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Just got a s/h exec and I think it is faulty. Whats happens is it starts up ok and works for a while and then for no reason that I can think of it goes into a loop which stops it from working.
When I say a loop I'm not sure thats the right terminology but imagine if you tapped the start button and the start menu opens... and then imagine you tapped the tab button , the next item would highlight. If you tapped the tab button again the next item would highlight and so on. Well its as if the tab button is being hit over and over because all the items in the start menu will be highlighted one after the other over and over again.... it just goes round and round in a loop.
Its possible to escape from this and go to another screen but the same looping will go on in that screen too.
If you switch off and leave for a while and come back to it it works ok for a short time and thens starts the carry on again.
Sometimes if you just wait a while it stops, but will start doing it again even if you dont touch anything.
I've noticed one way to force it to stop is to slide the volume button... this seems to stop the loop and allows normal function for a while.... then the crazy looping starts again.
Has anyone seen this or know anything about it.
Nope sorry, maybe you can have it replaced where you bought it as from your post, you can recreate the problem easily.
Side Note : Have you tried Hard Resetting? Or installing another ROM?
I have tried hard resets and factory reset... problem remains.
Will try new ROM.... just trying to figure out how to do it !
weegee said:
I have tried hard resets and factory reset... problem remains.
Will try new ROM.... just trying to figure out how to do it !
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Just download a new ROM form imate or something, unpack all the files in the ROM update to a directory, put the attached file in same directory.
Enter bootloader mode (Backlight + Power + Reset Hole) you will see SERAIL on the screen but not backlight so look hard.
Plug into PC, the SERIAL will change to USB
Run the attached file. You will see a photo of an S100 but continue anyway....
Hard reset when finished... DOne
ok have installed latest rom... but exec still doing loop loop
Just for arguments sake, can you try installing Imate's newest ROM?
yea thats the one i have just put on.
It seems to be doing the problem less than before. I notice that it does stop if i press the backlight key or move the sound slider.
I'm wondering if there is dust or dirt got in behind the buttons or something like that... although I would have thought other people would have come across this b4 if that was the problem. The machine is one of the first to come out, although I just got it a couple of days ago.
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yea thats the one i have just put on.
It seems to be doing the problem less than before. I notice that it does stop if i press the backlight key or move the sound slider.
I'm wondering if there is dust or dirt got in behind the buttons or something like that... although I would have thought other people would have come across this b4 if that was the problem. The machine is one of the first to come out, although I just got it a couple of days ago.
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If you have tried different ROM flavors and still get the same problem, then it is definitely hardware related. Send your unit in and demand for a new one not a repair
Just been playing around with it again and notice that I can make the problem happen if i press any of the keys on the navigation pad except the top one.... and i can stop the loop by pressing the light button.
Weird or what.
My initial thought on this is maybe its got wet at some point
I have opened the xda up and stripped it down to all its parts. No sign of any dampness or dust dirt etc. Dont see anything missing or broken.
Put back together, but still doing this.
Driving me nuts.... its a great machine but is very tiresom to use with this going on.
Another think I notice about this machine, I have never used it as a phone, but I tried putting a sim card in and There is no sound through the earpiece. Only sound comes from the speakers when you set it to speaker phone.
I suggest just return it and have it replaced. It's probably a faulty button. Probably gets stuck whenever you press it.
Doesnt need a button to be pressed for it to start.. just starts by itself... and can stop by itself too.
Sometimes it can for ages without doing it, other times it does it all the time.
Cant figure if its hardware or software problem
GHOST-IN-THE-MACHINE
Yea... maybe I should get a priest !
I had this problem when i first got mine, if you move the sound slider down, then up, it seems to stop doing it for a while, and it hasn't happened in the last couple of weeks atall, maybe its because its new, and just needs to settle in?
Jay
Well at least I'm not the only one to have it.
My sound slider does stop it happening but only for a while and then it starts up again.
The machine is perfect in every other way, its just an annoyance I could do without.
I've tried everything, even stripped it down and left parts out, like buttons, to see if they are the source, but no difference.
I have the same problem!!!!!!!!!
Someone help please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have same problem. I send to service but until today they can't repair that problem.
