AT&T Users - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I want to drop my pda data plan that is $40/month to the media max for $20/month. If I do this will I loose anything like outlook email or web surfing?

No, but youll be limited on the amount of data you can transfer without paying per kb. Dont you think that ATT would be a better place to ask this other than a software developers forum.

zeek112 said:
No, but youll be limited on the amount of data you can transfer without paying per kb. Dont you think that ATT would be a better place to ask this other than a software developers forum.
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They will ban you for such conversation.
Also the media max is unlimited data as well.
I was asking for user of AT&T options and what they use for there 8525.

Nioc said:
I want to drop my pda data plan that is $40/month to the media max for $20/month. If I do this will I loose anything like outlook email or web surfing?
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I use mediamax and do anything I want and never had any problems.

wpbear said:
I use mediamax and do anything I want and never had any problems.
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do you just have to route everything through wap.cingular? I heard if it goes through isp.cingular then they charge you per KB

I use just fine except for internet radio, at&t blocked the port or sevice that it was using, so I just did a vpn link with my home router and it works fine, But yeah unlimited data for 20.00 bucks a month yipee

Nioc said:
do you just have to route everything through wap.cingular? I heard if it goes through isp.cingular then they charge you per KB
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I use WAP and never had any ports blocked. I use xstreamxm and MusicDock too. See my sig for WAP setups in a few flavors.

Yeah i'm on the same plan and tether just about all the time since it's like having a 20 dollar dsl connection!

so what's the difference between the $20 dollar medianet service and the $40 service...?

Methadras said:
so what's the difference between the $20 dollar medianet service and the $40 service...?
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Nothing, except you have $20 less and ATT has $20 more every month.

ericc191 said:
Yeah i'm on the same plan and tether just about all the time since it's like having a 20 dollar dsl connection!
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I am visiting DFW this week for business.....just noticed your sig. Just wanted to give a shout out to DFW, I am enjoying the weather!

wpbear said:
I am visiting DFW this week for business.....just noticed your sig. Just wanted to give a shout out to DFW, I am enjoying the weather!
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Dfw here too, yup yup weather is finally nice!

Officially the MediaMax plan is not supposed to be used with PDA phone like the 8525. If you go to the Cingular store, they will not let you activate a MediaMax plan and will force you to use one of the PDA data plans. They are also not supposed to let you activate the MediaMax plan on-line or by phone if you have a PDA either. If you already were using MediaMax when you changed to a PDA phone like the 8525, then they do not catch that.

dlweston said:
Officially the MediaMax plan is not supposed to be used with PDA phone like the 8525. If you go to the Cingular store, they will not let you activate a MediaMax plan and will force you to use one of the PDA data plans. They are also not supposed to let you activate the MediaMax plan on-line or by phone if you have a PDA either. If you already were using MediaMax when you changed to a PDA phone like the 8525, then they do not catch that.
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how about if i called at&t and asked them to add the mediamax plan...?

Methadras said:
so what's the difference between the $20 dollar medianet service and the $40 service...?
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Terms of service. If they catch you using a PDA with the $20 service they'll likely drop your data plan and not let you resubscribe to it until you get the $40 service.

