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Hi guys... I have the worst problem since I bought this brilliant device: I was playing with a game (installed on the mini SD), and when I tried to save it told me I had not enough storage space. Puzzled, I ended the game and went back to the normal pda functions...just to find out my SD is not recognized anymore. Zero, nada. Disappeared. Tried to get it out and in again (a million times), and I don't even get the sound I used to get. I tried fitting the minisd to the sd adapter and put it in an old zire: the card works!Everything is there. But the wizard won't recognize it anymore. Tried soft reset and it didn't help... Not so keen on hard resetting unless it is the only option but...I'm dazed...It doesn't see it anymore.I admit I was playing the game at 240 mhhz (overclocked) but I had played it a million times already and everything was smooth... PLEASE HELP!
same here im having this problem. it's annoying as hell!
same here im having this problem. it's annoying as hell!
I have had the problem of the memory card seemingly disappearing.
On checking closer, I noticed I had 'Storage Card' and 'Storage Card2'
Storage Card had one file on it and everything else was still on Storage Card2.
By deleting Storage Card abd soft reset, all was restored.
This has happened a couple of time.
If this happens to you, make sure you delete the right one.
Storage card
I've never unlocked the extended rom (Storage_card_2), so i have just Storage Card, a 1 Gig Sandisk mini SD. Still, it dissapears a couple of times a day, and i must soft reset my wizard to appear again. Very, very frustrating
Missing data
Something similar has happened to mine as well....
I turned my PDA on and accessed the storage card just like I do on any other day, only to find that all of the files had disappeared!! Everything had gone - but when I went into the memory setting, where it tells you how much space is used on the card it is still showing up as being half full i.e. the data is still there but not showing up on explorer!!
What is this all about??!! It has never happened to me before!!
Just wish I could offer an explanation on how to fix this...
You can probably read those files in Windows. This memory card disappearing problem seems to occur frequently with Wizard. Lookslike some program keeps corrupting the memory card.
Format the card in Windows and put it back in your phone, it will most likely work.
Format the card in Windows and put it back in your phone, it will most likely work.
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If you format the card, surely it will wipe everything that was on there in the first place..?!
There must be a way of retrieving those missing files somehow without resorting to formatting...
The weird thing is, today I transferred a single file from my desktop to the Sd card (whilst in my XDA) and suddenly some of the missing files appeared...?!
Now to find the rest of them....
I would love to have storage card 2 or something like that, but all I get is...the same behaviour I'd get if NO sd was in. I don't want to hard reset UNLESS somebody can confirm me this works...I am so desperate, it kinda looks like the sd reader is dead...all of a sudden! Please guys help...
I hard resetted and still it doesn't work...I'll take it to a shop to repair...I am totally disappointed!
I had this, the card came back after I just placed it in a card reader, browsed it on a pc, then replaced it in the phone.
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I had this, the card came back after I just placed it in a card reader, browsed it on a pc, then replaced it in the phone.
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ditto, it works if i do that too.
i think i found a fix, i formatted my card as FAT.
and so far it hasn't crapped out on my since.
see if it works for u guys too.
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I had this, the card came back after I just placed it in a card reader, browsed it on a pc, then replaced it in the phone.
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ditto, it works if i do that too.
i think i found a fix, i formatted my card as FAT.
and so far it hasn't crapped out on my since.
see if it works for u guys too.
What is do
It happens to me too - if I go into file explorer, I see storage_card and storage_card_2. The contents of storage_card_2 are exactly those of my SD. If I delete storage_card, remove and re-insert my SD, storage_card_2 disappears and storage_card is as it should be...
It was an sd problem...as soon as I have formatted it started to work again...
hope that sorts it for you guys if you have this annoying problem...
I've just took delivery of my Kingston 1GB MicroSD card and all is not going well.
Using TomTom on it causes the entire phone to hang. This can happen is various places, there seems to be no real pattern to it. It can hang when running the initial config screens or if you manage to get passed them it will always hang when trying to enter a street/city name. Normally I can get a few characters in to typing the name and then it will freeze. Only a soft reset will bring it back.
