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Cingular+UMTS+HERMES/Tytn

I'm planning on purchasing a Hermes next month and wondering if its worth getting the unlimitted data plan.
I"m a college student so no need for emediate connection to email or anythign business wise, basicly internet leisure.
So whats your advice, is it worth being connected 24/7? Will the battery hold? My brother has the nokia N80 in the middle east and he tells me that phone doesn't last half a day with 3g on, how about the hermes?
Also a main motivation for 3g for me is the video calling, but i don't know much about that, is it a device to device connection or does cingular need to set something up for it to work?(even if it is device to device, none of my friends have 3g so i see its 40 bucks to waste.) Any thoughts would be good
thanks

I am currently on Cingular with the TyTn and get a UMTS singal in my area about half the time I use it. I have the internet connection registry dealy set to always on, and i don't have any trouble with the battery.
Also a main motivation for 3g for me is the video calling, but i don't know much about that, is it a device to device connection or does cingular need to set something up for it to work?
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I was curious about this also.
i see its 40 bucks to waste.
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Nope. Don't let try to tell you that you need the PDA unlimited plan just get the
$19.99 MEdia Max 200
200 Messages $0.05/add'l (this includes text and mms)
Unlimited data
Unlimited cingular video

nickcerda said:
$19.99 MEdia Max 200
200 Messages $0.05/add'l (this includes text and mms)
Unlimited data
Unlimited cingular video
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wow, i never new such a data plan existed. I go well over 200 msgs a month so i htink i'm gonna do that plus th e$9.99 1000 texts,

Nope then you want the Media Max 1000
$29.99 MEdia Max 1000
1000 Messages $0.03/add'l (txt & mms)
Unlimited Data
Unlimited Cingular video
https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase

EVEN BETTER!!!
how come i never saw these before? i've been with cingular over 2 years now and i thought all they had was the unlimited data for 39.99 and the media works for 19.99 which only included 5mb. I used to have media works with my jam and i kept going over 5 MB and the messages allowed and i was hitting $60 to $80 in overages.
Thanks again, will definately subscribe to this plan in the next 3 days and use it with my wizard till i get the TyTn some time next month
Thanks again!

The Cingular messaging/data bundles are new for Q3 2006.

Hello All,
I am visiting Chicago and using my Tytn. The device rocks like no other. King of the kings basically when it comes to UMTS in Chicago. It is registering a speed of 2.04 mbps when I test the connection.
Gilbert

I can't wait till i get a hold of one!!
About the data plans, I just subscribed to the MEdia Max 1000 for $29.99 but whats the between that and Unlimited Data Access for PDA which is $39.99? When i click on it the explanation pop is blank.
I'm not complaining that MEdia Max 1000 is cheaper but are they gonna try to shaft me by saying I have a PDA and start billing me for KiloBytes? Or with the media net can i only access MEdia Net sites?

Where do you all get the Tytn? On ebay they are $800!!!
I live in UMTS territory so I would love to have one here.
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@nickcerda:
So many questions.... so little time.....
Ok, you are accessing UMTS on Cingular with a standard SIM? If so this is good news because our rep was feeding me a line that a new "3G SIM" would be required to access UMTS.
I take it wap.cingular and/or isp.cingular are visible and can be connected to over UMTS correct? If so, which one are you using?

No, I am not using UMTS yet, just fantasizing.

Sleuth255 said:
Ok, you are accessing UMTS on Cingular with a standard SIM? If so this is good news because our rep was feeding me a line that a new "3G SIM" would be required to access UMTS.
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Yes, you need the new 3G sim to access 3G, But the sim is free. Just go to any cingular store and tell them u need the 3g sim and they'll give it to and it takes about 5 min for it to activate.

It goes like this. wap.cingualr (media net) uses some form of compression and there is some problem with vpn's or something. isp.cingular (data connect or pda plan) loses the compression, and the vpn problem. I believe the problem comes in with the type of IP they assign. Technically you should be on PDA plan with a PDA, however my current phone according to Cingular is the 8125, and i still have the media net plan. in fact I bought my 8125 directly from Cingular. But I guess to answer your question as long as you don't use the isp.cingular you'll be fine. And for the record I have used both the compression does nothing at all to speed.

agreed, compression is worthless but....
did you get a 3G SIM from Cingular to run in your TyTN?

nickcerda: thanks for that info. so browsing sites like this isn't gonna be charged per kb? i just don't want them to be charging me when i've got the media max 1000
sleuth255: i don't have a TyTN but i do have the 3G simcard, i just went into a cingular shop and asked them for it and was out of there in 5 min.

