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No LED on answer/hangup buttons on hinge

Hi,
When i first setup my Exec using personal mode, the answer and hangup buttons on the hinge woudl illuminate when a call came in (when the unit is closed like a laptop). Now i am using it in corporate mode, the LED's don't illuminate. They only illuminate when the screen is rotated into PDA mode.
I am assuming this is a reg hack. Does anybody know what it is? or has anybody else got this problem?
Cheers
Paul

They don't illuminate when the device is closed, only when you have the screen open or facing outwards.

hollinshead said:
They don't illuminate when the device is closed, only when you have the screen open or facing outwards.
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And very annoying it is too - especially when both buttons look so similar when not illuminated. This must be hackable?

This has got to be one of the most annoying features of the exec.
Also i have found that if the device is closed, MSVC does not recognise anything you say when activated via BT.
I have never really played with the device in personal mode as the GUI is bollox so cannot comment on if the buttons light up or not when the device is closed. But what i do know is that when it is closed the screen is switched off as if the device is in standby mode, maybe this has something to do with it.

I try to memorize the position of the green button in relation to how I always hold the phone and feel for it like a Braille board. So far I get it 75% of the time.

is anybody using the 'Personal' install on their exec? can they confirm if the LED's are illuminated or not when the phone rings when it is closed?
Cheers
Paul

Someone who's actually opened the Universal may be able to confirm this, but I suspect that the answer/hang up buttons on the hinge don't actually have LED's. I believe that they simply use the light from the screen's backlight to illuminate. As near as I can tell, they're only on when the screen backlight is on.
If that is the case, then there probably won't be a way to get them to illuminate when the case is closed, unless someone can figure out how to get the backlight to stay on when the case is closed (which would also be a big battery waster)
Brett

Yup, i can confirm this. I've just removed the cover on the top of the hinge. There is one wrapped cable coming out of the base at the right hand side. This then splits off, the main part goes up into the pivot hole, and a thinner wrapped wire brakes away from this and attaches to a small pcb which has the buttons and the LED's mounted on it.
Yes, the buttons are only illuminated when the backlight is on, but the brightness of the buttons remains constant even when the backlight brightness is turned down.
Cheers
Paul

As far as I see it, even if the backlight has to come on that wouldn't be a problem - after all, the phone is waking up in order to ring. I also often open up the screen slightly to see who's calling, then close it and press the answer button - therefore switching on the backlight initially would actually save time!

Maybe somebody knows of a "wake-on-ring" hack :lol:

I've just noticed it with my new Qtek 9000 and I was very worried, because I thought my device is broken.
But now I know this is "normal", but it's very annoying :?

I wish I had this problem! .. since yesterday my JJ seems to have those lights permanently on even when I switch the device off

Guys, I've made a program that will keep the hinge leds on all the time.
Actually this is an accidental discovery for a program I'm working on for this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37201&highlight=
Those guys want to be able to use the keys and phone functions with the lid closed.
I'll post more in that thread, but basically closing the lid puts the hardware keys in a special state such that they are not responsive at all until the device is woken internally (eg by an incoming phone call). Actually, can someone confirm that the hinge keys work when a call comes in but the lid is closed. I presume they must, since they don't do anything else!
So, the hinge lights are on when the screen is on. But the screen is switched off when the lid reaches about 10 degrees to closing. But the hinge lights can be kept on nevertheless
Grem: are you using TCPMP or a similar program to play music etc in the background? Anything that tries to keep the phone "on" when the lid is closed will keep the hinge lights on.
V

Hi vijay555
I've actually just done a complete cold re-boot and reflashed to the original i-mate factory ROM to see if that would help, then came here in search of anyone having a similar issue.
It started yesterday, i suspect I've had an internal meltdown somewhere, plugged it into sync, noticed a few minutes later it had randomly done a warm reset and appeared stuck on the blue i-mate screen, picked it up and the sucker was hotter than an AMD without a heatsink! I suspect it's warranty time for this unit

Grem, that's worrying. What were you doing at the time? What brand/operator etc is the phone? It might be worth posting batch numbers or whatever for people that have this kind of problem so we can identify if some are worse then others.
V

It's an i-mate straight from the wholesaler no particular operator. Had it a couple of months, have seen other reports on the forum here which sound perhaps similar in that they've overheated.