I found this about a month ago when I was looking for an answer to this similar question (but regarding tethering with a laptop & dataplans). I post it here in an effort to share something that may be useful to others with similar questions.
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What AT&T doesn't tell you is that all of the data plans are the same, they all work the same way, and there's no difference between the $20 media max data plan, $40 pda plan, or $60 laptop plan.
Well almost none, there is one difference which I'll explain. But the point is tethering or not, you'll never be charged a single penny more than your flat unlimited rate no matter what you do.
AT&T doesn't differentiate tethered data vs. phone-originated. To them it's all used the same way. The phone logs in to the data APN and uses data and in some case that can be coming/going to the laptop.
Officially for tethering or laptop data cards alike, you're supposed to have the $60 "laptop connect" aka "data connect" unlimited plan.
So what's the difference?
Here's a little primer on data plans.... AT&T has 3 access points (APN's or Access point names.)
1) wap.cingular
2) isp.cingular
3) blackberry.net
#3 is only on blackberry plans and it's necessary to use blackberry connect for your Treo if you were to try to use it. Otherwise, it's not interesting for this discussion.
For ALL AT&T phones (flip/bar phones,) Windows mobile, Symbian, Palm OS, laptop cards, and tethering.. in other words EVERYTHING that's not a Blackberry, they use APN #1 and #2 above (wap.cingular or isp.cingular.)
wap.cingular = NAT IP address. Basically IP address sharing you find on any corporate or home router.
isp.cingular = Public IP address. Exists for the purpose of supporting VPN clients, some of which have trouble working over NAT.
wap.cingular is intended for use with all phones, PDAs, etc.
isp.cingular is intended for data cards and tethering.
However, they're not mututally exclusive to those operations. You can use a phone on isp.cingular and tether on wap.cingular for example.
OK, now the data plans:
$20 Media Max 200 = wap.cingular only
$40 PDA "personal" Max (1500 text messages) = wap.cingular only
$40 PDA Connect Unlimited (aka PDA39) (no text messages) aka PDA enterprise = wap.cingular + isp.cingular
$60 laptop plan = wap.cingular + isp.cingular
Any plan with "tethering" will include isp.cingular + wap.cingular.
Any plan with "Personal" in the name will be wap.cingular only.
OK so what does all of this mean?
None of this means anything except that I'm trying to explain how the different data plans aren't different.
If you have a data plan that includes isp.cingular, you can use as well as tether on isp.cingular. If you have a plan with wap.cingular only, tether and only use wap.cingular, never use isp.cingular.
On plans that don't include isp.cingular, it should simply fail to connect. But to be safe make sure you don't see any kind of "internet pay per use" or similar wording on your features list. that would mean wap.cingular is unlimited and isp.cingular is "pay per use" rates.
This is how you'd get burned by a big bill and how people have been burned in the past. But AT&T seems to have fixed the problem and no longer put isp.cingular PPU on accounts anymore.
Just simply be aware of this so you can avoid it.
What APN you're using, you'll have to drill down in to the connection settings. The profile "My ISP" as well as "Media Net" are both set up by default to use wap.cingular (aka works on all plans.) Media net only differs in that it's set up to use a proxy.
You can also get more on this on a page I published here:
http://www.gadgetech.info/wireless/cingular/data/
Note, this is outdated. it was written before they introduced "PDA Personal" Max, so it doesn't reflect those new plans. But it is still educational if you want to know more about the difference between APNs.
Having said all of that, I have Media Max 200 and have had it for 4+ years on Treos. I've tethered, and use my SIM in laptop cards. I've never been charged extra. to be charged extra would be a billing error that AT&T should resolve.
PDANet is the easiest way to tether on a Treo 750.
When you get the WM6 upgrade, it has internet sharing built in which takes away the need for PDANet.
Note on WM6, the use "My ISP" not "ICS." "ICS" is set up to use isp.cingular.

Entropy512 said:
Terms of service. If they catch you using a PDA with the $20 service they'll likely drop your data plan and not let you resubscribe to it until you get the $40 service.
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So tell then you have a reg phone and if they want an IMEI then give them one from the stash you have in your closet (Everyone has a throwaway....at least they should)

subscribing to this.
I just got off the phone with AT&T about this very issue. Spent an hour on the phone with one of their network ppl. When I get some time on the laptop I will elaborate a bit more.
JB

Nioc said:
I want to drop my pda data plan that is $40/month to the media max for $20/month. If I do this will I loose anything like outlook email or web surfing?
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No you wont lose anything. But my friend had the $20/month plan and his phonebill was $350.00. I think its better to go with the unlimited data plan for $40.00 unless you live in a city that has free wifi. I just use wifi myself. I know AT&T hates that.

I just signed up online. Att doesn't know what phone i have or seem to anyway. I use wap.cingular login. $20 a month for about 6months now and no problems.
^^^^^$20 month plan is Unlimited. Intended for normal Cellphones not PDAs.