@fone_fanatic:
I'll go try that tomorrow. If they cough one up then I'll push buy it now on a tytn..

push that button one more time for me

Actually, I gotta find out if it has A2DP first. TCPMP -> my iPAQ stereo headset is one of the most used apps on my 8125. I can't go back to wired... especially given the TyTN's non-standard connector...
With UMTS shoutcast should fly! :drool:

Yes I do have a 3g sim card. And like I said as long as you use the wap.cingular apn you will not be charged per kilobyte.

@nickcerda:
Tks for the info! My account can use wap or isp so it isn't an issue. I'm off to locate a 3G sim.
One more quick question (I already owe you a beer btw)
If you have a registry editor could you check to see if the following keys exist on your TyTN:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP
and
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AudioGateway

AT&T Users

I want to drop my pda data plan that is $40/month to the media max for $20/month. If I do this will I loose anything like outlook email or web surfing?

No, but youll be limited on the amount of data you can transfer without paying per kb. Dont you think that ATT would be a better place to ask this other than a software developers forum.

zeek112 said:
No, but youll be limited on the amount of data you can transfer without paying per kb. Dont you think that ATT would be a better place to ask this other than a software developers forum.
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They will ban you for such conversation.
Also the media max is unlimited data as well.
I was asking for user of AT&T options and what they use for there 8525.

Nioc said:
I want to drop my pda data plan that is $40/month to the media max for $20/month. If I do this will I loose anything like outlook email or web surfing?
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I use mediamax and do anything I want and never had any problems.

wpbear said:
I use mediamax and do anything I want and never had any problems.
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do you just have to route everything through wap.cingular? I heard if it goes through isp.cingular then they charge you per KB

I use just fine except for internet radio, at&t blocked the port or sevice that it was using, so I just did a vpn link with my home router and it works fine, But yeah unlimited data for 20.00 bucks a month yipee

Nioc said:
do you just have to route everything through wap.cingular? I heard if it goes through isp.cingular then they charge you per KB
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I use WAP and never had any ports blocked. I use xstreamxm and MusicDock too. See my sig for WAP setups in a few flavors.

Yeah i'm on the same plan and tether just about all the time since it's like having a 20 dollar dsl connection!

so what's the difference between the $20 dollar medianet service and the $40 service...?

Methadras said:
so what's the difference between the $20 dollar medianet service and the $40 service...?
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Nothing, except you have $20 less and ATT has $20 more every month.

ericc191 said:
Yeah i'm on the same plan and tether just about all the time since it's like having a 20 dollar dsl connection!
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I am visiting DFW this week for business.....just noticed your sig. Just wanted to give a shout out to DFW, I am enjoying the weather!

wpbear said:
I am visiting DFW this week for business.....just noticed your sig. Just wanted to give a shout out to DFW, I am enjoying the weather!
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Dfw here too, yup yup weather is finally nice!

Officially the MediaMax plan is not supposed to be used with PDA phone like the 8525. If you go to the Cingular store, they will not let you activate a MediaMax plan and will force you to use one of the PDA data plans. They are also not supposed to let you activate the MediaMax plan on-line or by phone if you have a PDA either. If you already were using MediaMax when you changed to a PDA phone like the 8525, then they do not catch that.

dlweston said:
Officially the MediaMax plan is not supposed to be used with PDA phone like the 8525. If you go to the Cingular store, they will not let you activate a MediaMax plan and will force you to use one of the PDA data plans. They are also not supposed to let you activate the MediaMax plan on-line or by phone if you have a PDA either. If you already were using MediaMax when you changed to a PDA phone like the 8525, then they do not catch that.
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how about if i called at&t and asked them to add the mediamax plan...?

Methadras said:
so what's the difference between the $20 dollar medianet service and the $40 service...?
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Terms of service. If they catch you using a PDA with the $20 service they'll likely drop your data plan and not let you resubscribe to it until you get the $40 service.

