Okay to use a universal closed with screen hidden? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Apologies for the odd title, it's hard to convey the nature of my question without a long explanation.
I have an Alpine right now. My main peeve with it is the fact that screen & button lock gets turned off as soon as I receive a message or call, allowing me to open any number of programs and connections whilst the device is still sat in my pocket - a real PITA when I have to have it on silent when I'm in uni.
I should be getting a universal in a week or so.
I noticed that the universal can be closed in such a way that the screen is not exposed at all. What I was wondering was if it is practical to keep it in one's pocket like this (yeah I have big pockets), preventing any buttons/icons being pressed when I receive a message/call when it is in my pocket. Can one still normally receive messages and calls when it is like that, and still be able to answer them conveniently? Flipping the screen over to answer a call doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
Bottom line, is there anything I should know about using the phone like this?

With the screen closed you can still answer calls.
If you want to check who is ringing you can lift the screen to check the number and then just close the screen again and answer the call with the answer button on the spine of the Universal.
Another advantage of this is that the screen doesn't gunk up as the exterior of the Universal is pressed against your ear, not the screen as happens with the Alpine.

I think, to answer your question, it is possible that you once the device is "unlocked" active, or in sleep mode, pressing the "call" button that is external on the hinge, can activate and make telephone calls in advertantly. though it is unusual.
in relation to pocket, it just fits into a top shirt pocket. in baggy shorts, with its weight, it tends to bang around a bit. in jeans and pants, its a bit big.
overall, as a phone it is functional for receiving calls, if you just receive all. opening the screen to see is a bit of a pain after a while. Setting ring tones for specific callers helps to ease this. bluetooth headsets are also getting to a point of allowing caller id.
There is a heap of "issues" posted around the website and some dissatisfaction with the device. but i am perfectly happy with it, and does everything i wanted, except sufficient memory.

simon_darley said:
I think, to answer your question, it is possible that you once the device is "unlocked" active, or in sleep mode, pressing the "call" button that is external on the hinge, can activate and make telephone calls in advertantly. though it is unusual.
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Not a big deal to me, that is surely much less of an issue compared to my current problem with the unlocked screen. As for the pockets thing I don't think it will be a problem either, I'm used to the Alpine so I'm sure this won't be much of a big step.
Thanks for the responses guys, I'll be receiving mine tomorrow
My brother is getting my Alpine.
Edit: One more thing - does anyone know if my Alpine's car charger (3rd party, very cheap) will work with the universal or do I need to get a new one?

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Screen corruption when answering call with K-Jam

Hi, I was wondering if anyone suffers from screen corruption when recieving an incoming call. My screen sometimes (maybe 6 times out of 10) will go into landscape mode and result in some corruption. It will revert to normal when I actually answer the call. Sometimes, I am unable to answer the call and the caller will be sent to voicemail even though I click the green send button.
Has anyone come accross anything like this?
Thanks.
Well, there is a chance that I am psychic... Are you storing your device in the supplied holster? It has been noted that the sensor which indicates the keyboard is fully out appears to be either magnetic or sensitive to magnetic fields. So it is entirely possible that it is getting temporarily switched to landscape as you drag it out of the holster.
Neat experiment to prove this sensitivity. Take your K-Jam, turn on the power. Now, with the keyboard stowed, take your holster flap place the fuzzy side against the back of your device and slowly move it up around the right-hand edge of your device. At some point along the way your device will flip to landscape.
Robert Harrold
Houston, TX
Ahh, its done magnetically? I was worried a microswitch would eventually wear out ;p
you are so true, it happens to me all the time, it even answers calls automaticaly, I thought I was pressing some buttons while taking it out of the holster but I tried your little experiment , it was positive all the time,
Now, how to solve this without throwing the holster away?
I notices that it happens more when the screen is facing inside, when I insert it screen outside it rarely happens!
you are so true, it happens to me all the time, it even answers calls automaticaly, I thought I was pressing some buttons while taking it out of the holster but I tried your little experiment , it was positive all the time,
Now, how to solve this without throwing the holster away?
I notices that it happens more when the screen is facing inside, when I insert it screen outside it rarely happens!
robinton said:
Well, there is a chance that I am psychic... Are you storing your device in the supplied holster? It has been noted that the sensor which indicates the keyboard is fully out appears to be either magnetic or sensitive to magnetic fields. So it is entirely possible that it is getting temporarily switched to landscape as you drag it out of the holster.
Neat experiment to prove this sensitivity. Take your K-Jam, turn on the power. Now, with the keyboard stowed, take your holster flap place the fuzzy side against the back of your device and slowly move it up around the right-hand edge of your device. At some point along the way your device will flip to landscape.
Robert Harrold
Houston, TX
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Robert, I will pay to have you read my fortune any day!! Exactly as you said. Really gutted about having to ditch the holster, but I would rather be able to answer my calls effectively.
Thanks again, pal. Much appreciated.
simx said:
you are so true, it happens to me all the time, it even answers calls automaticaly, I thought I was pressing some buttons while taking it out of the holster but I tried your little experiment , it was positive all the time,
Now, how to solve this without throwing the holster away?
I notices that it happens more when the screen is facing inside, when I insert it screen outside it rarely happens!
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U JUST SOLVED MY PROBLEM
I JUST THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY HANDS !!
or what i have is the top button on the right handside to flip between land and port, so when it does that you just press the button and it flips back right away!