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Cingular Tethering Data charge

I know i saw this beat to death somewhere, but I can't seem to find it through search.
I have an unlimited pda connect.
Tethering cost the same as using the internet on your phone. I.E. If you have unlimited data, which you do, you can tether for free. In fact there are instructions on cingulars website. The only thing you have to worry about is if you have media net only you cannot use isp.cingular. But im about 85% sure your plan includes both wap.cingular and isp.cingular.
Thanks!
yeah, i have the setup working, got it right of cingular's site.
I found out earlier that I have 80,000KB of usage that i WASN'T on the unlim plan for. -- OUCH!
Didn't want a surprise like that to happen again, using tethered!

Using SmartPhone Connect Plan on TyTn/8525?

I've been thinking about switching from Tmobile to Cingular to benefit from their UMTS network.
Since I already have a TyTN I figured I would order a 3125 and get their Unlimited Smartphone Connect Plan.
I was wondering if this would work with the TyTN and what the settings are.
From what I've been reading online it seems that the Smartphone plan uses Cingular's wap proxy. I was wondering if this would affect the 3G performance.
I wouldn't use the TyTN for tethering (my monthly usage runs around 200-250MB, mostly mail and RSS).
Smartphone Connect Plan
I have the TyTn and have added the Cingular Extended Roms and all is working well... You can add the Cingular Wap settings via cab and depending on the Rom that you have installed, you may or may not have issues with the Express Mail settings and Phone Keypad...
Took me several days to figure out the right combination of Rom and Extended Roms, but I am happy at the moment...
debonairone
I thought I could manually configured the connection... I already have 2 mail accounts setup (one is my work Exchange (push) the other is my personal pop)... don't care much about XpressMail.
I'm running WM6 latest rom.
-If you need XpressMail, go with the SmartPhone connect.
-If you want 200 text messages/month, go with the MediaMax 200 Bundle
Both of those are $19.99, and give you unlimited internet
If you need VPN or isp.cingular, you'll have to get the more expensive PDA connect (or laptop connect) plans.
3G speed is not much worse on wap.cingular if it's worse at all. It's not difficult to setup the data accounts. There are actually very good tutorials on Cingular's website in the help section.
Thanks!
I have no use for the VPN at this point. Xpress mail may be a nice addition since right now I am pulling mail from my personal pop every 30min. Having the push option on this account as well would be nice.
I was just worries that the Smartphone connect plan would not work on a TyTN and that the wap proxy would make things slower (or prevent access to certain pages) but it looks like I'm getting a much cheaper deal yet retain pretty much all the functions I need!
Hi, I have the smartphone connect plan and am running it on my 8525. I bought the phone off eBay new in December and didn't want to get locked into a data contract for 2 years since my contract was up, so I bought the device outright and added this data plan.
I got the smartphone connect unlimited plan. I have been using this since then with good results. On my Cingular account section it actually shows that I have the 8525.
I am actually using it right now as a wireless modem. I have checked the speed and it's around 750 to 1mb overall. I believe it is using the wap.cingular and have full function. I have it pushing my email through my works exchange server and also use it for my personal msn account.
I am on the Cingular MediaNet plan....$19.99 works great here. One thing I would like to point out is that if you have t-mobile...you can just get the $4.99 t-zone..and you can surf all you want and checking emails. Too bad T-mobile's data speed is slow otherwise I would had kept my service.
wow thanks for all the tips! I didn't realize I could get the much cheaper tmobile plan as well.... i'm currently paying $30/month for unlimited data plus wifi which I never use anyways...
In any case from speaking with a few people i think the media max 200 seems like the smartest options as it offers unlimited data plus some text messages and i could use their media (TV) features if needed...
I just gotta figure out how to get the plan since it doesn't seem available to purchase with the Cingular 3125.
You can just add the features/plans you want online after you sign up for Cingular billing at the website.
I used to use T-Mobile as well, and I thought the $4.99 plan only gave you port 80 (http)? I was on an old $19.99/month plan which was unlimited GPRS/EDGE with no Hotspot, which I don't see as an option anymore.