I found this about a month ago when I was looking for an answer to this similar question (but regarding tethering with a laptop & dataplans). I post it here in an effort to share something that may be useful to others with similar questions.
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What AT&T doesn't tell you is that all of the data plans are the same, they all work the same way, and there's no difference between the $20 media max data plan, $40 pda plan, or $60 laptop plan.
Well almost none, there is one difference which I'll explain. But the point is tethering or not, you'll never be charged a single penny more than your flat unlimited rate no matter what you do.
AT&T doesn't differentiate tethered data vs. phone-originated. To them it's all used the same way. The phone logs in to the data APN and uses data and in some case that can be coming/going to the laptop.
Officially for tethering or laptop data cards alike, you're supposed to have the $60 "laptop connect" aka "data connect" unlimited plan.
So what's the difference?
Here's a little primer on data plans.... AT&T has 3 access points (APN's or Access point names.)
1) wap.cingular
2) isp.cingular
3) blackberry.net
#3 is only on blackberry plans and it's necessary to use blackberry connect for your Treo if you were to try to use it. Otherwise, it's not interesting for this discussion.
For ALL AT&T phones (flip/bar phones,) Windows mobile, Symbian, Palm OS, laptop cards, and tethering.. in other words EVERYTHING that's not a Blackberry, they use APN #1 and #2 above (wap.cingular or isp.cingular.)
wap.cingular = NAT IP address. Basically IP address sharing you find on any corporate or home router.
isp.cingular = Public IP address. Exists for the purpose of supporting VPN clients, some of which have trouble working over NAT.
wap.cingular is intended for use with all phones, PDAs, etc.
isp.cingular is intended for data cards and tethering.
However, they're not mututally exclusive to those operations. You can use a phone on isp.cingular and tether on wap.cingular for example.
OK, now the data plans:
$20 Media Max 200 = wap.cingular only
$40 PDA "personal" Max (1500 text messages) = wap.cingular only
$40 PDA Connect Unlimited (aka PDA39) (no text messages) aka PDA enterprise = wap.cingular + isp.cingular
$60 laptop plan = wap.cingular + isp.cingular
Any plan with "tethering" will include isp.cingular + wap.cingular.
Any plan with "Personal" in the name will be wap.cingular only.
OK so what does all of this mean?
None of this means anything except that I'm trying to explain how the different data plans aren't different.
If you have a data plan that includes isp.cingular, you can use as well as tether on isp.cingular. If you have a plan with wap.cingular only, tether and only use wap.cingular, never use isp.cingular.
On plans that don't include isp.cingular, it should simply fail to connect. But to be safe make sure you don't see any kind of "internet pay per use" or similar wording on your features list. that would mean wap.cingular is unlimited and isp.cingular is "pay per use" rates.
This is how you'd get burned by a big bill and how people have been burned in the past. But AT&T seems to have fixed the problem and no longer put isp.cingular PPU on accounts anymore.
Just simply be aware of this so you can avoid it.
What APN you're using, you'll have to drill down in to the connection settings. The profile "My ISP" as well as "Media Net" are both set up by default to use wap.cingular (aka works on all plans.) Media net only differs in that it's set up to use a proxy.
You can also get more on this on a page I published here:
http://www.gadgetech.info/wireless/cingular/data/
Note, this is outdated. it was written before they introduced "PDA Personal" Max, so it doesn't reflect those new plans. But it is still educational if you want to know more about the difference between APNs.
Having said all of that, I have Media Max 200 and have had it for 4+ years on Treos. I've tethered, and use my SIM in laptop cards. I've never been charged extra. to be charged extra would be a billing error that AT&T should resolve.
PDANet is the easiest way to tether on a Treo 750.
When you get the WM6 upgrade, it has internet sharing built in which takes away the need for PDANet.
Note on WM6, the use "My ISP" not "ICS." "ICS" is set up to use isp.cingular.

Entropy512 said:
Terms of service. If they catch you using a PDA with the $20 service they'll likely drop your data plan and not let you resubscribe to it until you get the $40 service.
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So tell then you have a reg phone and if they want an IMEI then give them one from the stash you have in your closet (Everyone has a throwaway....at least they should)

subscribing to this.
I just got off the phone with AT&T about this very issue. Spent an hour on the phone with one of their network ppl. When I get some time on the laptop I will elaborate a bit more.
JB

Nioc said:
I want to drop my pda data plan that is $40/month to the media max for $20/month. If I do this will I loose anything like outlook email or web surfing?
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No you wont lose anything. But my friend had the $20/month plan and his phonebill was $350.00. I think its better to go with the unlimited data plan for $40.00 unless you live in a city that has free wifi. I just use wifi myself. I know AT&T hates that.

