Rookie question here: Is it possible to share my Trinity's GPS unit with my Wizard over a Bluetooth connection? Now I don't know if Bluetooth is required to be enabled when using GPS because the Trinity communicates to the GPS unit over BT or if it's just something to get the damn thing working but if it does actually send the GPS data over BT, how would one set the other phone to use this signal?
Thanks.
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Rookie question here: Is it possible to share my Trinity's GPS unit with my Wizard over a Bluetooth connection? Now I don't know if Bluetooth is required to be enabled when using GPS because the Trinity communicates to the GPS unit over BT or if it's just something to get the damn thing working but if it does actually send the GPS data over BT, how would one set the other phone to use this signal?
Thanks.
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Try GPSgate http://www.franson.com/gpsgate/
I have shared Trinity's GPS with my laptop before, I don't see any reason why not between two phone.
GPS data is a one way data stream, so you can record it or redirect it to any virtual COM port on any device designed for it.
But I think GPSgate is the only app I can recall that does it nicely.
Also checkout the PocketPC Experts' reviews of GPS software for other possibilities.
V
You may try also GPS2Blue (http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html) - benefits: it's freeware.
Thanks fellas for your wonderful suggestions. I'm looking into them now.
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Please , please can anyone tell me if it is possible to remove the crap $icrosoft Bluetooth drivers and on my SPV M500 and install better ones. As they are so crap and have taken out alot of function.
Please tell me there is a way
Thanks
Brian
What do you want??? I'm using that same MS stack on my S110 and I cannot say I miss anything compared to Widcomm on my old iPAQ, everything I need (ActiveSync, OBEX, SerialPort) can be done via BT. What are you missing???
Besindes you can install another stack like the Toshiba one or one from Bluesoleil and disable the MS one (cannot be uninstalled because it is in ROM).
Magican with 64MB RAM cant run Widcom but maybe the 128MB ones like the S110 can, but I'm not brave enough to test it. Despite I've no idea where to get the Widcom stack for PPC.
one of the most important things is my car kit requires me to activate the serial port on port 5, but My IPAQ in the bluetooth i click on the carkit port and select connect, and works fine, but i do not have that fuction with my Orange M500, until i can connect the port it will not work so thats why i need other bluetooth software that has this fuction. it seems like $icrosoft is the onlt bluetooth stact that does not have this fuction, and they have cut it down
Hope you understand that
Well I use my Holux 236 GPS on Port5 using SPP (SerialPortProfile) so the functionality is in the MS stack for sure.
Sorry and by the way, where can i get the Toshiba one or one from Bluesoleil bluetooth stack drivers and how do i disable the $icrosoft ones
Thanks again
Brian
Yes, but it does not have the manual connect fuction like other bluetooth statcks do, and i can not connect to the carkit without it. my other device have that fuction and works well, just not my M500
Brian
You can get the bluesoleil one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18537&highlight=bluesoleil
The Toshiba one can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15604&highlight=toshiba
Important: Both stacks are not perfect. The bluesoleil is limited because the Magician is not a device it is registered on and because of that it has a 5MB data trasfer limit before you need to start it again (like a trial). The Toshiba one is really good but unstable at times.
You best bet is prolly the Bluesoleil one and the "trial" limitation can be removed, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24801&highlight=bluesoleil
Instructions are avail in those two threads too. Could you let me know how it goes, I'm thinking of using another stack too.
Using a GPS mouse should work without problems. I guess you're doing something wrong. The MS stack establishes the serial port connection automatically once an application tries to use that port. I don't know how it works, but the stack can separate between a connection through the serial profile using Active Sync and a connection using a navigation software to the GPS mouse. For me, it works with no problem. I can use ActiveSync and afterwards go into my car, switch on TomTom and it connects to my bluetooth GPS mouse automatically.
I guess it also has to do how the corresponding navigation software deals with the BT stack. Therefore you should try another software and see if it works better.
