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Using SmartPhone Connect Plan on TyTn/8525?

I've been thinking about switching from Tmobile to Cingular to benefit from their UMTS network.
Since I already have a TyTN I figured I would order a 3125 and get their Unlimited Smartphone Connect Plan.
I was wondering if this would work with the TyTN and what the settings are.
From what I've been reading online it seems that the Smartphone plan uses Cingular's wap proxy. I was wondering if this would affect the 3G performance.
I wouldn't use the TyTN for tethering (my monthly usage runs around 200-250MB, mostly mail and RSS).

Smartphone Connect Plan
I have the TyTn and have added the Cingular Extended Roms and all is working well... You can add the Cingular Wap settings via cab and depending on the Rom that you have installed, you may or may not have issues with the Express Mail settings and Phone Keypad...
Took me several days to figure out the right combination of Rom and Extended Roms, but I am happy at the moment...
debonairone

I thought I could manually configured the connection... I already have 2 mail accounts setup (one is my work Exchange (push) the other is my personal pop)... don't care much about XpressMail.
I'm running WM6 latest rom.

-If you need XpressMail, go with the SmartPhone connect.
-If you want 200 text messages/month, go with the MediaMax 200 Bundle
Both of those are $19.99, and give you unlimited internet
If you need VPN or isp.cingular, you'll have to get the more expensive PDA connect (or laptop connect) plans.
3G speed is not much worse on wap.cingular if it's worse at all. It's not difficult to setup the data accounts. There are actually very good tutorials on Cingular's website in the help section.

Thanks!
I have no use for the VPN at this point. Xpress mail may be a nice addition since right now I am pulling mail from my personal pop every 30min. Having the push option on this account as well would be nice.
I was just worries that the Smartphone connect plan would not work on a TyTN and that the wap proxy would make things slower (or prevent access to certain pages) but it looks like I'm getting a much cheaper deal yet retain pretty much all the functions I need!

Hi, I have the smartphone connect plan and am running it on my 8525. I bought the phone off eBay new in December and didn't want to get locked into a data contract for 2 years since my contract was up, so I bought the device outright and added this data plan.
I got the smartphone connect unlimited plan. I have been using this since then with good results. On my Cingular account section it actually shows that I have the 8525.
I am actually using it right now as a wireless modem. I have checked the speed and it's around 750 to 1mb overall. I believe it is using the wap.cingular and have full function. I have it pushing my email through my works exchange server and also use it for my personal msn account.

I am on the Cingular MediaNet plan....$19.99 works great here. One thing I would like to point out is that if you have t-mobile...you can just get the $4.99 t-zone..and you can surf all you want and checking emails. Too bad T-mobile's data speed is slow otherwise I would had kept my service.

wow thanks for all the tips! I didn't realize I could get the much cheaper tmobile plan as well.... i'm currently paying $30/month for unlimited data plus wifi which I never use anyways...
In any case from speaking with a few people i think the media max 200 seems like the smartest options as it offers unlimited data plus some text messages and i could use their media (TV) features if needed...
I just gotta figure out how to get the plan since it doesn't seem available to purchase with the Cingular 3125.

You can just add the features/plans you want online after you sign up for Cingular billing at the website.
I used to use T-Mobile as well, and I thought the $4.99 plan only gave you port 80 (http)? I was on an old $19.99/month plan which was unlimited GPRS/EDGE with no Hotspot, which I don't see as an option anymore.

What internet plan are you using for your Wing?

I have a T-Mobile Wing running Open Touch.
Everything on my phone is set... except for internet.
What are my available options for internet plans for my wing?
I want unlimited internet usage and unlimited text.
What is available and what is the best/cheapest plan to get so I can use it for Internet Explorer, Opera, Google Maps, Weather, etc.??

I just have unlimited text and unlimited data. I figured that's what every wing user had.

So, that's $14.99 for Unlimited text and $19.99 for Unlimited data..
Is there any other option? Or is this the only way to go..
Can I use the $5.99 T-Zones plan for internet?

ryansofresh said:
So, that's $14.99 for Unlimited text and $19.99 for Unlimited data..
Is there any other option? Or is this the only way to go..
Can I use the $5.99 T-Zones plan for internet?
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You can but don't expect it to be there when you need it. My daughter does the 5.99 and I on average 2 times a month I get asked to see if I can figure out why she can't go to Myspace in Opera Mini. It is usually her fault changing a setting but still I do expect the day that the loophole will be closed. As for myself I have unlimited text and data. I just like to use my phone as I want when I want. As a matter of fact today my ISP (Comcast) was having difficulties with the ambient temps around here so web was slow or not loading. So I used my phone's ICS to browse the forum.