I've tried formatting the card on the PC as FAT and FAT32 but neither seem to improve things.
Anyone else had issues with reading from MicroSD cards hanging their phone - up until installing the card the phones been rock solid?
BTW: It's a SPV M3100. Nothing else is installed - it's just been hard reset
I was having numerous problems with the phone freezing. The famous sleep of death whereby if was left charging overnight it would freeze up only a soft reset will sort it out.
I narrowed it down to the micro sd card or the SPV3100 handling of it. I have a 1gb Sandisk Ultra II. I discovered that if I had a program loaded onto the sd card & the phone had to access it for whatever reason, in my case Fizz Traveller & an RSS reader the phone would just freeze up.
Another problem is everytime I take the sd card out & put it back in, the phone doesn't see it until a soft reset.
Obviously this could be just the phone not compatible with the sd card but I don't have a different brand to try out. But I tend to think its a bug with the phone itself.
hmm doesn't sound too clever.
Assuming it is a bug with the phone itself I wonder if trying one of the other roms might be a course of action? Trouble is there's no way back yet until Orange release a update. Could really do with my GPS working though :-(
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Another problem is everytime I take the sd card out & put it back in, the phone doesn't see it until a soft reset.
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I think that this is normal for the Hermes. That's the way it works on my Vario II.
I believe the problem with TomTom hanging is due to the software being a little slow at reading the names database from the card. This happens to me on occasion, but if you wait a little while it comes back. I'm using a SanDisk 2Gb card and most other software works fine. It's entirely possible that these problems will be fixed with a future firmware update, as I think it's just a matter of teething problems on a new system. In my case, 2Gb cards weren't even widely available when the Hermes was designed.
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zen123 said:
Another problem is everytime I take the sd card out & put it back in, the phone doesn't see it until a soft reset.
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I've got TTN5 working on my SPV no problems at all. Took less than 10mins to transfer the files from my old sd card to the new one & load the Nav5.21 program onto the phone. Even after numerous hard resets & 3 different phones.
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Hi all.
Got a problem I hope you all get help me with. It's not directly my problem as my device is OK. My cousin's Ameo has a fault/problem with his Micro Drive.
I have hard reset his WM5 based Ameo but cannot format the hard drive (MD). I've even flashed the WM6 T-Mob005 ROM to it (doesn't need unlocking before flashing). That all went to plan, but still cannot format the MD. The types of error messages I get are:
1) Unable to access Micro drive...there has been a sharing violation
2) Ensure the Micro drive is not in use...
And many other messages relating to the same thing...the MD is somehow locked and will not allow anything to be deleted from it or written to it. It's similar I suppose to a SD card being manually locked by the little slide button on it.
Anyway I've tried Flash Format, Ontrack Easy Recovery and several other 3rd party apps including SKTools and Pocket Mechanic Pro...all have the same problem but display different messages which mean the same thing...cannot access the MD..or exclusive access denied..please ensure the drive is not in use etc etc...I've tried through various apps to shut down any running processes that relate to any activity on the MD, but as the device was hard reset and flashed with a new ROM, there can be no apps running from the MD as none have been installed to it.
Finally of some importance I believe; It takes along time to delete even the smallest file from the Micro Drive even though a message pops up that access is denied..it deletes it nonetheless. However on resetting the device..all is back on the MD as if nothing had ever been deleted!
Also tried Recover MD and Format MD from the built-in app and tried formatting using the Resco Explorer version. Oh yeah tried various PC tools to format the MD via WM5torage, but to no avail.
I think the MD is screwed (physically), God knows this device of my cousins has been dropped numerous times. LoL, but seriously, if it's not due to misuse, then it can potentially happen to any one of us who have the spinning mechanical MD, hence my determination to resolve it before it happens to me or anyone else.
Anybody here knowledgeable in the area of Micro Drives or even hard drives to shed some light on this problem?
Thanks for any feedback.
More developments!
Another interesting point is that the Micro Drive folder is dated 1/1/98.....under Resco Explorer. Go figure!??!