It's basically true, that you can do almost everything with the crippled MS stack aswell. Even browsing the net through ActiveSync, even though it has no PAN profile. What it really lacks is the A2DP profile. I think WM5 also features HID, for keyboards, mouses and stuff.
i do not have any problem with any other bluetooth device, it just my CK3500 karkit requires you to do a manual connect, and the MS stack does not have that function.
And thanks to Private-Cowboy, will try this and post update
Thanks again
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i do not have any problem with any other bluetooth device, it just my CK3500 karkit requires you to do a manual connect, and the MS stack does not have that function.
And thanks to Private-Cowboy, will try this and post update
Thanks again
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Then really it's the car kit that's at fault. :?
TheBrit, looks like you was correct, problem with the carkit
Thanks
Brian
Dandie said:
Using a GPS mouse should work without problems. I guess you're doing something wrong...
...It's basically true, that you can do almost everything with the crippled MS stack aswell. Even browsing the net through ActiveSync, even though it has no PAN profile. What it really lacks is the A2DP profile. I think WM5 also features HID, for keyboards, mouses and stuff.
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I'm afraid I not fully agree with you...
In my case (I have a MDA Compact) for my bluetooth GPS mouse to work properly within TomTom 5, I need to bond the GPS mouse with COM5. And that means that I cannot connect simultaniously to an external GSM (for TomTom Traffic via GPRS).
Why an external phone on my MDA Compact? On the MDA I have my work provider and on an external phone I have my private provider with GPRS (a bit difficult I know).
As said to two functions together doesn't work with the MS stack because of the bonding of the GPS mouse on COM5.
Except...
Except when I install an old version of Bluetooth Tools!!! With Bluetooth tools I can bond my GPS mouse to a virtual COM port, which TomTom 5 recognizes! And now I can also use my external GPRS phone!
OK, I can have 2 connection through my MS stack. as i do it
i bound com 5 to my portable Slim GPS until and run tomtom 5.10 in my car, and that works fine, then on my car kit i click connect to paired device and it then connect fine,(so i have a com 5 connection to my GPS and a connection to my hands free car kit). all through my Orange SPV 500 at once
This work great,
But i wanted to use the car kit for handfree and GPS, but as my gps does not work on my car kit i am stuck with my portable Slim GPS unit for now
Brian
brian colston said:
OK, I can have 2 connection through my MS stack. as i do it
i bound com 5 to my portable Slim GPS until and run tomtom 5.10 in my car, and that works fine, then on my car kit i click connect to paired device and it then connect fine,(so i have a com 5 connection to my GPS and a connection to my hands free car kit). all through my Orange SPV 500 at once
This work great,
But i wanted to use the car kit for handfree and GPS, but as my gps does not work on my car kit i am stuck with my portable Slim GPS unit for now
Brian
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Yes, it works with a handsfree carkit. But it doesn't with an external phone, maybe because the phone is a 2-way connection? Try it and you'll see it doesn't!
Ok sorry about that
Brian
I have TomTom software installed on my Atom, I've tried using a Polstar Bluetooth GPS unit to see if that would work but it fails to read the correct Comm port on the atom.
Does anyone know if this is compatible with the Atom, or of any other GPS devices (bluetooth or cabled) that would work?
Hi there
i am working with GPSlim236 from HOLUX and it very good and easy to install.
cool, thanks.
What's the battery use like if in use? The problem is that the lighter socket in my car is 'dodgy' to say the least, so the longer the life before i have to charge the better
(hmm...I predict being guided somewhere, losing battery life on GPS, and getting lost....SatNav at its finest.......)
The BT-77 (Nemerix chipset) from e-bay also works really well, especially considering the price. I have used this in Australia, UK and the US and have had no problems pairing it with the Atom.
Battery life is also good, as I've used it for a whole day with no sign of running out.
sometimes to connect GPS device, you need to create new OUTGOING port, and pareing the device
Thanks jeremy_elman, I will investigate.