Cingular data plan help

Ok I can't get straight awnsers out of cingular so xda to the rescue again. I want unlimited internet with the ability to stream via orb and need text messaging. I have no need or want to tether. So will a media max plan work or do I have to have the unlimited pda data plan?
I have the old Media Works Plan, (1500 txt, 200 MMS, and Unlimited internet, 19.99) and i have no problem on my 8525.
Do you use internet alot
yes, use it with IM+ for instant messenging. and web browsing
You are "supposed" to have the PDA Connect plan for an 8525, however the truth is that any of the cheaper MEdia Net plans will work.
But getting a rep to put you on that plan can prove difficult. Easiest thing to do is to keep a cheap/free 3G phone on hand like the LG CU-400 or 500. Put the IMEI for that LG on file with Cingular then they won't be the wiser. Just make sure you use the [email protected] login and not the [email protected] one.
can i not just add and change features via my account on the website?
Yes, you should be able to go to OLAM and change the feature there. Much easier than going through CS.
one other quick question. Will the media works package be able to use umts when it arrives.
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one other quick question. Will the media works package be able to use umts when it arrives.
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That's a really good question! But I just read over at the cingular forums that with the mediamax bundle there is NO streaming of audio/video through medianet. but i connect with wap.cingular every time with my pdaconnect plan. I almost changed it but worried about this... anyone had any experience with this?
I have the PDA Unlimited plan for $40 and I have not had any problems yet.
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I have the mediamax unlimited 200 text plan for 19.99 and can do pretty much anything I want with it except connect to certain vpn's. I tried getting the rep at the store and the CS on the phone to change it from the PDA unlimited plan they autostuck me with, but they wouldnt do it so I did it myself online.
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I have the mediamax unlimited 200 text plan for 19.99 and can do pretty much anything I want with it except connect to certain vpn's. I tried getting the rep at the store and the CS on the phone to change it from the PDA unlimited plan they autostuck me with, but they wouldnt do it so I did it myself online.
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COOL- im almost there.. but what i want to know specifically is if Orb or SiriusWM5 will stream without excess charges..And also, did you unselect your pdaplan and select your mediamax at the same time and then hit change? or did you do it in steps?
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COOL- im almost there.. but what i want to know specifically is if Orb or SiriusWM5 will stream without excess charges..And also, did you unselect your pdaplan and select your mediamax at the same time and then hit change? or did you do it in steps?
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i have mediamax, i have streamed orb and XM, have also tethered using the wap.cingular AP with no extra costs.
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i have mediamax, i have streamed orb and XM, have also tethered using the wap.cingular AP with no extra costs.
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WONDERFULL!!!! The wizards at cingular's forums were saying this couldnt be done.. now between me and my wife I'll save 60 bucks a month!!
if my settings are wap.cingular and my login is also do i have to enable the proxy?
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if my settings are wap.cingular and my login is also do i have to enable the proxy?
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nope... proxy is only good for using cingular's services, like medianet, etc
ok so i just changed over to the mediamax bundle.
all my settings are for wap.cingular so as long as I use that I have unlimited internet?
but If i want to use CV I have to have the proxy?
@shogunmark: do you anything about limit for unlimited accounts - when flags are rised?
I am considering swith to Cingular from T-Mobile. But I use much data - around 80-100 MB per mo. on TyTN and additionaly 200 MB on Network Data Card - same SIM card.
I was told that I should go for Laptop Connect Data plan but it is almost 60 USD per mo. - in my opinion it is too much.
So with mediamax - will I be safe?
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@shogunmark: do you anything about limit for unlimited accounts - when flags are rised?
I am considering swith to Cingular from T-Mobile. But I use much data - around 80-100 MB per mo. on TyTN and additionaly 200 MB on Network Data Card - same SIM card.
I was told that I should go for Laptop Connect Data plan but it is almost 60 USD per mo. - in my opinion it is too much.
So with mediamax - will I be safe?
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should be, i always use over 500meg a month, and thats just using my phone, i rarely tether, but when i have i didnt incur additional charges
shogunmark said:
should be, i always use over 500meg a month, and thats just using my phone, i rarely tether, but when i have i didnt incur additional charges
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What about access to MS Exchange? mediamax cover's it?

