Does it work as a phone in portrait mode? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Hello everyone. I just got my universal last week and I've spent many happy hours since playing with it and trying to figure out how to work with it best. This forum has been very helpful and I appreciate all the effort that has collectively gone into the site over the years.
The one problem that I've been unable to solve, however, is that of using the phone in portrait (screen to cheek) mode.
1) Is this even possible? I've seen it referred to once or twice, but usually the conversation revolved around whether or not you'd want skin grease on your screen rather than if it were technically possible.
2) How do you get the speaker to activate? I'm assuming that that's a little speaker there in the middle of the device just above the screen in portrait mode. I've been able to use it as a phone with the clamshell closed, but as soon as I open it even slightly the thing goes silent and I can't hear anything until I either enable the speakerphone or close the clamshell again.
I'm wondering if I got a defective unit.
BTW, I'm now running jwrightmcps's latest wm6 rom package (2.02.00 wwe), but it was the same with the T-mobile wm5 rom that it shipped with.

1) The conversation is possible in both clamshell and the usual portrait(as referred by you, "screen to cheek") mode.
2) The 'little' speaker as mentioned by you, is the microphone(not the speaker). The speakers are on the right side(when in portrait mode).
To get the speakerphone activated, either press-n-hold the dial/answer button for 3secs or click on "speaker on" button on the phone screen

Hm, yeah. I have no trouble enabling the speakerphone in any orientation. Without that enabled, though, I can't hear anything at all when trying to use the phone in portrait mode. I guess this is the question I was asking -- is there a way to use the phone in portrait mode without resorting to speakerphone?
I was hoping that that microphone was a speaker because it's in the place that I would expect to put my ear.

Above the screen is the speaker, the little slit in the shell (under the screen in portrait mode) is the microphone.

It is a speaker (right next to the screen on the opposite side from the d-pad). They have a nasty habit of breaking.

Thanks fellas, that's what I was (kind of) hoping to hear. I guess mine's one of the broken ones. Time to pop it open and replace that then (I got it used and as-is, so I don't have the warranty option available). I'm getting a little tired of opening and closing the clamshell all the time to navigate through voicemail menus.

Answer the phone when it's already in portrait mode.

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Can i talk on a jasjar without opening the phone

i mean with the screen in inside position i am not able to talk and i heard somebody say it is possible so what is true
I'm sure this has been posted a hundred times before, but yes you can use the JasJar as a phone with the lid closed and the screen 'inside'.
There are the two buttons on the hinge for answering/rejecting a call, and the three little speaker holes are clearly visible on the 'outside' of the lid...
i tried it but no voice is coming from the speaker i even tried hard reset twice but still the same problem
sounds potentially like a hardware failure here, if you can here it in upright mode on the other speaker above the screen, in clam closed you should also be able to hear.

Okay to use a universal closed with screen hidden?

Apologies for the odd title, it's hard to convey the nature of my question without a long explanation.
I have an Alpine right now. My main peeve with it is the fact that screen & button lock gets turned off as soon as I receive a message or call, allowing me to open any number of programs and connections whilst the device is still sat in my pocket - a real PITA when I have to have it on silent when I'm in uni.
I should be getting a universal in a week or so.
I noticed that the universal can be closed in such a way that the screen is not exposed at all. What I was wondering was if it is practical to keep it in one's pocket like this (yeah I have big pockets), preventing any buttons/icons being pressed when I receive a message/call when it is in my pocket. Can one still normally receive messages and calls when it is like that, and still be able to answer them conveniently? Flipping the screen over to answer a call doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
Bottom line, is there anything I should know about using the phone like this?
With the screen closed you can still answer calls.
If you want to check who is ringing you can lift the screen to check the number and then just close the screen again and answer the call with the answer button on the spine of the Universal.
Another advantage of this is that the screen doesn't gunk up as the exterior of the Universal is pressed against your ear, not the screen as happens with the Alpine.
I think, to answer your question, it is possible that you once the device is "unlocked" active, or in sleep mode, pressing the "call" button that is external on the hinge, can activate and make telephone calls in advertantly. though it is unusual.
in relation to pocket, it just fits into a top shirt pocket. in baggy shorts, with its weight, it tends to bang around a bit. in jeans and pants, its a bit big.
overall, as a phone it is functional for receiving calls, if you just receive all. opening the screen to see is a bit of a pain after a while. Setting ring tones for specific callers helps to ease this. bluetooth headsets are also getting to a point of allowing caller id.
There is a heap of "issues" posted around the website and some dissatisfaction with the device. but i am perfectly happy with it, and does everything i wanted, except sufficient memory.
simon_darley said:
I think, to answer your question, it is possible that you once the device is "unlocked" active, or in sleep mode, pressing the "call" button that is external on the hinge, can activate and make telephone calls in advertantly. though it is unusual.
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Not a big deal to me, that is surely much less of an issue compared to my current problem with the unlocked screen. As for the pockets thing I don't think it will be a problem either, I'm used to the Alpine so I'm sure this won't be much of a big step.
Thanks for the responses guys, I'll be receiving mine tomorrow
My brother is getting my Alpine.
Edit: One more thing - does anyone know if my Alpine's car charger (3rd party, very cheap) will work with the universal or do I need to get a new one?