I just signed up online. Att doesn't know what phone i have or seem to anyway. I use wap.cingular login. $20 a month for about 6months now and no problems.
^^^^^$20 month plan is Unlimited. Intended for normal Cellphones not PDAs.

What internet plan are you using for your Wing?

I have a T-Mobile Wing running Open Touch.
Everything on my phone is set... except for internet.
What are my available options for internet plans for my wing?
I want unlimited internet usage and unlimited text.
What is available and what is the best/cheapest plan to get so I can use it for Internet Explorer, Opera, Google Maps, Weather, etc.??

I just have unlimited text and unlimited data. I figured that's what every wing user had.

So, that's $14.99 for Unlimited text and $19.99 for Unlimited data..
Is there any other option? Or is this the only way to go..
Can I use the $5.99 T-Zones plan for internet?

ryansofresh said:
So, that's $14.99 for Unlimited text and $19.99 for Unlimited data..
Is there any other option? Or is this the only way to go..
Can I use the $5.99 T-Zones plan for internet?
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You can but don't expect it to be there when you need it. My daughter does the 5.99 and I on average 2 times a month I get asked to see if I can figure out why she can't go to Myspace in Opera Mini. It is usually her fault changing a setting but still I do expect the day that the loophole will be closed. As for myself I have unlimited text and data. I just like to use my phone as I want when I want. As a matter of fact today my ISP (Comcast) was having difficulties with the ambient temps around here so web was slow or not loading. So I used my phone's ICS to browse the forum.

it's in my signature

Thanks for the input..
So the Unlimited data is the best thing to do, but the $19.99 hurts, haha.
Say I get the T-Zones $5.99, once I get that activated, will my internet explorer, weather, google maps, etc work automatically?
Or do I have to change some settings and download some cabs before they work?
Can someone shed some light on what steps I have to take to get T-Zones internet to work my internet explorer, google maps, etc. after I activate it?

Unlimited will require no configuration changes. "If" you already have T-Mobile configurations present.
T-Zones will not work right away the proxy configurations are listed all over the forum and can be found via google. There is a decent amount of configuration edits. It can be tedious or work right the first try all a matter of how well you follow the directions and if the directions you find do indeed work.
Good Luck!
p.s. If you plan on using palringo (all in 1 IM) ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) the proxy did not work for me. Can't say that is true with everyone.
I just tried the proxy settings 2 nights ago with a friends sim card on my Wing just to show him what the benefits are of paying for proper service and not.
My opinion is get the Full Service it just works.

Thanks for your response.. really helpful.
I'm going to try the T-Zones for a while, if I hate it, then I'm going with the Unlimited Data Plan...

I have 1,000 texts for 8.99? and unlimited internet for 19.99. Get the internet, it's connected 24/7, I get all my emails,weather, browsing the web, downloads,

ryansofresh said:
I have a T-Mobile Wing running Open Touch.
Everything on my phone is set... except for internet.
What are my available options for internet plans for my wing?
I want unlimited internet usage and unlimited text.
What is available and what is the best/cheapest plan to get so I can use it for Internet Explorer, Opera, Google Maps, Weather, etc.??
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I have OT v.6 spb with T-zones 5.99 just need to set the prozy settings it works all time no worries, the only thing i cant do is get my yahoo mail, have to use wifi or connect to computer
and i have unlimited txt 19.99 i pay a little more cuz im on family plan

unlimited internet

i use no plan. I'm cheap.
wifi is fine for me.

I have to have it for my job... not to mention its convinient to have regardless.

fzzyrn said:
i use no plan. I'm cheap.
wifi is fine for me.
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Yeah, I'm too cheap for that too, but now I'm starting to rethink the 5.99 tzones though. Although, wi/fi works fine and anytime I need it, I can usually find a hotspot.

Because of work, I HAVE to have unlimited internet and the worldclass service, so that I can use my phone and internet from any country... If I wasn't always traveling on a monthly basis.

