MiniSD card Work around!!!! - P3600 General

I have had the same problem as most of you. Here is an semi-HONEST answer from HTC..........
"Dear Customer,
Thanks for your email regarding your P3600.? The issue you describe is something we are aware of and are currently in the process of rectifying.? It seems to be linked in some way to the latest updates to Windows Mobile 5 and as such we have also enlisted Microsoft's help in solving this.? It seems that the device is accessing the memory while it is in an idle state.
We are currently still investigating the matter with the help of our engineers in Taiwan, but in the meantime, to workaround the problem you can set the device to turn itself off after 1 minute in the power options, then let the device turn itself off instead of pressing the power button.
Once we have fixed the problem, I have no doubt it will be released in some sort of ROM update in the near future.
Thank you for your patience in this matter. "
Although they blame it on someone else, as usual, they are aware of this problem. I have not heard of this problem in the TyTn and it is basically the same

I'll try this. Thanks for the info.

jmermel said:
We are currently still investigating the matter with the help of our engineers in Taiwan, but in the meantime, to workaround the problem you can set the device to turn itself off after 1 minute in the power options, then let the device turn itself off instead of pressing the power button.
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Ok now I know why I never had problems with my miniSD card!!! That's exactly my configuration! And 99% of the times I let the phone turn itself off after 1 minute without pressing the power button....

That´s just stupid i always press the power button and no issues from this side, had them with a kingston card but not with my actual sandisk.
cheers

Same here, I always use the power button and use a Sandisk without issues.(never tried other brands)

Apoc and fluke, your logic is flawed. Just because you don't get the effect with certain cards doesn't mean its not broken.
How about this scenario:
auto-turn of always works (card independant)
power-off fails on some cards (like Kingston)
Clearly your experiences do not contradict their explanation

Sorry, but I'm just supplying user-feedback, that's what happens with my trinity+sandisk. I'm not supporting X or Y's logic.

The "auto turn off" trick doesn't work for me. I have a takems 2GB minisd card.

Apoc said:
Sorry, but I'm just supplying user-feedback, that's what happens with my trinity+sandisk. I'm not supporting X or Y's logic.
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Lógica da batata
cheers
Abraços

I am using a Kingston 2GB mini SD, and I don't have that problem...yet.

I have a Kingston too 2GB no problem in the phone. However, when I transfer mp3s from my dell laptop (with built in SD card reader) I get I/O errors (I've reformatted, and tried with other SD cards that have no problem). When I transfer to the card over activesync through the phone i have no issues... it just takes a year to do it. Any one else?

Hok said:
I have a Kingston too 2GB no problem in the phone. However, when I transfer mp3s from my dell laptop (with built in SD card reader) I get I/O errors (I've reformatted, and tried with other SD cards that have no problem). When I transfer to the card over activesync through the phone i have no issues... it just takes a year to do it. Any one else?
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Try an external card reader, make sure that it is fiinished writing before removing the card.

Hok said:
I have a Kingston too 2GB no problem in the phone. However, when I transfer mp3s from my dell laptop (with built in SD card reader) I get I/O errors (I've reformatted, and tried with other SD cards that have no problem). When I transfer to the card over activesync through the phone i have no issues... it just takes a year to do it. Any one else?
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Hi, hok can you please tell us what you get if in dos prompt you tupe chkdsk in your miniSD 2Gb? i just can's format my miniSD in FAT whith a 16K cluster file........ just in 32K cluster file but my trinity don't recognize it.....