**Please develop this clever people**

I'm sure many people here agree that it's very annoying when you're speaking on the phone and your ear accidentally opens up windows and programs or even worse - ends the call!
Surely one of you very clever chaps can make an app that uses the light sensor so that the Diamond knows you are speaking and therefore locks the screen.
It would help so much,
S.

The clever people already did it but because we, normal people, are too lazy to search through, can´t see it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425650
...and this is just one example

I'm aware of this software but how does it work within phonecalls? I'm not talking about when the phone rings, I mean post-unlock during the phonecall...

read the post man, it`s not very large and you will find it like I did

The program doesn't do what I describe above, although the idea is brought up a few times in the thread. It can switch off the screen but i'm talking about the light sensor doing this automatically...

The Diamond already turns off the screen when you hold it to your ear (by using the light sensor)...

I thought the diamond shut off the screen on speaking/connecting the call? Plus, it doesn't turn back on without pressing the power button...

the light sensor is not sensitive enough for this use.

:-( Damn! That's a shame.

Blazeitup123 said:
the light sensor is not sensitive enough for this use.
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Interesting, the light sensor of my phone can do this. Initially, the screen turned off whenever I picked up a call. I found it annoying because many a times, I need to use the screen to key in some numbers (pin, a/c numbers, whatever). Then, I used Adv. Conf. to turn this feature off. And I found it even more annoying as I actually hanged up twice by my ear accidentally touching "end call" button. Now, I turned this back on again.... still annoying but less....
I think your light sensor should be able to do this. Maybe you can check this feature on Adv. Conf. to see if it's turned off by accident.

The only things that were turned off in adv.config were 'sleep during call' and 'fast sleep'. I have switched these on and the screen does switch off but is this due to the light sensor? I now use S2U2's feature to switch the screen off as it's faster (screen switches off on connection)...
But, with all these options, I also find it annoying when I have to key in my pin etc. That's why utilising the light sensor so when you take the phone away from your face it switches back on, would be great.

this is really funny! some ppl want this thing off and some ppl want this thing on.
for the record:
the diamond is by default switching off the screen after a few seconds. when i said the diamond i meant the light sensor.
now, from the history:
long, long time ago (about 3-4 months ) the devs here were trying to switch off this feature because if you have to dial one more number or want to switch yr speaker you'll face a black screen (just touch the middle/enter button and you are back in business). some said it is the light sensor, some said it is a timer.....mostly they tried by registry tweaks, don't even remember who was the first to succeed but it was a great victory ...hahahaha
today we have a few options. one of them (the most popular one i think) is schap's advanced configuration. another was is the famous twaek 3.2 (today is 5?).
on the last month we have a few ROMs that already had this tweak built in. i think our friend here has one of those ROMs of them (because he ha sit tweaked already).
m8 i think you can switch this option back to default (switch off the screen) with the advanced config tool.
this one is an example (i think this one was the first):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2278799&postcount=1-tweak no 8.
you can also look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406151&highlight=screen+call
or this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406094&highlight=screen+call
one more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415356&highlight=screen+call
and so on ....everything a search away (i used "screen+call")

Thanks for the post, my issue wasn't how to get the screen off during a call. It was what causes it to go off and if it is the light sensor, could an app be made so that when the phone is taken away from your face, the screen switches on again.

I agree. I would love it to switch off as default, but also TURN ON when I pull the phone away from my face... I can't understand why this is not the default behaviour. I have some time later on this month I will look at this more carefully and possibly program the solution.