I got the Tzones set up the proxy like in the tutorial loaded up a few pages fine then i had to go to work...a couple hours later tried it again and this is the message that I get on internet explorer now...
"Error:request content '(website here)' cannot be accessed. You do not have access to the site."

wifi is fine for me it saves me 20 dollars a month...lol

I had t-zones for a while on my wing,one day it stopped working and couldn't get it to work for after a few days, I had to call t-mobile and asked what happened.They told me t-zones is for regular cells, not smartphones. I had to go with unlimited data.

someeh said:
I had t-zones for a while on my wing,one day it stopped working and couldn't get it to work for after a few days, I had to call t-mobile and asked what happened.They told me t-zones is for regular cells, not smartphones. I had to go with unlimited data.
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you goofed by not just telling them that you swap your sim out with another smaller phone once in a while that you DO use t-zones with. If they ask you why, just tell them it's none of their business Or if you are feeling nice then say that you're 2nd phone is for times when you want to use your smaller Samsung T-809 or whatever to keep in your pocket when you're out... like clubs, ect. The wing is not pocket friendly so that's what I actually do sometimes.
Bottom line is, they have no business canceling your t-zones without your permission.

Im on a $2.99 offer for Unlimited T-Zones and Unlimited Picture Messages
I use the T-Mo Proxy =]

Tzones Hack Help....

so after months of having a stock rom, i decided to play with my wing again and tried to get the tzones 5.99 plan for my wing, but the rep said that it is no longer compatible...when checking online under my account, the plan doesn't appear...is there any other way i can get it back on??? thanks in advance

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jtarango1 said:
so after months of having a stock rom, i decided to play with my wing again and tried to get the t-zones 5.99 plan for my wing, but the rep said that it is no longer compatible...when checking online under my account, the plan doesn't appear...is there any other way i can get it back on??? thanks in advance
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yeah it's strange, i looked on my t-mo account and the area designated to signing up for new services no longer shows my t-zones 5.99. I hear they have gotten rid of it. BUT, when i change my phone type(the pic in the upper right corner of my t-mo page) to a moto razor and go back into account/services, the 5.99 t-zones web shows up! So! try switching to a moto razor on your my t-mobile page and see if it is an option in the account/change services links and report back. I know when i last signed up for t-zones i did it from a non pda phone via the handset and the t-zones page. then i pulled the sim card and put it in my wing. once i set the proxy settings the full web was available. right now I'm using the epc.tmobile.com site instead of wap.voicestream.com. i've heard that this works even without a subscription to a data plan but will only be available for a limited time. start/settings/connections/manage existing connections/modem/edit/access point name/epc.tmobile.com..... good luck!

t zones hacks
ok after going round and round with tmobile with my wife's behold i had figured out something the 5.99 tzones does no longer exist it's price has been raised to 9.99. depending on the device that is going to be using the tzones depends on what plans are available, so the trick is to find the oldest phone you have and place your simcard within. then goto tzones and sign up for the lowest data plan. the plans are not tied to the phone once the plan has been purchased but it does look at the device that is being used to access the web. for example my wife has a razr and and a samsung behold the behold is a 3g device while the razr is a standerd gsm device. now according to tmoble the behold will not work on the standard gsm plan. but that is wrong once ya change the proxy to the standard gsm proxy 216.155.165.50:8080 it will work now mind you you will not be able to stream anything but ya can still surf just as well also the 9.99 is limited to 100mb. my plan stemmed from a sony erricson t19 long story short the data plan is independent of the device (with the exception for a blackberry) after it has been activated its tied to the phone number on the sim but to sign up it depends on the device
-rastlin

Actually if you use the epc.tmobile.com access, you do not need to set the proxy settings since there are no port restrictions.
And it may be just an illusion but I feel that it is much faster too.

So if I put my SIM card in say a Razr, change my phone to a Razr and the data plan to the 9.99 data plan, and switch the SIM back in my Wing, I'll have full internet?
But what's the deal with the bandwidth limit? It's ONLY for the 9.99 plan no?

corrrect if memory serves me, the 9.99 is the lowest amount one get for a dataplan but they cap it @ 100mb the 5.99 is grandfathered in now depending on whom you ask in customer support ya may have access to it then it depends on the person you speak to and what level they are at as an employee for all you know they may not have access to that screen so just keep askin...
-rastlin

T-Mobile Web $5.99 is now web2go $9.99
T-Mobile Web $5.99 is now web2go $9.99. Since changing from wap.voicestream.com to epc.tmobile.com the proxy is no longer required with either service. One is simply grandfathered, the other is new service. A word of caution, changes to your plan and services online at My T-Mobile may result in removal of T-Mobile Web without you being aware of it, so before you lock whatever changes you have made in it is imperative you make sure you're not removing T-Mobile Web. I called their web support and tech support and raised holy hell with them about this sneaky little tactic being put in just before you make the final click to submit to the changes online. I do know T-Mobile is unlimited as in exactly that, unlimited. There is a fair usage policy on all of T-Mobile's new data plans including web2go and as many know, data usage is now included on your bill.

