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quick question about tmo internet and tmo tzones

i'm fairly new to internet plans because i'm simply too cheap to pay for them. i've been thinking about signing up for an internet plan for my 8125 for a while now. i know in the tmobile stores they say that tzones can't work on a mda/wizard but i know thats crap. i'm pretty sure i've read somewhere that you can use the mda with tzones. i absolutely will not pay $30 a month for real html. its just not worth it for me. just to be sure though, if i had tzones can i only browse wap sites? if only wap sites can i browse them with pocket internet explorer and not that cheesy tmobile tzones browser? will i be able to use tzones with other data applications on my phone? will i be able to send email and log on to icq from tzones? is tzones unlimited?
any information would be great
(sorry if this thread is in the wrong place)

Last one first....you'd do better checking tmo's site, I have no idea what levels they have. That being said, if you don't do a whole lot, you should be fine with tzones. Most stuff works through it via proxy settings you can find on the site. The included IM app uses sms messages so it doesn't matter. If you use another IM app, however, you'll only be able to use it if you can change the connection port from the app to use one of the few ports open for tzones use. Email should be fine.
All that having also been said...a lot of people have been reporting that tzones is wide open and everything works. I have a feeling that they're working on something and this won't be the case for long so don't get complacent to wake up one morning and find nothing works except email. You get what you pay for.

I see your in NYC I'm in Jersey and over here the tzones is working without any proxy settings, I had been using tzones with the proxy settings for about 1 year and another user mentioned on the forums that it was working without the proxy.
With the proxy settings I was always able to check my gmail, browse the web with pocket internet explorer, but as markgamber said IMs don't work with the proxy, at the moment since I'm using it without the proxy everything is working fine.
I'm thinking that they might be fiddling around with the UMTS network or something, since they are already deploying it in some areas, and if I remember correctly by the end of this year it should be pretty much deployed everywhere.... or maybe they realized that it's not cool to charge customers a difference of $25 a month for the same service just because they have different phones.

I was playing with my 8125 at church and figured out how to get tzones... I dont have an internet plan, but I was accessing the internet and my pop3 mail with tzones (gprs) ...
Is tzones free???

There's definitely something going on, hmmm, I'll have to get someone who doesn't have tzones to try it out.

It works without proxy in NYC.
And If you don't have a plan, you might get charged by the KILO.

looks like i'm gonna be trying out tzones for a while.

Cingular data plan help

Ok I can't get straight awnsers out of cingular so xda to the rescue again. I want unlimited internet with the ability to stream via orb and need text messaging. I have no need or want to tether. So will a media max plan work or do I have to have the unlimited pda data plan?

I have the old Media Works Plan, (1500 txt, 200 MMS, and Unlimited internet, 19.99) and i have no problem on my 8525.

Do you use internet alot

yes, use it with IM+ for instant messenging. and web browsing

You are "supposed" to have the PDA Connect plan for an 8525, however the truth is that any of the cheaper MEdia Net plans will work.
But getting a rep to put you on that plan can prove difficult. Easiest thing to do is to keep a cheap/free 3G phone on hand like the LG CU-400 or 500. Put the IMEI for that LG on file with Cingular then they won't be the wiser. Just make sure you use the [email protected] login and not the [email protected] one.

can i not just add and change features via my account on the website?

Yes, you should be able to go to OLAM and change the feature there. Much easier than going through CS.

one other quick question. Will the media works package be able to use umts when it arrives.

chrisryn said:
one other quick question. Will the media works package be able to use umts when it arrives.
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That's a really good question! But I just read over at the cingular forums that with the mediamax bundle there is NO streaming of audio/video through medianet. but i connect with wap.cingular every time with my pdaconnect plan. I almost changed it but worried about this... anyone had any experience with this?

I have the PDA Unlimited plan for $40 and I have not had any problems yet.

Cingular dataplan
I have the mediamax unlimited 200 text plan for 19.99 and can do pretty much anything I want with it except connect to certain vpn's. I tried getting the rep at the store and the CS on the phone to change it from the PDA unlimited plan they autostuck me with, but they wouldnt do it so I did it myself online.

rainydaze said:
I have the mediamax unlimited 200 text plan for 19.99 and can do pretty much anything I want with it except connect to certain vpn's. I tried getting the rep at the store and the CS on the phone to change it from the PDA unlimited plan they autostuck me with, but they wouldnt do it so I did it myself online.
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COOL- im almost there.. but what i want to know specifically is if Orb or SiriusWM5 will stream without excess charges..And also, did you unselect your pdaplan and select your mediamax at the same time and then hit change? or did you do it in steps?

