesterday - upgraded from the 8125. I noticed the battery meter "issue" also and it has been driving me nuts. I googled a little and couldn't find any information. I have reinstalled the Resco today plug 3 or 4 times thinking it was the problem.
Is there any fix? A registry hack? I hate 10% increments - would prefer 1% like my 8125 use to be. Can anyone help?
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Your not the only one, and somewhere I have seen other posts on this so it's just standard. I have also tried other meters but they all seem to draw on the same battery info, i.e. the 10% at a time. I suppose it's not a critical matter unless your on your last 10% in which case it can suddenly become critical.
I haven't seen a solution but I would like to be proved wrong!
Mike
Dang, I have the same issue. I was hoping there was already a fix for it.
I keep thinking the 8125 did this as well at some point.
Either way, we definitely need a fix for this 10% decrement crap.
This maybe a dumb question.... When a device reports in such small incriments of 1% lets say.. Does'nt that sorta require more CPU power in the long run?? Better for the device not to report so much right ?? 10% left means hmm I should get to a charger in about 30mins..
mrderby said:
This maybe a dumb question.... When a device reports in such small incriments of 1% lets say.. Does'nt that sorta require more CPU power in the long run?? Better for the device not to report so much right ?? 10% left means hmm I should get to a charger in about 30mins..
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Not dumb, very sensible in fact, just not very satisfying for us obsessive compulsives
Mike
i guess i will admit i must be obsessive compulsive... cause this shouldnt bother me as long as its halfway accurate.. but it does.. i think what bothers me is that you see it sit at 100% for a long time, then all of sudden you look and its 90%... just bothers the fk out of me..
Now that my therapy session is over...
Now here is a good question... does this happen the same way on the stock TyTn's and hermes? or is this just a cingular 8525 thing?
Happens the same on ALL Hermes devices, sadly...
This is the way the driver gives the battery status to WM. The only fix would be a new driver from HTC.
I think that this is a minor problem in a device almost perfect (in my opinion)
i wonder if its possible to steal the driver from the wizard.... hmmmm... unfortunately i wont get time to dig and see until this weekend
I have the same problem and I find it really annoying.
shogunmark said:
does anyone else experience where their battery meter only decreases by 10%... at first i thought it was battery status.. it would go from 100%-90%-80% etc, so i opened the actual battery meter that is built and it does the same thing.. what i wouldnt give to see my battery meter go 100%-99%-98% etc... maybe im just to anal
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sorry di not see you message before in msn,
here is the file you need from the wizard 3.2
remove the ZIP extencion
put into the window folder.better yet make a cab file ,make sure is set to hard path.
dont know if i will work......it also depends of the inbuild battery poolling timer. most problably found in the registry.
faria said:
sorry di not see you message before in msn,
here is the file you need from the wizard 3.2
remove the ZIP extencion
put into the window folder.better yet make a cab file ,make sure is set to hard path.
dont know if i will work......it also depends of the inbuild battery poolling timer. most problably found in the registry.
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thanks faria, you are still my hero.. i will try to give that a shot tonight if i have time, i have to work till 11pm tonight then back in to work at 8am(not to mention the hour drive time to and from .... i did find the battery polling timer in the reg earlier today and its set to 5000.. if someone has the time and the know how they are more than welcome to take a crack at this...
FYI just a regular copy/paste of that file cause the battery meter not work, lol... will maybe try a cab later
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thanks faria, you are still my hero.. i will try to give that a shot tonight if i have time, i have to work till 11pm tonight then back in to work at 8am(not to mention the hour drive time to and from .... i did find the battery polling timer in the reg earlier today and its set to 5000.. if someone has the time and the know how they are more than welcome to take a crack at this...
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also look for the references of the %
most problably all you need to do what u want to achive can be done in the registry.
faria said:
also look for the references of the %
most problably all you need to do what u want to achive can be done in the registry.
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i looked and looked last night... even tried a few things... but still had nothing.. if i sent you a reg dump would you be willing to check it out and see if you can come up with something?
shogunmark said:
i looked and looked last night... even tried a few things... but still had nothing.. if i sent you a reg dump would you be willing to check it out and see if you can come up with something?
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i take a look and compare to the wizard to.
We've been banging our heads against this one on the TyTn for a while with no success. Good luck! Nothing like a new perspective to maybe find something!
I'd actually thought the 1.34 ROM didn't show 100% initially after powersave though. That's interesting b/c it was on Cingular's fix list from the 1.31 ROM...
Sleuth255 said:
We've been banging our heads against this one on the TyTn for a while with no success. Good luck! Nothing like a new perspective to maybe find something!
I'd actually thought the 1.34 ROM didn't show 100% initially after powersave though. That's interesting b/c it was on Cingular's fix list from the 1.31 ROM...
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funny you mention that.. on wakeup on the factory battery meter is shows "unknown status" for about 2-3 seconds before displaying the actual status of the battery... and glad to see i am not the only one that is anal about it