Earpiece problem.

recently the earpeice on the oustide of my M5000 has stopped working when the phone is in the closed position with the screen facing inwards, if i open the phone slightly so that the display somes on the speaker works again, there is no problem using the earpiece when in "pda" mode when the sceen is flipped to the outside.
any ideas?
its starting to drive me nuts as i always ues my phone in "laptop" mode, and make calls with the phone in closed position.
thanks.
Ryan.
sorry to bump, but i cant stand it any more.
I've been thinking about when it happened. i've got a feeling it was after making some registry changes, are there any keys that control how the phone behaves when the case is opened and shut?

G-off Display

"Description:
With G-off display you can turn off the screen by rotating and holding the phone upside down and holding it like that for a second.
To save battery while listen to your favorite music, simply point your phone downward, light off. All background processes remain.
Require G-sensor found in the latest HTC devices like Diamond / Pro / HD, etc."
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Just what I need! but...
Hi
This is a nice app that i've wanted. I know I could use Changescreen as it has a similar feature, but a standalone like this is more preferable for me...
But I just can't download from Rapidshare...
Is it possible to load the .cab here since its only 345kb? or a mirror to somewhere else...
Anyways, Thanks for pointing this App out...
bulletproof_78 said:
Hi
But I just can't download from Rapidshare...
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I haven't got any problem downloading
thanks a million bro...
Works like a Charm!!!!
Installed on my TP doesnt seem to work and no progam icon to make any type of changes?
great idea. tried on my Omnia, works fine. but screen powers on only with Power button
installed on my touch pro, but doesnt seem to do anything any ideas, would really like to have it working am on WM6.5 if that makes any difference...
cheers!
Installed on my Diamond
it's ok
After a call is not working so
only works after soft reset.
Anyone same problem? solution?
Thejackal_71 said:
After a call is not working so
only works after soft reset.
Anyone same problem? solution?
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Same problem here. I have to kill it with task manager and run it again It's faster then softreset...
Hello
how about battery drain pls?
not working on HTC Rhodium (TP2) - also I can't see it in programs, etc. Do I need to do anything else after install?
I got a question are there any options? like on conference call (when using loud speakers - device is upside down), will it ignore the g-off? Because I am not sure what would happend if I would press POWER BUTTON in the middle of the call just to get the screen back ..
Not working in my Touch Pro, too
Using latest WinMobile 6.5.21935.
I also did a softreset after installation!
Mashe said:
not working on HTC Rhodium (TP2) - also I can't see it in programs, etc. Do I need to do anything else after install?
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You don't see it. But it is there. Go to the Program Files and the directory with the same name. Click once on it, and tune the device upside down. It will switch it off.Not ON again.
You can link to it.
I got a question are there any options? l..
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No options. no nothing! It does work on my TD 1
origin of g-off display
Beware! I am NOT the programmer. I don't know who is either. I just found it.
btw ChangeScreen has a "display off" option too.
worked on the tilt 2
it needs dot net compact framework 3.5 and then it loads on startup... closing the title bar that comes up doesn't seem to stop it from working. however, having said this, i can't say that perhaps the tilt 2 didn't have the behavior before i installed this... it took me a while to realize that upside down doesn't mean face down, which is what i had wanted. but having said that, turning it upside down works great because you can put it in your pocket upside down (which basically you might do anyway).
also, indeed, to get it back on, one has to push the power button. but that's good in case the device moves out of tolerance for downward position it won't be going on and off unintentionally--except that even after the screen is already off it will keep executing--i know this because it vibrates when the screen goes off as well, and if i take it out of upside down position and then put it back without turning screen on again, it will vibrate again. this said, walking with it in a pocket didn't seem to keep triggering it, so overall this is a really cool hack.
now for figuring out why my t2 doesn't turn its speakerphone on when placed face down during a call (i was thinking face down should always turn the screen off by way of proximity sensor--which does work on my device because during a call holding finger over ear speaker turns off the display--just doesn't turn speaker on). wait... just realized... if it did then it would have to assume that just putting it to the ear should turn on speaker. so, i'd say what we have here is a challenge... integrate the proximity sensing with the g-sensor to always turn off the display when face down on a flat, reasonably level surface-- and during a call turn on the speaker too.
if this can be done, then combined with the g-off existing functionality it'd be really sweet--i wouldn't have to turn it upside down _before_ placing it flat on a table while listening to music. and the proximity could help make it less worrysome to just automatically turn the screen back on when picked up.
worked on the tilt 2
it needs dot net compact framework 3.5 and then it loads on startup... closing the title bar that comes up doesn't seem to stop it from working. however, having said this, i can't say that perhaps the tilt 2 didn't have the behavior before i installed this... it took me a while to realize that upside down doesn't mean face down, which is what i had wanted. but having said that, turning it upside down works great because you can put it in your pocket upside down (which basically you might do anyway).
also, indeed, to get it back on, one has to push the power button. but that's good in case the device moves out of tolerance for downward position it won't be going on and off unintentionally--except that even after the screen is already off it will keep executing--i know this because it vibrates when the screen goes off as well, and if i take it out of upside down position and then put it back without turning screen on again, it will vibrate again. this said, walking with it in a pocket didn't seem to keep triggering it, so overall this is a really cool hack.
now for figuring out why my t2 doesn't turn its speakerphone on when placed face down during a call (i was thinking face down should always turn the screen off by way of proximity sensor--which does work on my device because during a call holding finger over ear speaker turns off the display--just doesn't turn speaker on). wait... just realized... if it did then it would have to assume that just putting it to the ear should turn on speaker. so, i'd say what we have here is a challenge... integrate the proximity sensing with the g-sensor to always turn off the display when face down on a flat, reasonably level surface-- and during a call turn on the speaker too.
if this can be done, then combined with the g-off existing functionality it'd be really sweet--i wouldn't have to turn it upside down _before_ placing it flat on a table while listening to music. and the proximity could help make it less worrysome to just automatically turn the screen back on when picked up.
sorry for the duplicate post above--tried to edit, then hit save by accident
edit... i just tried screenchange and it in theory seems to do exactly what i want, but in practice, with 2.78 and any sensitivity level and appropriate no light option checked, it turns off the display even if there is light (and lots of it to be sure). i hold the device upside down above my head and the display goes off. i'm not covering the proximity sensor. my proximity sensor does work when in a phone call. i tried rebooting. i think the proximity sensor may be off somehow on my device...maybe htc only wants it on in a phone call? i will have to see if screenchange will work right with the device in a phone call... further posts will go over with screenchange.
btw, regarding the forum... its annoying that my edit made a whole new post in the first place.
cool!!!thanks

