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i mean with the screen in inside position i am not able to talk and i heard somebody say it is possible so what is true
I'm sure this has been posted a hundred times before, but yes you can use the JasJar as a phone with the lid closed and the screen 'inside'.
There are the two buttons on the hinge for answering/rejecting a call, and the three little speaker holes are clearly visible on the 'outside' of the lid...
i tried it but no voice is coming from the speaker i even tried hard reset twice but still the same problem
sounds potentially like a hardware failure here, if you can here it in upright mode on the other speaker above the screen, in clam closed you should also be able to hear.
Hi,
When i first setup my Exec using personal mode, the answer and hangup buttons on the hinge woudl illuminate when a call came in (when the unit is closed like a laptop). Now i am using it in corporate mode, the LED's don't illuminate. They only illuminate when the screen is rotated into PDA mode.
I am assuming this is a reg hack. Does anybody know what it is? or has anybody else got this problem?
Cheers
Paul
They don't illuminate when the device is closed, only when you have the screen open or facing outwards.
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They don't illuminate when the device is closed, only when you have the screen open or facing outwards.
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And very annoying it is too - especially when both buttons look so similar when not illuminated. This must be hackable?
This has got to be one of the most annoying features of the exec.
Also i have found that if the device is closed, MSVC does not recognise anything you say when activated via BT.
I have never really played with the device in personal mode as the GUI is bollox so cannot comment on if the buttons light up or not when the device is closed. But what i do know is that when it is closed the screen is switched off as if the device is in standby mode, maybe this has something to do with it.
I try to memorize the position of the green button in relation to how I always hold the phone and feel for it like a Braille board. So far I get it 75% of the time.
is anybody using the 'Personal' install on their exec? can they confirm if the LED's are illuminated or not when the phone rings when it is closed?
Cheers
Paul
Someone who's actually opened the Universal may be able to confirm this, but I suspect that the answer/hang up buttons on the hinge don't actually have LED's. I believe that they simply use the light from the screen's backlight to illuminate. As near as I can tell, they're only on when the screen backlight is on.
If that is the case, then there probably won't be a way to get them to illuminate when the case is closed, unless someone can figure out how to get the backlight to stay on when the case is closed (which would also be a big battery waster)
Brett
Yup, i can confirm this. I've just removed the cover on the top of the hinge. There is one wrapped cable coming out of the base at the right hand side. This then splits off, the main part goes up into the pivot hole, and a thinner wrapped wire brakes away from this and attaches to a small pcb which has the buttons and the LED's mounted on it.
Yes, the buttons are only illuminated when the backlight is on, but the brightness of the buttons remains constant even when the backlight brightness is turned down.
Cheers
Paul
As far as I see it, even if the backlight has to come on that wouldn't be a problem - after all, the phone is waking up in order to ring. I also often open up the screen slightly to see who's calling, then close it and press the answer button - therefore switching on the backlight initially would actually save time!
Maybe somebody knows of a "wake-on-ring" hack :lol:
I've just noticed it with my new Qtek 9000 and I was very worried, because I thought my device is broken.
But now I know this is "normal", but it's very annoying :?
I wish I had this problem! .. since yesterday my JJ seems to have those lights permanently on even when I switch the device off
Guys, I've made a program that will keep the hinge leds on all the time.
Actually this is an accidental discovery for a program I'm working on for this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37201&highlight=
Those guys want to be able to use the keys and phone functions with the lid closed.
I'll post more in that thread, but basically closing the lid puts the hardware keys in a special state such that they are not responsive at all until the device is woken internally (eg by an incoming phone call). Actually, can someone confirm that the hinge keys work when a call comes in but the lid is closed. I presume they must, since they don't do anything else!
So, the hinge lights are on when the screen is on. But the screen is switched off when the lid reaches about 10 degrees to closing. But the hinge lights can be kept on nevertheless
Grem: are you using TCPMP or a similar program to play music etc in the background? Anything that tries to keep the phone "on" when the lid is closed will keep the hinge lights on.
V
Hi vijay555
I've actually just done a complete cold re-boot and reflashed to the original i-mate factory ROM to see if that would help, then came here in search of anyone having a similar issue.
It started yesterday, i suspect I've had an internal meltdown somewhere, plugged it into sync, noticed a few minutes later it had randomly done a warm reset and appeared stuck on the blue i-mate screen, picked it up and the sucker was hotter than an AMD without a heatsink! I suspect it's warranty time for this unit
Grem, that's worrying. What were you doing at the time? What brand/operator etc is the phone? It might be worth posting batch numbers or whatever for people that have this kind of problem so we can identify if some are worse then others.
V
It's an i-mate straight from the wholesaler no particular operator. Had it a couple of months, have seen other reports on the forum here which sound perhaps similar in that they've overheated.
Hello everyone. I just got my universal last week and I've spent many happy hours since playing with it and trying to figure out how to work with it best. This forum has been very helpful and I appreciate all the effort that has collectively gone into the site over the years.