Sprint Diamond
I agree that would be great. My screen on my Sprint Diamond has never turned off during a phone call. I didn't even know that was a feature on some diamonds until this thread. I have tried making a call and then covering the light sensor but nothing happens. So, here is my vote for the ability to get a screen that turns on and off as you put it to your ear and take it away.

just work exactly the same as iphone and the problem will be solved.......

Face Down Mute and Light Sensor

I am having problems with the face down mute and light sensor thing. I would love to be able to get these working.
I have tried Schaps Advanced Config, Diamond Tweak and Registry Edits.
I would like the device to go into mute (do not ring calls) when it is put face down
Also, I would like to disable the automatic screen going off on call and let the light sensor detect when it is close to my ear and turn the screen off...
Appreciate your help

I think there is no light or proximity sensor on the HD.

I do nothing and my HD goes silent if I turn it face down.

How.. How How How? ...

taimoorhusain said:
How.. How How How? ...
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I dont know, sorry. It´s simply working. As my HD arrives I do a Hardreset install my software and this works.

Atze001 said:
I dont know, sorry. It´s simply working. As my HD arrives I do a Hardreset install my software and this works.
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Couldnt one then infer that it is obviously a feature of some software you have installed?

Isn't there any setting on:
setting - system - motion sensor or some kind?

Could we have a list of install software on your HD?

Don't sweat it guys!
It just works out of the box!
And fyi the HD has a Light Sensor, G Sensor and Stylus Sensor.

Yes - the light sensor is in the earpiece area (if you have ambient light sensor option checked [default], have it open in a bright room on a mainly white windows screen then cover the earpice area you see the screen dim)

I don't know about it working straight out of the box but you can certainly do it with Gyrator 2.

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There certainly is...

Actually, I wanted to start this thread myself..
Face-down-mute does NOT work on my HD. Neither with Gyrator ON, nor whent it is OFF.
I have checked the registry (HKLM/Software/HTC/Phone/MuteFaceDown or smth like this..), the key setting is "1" so technically it should work....... But it Doesn't!!

Face down mute works if you have it face up and somebody calls you. Just turn it face down and ring is muted.
This is only thing I found on this topic.

Turning the phone down mutes incoming calls for me too. no problems there..

Ciciban said:
Face down mute works if you have it face up and somebody calls you. Just turn it face down and ring is muted.
This is only thing I found on this topic.
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This is very useful and it absolutely works. Cool! I thought when we place the phone face down, it would jsut be muted period. I was also assuming that there was a way to do this with Gyrator, but didnt know which event to select on orientation face down. I can turn off the screen, but there is no option in gyrator to mute the phone.
Thanks for the help though.

taimoorhusain said:
This is very useful and it absolutely works. Cool! I thought when we place the phone face down, it would jsut be muted period. I was also assuming that there was a way to do this with Gyrator, but didnt know which event to select on orientation face down. I can turn off the screen, but there is no option in gyrator to mute the phone.
Thanks for the help though.
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This is what I also assumed, when I am in the meeting and get a call I put it face down and it mutes, but then when someone else calls I need to face it up then down again which ideally doesn't work for me.
Isn't there a key like FaceDownMuteAll = 1?

Unfortunately i have the same problem. Flipping the phone is not muting the ring. Maybe its something to do with what we install. Also another strange issue no matter what i do i have the active sync always running in the background.

I have changeScreen installed and if I disable it it works. I think gsenor apps are the cause

Ciciban said:
Face down mute works if you have it face up and somebody calls you. Just turn it face down and ring is muted.
This is only thing I found on this topic.
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It works straight out of the box, I installed all sort of Gsense apps and it removed and face down mute still works fine.
Even in the case it is faced down and someone ring, I just have to face up, see whos is calling and face down again, it muted.

light sensor app like Iphone (incall screen off)

I was wondering if there's a app that allows the screen to turn off when you put the phone to you head? Then when you bring it out and in front of you, it turns back on. My Iphone did that and I loved that feature.

upping cause i'm intersted too

im believe this feature on the iphone is provided by a proximity sensor, you can probable do this with the light sensor but it would only work in the day time bc at night the screen would always be off...

not unless you use the gsensor too? i think if you work with the light sensor and the gsensor..you can get it to work. maybe have it only work when theres a active call.