intrglctcrevfnk said:
COOL- im almost there.. but what i want to know specifically is if Orb or SiriusWM5 will stream without excess charges..And also, did you unselect your pdaplan and select your mediamax at the same time and then hit change? or did you do it in steps?
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i have mediamax, i have streamed orb and XM, have also tethered using the wap.cingular AP with no extra costs.

shogunmark said:
i have mediamax, i have streamed orb and XM, have also tethered using the wap.cingular AP with no extra costs.
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WONDERFULL!!!! The wizards at cingular's forums were saying this couldnt be done.. now between me and my wife I'll save 60 bucks a month!!

if my settings are wap.cingular and my login is also do i have to enable the proxy?

chrisryn said:
if my settings are wap.cingular and my login is also do i have to enable the proxy?
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nope... proxy is only good for using cingular's services, like medianet, etc

ok so i just changed over to the mediamax bundle.
all my settings are for wap.cingular so as long as I use that I have unlimited internet?
but If i want to use CV I have to have the proxy?

@shogunmark: do you anything about limit for unlimited accounts - when flags are rised?
I am considering swith to Cingular from T-Mobile. But I use much data - around 80-100 MB per mo. on TyTN and additionaly 200 MB on Network Data Card - same SIM card.
I was told that I should go for Laptop Connect Data plan but it is almost 60 USD per mo. - in my opinion it is too much.
So with mediamax - will I be safe?

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@shogunmark: do you anything about limit for unlimited accounts - when flags are rised?
I am considering swith to Cingular from T-Mobile. But I use much data - around 80-100 MB per mo. on TyTN and additionaly 200 MB on Network Data Card - same SIM card.
I was told that I should go for Laptop Connect Data plan but it is almost 60 USD per mo. - in my opinion it is too much.
So with mediamax - will I be safe?
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should be, i always use over 500meg a month, and thats just using my phone, i rarely tether, but when i have i didnt incur additional charges

shogunmark said:
should be, i always use over 500meg a month, and thats just using my phone, i rarely tether, but when i have i didnt incur additional charges
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What about access to MS Exchange? mediamax cover's it?

excess fees

How can I make the wing safe so I don't incur any unnecessary fees? I've read stories about how some used the internet and he was charged $2000 for only one month. Anyone with similar experience?

Get a program that monitors GPRS activity to make sure you don't go over your allotted data usage... or sign up for the unlimited data plan with your service provider.

Is there a plan i can get to prevent this? There's a data plan for $5.99. Do I need this plan if I plan to use AIM?

If you're going to use the Internet (beyond AIM/SMS/MMS).. things like google.com, or searches, or other websites..
Get the Total Internet Addon, $39.99/mo.. this also gives your phone wifi hotspot access when you're at a t-mobile hotspot
If you're Texting, I believe T-Mobile has 3 Texting plans:
4.99 = 400
9.99 = 1000
14.99 = Unlimited
These will not cover E-mails and any web-surfing...
IMO, if you want to prevent overages:
-Pick a minute plan you can't easily touch
-Get Total Internet Addon
-Get more Text messages then you think you need
I went with Unlimited Text and Internet, and my minute plan was a promotional rate (1000 min / 39.99) .. So basically I'll never see an overage charge.... Unless I go on T-Mobile web and download ringtones and wallpapers.. why would someone do that with the Wing? I don't know

BBM-Lee said:
If you're going to use the Internet (beyond AIM/SMS/MMS).. things like google.com, or searches, or other websites..
Get the Total Internet Addon, $39.99/mo.. this also gives your phone wifi hotspot access when you're at a t-mobile hotspot
If you're Texting, I believe T-Mobile has 3 Texting plans:
4.99 = 400
9.99 = 1000
14.99 = Unlimited
These will not cover E-mails and any web-surfing...
IMO, if you want to prevent overages:
-Pick a minute plan you can't easily touch
-Get Total Internet Addon
-Get more Text messages then you think you need
I went with Unlimited Text and Internet, and my minute plan was a promotional rate (1000 min / 39.99) .. So basically I'll never see an overage charge.... Unless I go on T-Mobile web and download ringtones and wallpapers.. why would someone do that with the Wing? I don't know
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Thanks for help! So if I decide to use starbucks wifi or my own wifi than I would need the total internet addon? What about the $5.99 data plan? What does that do?