Recently I have to press stylus on the screen very hard to do any action- go to start/contacts and so on, sometimes it is so bad I have to do a soft reset, after which it is ok for few moments and goes back to press as hard as you can. After aligning screen it is better for only very short while.
What is happening? Can an old system version have anything to do with it? Should I do a master reset or what?
I hope someone will have a good anwser for those problems.
Do You have any screen protector on Your device [ something like Brando ]?
I do not have anything on the screen... as far as I know, I only had this foil when I bought the phone
Swistak z Angmaru???
I guess the problem narrows down to either of the two:
1:> Screen-alignment going awry
Solution: Search the forum for this issue.There are many people who were facing the problem of being forced to do screen alignment every few mins/hours
2:> Screen-sensitivity too low
Solution: As you have said that after a soft reset and screen-alignment, it works well for some time,i guess this point can be safely ruled out.Nevertheless,you can try this.There is a registry key like "PressureThreshold".Increasing the value and soft-resetting may help.
so does it mean, that screen sesitivity can change itself without my help???
how can I find reg?
Hi all
I bought a JasJam about an year ago, and it has been working fine.
About 5 weeks ago, I flashed it with HardSPL 7, Radio 1.50 and Schap's 3.60a.
It worked fine till yesterday when suddenly following buttons stopped working: IE, Messaging, Left & right soft keys, start, ok, green & red buttons. Rest of the buttons, keyboard etc are fine. There was no impact, no "sudden movements". The buttons just stopped working! I mean, one minute they were fine and the next minute, they were screwed.
I have done following to fix this (in order)
1. Soft reset
2. Hard reset (which shows that there is no problem with the hardware)
3. Flashing with Schap's ROM again
4. Flashing with 3des ROM
5. Flashing with Sleuth's ROM
6. Flashing with Cingular (WM5)
And still, no use! Buttons still don't work.
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Does the silence says: You have to live with it.
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More Updates :s
Now I am not able to delete anything I type. :s Not even while using the onscreen keyboard! I can see that when i tap on the backspace button, it highlights, but the text doesn't get deleted! I have tried this in almost any place which allows you to enter text. :s
I think I will go back to my original shipped ROM and bootloader. :S
Strange stuff happening! Downgrading to olipro 1.10 has solved the backspace problem. How can a bootloader affect a function like that? :s
Back to shipped bootloader and ROM (not the radio) Still the buttons are not functional.
I also opened up the phone and cleaned the buttons, made sure all connections are properly in place. Put everything back together, and no, the buttons don't work.
What do I do?
I have tried a thousand other bootloaders, radios and ROMs... But these buttons wouldn't work?
Where are the geniuses like oli?
I have the exact same issue.. I have pretty much tried all SPL/Radio/ROM/App combinations, including the 1.01 IPL, original SPL, and WM5 that ships on the Tytn from HTC... And, just like you, the keys sometimes work, and then suddenly they stop. Restart or hard-reset seldom brings them back. I know it's not hardware issue because holding down the "-" and "-" keys while resetting always works. I also observe the LEDs on the front panel go all whacky. Sometimes the power LED, which normally blinks on battey power turns on and stays that way; sometimes it doesn't come on at all.
My guy feeling is that this is not ROM related, and somewhere along the line while I was enjoying the "flash-o-palooza", something got corrupted in the flash memory.
I am now looking for a method to do a "harder-reset" that will clean out the whole thing, reflash the bootloader and build it from scratch.
I think the buttons are not properly passing interrept requests to the OS, which as you correctly mentioned is a flash memory / bios problem. (I don't know a lot about hermes architecture)
HTC provides a diagnostic sd card in which you can check if the buttons work fine. I will try to get my hands on one of those.
Did you try going back to Wm5?
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Did you try going back to Wm5?
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Yep.. Many times.
any luck with this? can u get to bootloader mode with the keys?
not believing that it would be hardware problem, I disassembled already some times my TyTn and I did not have sucess. If someone have sucess, post here please
the only obvious thing is that the keybddr.dll driver is not be loaded properly. how do u normally load the rom's? do u let the software boot the phone, or do you put it in bootloader mode first?
as I use a Windows Vista, the ROM upgrader have to be done in the Bootloader Mode
But, Sometimes the buttons works, and in next minute, they die again
its a misterious
Hardware buttons also not working
I am also experiecing this problem. Occasionally the hardware buttons will work, then if I open the slider they stop working. I have also tried updating firmware etc.. but it hasn't helped. The buttons will work if i press the left and right keys while pressing the reset key to do a hard reset. They work every time doing this, so it seems like a software problem. But I don't understand how a s/w problem like this can remain there even after firmware update and hard resets.