Still at a loss. Meanwhile Olipro's Athena Unlocker worked a treat from beginning to end and it now has the Dopod U1000 WM6 ROM...so it's fully unlocked...yet the MD issue remains..hmmmmm.
if the microdrive is anything like a hard drive, with spining platters, it wouldnt last very long for day to day use, ive heard of hard drives getting goosed very easily, with a slight knock. I know the ameo is ment to have a fail safe if you drop it. but if yove tried everything you say I would have to guess it was f*ck*d.
I read your post again, I assume the on board software is the same as doing a hard reset with formating the drive!
when you run wm5torage I assume you can see the drive, if youve tried to delete files I assume you can access the drive. Just cant format.
I had the opposite 2 nights ago copying 2 films 1 copyed the other one went through the motion but never got copyed.
a program for the pc that helped me a couple of times was called Swisknife, its like partition magic only free.
I cant think of anything else, ive been out of computers to long now.
Can you copy files from the drive!
Oh well...the journey continues..
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if the microdrive is anything like a hard drive, with spinning platters, it wouldn't last very long for day to day use, I've heard of hard drives getting goosed very easily, with a slight knock. I know the ameo is meant to have a fail safe if you drop it. but if you've tried everything you say I would have to guess it was f*ck*d.
I read your post again, I assume the on board software is the same as doing a hard reset with formating the drive!
when you run wm5torage I assume you can see the drive, if you've tried to delete files I assume you can access the drive. Just cant format.
I had the opposite 2 nights ago copying 2 films 1 copied the other one went through the motion but never got copied.
a program for the pc that helped me a couple of times was called Swissknife, its like partition magic only free.
I cant think of anything else, ive been out of computers to long now.
Can you copy files from the drive!
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Hi johnwalk & thanks for your reply.
All of your assumptions were correct. I can even copy from the MD but not copy to it and it's very slow indeed.
I tried the swissknife app but none of the versions would start up on my PC..hmmm somethings a miss with my PC me thinks.
I managed to delete 'ALL' the files of the MD through WM5torage, but a soft reset of the device puts it all back again. Here I've included a screen-shot of some the crap I saw for the first time today (look at the dates of the files!??! Weird ah?), but it's all gone again now and returned to the normal looking files that I'm trying to get rid of.
Don't worry, I have no expectations, but do appreciate the help you've given me.
Cheers
if you can see the microdrive in windows try and run a program called killdisk on it if you dont care about the data that is on there and after that try and format it. killdisk will write all zero's to the drive killing any data on it. You could also try running scandisk and making it check every sector and try to repair bad sectors if it finds any.
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if you can see the microdrive in windows try and run a program called killdisk on it if you dont care about the data that is on there and after that try and format it. killdisk will write all zero's to the drive killing any data on it. You could also try running scandisk and making it check every sector and try to repair bad sectors if it finds any.
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that won't work. and can't.
what I suggest doing is holding the volume slider down and pushing in the reset hole, first perform the device reset, then the microdrive reset.
if that does nothing, go into bootloader and use mtty to issue the following commands;
task 28 55aa
task 28 55aa abcd
task 28 abcd
task 8
see if that gets you anywhere
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if you can see the microdrive in windows try and run a program called killdisk on it if you dont care about the data that is on there and after that try and format it. killdisk will write all zero's to the drive killing any data on it. You could also try running scandisk and making it check every sector and try to repair bad sectors if it finds any.
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Thanks for the help mate, but no software can write to the darn MD.
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that won't work. and can't.
what I suggest doing is holding the volume slider down and pushing in the reset hole, first perform the device reset, then the microdrive reset.
if that does nothing, go into bootloader and use mtty to issue the following commands;
task 28 55aa
task 28 55aa abcd
task 28 abcd
task 8
see if that gets you anywhere
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Much appreciate the help Olipro...didn't wanna bother you for a few.....
Nonetheless, it didn't work in formatting the hard drive, only the device.
I swear the things possessed.