Tzones Hack Help....

so after months of having a stock rom, i decided to play with my wing again and tried to get the tzones 5.99 plan for my wing, but the rep said that it is no longer compatible...when checking online under my account, the plan doesn't appear...is there any other way i can get it back on??? thanks in advance
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jtarango1 said:
so after months of having a stock rom, i decided to play with my wing again and tried to get the t-zones 5.99 plan for my wing, but the rep said that it is no longer compatible...when checking online under my account, the plan doesn't appear...is there any other way i can get it back on??? thanks in advance
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yeah it's strange, i looked on my t-mo account and the area designated to signing up for new services no longer shows my t-zones 5.99. I hear they have gotten rid of it. BUT, when i change my phone type(the pic in the upper right corner of my t-mo page) to a moto razor and go back into account/services, the 5.99 t-zones web shows up! So! try switching to a moto razor on your my t-mobile page and see if it is an option in the account/change services links and report back. I know when i last signed up for t-zones i did it from a non pda phone via the handset and the t-zones page. then i pulled the sim card and put it in my wing. once i set the proxy settings the full web was available. right now I'm using the epc.tmobile.com site instead of wap.voicestream.com. i've heard that this works even without a subscription to a data plan but will only be available for a limited time. start/settings/connections/manage existing connections/modem/edit/access point name/epc.tmobile.com..... good luck!
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ok after going round and round with tmobile with my wife's behold i had figured out something the 5.99 tzones does no longer exist it's price has been raised to 9.99. depending on the device that is going to be using the tzones depends on what plans are available, so the trick is to find the oldest phone you have and place your simcard within. then goto tzones and sign up for the lowest data plan. the plans are not tied to the phone once the plan has been purchased but it does look at the device that is being used to access the web. for example my wife has a razr and and a samsung behold the behold is a 3g device while the razr is a standerd gsm device. now according to tmoble the behold will not work on the standard gsm plan. but that is wrong once ya change the proxy to the standard gsm proxy 216.155.165.50:8080 it will work now mind you you will not be able to stream anything but ya can still surf just as well also the 9.99 is limited to 100mb. my plan stemmed from a sony erricson t19 long story short the data plan is independent of the device (with the exception for a blackberry) after it has been activated its tied to the phone number on the sim but to sign up it depends on the device
-rastlin
Actually if you use the epc.tmobile.com access, you do not need to set the proxy settings since there are no port restrictions.
And it may be just an illusion but I feel that it is much faster too.
So if I put my SIM card in say a Razr, change my phone to a Razr and the data plan to the 9.99 data plan, and switch the SIM back in my Wing, I'll have full internet?
But what's the deal with the bandwidth limit? It's ONLY for the 9.99 plan no?
corrrect if memory serves me, the 9.99 is the lowest amount one get for a dataplan but they cap it @ 100mb the 5.99 is grandfathered in now depending on whom you ask in customer support ya may have access to it then it depends on the person you speak to and what level they are at as an employee for all you know they may not have access to that screen so just keep askin...
-rastlin
T-Mobile Web $5.99 is now web2go $9.99
T-Mobile Web $5.99 is now web2go $9.99. Since changing from wap.voicestream.com to epc.tmobile.com the proxy is no longer required with either service. One is simply grandfathered, the other is new service. A word of caution, changes to your plan and services online at My T-Mobile may result in removal of T-Mobile Web without you being aware of it, so before you lock whatever changes you have made in it is imperative you make sure you're not removing T-Mobile Web. I called their web support and tech support and raised holy hell with them about this sneaky little tactic being put in just before you make the final click to submit to the changes online. I do know T-Mobile is unlimited as in exactly that, unlimited. There is a fair usage policy on all of T-Mobile's new data plans including web2go and as many know, data usage is now included on your bill.
so if i get the $10 plan i can do everything with it that i would be able to do with the $25 plan but i am capped at 100MB correct?
edit: i changed my phone to a razor v3 the tmobile support page but the 10 dollar data plan is not there only the hotspot plan is that the same thing because i dont think that it is.
t-zones and data plans
i too had this happen to me and just found out last week when buyin my new Wing. i currently own a Moto RIZR, which is a really nice slide phone. and i had t-zone web for 5.99 and used opera mini. i turned it off for a few months and when i looked it was the new 9.99 plan. i have all the services t-mo offers and 5 lines and very happy its all good i have the 9.99 plan now.