Battery drains 50% a day...whilst idling!

Guys,
pretty much as the topic says...it drains about 40 to 50% a day when it is idle....if I am using it it can be anything up to a 1% a minute.
Any hints on where to look - tried using battlog to log the usage but i cannot open the subsequent file at all.
Wiggz said:
Guys,
pretty much as the topic says...it drains about 40 to 50% a day when it is idle....if I am using it it can be anything up to a 1% a minute.
Any hints on where to look - tried using battlog to log the usage but i cannot open the subsequent file at all.
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Wiggz,
Try checking if you're in a dead-zone with no reception? (Your phone may be constantly trying to search for a signal). Do this for Wi-Fi too. Make sure it is not constantly scanning for a network.
Similarly, open up your task manager. How many programs do you see running in the background? Remember that pressing X in Windows Mobile does not mean it closes the application, it only means that the application is minimized.
Cheers.
Wifi is hardly ever on. My signal is always constant, but I have my data connection on 24/7 for emails. The only program I ever see consume CPU power when idle is "changescreen". I always check that a program has closed properly when I click the 'x'.
I know data connection on eats some battery but jesus - not that much surely?
Wiggz said:
Wifi is hardly ever on. My signal is always constant, but I have my data connection on 24/7 for emails. The only program I ever see consume CPU power when idle is "changescreen". I always check that a program has closed properly when I click the 'x'.
I know data connection on eats some battery but jesus - not that much surely?
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Wiggz,
The question remains, how many programs do you see when you open up the task-manager? You did not answer the question.
From what I've observed with my friend's Toshiba Portege, he lost 30% in an hour. He did not realize that he had 15-ish programs "idling" in the background with very little RAM use. Long story short: Turn everything off if you don't need it and just keep the Task Manager running. He now goes through the night with 1 ~ 2% loss.
Good day.
PoisonWolf said:
Wiggz,
The question remains, how many programs do you see when you open up the task-manager? You did not answer the question.
From what I've observed with my friend's Toshiba Portege, he lost 30% in an hour. He did not realize that he had 15-ish programs "idling" in the background with very little RAM use. Long story short: Turn everything off if you don't need it and just keep the Task Manager running. He now goes through the night with 1 ~ 2% loss.
Good day.
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When I open up task manager I see 4 applications running (taskmgr, manila, cprog x2) - when I check the processes I have many more obviously. However these are all processes I'd expect to be running (gwes.exe, cprog.exe, device.exe, services.exe etc...)
Any more advice?
Wiggz said:
When I open up task manager I see 4 applications running (taskmgr, manila, cprog x2) - when I check the processes I have many more obviously. However these are all processes I'd expect to be running (gwes.exe, cprog.exe, device.exe, services.exe etc...)
Any more advice?
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Wiggz,
Unfortunately, that's all from me (I dont even have this phone yet, I'm saving up for it in the next couple of weeks). Try turning off your data and see how it goes. But damn, 50% loss just on idling, something in the background is definitely killing the battery.
Cheers!
Thanks for the help anyway - annoying the crap out of me. My Artemis used to go for days without needing a charge...I suppose my battery could be screwed but I want to troubleshoot first before I bite the bullet on that one - suppose I could hard reset and see what the drain is?
Things idling in RAM should not have any significant hit on the battery life. However, having the data connection on 24/7 will indeed kill your battery life, especially if you're using 3g or higher (Edge drains alot aswell, but not as much as 3g and higher). Since emails seem important to you, I'm guessing you have it set to dl every 5min (which is the most frequent setting). If applicable, change it to 10 or 15; granted it's possible you do need to get your emails ASAP and you need the 5min frequency. Now regardless whether you changed the frequency of the auto dl or not, set your data connection to terminate after a 1min of not being used. This should help you get a good bit more out of your battery.
(I have emails dl every 30min and RSS feeds and push pages once an hour. Data enables itself when needed and then terminates after a minute of not being used. This allows me to get much more than a days usage out of the phone. The only way I kill the phone is if on top of all that, I listen to music/radio for about 6 hours)
Hope it helps
oh, and in case you don't know, HD Tweak is one way to terminate data after X amount of time of not being used.
do you have stock or cooked rom btw? duttys v3 xt, for example, is known to drain battery a lot.
Svegetto said:
oh, and in case you don't know, HD Tweak is one way to terminate data after X amount of time of not being used.
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Cheers for this. I have HD Tweak and have tried that data connection termination setting before, however there is a little comment along with it that it can stop data and/or voice calls. Has anyone had any issues with it?
Thanks
i had similar problem, battery got drained overnight or during the day with a speed of light... but in my case the bad boy was Palringo (IM) which was auto starting with every phone reset and did not show on taskbar...it is so bad that it drained fully charged battery in aprox. 6-7 hours. so now i hardly use it, and whenever i do i make sure its closed properly....
Wiggz said:
Cheers for this. I have HD Tweak and have tried that data connection termination setting before, however there is a little comment along with it that it can stop data and/or voice calls. Has anyone had any issues with it?
Thanks
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personally I have had no issues whatsoever. The voice calls that I'm guessing they're referring to is VOIP which uses your data plan to make the call as I don't see why it would interfere with normal calls. I think the easiest thing is just to give it a try, and if it doesn't work for you, then let us know and hopefully we'll be able to come up with a different solution.
Svegetto said:
personally I have had no issues whatsoever. The voice calls that I'm guessing they're referring to is VOIP which uses your data plan to make the call as I don't see why it would interfere with normal calls. I think the easiest thing is just to give it a try, and if it doesn't work for you, then let us know and hopefully we'll be able to come up with a different solution.
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Well the reason I mentioned it was that I enabled that as one of a number of weaks and ended up having to hard reset as I wasn't getting Texts in a timely manner etc....it was probably another setting but I couldn't be sure.
Will try again. Only other thing is that data connection on 24/7 is great for a quick browse here and there and stock updates etc...
crashDebug said:
do you have stock or cooked rom btw? duttys v3 xt, for example, is known to drain battery a lot.
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why is that, by the way?
You haven't got Sprite Virtual Mobile installed have you? I tried it out on my HD and it sucked the life out of it for some strange reason. And it wasn't even showing up in task manager.
Is there a list of processes, services etc that we can safely remove/disable to work in the background? What say all?
glad this thread came up - my blackstone has been absolutely fine until I had the genius idea of "optimising" everything about 2 weeks ago with HD Tweak...
Now it's not HD Tweaks fault, but whatever I have changed means that it can drain a full charge overnight, and by morning its nigh on empty, i'm going to try and change it all back today, but for sure some setting I've changed is sucking juice like no-ones business.
FWIW - I havent installed anything during this time, the only thing i've changed is some of the settings - so it's not a "rogue" app draining the battery.
OT - sorry for the semi-hijack - I guess my point is that i'll have a play with the settings and see if I can determine what's eating the battery and then compare with other people.
that's fine (re: hijack) I think the two topics are closely connected.....not sure of the answer though
Wiggz said:
that's fine (re: hijack) I think the two topics are closely connected.....not sure of the answer though
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ta - me either - i've changed a few settings and made a note - will post if it doesnt eat the battery overnight over the next couple of days.