The message I get all to frequently after trying to format it is: The Microdrive cannot be formatted, there has been a sharing violation. The Microdrive may be in use.
The picture of your screen shot is what I've had several times on mini sd cards. I can't remember how it happened. im sure it was copying files. of course I could just take out the card. which is of no help here. the first time it happened I was convinced it was the magnet.
mackaby007,
Looking at you screenshot, i can say that ive seen this on my own advantage. I wasn't trying to add/remove any files, just browse the drive. I remember it was bloody slow, too. It wad taking a good minute to show the folder tree every time I browsed to a new folder. Im not sure what caused it, but thankfully, a soft-reset solved the problem.
I know that's not much help to you, but thought it may be a story worth sharing. Hope you get it sorted
Thanks for all your feedback guys, I appreciate it.
Unfortunately, nothing I have tried so far has even come close to working. Well I've got until Saturday to fix it, then my cousin will take it back fixed or otherwise.
Suppose he'll have to invest in a 4GB miniSDHC card until this MD issue can be resolved. Still got to call Hitachi as they have some tools on their website that might help restore the MD.
I'll keep you informed of any developments. Hopefully this is not a common occurrence on Athenas.
Does anyone know if the 8GB miniSDHC cards are available yet? I can only find the 4gig ones.
Same Issue, Same device
Yeh, I've had the same error message but I fortunately had a program on the device that will format the MD. The error message occured when attempting this so I reset the device and went back to the same program and selected the "Restore MicroDrive" function which rebooted the PDA then asked if I want to format the storage card. Tapped "Yes" and all was well.
I have had quite a few problems with this device as I know of at least 20 people who use it and have had either the same problem or similar. For example sometimes, for no reason, all the critical data on the MD becomes corrupt and shows just the "Voices" folder from TomTom6 with "collected.ini" and an obviously corrupted file with a weird filename. Sometimes a few soft resets and fully turning off and on will bring it to a point where simply creating a new folder will bring back all lost folders.
Go figure...hope this post helps.
MasterASSET
i am a ardent fan of this site and a regular visitor since i brought my htc touch hd, i am living in Australia bought the phone when i went to India last month. this is my very first windows mobile, the phone was working like a charm till the time i accidentally reset the phone by clicking clear storage. i thought it was like emptying the recycle bin in windows vista, the phone asked me to type the numbers from 1 to 4 which i did and everything changed from that time. the phone is abnormally slow and often hangs, leting me down when i need it. of late i am not able to sync the phone with the system as it is not getting recognized my sd card.ophra does not work as like most of the applications. i tried to format my 8 gb sd card which came along the phone, but the fate is still the same. will a hard reset help me?
my rom is: 1.18.707.3(23358) wwe
radio version: 1.09.25.14
i am a novice person as far as phones are concerned, i don't meddle with it
help in this regard is much appreciated.
regards,
gokul.mb
Yes, you should try a hard reset. Remember to backup any data that you have entered in the phone, hopefully you will be able to sync to do that. If I understand, you deleted the 'internal storage', am I right? Maybe some programs are storing executables, DLL files or other stuff there and all of them stopped working when you 'cleared' storage. Btw, where is that 'clear storage' option in the menu?
It's in System Settings I think.
Isn't Clear Storage a hard reset?
yeah its the one found in settings under the tab system, i think i did a hard reset by do it. thats what i found from the forums, while i was reading a few hours back. i dont know what to do now, also read it some where that installing .net 3.5 and change the settings using a reg editor, later install sd card tune up cab will improve the performance considerably. which registry editor do you suggest? thanks for your replies....
I had similar issue with my Touch HD, but it happend after i took a picture (one of many) with the camera. I did a hard reset, but that did not help. Try removing the SD card, because in my case the problem was that something had gone wrong with that picture and the phone could not read it properly and display it in the Photos and Videos section ot the TouchFlo 3D (or at least that what I think was the reason ). Anyway, that worked for me - glad if it works for you too.