Dropped calls and other problems (Vario II)

My Vario II (on T-Mobile UK) is driving me crazy dropping calls. The problem manifests itself most often on receiving calls. What happens is that the phone will ring and I will press either the green "pick up" button or the "answer" onscreen prompt. The call drops and the caller is sent to my voicemail.
It's happening on more than 50% of calls. I have a strong signal in the locations this has happened in. I also put the SIM in my old Nokia 6230i and it worked fine for a day. No dropped calls. So I'm inclined to blame the device.
It does not cut off very often or in any unsatisfactory way when I have initiated the call.
I also have a problem whereby the green pick up button does not answer the call. In factr, all the lower buttons randomly stop working from time to time (at least every other day) requiring a soft reset to make them work again. (I have not locked the keys on the device by the way).
Does anyone have any suggestions - should I consider a radio rom upgrade or get the device exchanged? I dont want to invalidate my warranty...
Thanks,
antlion
Mine does this too. You press the answer button, the screen says "Connected", but I can't hear anything. I'm assuming the caller can actually hear me saying "Hello, Hello" because they don't hang up straight away.
antlion
What's your S/N no Htxxx? I think buttons not working seems like a hardware fault !
case
I gooiing to try to use the phone for a couple of days without the original leather case... I think it goes that days much better!
I have the same problems... and also my screen goed from landscape to portrait mode when I get my phone out of his case...
I have read that the two strong magnets in the case causes this troubles!
Jay_uk said:
antlion
What's your S/N no Htxxx? I think buttons not working seems like a hardware fault !
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ht642f211427 - can you tell anything from that?
smarty77 said:
I gooiing to try to use the phone for a couple of days without the original leather case... I think it goes that days much better!
I have the same problems... and also my screen goed from landscape to portrait mode when I get my phone out of his case...
I have read that the two strong magnets in the case causes this troubles!
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i do use the case all the time. I did notice that the magnets are quite strong. Do you have a link to any information about the effect of the magnets?
I was thinking of geting one of those nice vaja cases but they have magnets too...
The magnets won't really do anything, their effects are too localised for any damage to occur. The only reason your screen flips is because the magnet sensor used inside the actual device is very sensitive.
imho.
I've had problems in the past with calls either dropping or going to voicemail when I've picked up - sometimes this is either because I've picked up JUST as the other person has gotten bored and hung up, and the phone still thinks they're on the line (that's just rotten luck) or it's due to some heavy CPU usage at the time (methinks).
That said, I had an HT634 before, and my two day old, replacement handset (HT643) hasn't done it yet... But again, I've not made or received that many calls since I got it. Not noticed any problems yet... I have been more cautious about what software I install on it too. It has to be something screwing with the events association (you know, 'on call do xyz' and that could be taking up valuable cpu cycles). Had this problem a lot more on my Alpine, also noted that if someone rang me it took almost half a second usually for the line to be properly connected - I still wait a little bit before speaking when i pick up on my Hermes, and I have a feeling that the delay is still there.
Meh.
I've decided to test the SIM in my old Nokia 6310i for a couple of days to see if that drops calls. If it doesn't then I'm going to RMA the handset back to T-Mobile and get a replacement.
Just looking around as my T-Mobile Vario 2 drops around 50% of calls on answer too.
I thought it was a hardware issue at first but having tried the software "button" for a week, I am experiencing the same problems.
Any calls I make are fine, calls that I answer satisfactorily are good too, in fact, the quality of calls is excellent. Much better than my XDA mini s was (very "lumpy" quality on that one!)
Any body found a solution?