[Q] app for incoming call mute when phone is placed screen down.

Hello, I was Htc desire user for a while (more than 2.5 years ). And I am used to mute incoming calls flipping my phone screen down on the table. And now I can`t find any good solutions for nexus 4. Tried Flip4Silence but it is to sensitive even with the lowest sensitive settings. So it mutes when the phone is not completely flipped screen down. For example it mutes when I am taking it from my pouch, or from my pocket. Other apps tends only to toggle silent mode, when telephone is flipped in display down position. But they are far more accurate, than flip4silence.
Any ideas?
vukis said:
Hello, I was Htc desire user for a while (more than 2.5 years ). And I am used to mute incoming calls flipping my phone screen down on the table. And now I can`t find any good solutions for nexus 4. Tried Flip4Silence but it is to sensitive even with the lowest sensitive settings. So it mutes when the phone is not completely flipped screen down. For example it mutes when I am taking it from my pouch, or from my pocket. Other apps tends only to toggle silent mode, when telephone is flipped in display down position. But they are far more accurate, than flip4silence.
Any ideas?
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AOKP has the feature built in so if you're looking for a custom rom, I would suggest switching to that. Besides that I'm unsure of any other programs that may allow you to do the same.
evonc said:
AOKP has the feature built in so if you're looking for a custom rom, I would suggest switching to that. Besides that I'm unsure of any other programs that may allow you to do the same.
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Thanks. But I am looking for an app. I will stick to rooted stock for a while.
I am 100% that apps could do that, because my mentioned Flip4Silence could do that, but it is to sensitive and inaccurate.

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