so if i get the $10 plan i can do everything with it that i would be able to do with the $25 plan but i am capped at 100MB correct?
edit: i changed my phone to a razor v3 the tmobile support page but the 10 dollar data plan is not there only the hotspot plan is that the same thing because i dont think that it is.

t-zones and data plans
i too had this happen to me and just found out last week when buyin my new Wing. i currently own a Moto RIZR, which is a really nice slide phone. and i had t-zone web for 5.99 and used opera mini. i turned it off for a few months and when i looked it was the new 9.99 plan. i have all the services t-mo offers and 5 lines and very happy its all good i have the 9.99 plan now.

well on the plus side its beats paying the full price that they are asking for.
-rastlin

Confused
OKay, I have a 3g iphone with 2.2 firmware. I added the tmobile plan for 9.99 so that I could hack tzones and get full internet. I have put epc.tmobile.com in my apn but I still can't roam the internet. I can only use tzones like is meant to be used. It says my plan restricts me from going to those sites, that if I want to upgrade click on the link. Ahhh. I am really frustrated on how I can get t-zones hacked! Help me please!

Tzones Hack Help....with iphone
well i dont konw about yall but i dont know much about the iphone it self since it is an apple product and i dont own any apple products, being the fact that they cost so darn much....
-ryan

this is a thread for the herald or wing not the iphone, you might wanna post in the right forum

Thanks patspdaphone!!
So I have been trying to get more on my Wing than is probly possible but hey thats the FUN of it! When I did a hard reset and then soft booted before all the T-Mobile crap was installed it saved me like 6MB of space which is a lot for us Wing users! Anyway my point is when I stopped all the T-Mobile stuff from loading, I guess a part of all of that is the T-Zones and I am using the New TouchFLO Manila 2D so it needs to connect to GPRS in order to get the weather and internet Tabs to work. When I read your post that says....
PATSPDAPHONE -- "Actually if you use the epc.tmobile.com access, you do not need to set the proxy settings since there are no port restrictions.
And it may be just an illusion but I feel that it is much faster too."
I was very sceptical... BUT THEN I TRIED IT AND IT WORKS GREAT!!! AND FASTER I AGREE!! AND FOR ONLY $5.99!! Plus I dont have all that T-Mobile stuff bothering me like TZones links and Shortcuts everywhere!! Its like I bought a HTC branded PHONE!! Anyway I just wanted to say THANKS A LOT!!!PATSPDAPHONE!!!

2 questions.. the $5.99 or $9.99 plan your talking about, is it unlimited, and second, Does it allow all sites? Because if so, I can find an old tmo phone, switch sims just to get it, but wanted to check 1st.

rpope904 said:
2 questions.. the $5.99 or $9.99 plan your talking about, is it unlimited, and second, Does it allow all sites? Because if so, I can find an old tmo phone, switch sims just to get it, but wanted to check 1st.
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Well I had the 5.99 T-Zones unlimited plan and never changed so I think im grandfather'd in if you know what I mean. I haven't checked too many websites but the ones I have gone to loaded fine... Do you have any specific sites in mind?

no, just in general.. Because, reading other posts, with the tzones plan, it would be just for tzones. I called them last week, the net for the wing is $24.99 now, for whatever they call it.. web2go because they are upgrading to 3G finally. (Although the wing is not a 3G phone..) But, I can't see paying that for internet on a phone, My DSL isn't that much.

fishwiz45 said:
yeah it's strange, i looked on my t-mo account and the area designated to signing up for new services no longer shows my t-zones 5.99. I hear they have gotten rid of it. BUT, when i change my phone type(the pic in the upper right corner of my t-mo page) to a moto razor and go back into account/services, the 5.99 t-zones web shows up! So! try switching to a moto razor on your my t-mobile page and see if it is an option in the account/change services links and report back. I know when i last signed up for t-zones i did it from a non pda phone via the handset and the t-zones page. then i pulled the sim card and put it in my wing. once i set the proxy settings the full web was available. right now I'm using the epc.tmobile.com site instead of wap.voicestream.com. i've heard that this works even without a subscription to a data plan but will only be available for a limited time. start/settings/connections/manage existing connections/modem/edit/access point name/epc.tmobile.com..... good luck!
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Holy crap, it worked! Hopefully they won't change it for a month or two, but even if it's just for a week, it worked!!!
By the time I find things on message boards, it's all been long changed, outdated.
PS Ok, I might have gotten a little carried away I can get to my Yahoo e-mail by bringing up Internet Explorer, but nothing else other than T-zones. Oh well, I have a lot to learn, but I'm trying.
Lol, I've had the phone for 6 months, and didn't know I could get yahoo email of IE without a data plan. The Push feature takes too long, and after trying 5 or 10 sites to no avail, I just assumed I coulen't get to Yahoo mail either. I go via Yahoo fromt page, and for some reason it lets me connect there, then to mail.