2x battery life

for the sake of simplifying my phone, I removed all the tabs and kept only the following:
1. Home
2. People
3. SMS
4. Calendar
5. Settings
Now I see that my battery life is almost double than before.
wow!
That is an interesting observation, and I think I will try it. Have you tried adding the tabs back in to confirm? How long before someone asks for a .cab file?
u will be suprised LOL
thanks for the tip, since i dont really use those tabs much might as well get rid of them
Remove Sense completely and benefit even more
I know some people can't live without it though. Anything that saves power and makes the phone more responsive is a good result.
Well played!
i would...but i dont find titanium smooth...
another note..i have 4 email accounts incl. 1 ms exchange..
The reason why is simple
When u place the tabs Pictures and Music they will take up memory because they keep searching for music and pictures
memory consuumption is no different. still 60% or so with no open apps.
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How long before someone asks for a .cab file?
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That's so funny
i think i missed this...i also disabled the ambient light sensor. that maybe the reason for longer battery life.
how do you disable that? is it the automatically adjust light from battery settings?
Right. I set the brightness min/max permanently insteadof "autmatic".
My internet connection was always on and I generally charged my phone via the computer using the usb lead.
Recently started charging it overnight using the mains and keep the internet connection off when I am not using it. I have noticed a huge difference. Instead of 24hours use, I now easily get a day and a half!
Regards