The one problem that I've been unable to solve, however, is that of using the phone in portrait (screen to cheek) mode.
1) Is this even possible? I've seen it referred to once or twice, but usually the conversation revolved around whether or not you'd want skin grease on your screen rather than if it were technically possible.
2) How do you get the speaker to activate? I'm assuming that that's a little speaker there in the middle of the device just above the screen in portrait mode. I've been able to use it as a phone with the clamshell closed, but as soon as I open it even slightly the thing goes silent and I can't hear anything until I either enable the speakerphone or close the clamshell again.
I'm wondering if I got a defective unit.
BTW, I'm now running jwrightmcps's latest wm6 rom package (2.02.00 wwe), but it was the same with the T-mobile wm5 rom that it shipped with.
1) The conversation is possible in both clamshell and the usual portrait(as referred by you, "screen to cheek") mode.
2) The 'little' speaker as mentioned by you, is the microphone(not the speaker). The speakers are on the right side(when in portrait mode).
To get the speakerphone activated, either press-n-hold the dial/answer button for 3secs or click on "speaker on" button on the phone screen
Hm, yeah. I have no trouble enabling the speakerphone in any orientation. Without that enabled, though, I can't hear anything at all when trying to use the phone in portrait mode. I guess this is the question I was asking -- is there a way to use the phone in portrait mode without resorting to speakerphone?
I was hoping that that microphone was a speaker because it's in the place that I would expect to put my ear.
Above the screen is the speaker, the little slit in the shell (under the screen in portrait mode) is the microphone.
It is a speaker (right next to the screen on the opposite side from the d-pad). They have a nasty habit of breaking.
Thanks fellas, that's what I was (kind of) hoping to hear. I guess mine's one of the broken ones. Time to pop it open and replace that then (I got it used and as-is, so I don't have the warranty option available). I'm getting a little tired of opening and closing the clamshell all the time to navigate through voicemail menus.
Answer the phone when it's already in portrait mode.
"Description:
With G-off display you can turn off the screen by rotating and holding the phone upside down and holding it like that for a second.
To save battery while listen to your favorite music, simply point your phone downward, light off. All background processes remain.
Require G-sensor found in the latest HTC devices like Diamond / Pro / HD, etc."
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Just what I need! but...
Hi
This is a nice app that i've wanted. I know I could use Changescreen as it has a similar feature, but a standalone like this is more preferable for me...
But I just can't download from Rapidshare...
Is it possible to load the .cab here since its only 345kb? or a mirror to somewhere else...
Anyways, Thanks for pointing this App out...
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But I just can't download from Rapidshare...
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I haven't got any problem downloading
thanks a million bro...
Works like a Charm!!!!
Installed on my TP doesnt seem to work and no progam icon to make any type of changes?
great idea. tried on my Omnia, works fine. but screen powers on only with Power button
installed on my touch pro, but doesnt seem to do anything any ideas, would really like to have it working am on WM6.5 if that makes any difference...
cheers!
Installed on my Diamond
it's ok
After a call is not working so
only works after soft reset.
Anyone same problem? solution?
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After a call is not working so
only works after soft reset.
Anyone same problem? solution?
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Same problem here. I have to kill it with task manager and run it again It's faster then softreset...
Hello
how about battery drain pls?
not working on HTC Rhodium (TP2) - also I can't see it in programs, etc. Do I need to do anything else after install?
I got a question are there any options? like on conference call (when using loud speakers - device is upside down), will it ignore the g-off? Because I am not sure what would happend if I would press POWER BUTTON in the middle of the call just to get the screen back ..
Not working in my Touch Pro, too
Using latest WinMobile 6.5.21935.
I also did a softreset after installation!
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not working on HTC Rhodium (TP2) - also I can't see it in programs, etc. Do I need to do anything else after install?
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You don't see it. But it is there. Go to the Program Files and the directory with the same name. Click once on it, and tune the device upside down. It will switch it off.Not ON again.
You can link to it.
I got a question are there any options? l..
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No options. no nothing! It does work on my TD 1
origin of g-off display
Beware! I am NOT the programmer. I don't know who is either. I just found it.
btw ChangeScreen has a "display off" option too.
worked on the tilt 2
it needs dot net compact framework 3.5 and then it loads on startup... closing the title bar that comes up doesn't seem to stop it from working. however, having said this, i can't say that perhaps the tilt 2 didn't have the behavior before i installed this... it took me a while to realize that upside down doesn't mean face down, which is what i had wanted. but having said that, turning it upside down works great because you can put it in your pocket upside down (which basically you might do anyway).
also, indeed, to get it back on, one has to push the power button. but that's good in case the device moves out of tolerance for downward position it won't be going on and off unintentionally--except that even after the screen is already off it will keep executing--i know this because it vibrates when the screen goes off as well, and if i take it out of upside down position and then put it back without turning screen on again, it will vibrate again. this said, walking with it in a pocket didn't seem to keep triggering it, so overall this is a really cool hack.