This is an extremely good idea!

now if I was only a programmer

i'd love to see this feature on my diamond/blackstone too, i always have problems with the cursor jumping somewhere else when taking a note while in call...
theres already a thread about that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451456

sweet. thanks

I really love that fuction on iPhone as well. I found some program that can adjust the Light Sensor to dim the back light as you want. I never try it but surely not work in the dark. If any news on this issue, pls advise!!

I think the g-sensor is the answer, off course in combination with light sensor. If someone could make an app that would turn off the backlight during an active call AND when phone is in vertical position; this could resolve difficulties with light sensor.

aonavy said:
I was wondering if there's a app that allows the screen to turn off when you put the phone to you head? Then when you bring it out and in front of you, it turns back on. My Iphone did that and I loved that feature.
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There are a couple out there that attempt to solve the same problem the iPhone does.
One I know of is Touchlock Pro - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
It is free but it still has a little way to go before it is a polished solution
The other is PocketShield -- http://www.pocketshield.net/
It's not free but I found it so effective for the in-call problem as well as general locking/unlocking that it was worth paying for
I've also, as a developer by trade, played with the light sensor, g-sensor, and stylus sensor APIs and tried to create a basic proof of concept that solved just the in-call problem very well and found that without the approach taken by Pocketshield it just was not reliable enough for me.

fireweed said:
There are a couple out there that attempt to solve the same problem the iPhone does.
One I know of is Touchlock Pro - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
It is free but it still has a little way to go before it is a polished solution
The other is PocketShield -- http://www.pocketshield.net/
It's not free but I found it so effective for the in-call problem as well as general locking/unlocking that it was worth paying for
I've also, as a developer by trade, played with the light sensor, g-sensor, and stylus sensor APIs and tried to create a basic proof of concept that solved just the in-call problem very well and found that without the approach taken by Pocketshield it just was not reliable enough for me.
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All these programms are great software but are nowhere near the iphone solution... like i already said, the problem is e.g. that if you are on the phone and the person on the other end tells you a phonenumber you need to write down - the cursor always jumps to somewhere else as soon as you put your phone back to your ear (and then take it away again ofcourse to continue to notice the number).

ive messed with those apps before with no luch for what i was looking for. Simple app...JUST for incall and end call. light goesout..then comes back in. those other apps are pretty detaild

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All these programms are great software but are nowhere near the iphone solution...
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Very true, but unfortunately this hardware does not have the same sensor as the iPhone so you can only fake it so much.

I'd love to see this developed as well. But just wondering as some have mentioned using the gsensor; what if your laying down using the phone?

any developers out there. this would be awsome. make it simple. only works when the phone is in call. the gsensor sensing the phone from 0-45 degrees and only 0-5% light. seems sorta simple when u look at it like that.

hey everyone. My HTC Touch Pro came with this functionality out of the box. And i really don't like it at all. I think the difference to the iphone is that the screen does not turn back on until the power button is pressed.

millab said:
hey everyone. My HTC Touch Pro came with this functionality out of the box. And i really don't like it at all. I think the difference to the iphone is that the screen does not turn back on until the power button is pressed.
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My diamond does this already?

mine didnt. very weird.

For what it's worth, S2U2 v.1.42 has an option called "blank screen on call" which essentially disables the touch screen and makes it turn off when a call is connected (both sent and received). To get the screen to turn back on, simply press any hardware button. (Note though that pressing the END button while on a call will end the call as well as turning on the screen.)
I've found this feature to be VERY useful and figured it's as close as we're going to get for the time being .

Unintended taps during call: how to prevent them?

Hi!
I"m not the only having the problem: during a call unintended taps takes place while screen waking up is not registered during the call. So, you see, I'm not sure a proximity sensor is the reason of the problem as far as screen is kept turned off.
I have tried to reproduce the issue by fingers, but wasn't lucky.
Have you any ideas how to eliminate the problem?
I mean not-rooted official up-to-date stock firmware use case.
And, by the way, I haven't found proximity sensor calibration in service menu for A1. Is it placed somewhere into another place?