well on the plus side its beats paying the full price that they are asking for.
-rastlin
Confused
OKay, I have a 3g iphone with 2.2 firmware. I added the tmobile plan for 9.99 so that I could hack tzones and get full internet. I have put epc.tmobile.com in my apn but I still can't roam the internet. I can only use tzones like is meant to be used. It says my plan restricts me from going to those sites, that if I want to upgrade click on the link. Ahhh. I am really frustrated on how I can get t-zones hacked! Help me please!
Tzones Hack Help....with iphone
well i dont konw about yall but i dont know much about the iphone it self since it is an apple product and i dont own any apple products, being the fact that they cost so darn much....
-ryan
this is a thread for the herald or wing not the iphone, you might wanna post in the right forum
Thanks patspdaphone!!
So I have been trying to get more on my Wing than is probly possible but hey thats the FUN of it! When I did a hard reset and then soft booted before all the T-Mobile crap was installed it saved me like 6MB of space which is a lot for us Wing users! Anyway my point is when I stopped all the T-Mobile stuff from loading, I guess a part of all of that is the T-Zones and I am using the New TouchFLO Manila 2D so it needs to connect to GPRS in order to get the weather and internet Tabs to work. When I read your post that says....
PATSPDAPHONE -- "Actually if you use the epc.tmobile.com access, you do not need to set the proxy settings since there are no port restrictions.
And it may be just an illusion but I feel that it is much faster too."
I was very sceptical... BUT THEN I TRIED IT AND IT WORKS GREAT!!! AND FASTER I AGREE!! AND FOR ONLY $5.99!! Plus I dont have all that T-Mobile stuff bothering me like TZones links and Shortcuts everywhere!! Its like I bought a HTC branded PHONE!! Anyway I just wanted to say THANKS A LOT!!!PATSPDAPHONE!!!
2 questions.. the $5.99 or $9.99 plan your talking about, is it unlimited, and second, Does it allow all sites? Because if so, I can find an old tmo phone, switch sims just to get it, but wanted to check 1st.
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2 questions.. the $5.99 or $9.99 plan your talking about, is it unlimited, and second, Does it allow all sites? Because if so, I can find an old tmo phone, switch sims just to get it, but wanted to check 1st.
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Well I had the 5.99 T-Zones unlimited plan and never changed so I think im grandfather'd in if you know what I mean. I haven't checked too many websites but the ones I have gone to loaded fine... Do you have any specific sites in mind?
no, just in general.. Because, reading other posts, with the tzones plan, it would be just for tzones. I called them last week, the net for the wing is $24.99 now, for whatever they call it.. web2go because they are upgrading to 3G finally. (Although the wing is not a 3G phone..) But, I can't see paying that for internet on a phone, My DSL isn't that much.
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yeah it's strange, i looked on my t-mo account and the area designated to signing up for new services no longer shows my t-zones 5.99. I hear they have gotten rid of it. BUT, when i change my phone type(the pic in the upper right corner of my t-mo page) to a moto razor and go back into account/services, the 5.99 t-zones web shows up! So! try switching to a moto razor on your my t-mobile page and see if it is an option in the account/change services links and report back. I know when i last signed up for t-zones i did it from a non pda phone via the handset and the t-zones page. then i pulled the sim card and put it in my wing. once i set the proxy settings the full web was available. right now I'm using the epc.tmobile.com site instead of wap.voicestream.com. i've heard that this works even without a subscription to a data plan but will only be available for a limited time. start/settings/connections/manage existing connections/modem/edit/access point name/epc.tmobile.com..... good luck!
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Holy crap, it worked! Hopefully they won't change it for a month or two, but even if it's just for a week, it worked!!!
By the time I find things on message boards, it's all been long changed, outdated.
PS Ok, I might have gotten a little carried away I can get to my Yahoo e-mail by bringing up Internet Explorer, but nothing else other than T-zones. Oh well, I have a lot to learn, but I'm trying.
Lol, I've had the phone for 6 months, and didn't know I could get yahoo email of IE without a data plan. The Push feature takes too long, and after trying 5 or 10 sites to no avail, I just assumed I coulen't get to Yahoo mail either. I go via Yahoo fromt page, and for some reason it lets me connect there, then to mail.
If you have web2go, you can NOT use epc, you have to use wap.
On my Wing, under Connections:
Name it something
Modem type is Cellular Line GPRS
Access point name is wap.voicestream.com
User, pass, domain is all blank
Remove any type of proxy settings.
If you have t-zones $5.99, you CAN use epc.tmobile.com.
Hope that helps.