P.S. Forget to mention that after deleting that picture (with SD card reader - I could not do it in the File Explorer on Touch HD) everything went back to normal.
omg i solved my problem atlast....... thanks to all who gave me suggestions about this problem. i hard reset the phone after formating my sd card. now the phone runs like a wild horse...faster than before.
Good to hear.......Now jump on that sucker and get moding......yeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaa
Some things I have discovered about the DVP:
If you turn the dvp off and pull the microSd card out and start the phone back up then:
1. The phone will still work 100% without the microSD card. It just won’t remember anything after a reboot. This includes settings, typed words, etc.
2. If you take the microsd card out and do a hard reset, the phone won’t go through the normal setup. It will boot straight into WP7 without any tmobile customization. You basically get the Vanila version of WP7- complete stock.
3. Somehow after removing the microsd card, I was able to get web2go to work for a quick second loading up desktop google.com- after that, no other pages worked. I was forced to the page telling me to upgrade. No go on Web2Go here.
Removal of the sd card isn’t just some regular sticker you can put back on after you’re done. It’s some kind of painted sticker that shreds – think of it like a broken Christmas ornament where the paint is stripped. You bend the sticker, the stickers’ paint cracks.
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Edit: after poking around a little more ive discovered:
1. DVP does not need a microSd card at all to be 100% functional. It operates without one completely fine in terms of performance, speed, etc.
This was how I tested it:
a. Put mSD card in.
b. Hard rest (factory reset under settings) the device
c. When the device restarts and goes to the blackout/dead screen, remove the battery
d. Pull the mSD card out.
e. Put battery back in
f. Push and hold power button to turn on and allow device to complete the hard reset.
It will begin with the full setup WP7 installation. All tmobile apps will be restored. Everything is the same except that no microSD card will be present; I have found this to not be hindering anything as far as my testing goes. Everything works including data, wifi and calls. Im pretty sure music storage would be a problem, but I didn’t test downloading more than 2 songs in market.
The microSD card is just storage. The device works 100% without it. Yes eventually you’ll be hindered by the amount of stuff you can put on the dvp, still that is a storage problem.
I have no knowledge how the dvp integrates with the sd card. But I guess it must be important since we aren’t to remove it.
BTW, after removal of the mSD card from the DVP, my computer can’t seem to recognize it. I can’t even format it since it can’t be detected. It’s so odd. I’ll try to dig more to see if I can make the mSD card useful in some other way.
Let me know what you guys think.
More Interesting things:
Without the microSd card, the device reports
405.03MB total
336.96MB Available
if my math is correct,
68.28MB is used to install the entire WP7 OS + some tmobile apps.
How cool!
What i dont understand is if there is internal storage (its obviously not RAM since it can now remember things after a reboot), why doesnt dell use it to store the OS and use microSD card to store apps, music, etc.??
That's awesome and gives us more hope for further digging. Were you able to use the device as storage device with the reg tweaks and see the folders? If so, how much capacity does Windows drive property show?
to get that sd card to show up on computer just format it using a dumb nokia phone
lemonspeakers said:
More Interesting things:
Without the microSd card, the device reports
405.03MB total
336.96MB Available
if my math is correct,
68.28MB is used to install the entire WP7 OS + some tmobile apps.
How cool!
What i dont understand is if there is internal storage (its obviously not RAM since it can now remember things after a reboot), why doesnt dell use it to store the OS and use microSD card to store apps, music, etc.??
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The OS is probably stored in ROM. Interestingly, the DVP is listed by phonearena.com as having 1GM of ROM, which is more than almost all other WP7 devices currently released. Of course, you have to take those specs with a grain of salt since phonearena.com also lists RAM as 512MB.
@notebookgrail,
you're gonna have to link me to the registry tweaks. id love to check it out!
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The OS is probably stored in ROM. Interestingly, the DVP is listed by phonearena.com as having 1GM of ROM, which is more than almost all other WP7 devices currently released. Of course, you have to take those specs with a grain of salt since phonearena.com also lists RAM as 512MB.
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It is early in the life of this OS, so EVERYTHING needs salt. The DVP may indeed have 512MB of RAM; this hasn't been conclusively disproven.