I have opened the phone up several times, because I have another problem, or two. As much as I love the phone it has been totally unreliable. It shipped with the LCD not working, I diagnosed that as a faulty ribbon cable, which I replaced, that made the LCD work. But then the earpiece speaker and the front camera didn't work. Now this problem... this is starting to drive me crazy.......
Hi, I have the same problem, I think. Sometimes when I play games, browse the phone or slide down the keybord the buttons below the screen just stop working. I have also tried to flash different roms, but to no good. There is a temp fix thou but it work slow sometimes, if I scroll with the wheel for a bit(the scroll time varies) the button seem to work, but only for a little while.
Does anyone have any news on this issue, cause i can't use any program that need these buttons.
I also have this problem, I guess I'll have to send it in to get it fixed :|
Problem Solved
I have managed to resolve the problem. It started compounding which made me think that it had to be a hardware problem. The first symptoms were that the front bottom hardware keys stopped working. Then the LCD would not align properly after sliding the keyboard, so I would have a white bar at the top and/or left of the screen.
Next the top hardware buttons stopped working, and then finally all I had was a white screen with nothing on it.
I replaced the flex cable that connects the front of the phone to the main board and it has solved all of my problems. I had already replaced this cable when I first got the phone because the one that came was with it was faulty. Now after just a few months of use the replacement one wore out as well. It seems to be the weak link in the build of these phones.
crajoh said:
I have managed to resolve the problem. It started compounding which made me think that it had to be a hardware problem. The first symptoms were that the front bottom hardware keys stopped working. Then the LCD would not align properly after sliding the keyboard, so I would have a white bar at the top and/or left of the screen.
Next the top hardware buttons stopped working, and then finally all I had was a white screen with nothing on it.
I replaced the flex cable that connects the front of the phone to the main board and it has solved all of my problems. I had already replaced this cable when I first got the phone because the one that came was with it was faulty. Now after just a few months of use the replacement one wore out as well. It seems to be the weak link in the build of these phones.
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I don’t think you got the same problem as us, if you check almost all the other button problem threads they are about the white screen but since we in this thread have not gotten any white screens or some of the other symptoms I'm quite sure it’s not the same. Also some with our problem have tried to change the flex cable but it has not fixed the problem.
*edit - I did not put the angry smiley on this post.
Me too!Anybody can soleve it?I found that when they aren't woring,we can touch on screen or press ok button on the left once or twice,they work again!
Hi guys,
I hope someone can help me out here.
Stupidly I dropped my Hermes in my bath this weekend , fortunately I could take it out again very quick but not without some water 'damage'.
After I had left it drying I tried to start it up but it freezed at the bootloader (tri-color screen). After some searching on the forum I've learned that I had to reload my ROM files which I tried and succeeded !
Unfortunately, when the devices reboots, it automatically resets, the flashlight flashes once and the device boots up to the bootloader (same result as holding ok+power and putting the stylus in the soft-reset hole).
So I'm back to square one.
I have dismantled my Hermes to verify that all moisture was gone and re-assembled the device.
I then reloaded again my ROM but with the same result after the reboot, one flash and freezing on the bootloader screen.
I already read through the JTLoader procedure but this is beyond my technical capabilities and I don't have material to do this.
So I hope someone can help me with this, otherwise I will need to contact my bank I'm afraid.
Thanks in advance guys !