Kropotov, I can get it to pair ok, and I have tried setting outgoing ports. The problem is that it won't allow me to set the outgoing port to the correct COM port that I need for the GPS. It comes up with an error.
I checked up on this from Polstar and they said to adjust registry settings. But even this doesn't work and they couldn't give me any information with regards to compatability. But I know the Polstar one I had works as it was working on an iPAQ 6340, installing it as a cable GPS device and setting the baud rate. The outgoing com ports on bluetooth could be set to the relevant ones for the device, and pairing was straight-forward.
Problem with GPS Reciver on Atom XDA with Tomtom
Hello, i've installed Tomtom 5.21 and the maps and everything is Ok. but i can't make the link between my gps reciver (Royaltek Star III) and the atom XDA. I've installed the partnership in the settings but it doesn't connect with the antenna. I've seen in my other pda (ipaq hx4700 and ipaq hx2790) that there is a bluetooth manager in the connection setting but there is non in the atom XDA. Do you know what's the solution ?
I've the same problem than you for the outgoing ports, i can't choose the one i want and i can't find the good port in tomtom gps settings.
Thanks
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sometimes to connect GPS device, you need to create new OUTGOING port, and pareing the device
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same with u, kropotov. i use garmin gps10 with ATOM EXEC. work well and smooth.
dlawson5
it's very strange... i have all com ports free, and can choose all, include 8, that tomtom need. Do you have other bluetooth devices, pared with Atom?
I'm using a Garmin GPS10. To get around similar com port issues i install Franson's GPSGATE. A downloadable trial is available to try before you buy. The two advantages of this software solution is that you can nominate virtual com ports meaning you determoine the com port for the TomTom software and secondly you can use more than one GPS software package simultaneously. I run both Garmin Que (navigation) and OziExlorer (topographic and mapping) at the same time. You can't do this without GPSGate. Many bluetooth GPS devices drop their connections regularly. I find that GPSGate holds the connection better and reconnects quickly if it does drop. I highly recommend you try this before chasing around for different GPS devices.
John
Atom with BT GPS
I am using the Atom with the Holux GPSlim236 and it works like a charm.
Rated GPS battery life is 10Hrs and it uses the nokia 6xxx handphone battery so easy to charge and/or replace when battery gets old.
I had some problems using it initially 'cos built right into the Atom is a GPS management software that manages GPS connections apparently so that you can run more than one GPS application in the Atom and all the applications can share the GPS data. However I find that turning this on tends to lockup the GPS application (MapKing) and sometimes causes lost connections. TURN THIS OFF. Besides, I don't see myself using more than one GPS application (but that may change ! looking for a good track logging software - anyone knows one ?).
The other thing I noticed which makes the connection more reliable is to turn off the secure serial communication.
With those two settings off, works like a charm and no more problems !
O2 Atom with Holux GPSlim236 Bluetooth GPSr
Hi,
Not sure if this helps but I am able to get my Atom to work with my Holux BT GPSr using Garmin Que.
Here's the link to how I set it up : http://www.malsingmaps.com/forum/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=41060#41060
So far, it rocks!
O2 Atom with Holux GPSlim236 Bluetooth GPSr
Hi,
Not sure if this helps but I am able to get my Atom to work with my Holux BT GPSr using Garmin Que.
Here's the link to how I set it up : http://www.malsingmaps.com/forum/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=41060#41060
So far, it rocks!
HELLLP upgraded to WM6 on my BA and now my i-Blue GPS reciever wont sync up and TOMTOM cant even see it im gonna scream and cry has anyone got any ideas??? PLEASE PLEASE help
My BA works fine with my GPS receiver (make sure you added it, and assign COM port to the incoming port). Then I use TT6 with COM6 and it works just fine.
Some people uses the GPS application in Settings, but I did not.
now that used to be the case however i no longler have the ability on the menu to choose the BT ports on TT6 i have in this order..