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HELP SD Card error

I can't read my SD card anymore...I also can't format it... i try format it with my digital camera but still not working.... what else i can do...??? :x :?: :?: :?: :?:
tried storage tools or pocket mechanic ?
tried more then 1 sd card reader ?
if nothing helps RMA the sd card if it's still under warrenty
I have had the same problem ever since I bought a 1GB Viking Card... I´ve posted about this before on the Wallaby pages. My 512 Mb Card is completely stable, but the "one gigger" refuses all the time, I'm on the 3rd now... My only comfort is that I have the same supplier on XDAII and SD Cards :?
The problem is that it seems to be no possible way to rescue the card, I've tried a number of softwares and a couple of different readers, it just doesn´t work, I don´t know if the FAT gets hacked in pieces or what it might be i´m getting quite bored of it now. At first I thought I did wrong when inserting a card on which I copied files before initializing it in the device, but that only had impact on the time that went before crashing: Bad initialization - crash within 1-3 days, Good initialization - crash after after 6 weeks.
One more sad thing about this is that it seems that upgrading to WM5 doesn´t solve it...
I tried to install a minor regkey fix that was told to solve the problem (in the Wallaby forum), but the only thing I got from that was sudden frequent needs of hard resetting... :evil:
I don´t really know what to do, but the question is important to try to solve I think. Let´s see what comes out here in a while shall we ???
Rudegar said:
tried storage tools or pocket mechanic ?
tried more then 1 sd card reader ?
if nothing helps RMA the sd card if it's still under warrenty
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i have try it but unfortunately still not detected...
Has anyone made any progress on this?
So far, my XDA has destroyed a 1GB Toshiba card, and a 512MB Toshiba card.
My 256MB Kingston card is fine...
The 1GB, Amazon replaced for free.
When I say dead, I MEAN dead!
Linux reports "block read error" when trying to access either of them - it's like the FAT descriptor block is being worn out!
Nothing (PDA / Linux / Windoze) can format these things.
A RAW read on the card returns nothing (block read error under linux, hang under Windoze!)
I think my next step is a pointless e-mail to O2 asking what they are going to do - their phone has destroyed two of my cards!
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SD Card Problem
I currently work for Islington Council in London, and i am heading up a project where all the Directors/managers are recieving an XDA IIi.
I am currently speaking to someone at O2 who handles the corperate side of their orders. Im sure i will have more sway with them to sort this problem, as we are experiencing a lot of SD card problems and i have multiple orders to be completed. Ive done 60 so far with the intention of doing around 400 within the next year.
Anyone who has been having this VERY annoying problem and going through SD cards like theres no tomorrow please post here as i will be sending him this link so that he can see how common the problem really is.
Cheers for your help guys, im sure we can sort something out ! even if it is only a reason for why its happening !

SD card disappeared *POOF*

Hi all,
Had my XDAIIi for a month or so now... beside the odd lockup it's been more or less trouble-free.
However, I put the phone in the cradle today and got a strange message from WMP about sync settings... upon further investigation I found that my storage card is no longer recognised by my phone. It a Viking 512mb card.
I can't see it on File Explorer or via exploring on Active Sync. It's as if no card is plugged in... I tried another old 8mb card that I had and it works fine.
What should I do. Try to return the card, or is there a way I can reformat it? Any advice would be helpful...
Hi
I got the same problem, this is the second SD, I got the same weird msg.
Did you find a way to fix it?
The SD is not recognize neither in digitals cameras (tried only one) or other pocket pcs (other XDAlli and an HP).
I've heard form some friend that lot of people are getting this problem...
maybe vikings are troublesome..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25433&highlight=viking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24546&highlight=viking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=17636&highlight=viking
Yep my new XDAlli killed a dane-lec 512mb card after a couple of weeks.. Couldn't use it in anything. Got another 512mb card this time branded as PRT?? card has been OK for the last 4 weeks but I do get the "storage card detected - search for audio & video files" message every now and then.. I also find the XDA can't see the card sometimes but a quick removal & replacement fixes the issue. I have also notice xbackup now takes around 10 mins..It was taking over an hour with the dane-lec...
I'm sure there is a compatibility issue with somecards..
AMAZING
I just read this post out of interest, casually browsing through the forum waiting for 5 o'clock :roll:, went to my XDA 2 and guess what.... no storage card!!!
Forunately, a soft reset was all it needed but how spooky :shock:
odd my xda2 like all others take a few sec's to reinit the sd card when it wakes up
and if it's needing some batt it dont
i've used sandisk slow version 128MB
and now kingston ultra something something 512MB
never had any issues apart from the sandisk being superslow
So once it's toast, is it really toast or can I somehow reformat it?
I guess I'll try to return it...
Can anyone recommend a card that hasn't reported any issues?
I am having the same problem... I am using PNY cards and am now on my fourth card. I am going to try a new branded card when i get the chance. People seem satisfied with ScanDisk cards so am going to try them.
MMCdata not seen
My XDA II recognize my MMC but file explorer does not show all of the data. Even my card reader does not show the data in MMC. But memory shows that Card is in use and all of the data is there as shown by the memory used... Please help!

Storage Card Freezes Device On Resume?