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Thanks for the input..
So the Unlimited data is the best thing to do, but the $19.99 hurts, haha.
Say I get the T-Zones $5.99, once I get that activated, will my internet explorer, weather, google maps, etc work automatically?
Or do I have to change some settings and download some cabs before they work?
Can someone shed some light on what steps I have to take to get T-Zones internet to work my internet explorer, google maps, etc. after I activate it?

Unlimited will require no configuration changes. "If" you already have T-Mobile configurations present.
T-Zones will not work right away the proxy configurations are listed all over the forum and can be found via google. There is a decent amount of configuration edits. It can be tedious or work right the first try all a matter of how well you follow the directions and if the directions you find do indeed work.
Good Luck!
p.s. If you plan on using palringo (all in 1 IM) ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) the proxy did not work for me. Can't say that is true with everyone.
I just tried the proxy settings 2 nights ago with a friends sim card on my Wing just to show him what the benefits are of paying for proper service and not.
My opinion is get the Full Service it just works.

Thanks for your response.. really helpful.
I'm going to try the T-Zones for a while, if I hate it, then I'm going with the Unlimited Data Plan...

I have 1,000 texts for 8.99? and unlimited internet for 19.99. Get the internet, it's connected 24/7, I get all my emails,weather, browsing the web, downloads,

ryansofresh said:
I have a T-Mobile Wing running Open Touch.
Everything on my phone is set... except for internet.
What are my available options for internet plans for my wing?
I want unlimited internet usage and unlimited text.
What is available and what is the best/cheapest plan to get so I can use it for Internet Explorer, Opera, Google Maps, Weather, etc.??
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I have OT v.6 spb with T-zones 5.99 just need to set the prozy settings it works all time no worries, the only thing i cant do is get my yahoo mail, have to use wifi or connect to computer
and i have unlimited txt 19.99 i pay a little more cuz im on family plan

unlimited internet

i use no plan. I'm cheap.
wifi is fine for me.

I have to have it for my job... not to mention its convinient to have regardless.

fzzyrn said:
i use no plan. I'm cheap.
wifi is fine for me.
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Yeah, I'm too cheap for that too, but now I'm starting to rethink the 5.99 tzones though. Although, wi/fi works fine and anytime I need it, I can usually find a hotspot.

Because of work, I HAVE to have unlimited internet and the worldclass service, so that I can use my phone and internet from any country... If I wasn't always traveling on a monthly basis.

I got the Tzones set up the proxy like in the tutorial loaded up a few pages fine then i had to go to work...a couple hours later tried it again and this is the message that I get on internet explorer now...
"Error:request content '(website here)' cannot be accessed. You do not have access to the site."

wifi is fine for me it saves me 20 dollars a month...lol

I had t-zones for a while on my wing,one day it stopped working and couldn't get it to work for after a few days, I had to call t-mobile and asked what happened.They told me t-zones is for regular cells, not smartphones. I had to go with unlimited data.

someeh said:
I had t-zones for a while on my wing,one day it stopped working and couldn't get it to work for after a few days, I had to call t-mobile and asked what happened.They told me t-zones is for regular cells, not smartphones. I had to go with unlimited data.
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you goofed by not just telling them that you swap your sim out with another smaller phone once in a while that you DO use t-zones with. If they ask you why, just tell them it's none of their business Or if you are feeling nice then say that you're 2nd phone is for times when you want to use your smaller Samsung T-809 or whatever to keep in your pocket when you're out... like clubs, ect. The wing is not pocket friendly so that's what I actually do sometimes.
Bottom line is, they have no business canceling your t-zones without your permission.

Im on a $2.99 offer for Unlimited T-Zones and Unlimited Picture Messages
I use the T-Mo Proxy =]

Has anyone tried Web2go on G1 yet?

does anyone know how to configure web2go on g1? i believe the tzone config is no longer working!!!
Thanks

I've been using the 9.99 web2go for the past 2 months with internet2.voicestream.com APN. Just died on me yesterday, now everything redirects to m.web2go.com
I think this may be a final change this time , since before it used to redirect to some IP address.... I don't remember it anymore
It used to be that epc.tmobile.com didn't work but internet2 did... gonna wait a couple more days and see what happens.