Correction, unlimited internet is now only 19.99 for all phones.
It used to be 29.99 for wings and non blackberry (blackberry is 19.99), but now its all the same price..
Trust me, just get unlimited. Otherwise you'll be charged by the MB when you go over the limit, and it gets REALLY costly.
Also, WIFI is free, no matter where you are. As long as theres a signal, and internet on that signal, you can use wifi for free regardless what internet plan you have/dont have
the 5.99 data plan is like a dumbed down version of the internet in my opinion. It allows for quick online look ups (like places to eat, movies, sports, ect), but it lacks the FULL capability of the internet like included in the 19.99 package. But like I said, just get unlimited. Especially since its so cheap now, if you have a Smartphone or PPC, there's no reason NOT to get it.

oh, and one more thing. Those prices for messaging listed above are correct, UNLESS, you have MyFaves. If you do, then unlimited texting is only 9.99

TylerC161 said:
oh, and one more thing. Those prices for messaging listed above are correct, UNLESS, you have MyFaves. If you do, then unlimited texting is only 9.99
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Really? I have myfaves and they told me it's 14.99. What's the deal with that?

Tzones Hack Help....

so after months of having a stock rom, i decided to play with my wing again and tried to get the tzones 5.99 plan for my wing, but the rep said that it is no longer compatible...when checking online under my account, the plan doesn't appear...is there any other way i can get it back on??? thanks in advance

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jtarango1 said:
so after months of having a stock rom, i decided to play with my wing again and tried to get the t-zones 5.99 plan for my wing, but the rep said that it is no longer compatible...when checking online under my account, the plan doesn't appear...is there any other way i can get it back on??? thanks in advance
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yeah it's strange, i looked on my t-mo account and the area designated to signing up for new services no longer shows my t-zones 5.99. I hear they have gotten rid of it. BUT, when i change my phone type(the pic in the upper right corner of my t-mo page) to a moto razor and go back into account/services, the 5.99 t-zones web shows up! So! try switching to a moto razor on your my t-mobile page and see if it is an option in the account/change services links and report back. I know when i last signed up for t-zones i did it from a non pda phone via the handset and the t-zones page. then i pulled the sim card and put it in my wing. once i set the proxy settings the full web was available. right now I'm using the epc.tmobile.com site instead of wap.voicestream.com. i've heard that this works even without a subscription to a data plan but will only be available for a limited time. start/settings/connections/manage existing connections/modem/edit/access point name/epc.tmobile.com..... good luck!

t zones hacks
ok after going round and round with tmobile with my wife's behold i had figured out something the 5.99 tzones does no longer exist it's price has been raised to 9.99. depending on the device that is going to be using the tzones depends on what plans are available, so the trick is to find the oldest phone you have and place your simcard within. then goto tzones and sign up for the lowest data plan. the plans are not tied to the phone once the plan has been purchased but it does look at the device that is being used to access the web. for example my wife has a razr and and a samsung behold the behold is a 3g device while the razr is a standerd gsm device. now according to tmoble the behold will not work on the standard gsm plan. but that is wrong once ya change the proxy to the standard gsm proxy 216.155.165.50:8080 it will work now mind you you will not be able to stream anything but ya can still surf just as well also the 9.99 is limited to 100mb. my plan stemmed from a sony erricson t19 long story short the data plan is independent of the device (with the exception for a blackberry) after it has been activated its tied to the phone number on the sim but to sign up it depends on the device
-rastlin

Actually if you use the epc.tmobile.com access, you do not need to set the proxy settings since there are no port restrictions.
And it may be just an illusion but I feel that it is much faster too.

So if I put my SIM card in say a Razr, change my phone to a Razr and the data plan to the 9.99 data plan, and switch the SIM back in my Wing, I'll have full internet?
But what's the deal with the bandwidth limit? It's ONLY for the 9.99 plan no?

corrrect if memory serves me, the 9.99 is the lowest amount one get for a dataplan but they cap it @ 100mb the 5.99 is grandfathered in now depending on whom you ask in customer support ya may have access to it then it depends on the person you speak to and what level they are at as an employee for all you know they may not have access to that screen so just keep askin...
-rastlin

T-Mobile Web $5.99 is now web2go $9.99
T-Mobile Web $5.99 is now web2go $9.99. Since changing from wap.voicestream.com to epc.tmobile.com the proxy is no longer required with either service. One is simply grandfathered, the other is new service. A word of caution, changes to your plan and services online at My T-Mobile may result in removal of T-Mobile Web without you being aware of it, so before you lock whatever changes you have made in it is imperative you make sure you're not removing T-Mobile Web. I called their web support and tech support and raised holy hell with them about this sneaky little tactic being put in just before you make the final click to submit to the changes online. I do know T-Mobile is unlimited as in exactly that, unlimited. There is a fair usage policy on all of T-Mobile's new data plans including web2go and as many know, data usage is now included on your bill.