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@notebookgrail,
you're gonna have to link me to the registry tweaks. id love to check it out!
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http://blogs.technet.com/b/juanand/...ying-with-windows-phone-7-as-usb-storage.aspx
we need to find out how to use hardware buttons to do hard reset; if you are unlucky like me, when you replaced the sdcard and it went bad, there is no way for you to pop another card in and do hard reset on that card
htc and samsung phones all have a bootloader hard reset menu accessible during boot via combination of key presses, hopefully venue pro does have one
try holding down the camera button + volume down button then press power.
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try holding down the camera button + volume down button then press power.
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doesnt work. it will tell you to plug ur phone into usb + computer. The only way to exit that screen is to remove battery.
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try holding down the camera button + volume down button then press power.
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would you try it yourself before making such suggestion? i did every possible key combination with the volume and camera keys, all come up empty... and i really wish i dont need to do so for the qwerty keyboard
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would you try it yourself before making such suggestion? i did every possible key combination with the volume and camera keys, all come up empty... and i really wish i dont need to do so for the qwerty keyboard
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when I do that button combo on my DVP I see a "plug the phone into your PC" graphic. when I do so, Zune pops up and give me an error message (related to another issue) that it is unable to restore my phone. It looks like somehow Zune has an important role in performing the hardware master reset.
You don't see anything like this?
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when I do that button combo on my DVP I see a "plug the phone into your PC" graphic. when I do so, Zune pops up and give me an error message (related to another issue) that it is unable to restore my phone. It looks like somehow Zune has an important role in performing the hardware master reset.
You don't see anything like this?
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thats not the hard reset menu. htc has the bootloader option to perform factory reset in the case of the OS would not bootup, and also the option to connect the device to pc to perform restore (venue pro has this)
but since zune does not allow backup, the restore option is useless
If you set up your phone with a windows live account it gives you the option to remotely send a command erase your phone data and reset to factory defaults.
You need a windows live account and go to the windows live home screen.
mouseover "windows live" in the top left, then>devices>find this phone>erase
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You need a windows live account and go to the windows live home screen.
mouseover "windows live" in the top left, then>devices>find this phone>erase
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again, you need the phone to be functional to use this feature
im talking about device hangs at boot or boot looping, that requires hard reset without the OS being functional
theclueless said:
again, you need the phone to be functional to use this feature
im talking about device hangs at boot or boot looping, that requires hard reset without the OS being functional
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Ok, I didn't realize you had that serious of a problem. For some reason I thought you were trying to initialize a new sd card. The reset key combo will come out eventually.
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Ok, I didn't realize you had that serious of a problem. For some reason I thought you were trying to initialize a new sd card. The reset key combo will come out eventually.
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i was able to initiate the 32gb card using the setting->about->reset method when i first got the phone.
after a couple random crashes, the last time it was functional i was browsing the web, then the phone seemed hanged, then kicked me right back to the metro screen, but the phone no longer recognize the sdcard on the about screen; after reboot the phone got stuck on dell screen and would not startup, so i switch back to the original 8gb card, did not work either (boot-loop)
i pulled the card out, and it booted fine without any addition apps, and i try to initiate a reset, pulled battery, insert card, exact same symptoms with respected sdcards
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i was able to initiate the 32gb card using the setting->about->reset method when i first got the phone.
after a couple random crashes, the last time it was functional i was browsing the web, then the phone seemed hanged, then kicked me right back to the metro screen, but the phone no longer recognize the sdcard on the about screen; after reboot the phone got stuck on dell screen and would not startup, so i switch back to the original 8gb card, did not work either (boot-loop)
i pulled the card out, and it booted fine without any addition apps, and i try to initiate a reset, pulled battery, insert card, exact same symptoms with respected sdcards
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I was under the impression that on e a card was initiated it could not be used again in another device...though I did read something about formatting on a Symbian device. When you pull the card that is crashing did you try to restart the device with no card? Try it. After that shut down and put the original card back in