[Q] Very High Battery usage during Night! [HELP]

Hi,
I'm an owner of a samsung galaxy s5. never had trouble with battery so far. I could use it like on and a half day with some gaming music and internet. Now since 2 days My phone drowns the battery crazy during night. You can also see below in the images. when splitting the chart in half left side is during day, right side is during night. You can clearly see the power consumption is A LOT more during night. I don't know exactly why.
Just before 2 days ago I did these things:
I installed Angry birds. You see during day usage two steep battery usage drops. those are from playing angry birds.
I configured flipboard with my account and started using it for the 1st time.
I downloaded a new TTS voice pack for for google TTS engine for the google now I use now instead of the S Voice I hate.
for the rest there are a few apps that updated such as:
Antutu benchmark and speedtest, perhaps accuweather, can't remember for sure though these might be wrong.
i.imgur.com/RMY4SLN.png
i.imgur.com/R41deei.png
This is a huge problem since I woke up yesterday to an empty battery.
I hope you guys know what could be causing this.
Thanks in advance.
Sometime just reboot the phone may help to fix the issue.
Good call, thanks
Edit: Though yesterday the battery was completely drained and the phone closed. So technically it was restarted back then. Yet the problem occurred this night again.
i am having the same proble
android OS And Gpds are using all my battery even after a fresh reinstall i dont know what to do
Okay, this night I didn't have the problem anymore (after ai had the same problem 2 consecutive nights).
All I did was disabling and uninstalling all the apps I don't use (if it was possible of course, some apps such as the ELM Agent cannot be uninstalled).
So the programs I disabled are:
Flibboard
S Health
S Planner
S Voice
Smart Remote
For the most samsung services he phone offers I always hav ebeen using the google variant if possible
Programs I uninstalled:
Free App a Day (program giving that names a program every day that became free)
Diablo 3 dashboard (shows the statistics of my diablo 3 characters. This Always seemed to be running in the background, but I actually have no use to it so deleted it)
For the rest cannot remember for sure. But yeah problems seems to be solved for now, and I hope it won't happen again.
And it happened again for some reason.
As you can see in the screenshots.
About the game "unpossible" I forgot it on right before I was going to sleep and noticed it was running right before sleeping so I did close it. At the beginning of the graph, you can see a small dip, that is because of that game.
i.imgur.com/jtwCDCU.png
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Also in the morning I noticed the ram was being used up 1.55GB of the 2GB. I restarted my phone and it was somewhere in the 900MB this time.
This is getting frustrating. I need to find the cause of this.
Thanks in advance.
Hi Genkli,
maybe Kaspersky is doing a full scan from time to time, when the phone is not used?
It will probably try that until the full scan is done.
Good luck,
Matt
gigamatze said:
Hi Genkli,
maybe Kaspersky is doing a full scan from time to time, when the phone is not used?
It will probably try that until the full scan is done.
Good luck,
Matt
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Thanks for the reply. Though I would doubt that, since kaspersky only has one scan function which takes only a minute or two I mean A phone doesn't have much data on it compared to a computer.
Also if kaspersky was the cause why doesn't it show up on the battery statistics as the main power consumer?
But it could still be true as you said, will look into it. Thanks.
EDIT: Checked the app, it does have a scheduled scan option which is disabled by default.
genkli said:
Thanks for the reply. Though I would doubt that, since kaspersky only has one scan function which takes only a minute or two I mean A phone doesn't have much data on it compared to a computer.
Also if kaspersky was the cause why doesn't it show up on the battery statistics as the main power consumer?
But it could still be true as you said, will look into it. Thanks.
EDIT: Checked the app, it does have a scheduled scan option which is disabled by default.
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Did you try uninstalling angry birds for a day or 2 to see if the use returns to normal?
Otherwise, I'd do that with each of the apps that you've added recently until you find the evil one...

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