Problem while on hands free....the phone is unlocked in pocket!!!!!

Hi all
So i got my HTC HD2 nice feel to it....but..
2 things :
1:while i have handsfree on i answer a call as always and the phone unlockes in my pocket a.s.a i answer and then...well buttons keep pushing and calls keep shutting off e.t.c
i called HTC and they said nothing they can do and that there is a 3rd party app to fix this....well i am to "stupid" cause i cant find it..
plz help.
2:Very sensitive screen and i have dificulty figuring out hoe to change that..
thnx allot guys for "listening" hope to get some answers...esspecially for nr1 its a pain....
Hi,
I know you are new on here but a few threads up from yours you would have found this one...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Take time out to read it and you should find answers to at least some of your problems.
Good luck
WB
The screen is capacitive, so it shouldnt be possible for anything to be pressed in your pocket.
loomx said:
The screen is capacitive, so it shouldnt be possible for anything to be pressed in your pocket.
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Whilst the screen is capacitive, the material of a pocket may be thin enough to still allow a key press to register.
Also I believe the hard keys would still be available to press and could hang up the call.
I think there is an issue with the keypad becoming active while on a call.
I've used this phone since launch and it's driving me nuts.
One of the main problems is the proximity sensor which should turn off the touch screen during an active call intermittently doesn't work.
I called my wife today and cut her off at least twice because of this bug.
There is a reg tweek to reduce the sensitivity of the screen- you have to google it.
SMS is alos occasionally sticking.
I'm going to start a new thread to ask if 1.61 cure these issues.

Annoying Auto LCD Turn Off While Making Call

Hi all, I absolutely love the HD2. However, I find one really annoying problem about the "auto LCD shut off between dialing and after a call is connected, and this has been really driving me crazy! I'm not sure why no one has mentioned about this, is it because it is my problem of mis-using it or no one has bothered to voice it up?? I apologized if this has been posted but I couldn't find one solution so far.
It is about the auto LCD shut off sensor feature while making a call. My English is not that good, my mother tongue is Chinese, I will try my best to describe the problem written in English. I've tried so many cooked roms, all have the same old frustrating issue. After when I've dialed a number, as most ppl do, I will put the phone near my ear while waiting for the call to get connected. However, in the process while making the call while the phone is near my ear, the LCD will shut off by itself, and when a call is connected, the annoying issue will occur! When a call is connected, the LCD will turn back on by itself even though the phone is still in tack with the ear, as a result, part of our face will make contact on the screen and very often pressing one of the on-screen buttons! Also, it is not only this problem will happen after a call is connected, during a process of calling or during a conversation, if there is a notification prompted out, for example, a sms have been received, or a email has been received or low battery notification, the LCD will always turn back on and make the face accidentally press on one of the on-screen button, this is really annoying, is there a solution to let the sensor shut off the LCD for good until the phone has really get away from the ear and the face???
It's not a problem
It's an advantage
HTC did that to prevent you from touching anything with your ear and you cheek and maybe without this you could end the call accidentally or lunching apps so and so .....
Some people have found that this happens when their screen protector is too close or covering the sensor. Cutting away a small ammount of the screen protector to make sure it doesn't interfere with the sensor seems to be the answer.
Not sure you have read his question correctly - it turns off when he puts it to his head, which he wants, but then it turns back on again when the call connects.
I have the same problem, (incidentally had the same problem with a Diamond and Omnia II with Tachi phone canvas). Only solution was to breifly move it away from your head and back again, which I just got used to.
No idea how to solve it though. Sorry.
[APP] Proximity Sensor for Screen Off v0.2
Maybe you should look for this little app, it could work for you.
I can't post links, so make a search inside xda, there's a topic with that title.....
peacebank said:
Not sure you have read his question correctly - it turns off when he puts it to his head, which he wants, but then it turns back on again when the call connects.
I have the same problem, (incidentally had the same problem with a Diamond and Omnia II with Tachi phone canvas). Only solution was to breifly move it away from your head and back again, which I just got used to.
No idea how to solve it though. Sorry.
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yes, the first 2 replies didn't get what my question is, sorry for the misunderstanding if I've made any.
giegi_dc said:
[APP] Proximity Sensor for Screen Off v0.2
Maybe you should look for this little app, it could work for you.
I can't post links, so make a search inside xda, there's a topic with that title.....
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thank you so much! I will look for it, and hope it is a solution.