That happens to me all the time too.

Yup, me too. While in call I sometimes unknowingly turn on the flashlight and probably look like an idiot. ?

With the rn3p I would constantly end up muted. With mi a1 the problem is much less although I've noticed that numbers are still pressed. I've learned over time to switch to keypad so when something gets touched it's not the mute and at worst the other person receives some key tones.

I also have this problem a lot. I mute myself 9/10. To bypass to problem, I just lock the screen before placing it against my ear.

Yes, a simple soutions is just when you call someone, imidiately press power button to lock the screen (no password or fingerprint requred to unlock)

dejano said:
Yes, a simple soutions is just when you call someone, imidiately press power button to lock the screen (no password or fingerprint requred to unlock)
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That's what I've been doing. That and pushing the top part of the mobile on my face just to make sure. lol
Oh and use the Feedback app and send it to xiaomi and hope they fix it on the next update.

i had this problem too, has it been fixed in the latest of updates? its a really annoying bug.

You must be doing something wrong. This issue "must" have been in all smartphone operating systems in the world, if what you are saying is the truth.
There's no way to drop the call, or press anything while you are calling someone. The proximity sensor doesn't allow turning on the screen when it's close to an object. The gyroscope also turns off the screen when you rotate the phone vertically during a call.
But all I can say is that it's not a bug, this is how is your phone knows when you are in a call, and you put your phone to your ear, or when you use your "speaker", and so the phone knows it's supposed to used it's speaker to transfer voice through the call.
Beside my poor English, try to move your phone a bit vertically before putting it close to your ear.

same problem here, also disabling ambient display... i also tested proximity sensor with some apps and it seems ok

I have that problem too from the beginning. None of the updates came up with a solution

Same here: I mute, turn on the flashlight or even open apps sometimes with my face. And thanks for the input @SmallTarzan but i know how to operate a smartphone and did not have any similar problems for the last five years. Apart from that annoying bug it's a great phone.

Wow, i dont know of this bug since i'm using custom rom from very beginning.
Try to make a call then use your hand to cover top part of the phone, screen doesn't lock??

I am having this issue too and it is really annoying

And still nobody came up with a solution???
It's easy to understand why it happens.
Proximity activates while you're in a call, but apparently the touchscreen digitizer remains working (even though the screen is off). Touching the digitizer with your ears or cheeks activates different actions while you think your screen is locked.
I can't believe how this issue is not fixed yet! That's a shame!
Same applies for the network fluctuation issues. You need to either choose 3G or 4G to avoid loosing your data connection.
Xiaomi that's more than LAME! You need to be ashamed of yourselves.

It happens to me quite often, although not always.
It's more frequent during long calls. If the call lasts for less than a minute or so, it doesn't happen.
Proximity sensor works, and screen turns off as soon as I put it at my ear.
Keyboard is off and not responding for a while. Then, all of a sudden the phone comes alive.
In my case it's not the torch. What I activate unknowingly is the handsfree loudspeaker, which can be even more embarrassing, sometimes.
Maybe it's because I am left-handed.
In an attempt to have the proximity sensor fully covered by my face, I tried to make calls by holding the phone with my right hand, but to no avail, after some time the screen wakes up regardless of everything.

Happens to me too. Although I did notice some differences regarding the position of the phone on my ear or which side of my head I put the phone on, I started pressing the power button long ago to turn the screen off. It may not be ideal, but it takes care of it.

AlaiSalaam said:
Happens to me too. Although I did notice some differences regarding the position of the phone on my ear or which side of my head I put the phone on, I started pressing the power button long ago to turn the screen off. It may not be ideal, but it takes care of it.
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Try this app, some users say it helps.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ss.proximityservice

Any fixes yet?

simontol said:
Any fixes yet?
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None, same sh**