I had been using *for years* the $5.99 t-zones grandfathered, both epc.tmobile.com with *no proxy* needed and wap.voicestream.com with the 216.155.165.50/8080 proxy, on many phones. internet2 and internet3 did not work for me.
On Wed when I got the G1, a data link was established over both epc and wap, but I always got redirected to the "you need a G1 data plan - upsell" web2go page.
I tried browsers that could spoof their user agent and still no go. I tried different T-Mo account SIMs that were not linked to a G1 and still no go. I tried the stock firmware, RC29, the latest JF 1.51, rooted, and unrooted. I tried a SIM with the $9.99 "web for phones" plan using internet2 and no go. It looks like T-Mo is detecting the G1, probably through the IMEI.
I've been searching for a few days for info on how to spoof the IMEI, using an app. It seems like on a rooted phone this should be possible?. But nothing.
I deleted my $4.99 400 messages and $5.99 GF'd t-zones and got the $24.99 G1 data + 400 messages plan. That's $14 more per month. Ouch. But I don't see a way around it at this time. Only when an IMEI spoof is available.

New info...
So I used my bro's SIM. He has had free data on his account using wap.voicestream.com and the 216./8080 proxy since he started service 5 or 6 years ago.
I stuck his SIM in my G1 and it gets data with the proxy. Browser and IM is all I tested. My account gave data for a few hours originally, so it'll be interesting to see what his account does in time.

wth
I hate people whom request services that they can't afford. I must say there is enough pirating that is done to where if you can't afford a cell phone data plan you need not have it.

$5.99 to $24.99?
I've been with PowerTel-VoiceStream-TMobile 12 years. I've had T-Mobile Web (Unlimited T-Zones) for several years. Do I deserve to have my plan increase in price 400 percent because I had the hindsight to jump on board when the prices were low? Someone explain to me why the Shadow's data plan gets to remain at $9.99 along with several of their 3G devices. Data is data is it not?

SnittyKitty said:
I've been with PowerTel-VoiceStream-TMobile 12 years. I've had T-Mobile Web (Unlimited T-Zones) for several years. Do I deserve to have my plan increase in price 400 percent because I had the hindsight to jump on board when the prices were low? Someone explain to me why the Shadow's data plan gets to remain at $9.99 along with several of their 3G devices. Data is data is it not?
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My guess is the data plans are low for other data devices because T-Mo assumes the data traffic on those devices will be lower than on a G1 or other full fledged smartphone os? Just a guess..

G1 and MyTouch3G are regularly pulling data for widgets, email, etc... maybe this is the underlying reason for their own data plans?

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G1 and MyTouch3G are regularly pulling data for widgets, email, etc... maybe this is the underlying reason for their own data plans?
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Not to mention IIRC the Web2go and T-Zones services were intended for WAP devices ("dumbphones"). Since T-Mobile began introducing phones with true browser functionality and datacards, they have offered more "proper" unlimited internet dataplans. Just because it happened to work with the G1 with a bit of tweaking doesn't mean that the T-Zones plans were ever intended for always-connected high-traffic devices like the G1.

Proxy internet for HD2 on T-mobile?

My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick

When the HD2 launches it will have a required data pack just like all other windows, blackberry's and android devices currently do. If a discount is recieved on the device then the data pack (minimum $25/month) is required, paying full retail price is the only way not to have it. T-zones is no longer offered by itself for $5.99/month unless your plan is a grandfathered plan that supports it but would only be able to be used if the phone was purchased at retail.

NickPDX said:
My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
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i use tmobile in uk if the proxy box is ticked my mail dosent load.

T-Mobile USA now uses the device IMEI for data plans
The proxy trick does not work anymore on Tmobile USA, they now use the phone's IMEI number to verify that the phone is on the correct data package. It works for about 24 hours now then when you try and access the internet you are sent to a screen to add the correct data package.

Proxy internet for HD2 on T-Mobile
I have T-mobile with the $5.99 T-Zones. I used it on the DASH and am now using it on a Touch VIVA. If I buy the HD2 from T-Mobile with no contract are they still going to force me to get a data plan or will my T-Zones stop working. I want to keep my T-Zones and may have to get an ulocked phone.

NickPDX said:
My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
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I'm currently with AT&T and about to switch to T-mobile when the HD2 comes out. When I spoke to the T-mobile rep., (trying to get him to set me up on the cheap data plans instead) He told me T-mobile can tell what phone you are using and know if it is on the correct plan. He also stated that if the phone is unlocked then you can trick their systems into letting you keep your old plan. Now again, I dont know if this is true or not, I am about to switch...hopefully this month, I'll find out then.
With AT&T, I have an old data plan (unlimited internet, 1500 text, 200 MMS) and I pay $19.95/month. they have never made me change my data plan and I am using the Tilt2. If you go through the priemer business website to upgrade your phone, they dont give you the $50 discount and you get to keep your data plan unchanged....all other channels force the upgrade with an updated data plan. Again, the only way around that is to buy your phone from someone else, unlocked, or have warranty dept. swap out your phone for a different model. My nephew has the $10 data plan and is now using the Tilt2 on it via warranty swapping out his phone for a different model (the Tilt2).
I know on the AT&T service you do get the 3g speeds, so I assume it will be the same for T-Mobile (but then again assuming may not be the best way to go). Hope that helped

I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?