Unintended taps during call: how to prevent them?

Hi!
I"m not the only having the problem: during a call unintended taps takes place while screen waking up is not registered during the call. So, you see, I'm not sure a proximity sensor is the reason of the problem as far as screen is kept turned off.
I have tried to reproduce the issue by fingers, but wasn't lucky.
Have you any ideas how to eliminate the problem?
I mean not-rooted official up-to-date stock firmware use case.
And, by the way, I haven't found proximity sensor calibration in service menu for A1. Is it placed somewhere into another place?
That happens to me all the time too.
Yup, me too. While in call I sometimes unknowingly turn on the flashlight and probably look like an idiot. ?
With the rn3p I would constantly end up muted. With mi a1 the problem is much less although I've noticed that numbers are still pressed. I've learned over time to switch to keypad so when something gets touched it's not the mute and at worst the other person receives some key tones.
I also have this problem a lot. I mute myself 9/10. To bypass to problem, I just lock the screen before placing it against my ear.
Yes, a simple soutions is just when you call someone, imidiately press power button to lock the screen (no password or fingerprint requred to unlock)
dejano said:
Yes, a simple soutions is just when you call someone, imidiately press power button to lock the screen (no password or fingerprint requred to unlock)
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That's what I've been doing. That and pushing the top part of the mobile on my face just to make sure. lol
Oh and use the Feedback app and send it to xiaomi and hope they fix it on the next update.
i had this problem too, has it been fixed in the latest of updates? its a really annoying bug.
You must be doing something wrong. This issue "must" have been in all smartphone operating systems in the world, if what you are saying is the truth.
There's no way to drop the call, or press anything while you are calling someone. The proximity sensor doesn't allow turning on the screen when it's close to an object. The gyroscope also turns off the screen when you rotate the phone vertically during a call.
But all I can say is that it's not a bug, this is how is your phone knows when you are in a call, and you put your phone to your ear, or when you use your "speaker", and so the phone knows it's supposed to used it's speaker to transfer voice through the call.
Beside my poor English, try to move your phone a bit vertically before putting it close to your ear.
same problem here, also disabling ambient display... i also tested proximity sensor with some apps and it seems ok
I have that problem too from the beginning. None of the updates came up with a solution
Same here: I mute, turn on the flashlight or even open apps sometimes with my face. And thanks for the input @SmallTarzan but i know how to operate a smartphone and did not have any similar problems for the last five years. Apart from that annoying bug it's a great phone.
Wow, i dont know of this bug since i'm using custom rom from very beginning.
Try to make a call then use your hand to cover top part of the phone, screen doesn't lock??
I am having this issue too and it is really annoying
And still nobody came up with a solution???
It's easy to understand why it happens.
Proximity activates while you're in a call, but apparently the touchscreen digitizer remains working (even though the screen is off). Touching the digitizer with your ears or cheeks activates different actions while you think your screen is locked.
I can't believe how this issue is not fixed yet! That's a shame!
Same applies for the network fluctuation issues. You need to either choose 3G or 4G to avoid loosing your data connection.
Xiaomi that's more than LAME! You need to be ashamed of yourselves.
It happens to me quite often, although not always.
It's more frequent during long calls. If the call lasts for less than a minute or so, it doesn't happen.
Proximity sensor works, and screen turns off as soon as I put it at my ear.
Keyboard is off and not responding for a while. Then, all of a sudden the phone comes alive.
In my case it's not the torch. What I activate unknowingly is the handsfree loudspeaker, which can be even more embarrassing, sometimes.
Maybe it's because I am left-handed.
In an attempt to have the proximity sensor fully covered by my face, I tried to make calls by holding the phone with my right hand, but to no avail, after some time the screen wakes up regardless of everything.
Happens to me too. Although I did notice some differences regarding the position of the phone on my ear or which side of my head I put the phone on, I started pressing the power button long ago to turn the screen off. It may not be ideal, but it takes care of it.
AlaiSalaam said:
Happens to me too. Although I did notice some differences regarding the position of the phone on my ear or which side of my head I put the phone on, I started pressing the power button long ago to turn the screen off. It may not be ideal, but it takes care of it.
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Try this app, some users say it helps.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ss.proximityservice
Any fixes yet?
simontol said:
Any fixes yet?
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None, same sh**

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