If you have web2go, you can NOT use epc, you have to use wap.
On my Wing, under Connections:
Name it something
Modem type is Cellular Line GPRS
Access point name is wap.voicestream.com
User, pass, domain is all blank
Remove any type of proxy settings.
If you have t-zones $5.99, you CAN use epc.tmobile.com.
Hope that helps.

Can I use $9.99 interent plan on my HD2?

Can I use $9.99 internet plan (web2go) on my HD2?

Doubtful and if you are going to get a discount on the phone you need to get the $30 data plan.

hkpkguy said:
Can I use $9.99 internet plan (web2go) on my HD2?
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No I don't think you can. You could even call t-mobile and ask them. Or are you trying to see if you could sign up with that data plan without them knowing its for your HD2? lol

it worked with my n900 but my hd2 could only get an edge connection with apn internet2.voicestream.com. epc.tmobile.com didn't work at all.

25$ here...but yeah the $10 will be a waste as it will be utterly slow and I doubt it will work properly.
The plans are all correlated to the OS, i.e. blackberry uses the BB internet plan, android the android plan, and WM the WM plan

yes you can use it.
you have to set the apn to wap.voicestream.com or epc.tmobile.com

I don't know about that, but there is a new $20 plan. It is for smartphones, but says "Preferred Smartphone Unlimited Web Only". I changed to this the other day and don't see any diffence from the $30 plan.

Of course you can use it; you're experience will be different however.
You will not be able to fully browse the web except when clicking on web2go links. You will not be able to watch mobiTV, use the barnes and nobles link or use any other data-related resources under this plan.
You can still use voice+SMS; it will continue to function as normal.

Yes it will work and it will allow you to use it on all the various programs like you would normally. I won't be 3G speed, i will be 2G speed.
just type the info via the apn and no u/n or p/w and you're there.
works on everything. mobitv runs a bit sluggish unless you are running over wifi anyway. Blockbuster and B&B download just fine

well, you guys are wrong, in fact I am still using my grandfathered tzone with 3g connection with my hd2, I had the touchpro before and also work.

using the $5.99 T-zone and works just fine, webbrowsing, utube, gmap,... you name it. For $6, I can't complain about the speed.

Yep...I concur with the last two posters, T-Zones ($5.99) plans works fine with the HD2. In fact, it worked right out of the box, no configuration at all was needed on my part. The $9.99 plan should work the same.

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well, you guys are wrong, in fact I am still using my grandfathered tzone with 3g connection with my hd2, I had the touchpro before and also work.
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I am on the same plan and have no problems using anything. As matter of fact my tzones is 5.99.....The only issue I have is having a 3G connection consistently.....

Same here 5.99 t-zones working fine I usually get consistent 3g connections.

Besides, depending on where you are the $30 doesn't give you 3G either. I get a beautiful Edge (and a spotty one at that) connection at home (mind you I live in the middle of Miami, FL).

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yes it will work and it will allow you to use it on all the various programs like you would normally. I won't be 3g speed, i will be 2g speed.
Just type the info via the apn and no u/n or p/w and you're there.
Works on everything. Mobitv runs a bit sluggish unless you are running over wifi anyway. Blockbuster and b&b download just fine
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i know am dumb but can you please help me exactly wht to do use 9.99 internet plan to work on my htc hd2, like a brief instruction step by step, it would be big help
thnkx

Mine work out the box on every thing including live TV, Bing navigation, etc.
I have the T-zone 5.95 plan

Do you have to unlock the phone for Web2go to work ?

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Mine work out the box on every thing including live TV, Bing navigation, etc.
I have the T-zone 5.95 plan
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Could you tell me how did u go about signing up for the t-zone? I can't seem to find it on their website.Thanks

I just tired the other day and i was told it's no longer available. You have to get the Web2go ($9.99/month) plan.