Hi all
first post and i got an interesting problem with my phone which i qualify as stupid. It all started when when my virtually keyborad started becoming unresponsive and when i tried to do a factory reset, i could not enter the 1234 number to start it. i left the phone for a while and then i could not get into the setting even . But i could receive calls but i could not call since i could not access any numbers on the dial pad( by pressing on the numbers of coruse but from dial log screen i could)
Anyway long story short while fiddling with the phone , i thought the lock feature was on that is why some of the touch functions was not totally responsive but to my sadness, i activated the lock and now the phone is stuck on the front page and i cannot access anything since i must press unlock at the far corner of the down screen but stupidly, while pressing on the unlock, since it is unresponsive, i cannot unlock the phone to get to the normal menu and so on.The only thing working is the square pad which tells me to press cancel then unlock to free the phone for normal use
By the way the lock feature is the one that blocks the phone so that you do not accidentally press on the touch screen and activate a program and not the lock thing operators put to limit your phone
I want to know if anyone can help me unlock the screen so that i can reset the phone or alternatively any other method via usb to reset my phone to factory settings. Any special buttons on the phone i can do to do that?
I tired leaving battery out for 24 hours but that did not work to unfreeze the touch buttons
Was thinking to reload the windows mobile completely via the micro card (which i read here) but i am not sure it will work or i fear it might brick my phone
Any suggestions will be welcome please.... thanks
Use myMobiler to control device from Pc through usb
Good luck
Ps: you'll probably have to change digitiser afterwards
Well tried the mobiler but the thing is that it asks the phone to allow the program to conenct and i cannot press yes on the touch screen since it is frozen or something so i am stuck again.
Very strange, it doesn't ask anything on my device...
Why don't you hard reset: press green and red buttons and while pressing, poke the stylus shortly in the reset hole then release the 2 buttons. It will ask something that you probably won't see, just press the action button and wait for it to restart.
Don't flash another on just yet - it may well cause issues as it sounds like your digitizer is broken. Don't hard reset either
Does it pick up anything at all? Have you tried tapping all over the place in that region to try and get a response, sometimes just under the screen also works. Do you use a screen protector? If not, try it with one, if yes, try it without, it may be interferring with it, or it may help the touch be picked up by the phone (Stupid, I know, but this is something I found to work before with my elfs, and omnias)
When it is locked, is activesync picking the phone up? You may be able to put the remote.exe into the windows folder (for myMobilier) and do it that way.
A digitizer costs about £6-£10. But due to the age of this device, as sad as it is, I would suggest trying a new phone out if funds allow for it.
ok so far i tried the hard reset (red button and green and pressed the on off button but nothing. When i press on off button alone it switches off but not hard reset. I did not know i had a reset hole at the bottom of the phone.I did that with red and green button but nothing. Only when i poke the hole alone it does a hard reset i think but when i switches back on it is still unresponsive and locked screen
I tried poking under screen protector nothing. Also i think screen is still responsive because when i tap on it, the screen lights brighter
I tired putting remote exe file on the phone( active sync is working and i can read files on the phone) but i have two remote files..which one to use ? the one that ends with 40 one or 50 .Also where to put it specifically..which folder.I tried my windows mobile based device but nothing.Also tried program files and data application nothing.
Mobiler cannot connect since from pc alone because it asks my phone permission
and i cannot tap yes to accept program.
so any more suggestions please
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough, here's the exact procedure, it should work since you have to use only hardware buttons:
Hold down send/reject buttons (green/red at the front) and reset with the stylus; release the stylus but keep holding the buttons till you get 'this will erase all your personal data' message, then press 'action' (big front button) to hard reset.
If Hard reset doesn't work then your device hardware is faulty.
If he hard resets he will liekly not be able to align the screen on initial setup tito12.
Avanisha. If you try to run one of the remote.exe it will say this is not a valid windows application, thats the one that needs to go into windows on your phone.
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If he hard resets he will liekly not be able to align the screen on initial setup tito12.
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Hi captainstu72, i was under the impression that he messed up something in his system so a hard reset would hopefully solve the problem. In case he still can't align the screen after HR then he has to replace the digitiser. Mymobiler will not solve anything, pls read the 1st post: he wanted to do a factory reset. He just have to sync before HR.
thks tito 12..problem was solved with your help.J ust did not get the steps of hard reset right. Phone is working ok now and screen is ok as well as tap function. thank god i don't need a digitizer. thanks to captainstu72 for the help as well .You were right tito..seems i ran a program and then all hell broke on my phone. I wanted to factory reset but as you know the pad was locked.
Glad I could help, enjoy your device
Ahh okay, guess i mis read something! Sorry
Glad its all sorted though, I was just concerned he may end up in an annoying align screen loop