now for figuring out why my t2 doesn't turn its speakerphone on when placed face down during a call (i was thinking face down should always turn the screen off by way of proximity sensor--which does work on my device because during a call holding finger over ear speaker turns off the display--just doesn't turn speaker on). wait... just realized... if it did then it would have to assume that just putting it to the ear should turn on speaker. so, i'd say what we have here is a challenge... integrate the proximity sensing with the g-sensor to always turn off the display when face down on a flat, reasonably level surface-- and during a call turn on the speaker too.
if this can be done, then combined with the g-off existing functionality it'd be really sweet--i wouldn't have to turn it upside down _before_ placing it flat on a table while listening to music. and the proximity could help make it less worrysome to just automatically turn the screen back on when picked up.
worked on the tilt 2
it needs dot net compact framework 3.5 and then it loads on startup... closing the title bar that comes up doesn't seem to stop it from working. however, having said this, i can't say that perhaps the tilt 2 didn't have the behavior before i installed this... it took me a while to realize that upside down doesn't mean face down, which is what i had wanted. but having said that, turning it upside down works great because you can put it in your pocket upside down (which basically you might do anyway).
also, indeed, to get it back on, one has to push the power button. but that's good in case the device moves out of tolerance for downward position it won't be going on and off unintentionally--except that even after the screen is already off it will keep executing--i know this because it vibrates when the screen goes off as well, and if i take it out of upside down position and then put it back without turning screen on again, it will vibrate again. this said, walking with it in a pocket didn't seem to keep triggering it, so overall this is a really cool hack.
now for figuring out why my t2 doesn't turn its speakerphone on when placed face down during a call (i was thinking face down should always turn the screen off by way of proximity sensor--which does work on my device because during a call holding finger over ear speaker turns off the display--just doesn't turn speaker on). wait... just realized... if it did then it would have to assume that just putting it to the ear should turn on speaker. so, i'd say what we have here is a challenge... integrate the proximity sensing with the g-sensor to always turn off the display when face down on a flat, reasonably level surface-- and during a call turn on the speaker too.
if this can be done, then combined with the g-off existing functionality it'd be really sweet--i wouldn't have to turn it upside down _before_ placing it flat on a table while listening to music. and the proximity could help make it less worrysome to just automatically turn the screen back on when picked up.
sorry for the duplicate post above--tried to edit, then hit save by accident
edit... i just tried screenchange and it in theory seems to do exactly what i want, but in practice, with 2.78 and any sensitivity level and appropriate no light option checked, it turns off the display even if there is light (and lots of it to be sure). i hold the device upside down above my head and the display goes off. i'm not covering the proximity sensor. my proximity sensor does work when in a phone call. i tried rebooting. i think the proximity sensor may be off somehow on my device...maybe htc only wants it on in a phone call? i will have to see if screenchange will work right with the device in a phone call... further posts will go over with screenchange.
btw, regarding the forum... its annoying that my edit made a whole new post in the first place.
cool！！！thanks
Hi folks:
Sorry if this problem has been covered before. I ran a search to try to see if I could find someone having this problem and could not find it. This problem started all of a sudden (without any ROM updates or nothing).
This is it: I make a phone call, and immediately after I press "TALK" on the screen, the screen turns itself off, and I don't have access to the keypad, or any of the touchscreen functionality.
I tried pressing all the hardware buttons to see if the screen would come back on, but nothing, it stays off.
Then, when I hang up the call (by pressing "END CALL" on the screen), the screen comes back on and everything is back to normal.
Can anyone offer any clues to solve this? Thanks in advance.
is the phone near something? maybe your ear?
is anything in front of aproximity sensor? (upper left, near speaker)
DN41
Nope... I use a BT headset since I got it (this only started happening 2 days ago, and I've used this device for over a month now).
It also happens everywhere (in my room, outside in the street, etc).
Very puzzling... I am thinking of doing a hard reset, but want to see if anyone has had this happen before...
Does it happen when you don't use the headset?
Yes indeed, I had already checked that and ruled out that the headset was causing the issue.
have you recently installed a "screen protector" ? This happened to mine as i hadn't quite got the holes lined up for the proximity sensors.
thanks,
scater1983
This happened to me as well today. Had the phone for 3 months now and can't say I've noticed it before. I do have a screen protector which also covers the proximity sensor (no holes in that area), but this was like a month ago and I have had no problem accessing the screen during calls until today. I have made a couple of calls after the one I mentioned but didn't remember to check if the problem was still there. Will try to see on the next one
ive been able to just press a face button to bring the screen back up. of course mine turns off when i put it near my ear thats intended. i had an issue where the touchscreen would not work at all durung a call. the screen would be on but only the physical buttons could do anything. a hard reset fixed that
Yeap, coincidentally, I just installed a screen protector and a protective case (darn). I will try this without the case and report back.
Thank you !
Problem solved ..
Been trawling these forums for hours for a registry edit to fix screen blank when making a phone call - LOL - who would have thought it was the cheap plastic case I whacked on the other day!