hey guys, just wondering if this is a known bug on universals or just several roms or if i have a dodgy universal or sd card in general:
It seems when i bring the device out of standby mode after a long period of inactivity, i enter my password and the device just freezes, locks up - Dead.
When I take the storage card out and repeat, the device is fine which lead me to believe the card was duffly formatted, so i stuck it in my card reader and formatted it into FAT32 and then put all my data back on... same problem!
So i then flashed my device from the QTEK rom to the o2 rom in corp mode to see if i still had the issue... was fine for a short while then earlier today i turned it back out of standby and same problem!
So i've narrowed it not to be the storage cards fault, since the card works fine in my xda 2s, and card reader and it seems to either be a subsequent issue in the o2 and qtek roms, or maybe ive got a duff universal with dodgy card slot?
Is this lockup issue a known bug?
Sometimes when i get lucky the device doesnt lock up but instead the card disappears from the system view, and only removing the battery and then rebooting solves it.
If anyone can shed any light i'd appreciate it!
had similar problem
On my compact and PRO (univsersal) I had 1 1gb SD card that always gave a message improperly removed when the device came out of standby.
Used the card that came with my PRO , a 512mb SANDISK no problem.
Put the 1gb in my panasonic camera its fine. the 16MB that came with my camera but branded panasonic works fine in my PRO, left the 512 in my compact for as MP3 with bluetooth headphones.
I think the compact had less problems after a recent T-mobile ROM update.
I think the Compact and PRO are both fussy what cards they use. My 1gb SD card is a generiic 66x. Also I think that there are some bugs to be ironed out with power management.
BTW should it be flashed in FAT or FAT32, some devices can only read FAT I believe.
If you use standby/suspend and you have media files (music/books/etc) on the SD card and the app in main memory you'll have problems when you re-start. I get this problem with MS Reader and eBooks all the time. Looks like another bug in WM5 to me.
jah said:
If you use standby/suspend and you have media files (music/books/etc) on the SD card and the app in main memory you'll have problems when you re-start. I get this problem with MS Reader and eBooks all the time. Looks like another bug in WM5 to me.
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Funny, I have all of my apps on the Main Memory, and my .prc's, .avi's, and .ogg's on the storage card, and I've never had this problem?
(I'm using a 1 Gig Jessops card that originally came with my camera, no idea what it "really" is though)
@sun69,
the problem only occurs if you use powersave/suspend and you leave a media file open, eg when reading an ebook.
this also happens when you have a 2577 folder on the sd card and do not have a start.exe in it. It will let the device hang.
Ive found the problem to be with the SD card itself, if i use the 128mb Sandisk from my Xda II s it's fine,but within ten minutes of sticking the 512 Lexitar card in, the whole device is ten feet under...
Looks like ill need another
MurphmanL
I reformatted my 2GB SD card and one problem I had with WM5 reporting a shortage or RAM went away. Not really sure why the Exec seems to be so sensitive about SD cards.
Actually this reminds me... I used a 1GB KINGMAX SD card in my XDA II Mini and it hangs randomly... Now I'm using a 1GB Sandisk SD Plus USB in my XDA Exec and it hangs randomly too...
I am reverting back to me Panasonic 128mb SD card to see if that helps... Although it's weird that on my Xda Exec it only SOMETIMES hangs when I receive an SMS... don't know whether this is two issues or one.
I have a 4GB Transcend SD Card. I can install and run any application on it but, the camera application can't seem to read or store any pictures on it. It states: "not enough memory"
I tried reformatting it using Pocket Mechanic on my Exec and still the same result. I tried reformatting it on my computer but it can't read the 4GB SD card from Transcend.
funny I have a 1Gb Sandisk card and even if I have no media files open sometimes it just hangs on resume. The only way to get around this problem is to leave the XDA switched on all the time and swithc only the backlight.
However, this way the battery life is shorter. I think this problem should be addressed to someone who is technical (not like me) maybe we get a plausable explanation of what shall we do.
It is very annoying since when the system hangs up the mobile does not have any coverage and in sales it means loosing potential customers!!!!
XDA EXEC
Same problem Here.
I had a 1 Gig card and I often had to take it out to solve the problem.
Now I have a 2 Gig card (Sandisk Ultra II) and the problem is solved.
I'm not that technical, but wasn't there an issue with dual voltage sd card's?
I too have a memory card problem. I have loaded some pictures and videos on the card but as soon as I try to open them in File Explorer the XD Exec freezes and will only work again if I remove the memory card or reset the Exec. Then it freezes again when I try and read the memory card again. I've tried loading stuff on using Active Sync and using a memory card reader and still the same. I've even formatted the card again. It is a cheap SD memory card will I need a new memory card or is it a software problem?
@jah, my wife has this same problem on her Wizard (vario), she got a 128Mb miniSD with her Vario. If she leaves the card in and allows the device to suspend then wakes it up she gets a white blank screen and has to soft reset to recover. With the card removed the problem goes away. She had her vario replaced because of this fault (tech support thought it was the vario at fault). It was only when the problem occured with the new vario that I had a play and found with the card removed the fault went away. We haven't taken the card back yet, but I am 99% sure it is a card fault.
I might try her card with the adaptor in my Exec and see if I get the same problems as you are getting?
Regards, Simon
It seems like Dopod900/Univeral is sharing the same problem, too sensitive toward particular SD brand/model. My Dopod900 also having a huge problem recognizing the Kingston 2G SD 133x but works fine with Transcent 2G SD 150x.