NickPDX said:
I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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from what I was told, everything should work correctly and at the correct speed, as long as the phone is unlocked. The cell phone service providers don't seem to really offer different speeds at different rate plans like the cable internet companies do.

I had not seen your message from earlier ... we posted at the exact same time. Thanks though for your input. I will let her know. It seems like it is worth a try. Worst case scenario, she has a great phone but she has to use Wifi to check her mail and such.

NickPDX said:
I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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every other site works u can download email via direct site.then i noticed o2 network has its proxy unticked so when i was using tmobile i unticked it.now i can download email auto.
there was on promotional offer in uk.£10 top up u get unlimited txt and web.i used it on my htc shift as modem for a few months tmobile has no complained about going over fair usage policy on web unlike other networks.

Can I use $9.99 interent plan on my HD2?

Can I use $9.99 internet plan (web2go) on my HD2?

Doubtful and if you are going to get a discount on the phone you need to get the $30 data plan.

hkpkguy said:
Can I use $9.99 internet plan (web2go) on my HD2?
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No I don't think you can. You could even call t-mobile and ask them. Or are you trying to see if you could sign up with that data plan without them knowing its for your HD2? lol

it worked with my n900 but my hd2 could only get an edge connection with apn internet2.voicestream.com. epc.tmobile.com didn't work at all.

25$ here...but yeah the $10 will be a waste as it will be utterly slow and I doubt it will work properly.
The plans are all correlated to the OS, i.e. blackberry uses the BB internet plan, android the android plan, and WM the WM plan

yes you can use it.
you have to set the apn to wap.voicestream.com or epc.tmobile.com

I don't know about that, but there is a new $20 plan. It is for smartphones, but says "Preferred Smartphone Unlimited Web Only". I changed to this the other day and don't see any diffence from the $30 plan.

Of course you can use it; you're experience will be different however.
You will not be able to fully browse the web except when clicking on web2go links. You will not be able to watch mobiTV, use the barnes and nobles link or use any other data-related resources under this plan.
You can still use voice+SMS; it will continue to function as normal.

Yes it will work and it will allow you to use it on all the various programs like you would normally. I won't be 3G speed, i will be 2G speed.
just type the info via the apn and no u/n or p/w and you're there.
works on everything. mobitv runs a bit sluggish unless you are running over wifi anyway. Blockbuster and B&B download just fine

well, you guys are wrong, in fact I am still using my grandfathered tzone with 3g connection with my hd2, I had the touchpro before and also work.

using the $5.99 T-zone and works just fine, webbrowsing, utube, gmap,... you name it. For $6, I can't complain about the speed.

Yep...I concur with the last two posters, T-Zones ($5.99) plans works fine with the HD2. In fact, it worked right out of the box, no configuration at all was needed on my part. The $9.99 plan should work the same.

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well, you guys are wrong, in fact I am still using my grandfathered tzone with 3g connection with my hd2, I had the touchpro before and also work.
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I am on the same plan and have no problems using anything. As matter of fact my tzones is 5.99.....The only issue I have is having a 3G connection consistently.....

Same here 5.99 t-zones working fine I usually get consistent 3g connections.

Besides, depending on where you are the $30 doesn't give you 3G either. I get a beautiful Edge (and a spotty one at that) connection at home (mind you I live in the middle of Miami, FL).

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yes it will work and it will allow you to use it on all the various programs like you would normally. I won't be 3g speed, i will be 2g speed.
Just type the info via the apn and no u/n or p/w and you're there.
Works on everything. Mobitv runs a bit sluggish unless you are running over wifi anyway. Blockbuster and b&b download just fine
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i know am dumb but can you please help me exactly wht to do use 9.99 internet plan to work on my htc hd2, like a brief instruction step by step, it would be big help
thnkx

Mine work out the box on every thing including live TV, Bing navigation, etc.
I have the T-zone 5.95 plan

Do you have to unlock the phone for Web2go to work ?

abofihmi said:
Mine work out the box on every thing including live TV, Bing navigation, etc.
I have the T-zone 5.95 plan
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Could you tell me how did u go about signing up for the t-zone? I can't seem to find it on their website.Thanks

I just tired the other day and i was told it's no longer available. You have to get the Web2go ($9.99/month) plan.