so if i get the $10 plan i can do everything with it that i would be able to do with the $25 plan but i am capped at 100MB correct?
edit: i changed my phone to a razor v3 the tmobile support page but the 10 dollar data plan is not there only the hotspot plan is that the same thing because i dont think that it is.

t-zones and data plans
i too had this happen to me and just found out last week when buyin my new Wing. i currently own a Moto RIZR, which is a really nice slide phone. and i had t-zone web for 5.99 and used opera mini. i turned it off for a few months and when i looked it was the new 9.99 plan. i have all the services t-mo offers and 5 lines and very happy its all good i have the 9.99 plan now.

well on the plus side its beats paying the full price that they are asking for.
-rastlin

Confused
OKay, I have a 3g iphone with 2.2 firmware. I added the tmobile plan for 9.99 so that I could hack tzones and get full internet. I have put epc.tmobile.com in my apn but I still can't roam the internet. I can only use tzones like is meant to be used. It says my plan restricts me from going to those sites, that if I want to upgrade click on the link. Ahhh. I am really frustrated on how I can get t-zones hacked! Help me please!

Tzones Hack Help....with iphone
well i dont konw about yall but i dont know much about the iphone it self since it is an apple product and i dont own any apple products, being the fact that they cost so darn much....
-ryan

this is a thread for the herald or wing not the iphone, you might wanna post in the right forum

Thanks patspdaphone!!
So I have been trying to get more on my Wing than is probly possible but hey thats the FUN of it! When I did a hard reset and then soft booted before all the T-Mobile crap was installed it saved me like 6MB of space which is a lot for us Wing users! Anyway my point is when I stopped all the T-Mobile stuff from loading, I guess a part of all of that is the T-Zones and I am using the New TouchFLO Manila 2D so it needs to connect to GPRS in order to get the weather and internet Tabs to work. When I read your post that says....
PATSPDAPHONE -- "Actually if you use the epc.tmobile.com access, you do not need to set the proxy settings since there are no port restrictions.
And it may be just an illusion but I feel that it is much faster too."
I was very sceptical... BUT THEN I TRIED IT AND IT WORKS GREAT!!! AND FASTER I AGREE!! AND FOR ONLY $5.99!! Plus I dont have all that T-Mobile stuff bothering me like TZones links and Shortcuts everywhere!! Its like I bought a HTC branded PHONE!! Anyway I just wanted to say THANKS A LOT!!!PATSPDAPHONE!!!

2 questions.. the $5.99 or $9.99 plan your talking about, is it unlimited, and second, Does it allow all sites? Because if so, I can find an old tmo phone, switch sims just to get it, but wanted to check 1st.

rpope904 said:
2 questions.. the $5.99 or $9.99 plan your talking about, is it unlimited, and second, Does it allow all sites? Because if so, I can find an old tmo phone, switch sims just to get it, but wanted to check 1st.
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Well I had the 5.99 T-Zones unlimited plan and never changed so I think im grandfather'd in if you know what I mean. I haven't checked too many websites but the ones I have gone to loaded fine... Do you have any specific sites in mind?

no, just in general.. Because, reading other posts, with the tzones plan, it would be just for tzones. I called them last week, the net for the wing is $24.99 now, for whatever they call it.. web2go because they are upgrading to 3G finally. (Although the wing is not a 3G phone..) But, I can't see paying that for internet on a phone, My DSL isn't that much.

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yeah it's strange, i looked on my t-mo account and the area designated to signing up for new services no longer shows my t-zones 5.99. I hear they have gotten rid of it. BUT, when i change my phone type(the pic in the upper right corner of my t-mo page) to a moto razor and go back into account/services, the 5.99 t-zones web shows up! So! try switching to a moto razor on your my t-mobile page and see if it is an option in the account/change services links and report back. I know when i last signed up for t-zones i did it from a non pda phone via the handset and the t-zones page. then i pulled the sim card and put it in my wing. once i set the proxy settings the full web was available. right now I'm using the epc.tmobile.com site instead of wap.voicestream.com. i've heard that this works even without a subscription to a data plan but will only be available for a limited time. start/settings/connections/manage existing connections/modem/edit/access point name/epc.tmobile.com..... good luck!
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Holy crap, it worked! Hopefully they won't change it for a month or two, but even if it's just for a week, it worked!!!
By the time I find things on message boards, it's all been long changed, outdated.
PS Ok, I might have gotten a little carried away I can get to my Yahoo e-mail by bringing up Internet Explorer, but nothing else other than T-zones. Oh well, I have a lot to learn, but I'm trying.
Lol, I've had the phone for 6 months, and didn't know I could get yahoo email of IE without a data plan. The Push feature takes too long, and after trying 5 or 10 sites to no avail, I just assumed I coulen't get to Yahoo mail either. I go via Yahoo fromt page, and for some reason it lets me connect there, then to mail.