Has anyone tried Web2go on G1 yet?

does anyone know how to configure web2go on g1? i believe the tzone config is no longer working!!!
Thanks
I've been using the 9.99 web2go for the past 2 months with internet2.voicestream.com APN. Just died on me yesterday, now everything redirects to m.web2go.com
I think this may be a final change this time , since before it used to redirect to some IP address.... I don't remember it anymore
It used to be that epc.tmobile.com didn't work but internet2 did... gonna wait a couple more days and see what happens.
I had been using *for years* the $5.99 t-zones grandfathered, both epc.tmobile.com with *no proxy* needed and wap.voicestream.com with the 216.155.165.50/8080 proxy, on many phones. internet2 and internet3 did not work for me.
On Wed when I got the G1, a data link was established over both epc and wap, but I always got redirected to the "you need a G1 data plan - upsell" web2go page.
I tried browsers that could spoof their user agent and still no go. I tried different T-Mo account SIMs that were not linked to a G1 and still no go. I tried the stock firmware, RC29, the latest JF 1.51, rooted, and unrooted. I tried a SIM with the $9.99 "web for phones" plan using internet2 and no go. It looks like T-Mo is detecting the G1, probably through the IMEI.
I've been searching for a few days for info on how to spoof the IMEI, using an app. It seems like on a rooted phone this should be possible?. But nothing.
I deleted my $4.99 400 messages and $5.99 GF'd t-zones and got the $24.99 G1 data + 400 messages plan. That's $14 more per month. Ouch. But I don't see a way around it at this time. Only when an IMEI spoof is available.
New info...
So I used my bro's SIM. He has had free data on his account using wap.voicestream.com and the 216./8080 proxy since he started service 5 or 6 years ago.
I stuck his SIM in my G1 and it gets data with the proxy. Browser and IM is all I tested. My account gave data for a few hours originally, so it'll be interesting to see what his account does in time.
wth
I hate people whom request services that they can't afford. I must say there is enough pirating that is done to where if you can't afford a cell phone data plan you need not have it.
$5.99 to $24.99?
I've been with PowerTel-VoiceStream-TMobile 12 years. I've had T-Mobile Web (Unlimited T-Zones) for several years. Do I deserve to have my plan increase in price 400 percent because I had the hindsight to jump on board when the prices were low? Someone explain to me why the Shadow's data plan gets to remain at $9.99 along with several of their 3G devices. Data is data is it not?
SnittyKitty said:
I've been with PowerTel-VoiceStream-TMobile 12 years. I've had T-Mobile Web (Unlimited T-Zones) for several years. Do I deserve to have my plan increase in price 400 percent because I had the hindsight to jump on board when the prices were low? Someone explain to me why the Shadow's data plan gets to remain at $9.99 along with several of their 3G devices. Data is data is it not?
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My guess is the data plans are low for other data devices because T-Mo assumes the data traffic on those devices will be lower than on a G1 or other full fledged smartphone os? Just a guess..
G1 and MyTouch3G are regularly pulling data for widgets, email, etc... maybe this is the underlying reason for their own data plans?
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G1 and MyTouch3G are regularly pulling data for widgets, email, etc... maybe this is the underlying reason for their own data plans?
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Not to mention IIRC the Web2go and T-Zones services were intended for WAP devices ("dumbphones"). Since T-Mobile began introducing phones with true browser functionality and datacards, they have offered more "proper" unlimited internet dataplans. Just because it happened to work with the G1 with a bit of tweaking doesn't mean that the T-Zones plans were ever intended for always-connected high-traffic devices like the G1.

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