MicroSD card hanging phone

I've just took delivery of my Kingston 1GB MicroSD card and all is not going well.
Using TomTom on it causes the entire phone to hang. This can happen is various places, there seems to be no real pattern to it. It can hang when running the initial config screens or if you manage to get passed them it will always hang when trying to enter a street/city name. Normally I can get a few characters in to typing the name and then it will freeze. Only a soft reset will bring it back.
I've tried formatting the card on the PC as FAT and FAT32 but neither seem to improve things.
Anyone else had issues with reading from MicroSD cards hanging their phone - up until installing the card the phones been rock solid?
BTW: It's a SPV M3100. Nothing else is installed - it's just been hard reset
I was having numerous problems with the phone freezing. The famous sleep of death whereby if was left charging overnight it would freeze up only a soft reset will sort it out.
I narrowed it down to the micro sd card or the SPV3100 handling of it. I have a 1gb Sandisk Ultra II. I discovered that if I had a program loaded onto the sd card & the phone had to access it for whatever reason, in my case Fizz Traveller & an RSS reader the phone would just freeze up.
Another problem is everytime I take the sd card out & put it back in, the phone doesn't see it until a soft reset.
Obviously this could be just the phone not compatible with the sd card but I don't have a different brand to try out. But I tend to think its a bug with the phone itself.
hmm doesn't sound too clever.
Assuming it is a bug with the phone itself I wonder if trying one of the other roms might be a course of action? Trouble is there's no way back yet until Orange release a update. Could really do with my GPS working though :-(
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Another problem is everytime I take the sd card out & put it back in, the phone doesn't see it until a soft reset.
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I think that this is normal for the Hermes. That's the way it works on my Vario II.
I believe the problem with TomTom hanging is due to the software being a little slow at reading the names database from the card. This happens to me on occasion, but if you wait a little while it comes back. I'm using a SanDisk 2Gb card and most other software works fine. It's entirely possible that these problems will be fixed with a future firmware update, as I think it's just a matter of teething problems on a new system. In my case, 2Gb cards weren't even widely available when the Hermes was designed.
kevino said:
zen123 said:
Another problem is everytime I take the sd card out & put it back in, the phone doesn't see it until a soft reset.
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I've got TTN5 working on my SPV no problems at all. Took less than 10mins to transfer the files from my old sd card to the new one & load the Nav5.21 program onto the phone. Even after numerous hard resets & 3 different phones.
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Tytn freezes because of micro SD card, help!!

My device switches on by itself and then crashs with the screen on, it is not possible to access any thing and the only thing it responds to is to do a soft reset.
The only difference between now and when it was working fine is the usuage of a micro SD card. My device works perfectly when there is no SD card installed, if I install a SD card the device starts to show the stange behaviour straight away.
The SD card which I am using is a 1 GB Sandisk card. What do you think? Do you think it is a device hardware problem or what?
Thanks in advance for any offered help!
W.
eldali said:
My device switches on by itself and then crashs with the screen on, it is not possible to access any thing and the only thing it responds to is to do a soft reset.
The only difference between now and when it was working fine is the usuage of a micro SD card. My device works perfectly when there is no SD card installed, if I install a SD card the device starts to show the stange behaviour straight away.
The SD card which I am using is a 1 GB Sandisk card. What do you think? Do you think it is a device hardware problem or what?
Thanks in advance for any offered help!
W.
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Have you tried reformatting the card in a PC card reader? FAT32, allocation size of 512. and make sure contacts on card are clean.
Mike
I did that already but with no improvement. What I don't understandis, why my device switchs on by itself, as if it detects a new SD card inserted while it is off!!
I don't want to be fast concluding it is a hardware problem, it is still under warranty, but I would like to send it only when I am sure it is hardware problem!
eldali said:
I did that already but with no improvement. What I don't understandis, why my device switchs on by itself, as if it detects a new SD card inserted while it is off!!
I don't want to be fast concluding it is a hardware problem, it is still under warranty, but I would like to send it only when I am sure it is hardware problem!
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Need to establish if it's the card or device. Don't suppose you can access another card?
Mike
I have only one card, it seems I will have to buy another one, just to do the test! I will do that today in the evening, unless someone has better ideas.
thx
W.
There's a bit discussion going on already... see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
Well, I had some similar problems. Now I make sure that EVERY application & service running is on the main device memory (RAM). eMail attachments, browser cache, all today add-ons and all applications that run with a schedule (like Backup etc.) - Only documents, Tomtom Maps and Games are left on the SD card. Reduced freezes to one in a week.
Well, and I just ordered a Kingston card and will compare it to SanDisk. Both 2GB.
I tried another 512 Mbyte card, it seems better so far (only since 1 day). I didn't have any freezes, but the device wakes up by itself from time to time, although the option to wake up when a key is pressed is disabled. I can't understand this!!
Kingston 2GB card working perfect so far. Running WM6 (check my signature).

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