If you have web2go, you can NOT use epc, you have to use wap.
On my Wing, under Connections:
Name it something
Modem type is Cellular Line GPRS
Access point name is wap.voicestream.com
User, pass, domain is all blank
Remove any type of proxy settings.
If you have t-zones $5.99, you CAN use epc.tmobile.com.
Hope that helps.

Can I use $9.99 interent plan on my HD2?

Can I use $9.99 internet plan (web2go) on my HD2?

Doubtful and if you are going to get a discount on the phone you need to get the $30 data plan.

hkpkguy said:
Can I use $9.99 internet plan (web2go) on my HD2?
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No I don't think you can. You could even call t-mobile and ask them. Or are you trying to see if you could sign up with that data plan without them knowing its for your HD2? lol

it worked with my n900 but my hd2 could only get an edge connection with apn internet2.voicestream.com. epc.tmobile.com didn't work at all.

25$ here...but yeah the $10 will be a waste as it will be utterly slow and I doubt it will work properly.
The plans are all correlated to the OS, i.e. blackberry uses the BB internet plan, android the android plan, and WM the WM plan

yes you can use it.
you have to set the apn to wap.voicestream.com or epc.tmobile.com

I don't know about that, but there is a new $20 plan. It is for smartphones, but says "Preferred Smartphone Unlimited Web Only". I changed to this the other day and don't see any diffence from the $30 plan.

Of course you can use it; you're experience will be different however.
You will not be able to fully browse the web except when clicking on web2go links. You will not be able to watch mobiTV, use the barnes and nobles link or use any other data-related resources under this plan.
You can still use voice+SMS; it will continue to function as normal.

Yes it will work and it will allow you to use it on all the various programs like you would normally. I won't be 3G speed, i will be 2G speed.
just type the info via the apn and no u/n or p/w and you're there.
works on everything. mobitv runs a bit sluggish unless you are running over wifi anyway. Blockbuster and B&B download just fine

well, you guys are wrong, in fact I am still using my grandfathered tzone with 3g connection with my hd2, I had the touchpro before and also work.

using the $5.99 T-zone and works just fine, webbrowsing, utube, gmap,... you name it. For $6, I can't complain about the speed.

Yep...I concur with the last two posters, T-Zones ($5.99) plans works fine with the HD2. In fact, it worked right out of the box, no configuration at all was needed on my part. The $9.99 plan should work the same.

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well, you guys are wrong, in fact I am still using my grandfathered tzone with 3g connection with my hd2, I had the touchpro before and also work.
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I am on the same plan and have no problems using anything. As matter of fact my tzones is 5.99.....The only issue I have is having a 3G connection consistently.....

Same here 5.99 t-zones working fine I usually get consistent 3g connections.

Besides, depending on where you are the $30 doesn't give you 3G either. I get a beautiful Edge (and a spotty one at that) connection at home (mind you I live in the middle of Miami, FL).

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yes it will work and it will allow you to use it on all the various programs like you would normally. I won't be 3g speed, i will be 2g speed.
Just type the info via the apn and no u/n or p/w and you're there.
Works on everything. Mobitv runs a bit sluggish unless you are running over wifi anyway. Blockbuster and b&b download just fine
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i know am dumb but can you please help me exactly wht to do use 9.99 internet plan to work on my htc hd2, like a brief instruction step by step, it would be big help
thnkx

Mine work out the box on every thing including live TV, Bing navigation, etc.
I have the T-zone 5.95 plan

Do you have to unlock the phone for Web2go to work ?

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Mine work out the box on every thing including live TV, Bing navigation, etc.
I have the T-zone 5.95 plan
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Could you tell me how did u go about signing up for the t-zone? I can't seem to find it on their website.Thanks

I just tired the other day and i was told it's no longer available. You have to get the Web2go ($9.99/month) plan.