BT UART
SERIAL CABLE ON COM 1
COM 9
IR ON COM 3
and thats it theres some missin:S any ideas??
also its just not syncin up like it used to with Wm2003 Grr
Try to assign to your receiver COM 1 or COM 9
Sometimes it is the GPS application that doesn't know how to use the external GPS management program.
Go to Settings -> Connections -> External GPS, set the two ports to "none" and uncheck the option to manage the ports automatically. Reset the device and try to choose the same port you have chosen at pairing.
I have just finished GPS tutorial for you to know
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardSettings_GPS
Let us know if it helps
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I have just finished GPS tutorial for you to know
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardSettings_GPS
Let us know if it helps
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Wow! it works great man!! thanks kerio (and gang)!!
This is kind of bit off-topic, but since you're talking about bluetooth GPS on a Blue Angel I wanted to ask: how well does it work? As I have do not have any sense of direction at all, I've been thinking about buying a Bluetooth GPS receiver, but can a $35 GPS really be accurate and work well? Will any BT GPS receiver work? What kind of software do you use on the PDA? Thank you!
hi, set the gps hardware port (com6) in the external gps settings. set the new outgoing port in the blutooth settings (com6) and in the TT6 set the com6 in other nmea gps. it works.
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This is kind of bit off-topic, but since you're talking about bluetooth GPS on a Blue Angel I wanted to ask: how well does it work? As I have do not have any sense of direction at all, I've been thinking about buying a Bluetooth GPS receiver, but can a $35 GPS really be accurate and work well? Will any BT GPS receiver work? What kind of software do you use on the PDA? Thank you!
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i have a rikalin bluetooth gps and it's working great.
Tomtom 6 and route 66 both working without any problem.
regards stef
Hello,
I consider to buy an external GPS BT antenna.
I already own an Bluetooth Wireless Car Hands Free Kit.
Can I have booth devices connected thru BT at same time ?
Cheers.
Yes, as long they use diff. comm ports.
Some devices will be able to send a signal to your Tytn II asking for a pairing, others you need to set up individually.
Choose com 4 as standard for your GPS radio and recco to use com 8 for your carkit (or vice versa) as such, they are far enough from each other to let identify the TytnII the good com. port.
Thanks for you answer !
While we are on this topic - External GPS
Is there a way to assure that you do not turn the battery sucking internal GPS on while using a mapping program and an external GPS?
I'm asking for a friend and I can't try it out so please be really specific and detailed.
I have a 8525 running the stock HTC ROM. Is the control of the external GPS the same as on the 8925?
I managed to pair a Holux GPSlim236 with my 8525 without using the External GPS utility. Do I really need this utility if I'm only routing the data from one receiver to one program?
Regards,
GPSGary
gepp said:
Is there a way to assure that you do not turn the battery sucking internal GPS on while using a mapping program and an external GPS?
I'm asking for a friend and I can't try it out so please be really specific and detailed.
I have a 8525 running the stock HTC ROM. Is the control of the external GPS the same as on the 8925?
I managed to pair a Holux GPSlim236 with my 8525 without using the External GPS utility. Do I really need this utility if I'm only routing the data from one receiver to one program?
Regards,
GPSGary
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Your software will be able to map a com port. if the device has an internal GPS, just let your GPS soft identify which one and not it down.
When you turn on your external receiver, your divice will identify 2 "GPS receiver found" linked with 2 Com Ports. just set the one linked with your External GPS on manual status. Do not forget to apply an "outgoing port" in your Bluetooth settings.
As for the External GPS utility, I advice not using it, or setting on "automatic" or something called like that.
I just bought a used gps bluetooth receiver, but i dont know how to make it work on my phone. how can i set up and what do i have to download to make it work? thank you
Oh I forgot to tell that the gps receiver is GlobalSat BT-359
shadowluan said:
I just bought a used gps bluetooth receiver, but i dont know how to make it work on my phone. how can i set up and what do i have to download to make it work? thank you
Oh I forgot to tell that the gps receiver is GlobalSat BT-359
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Well if you have not bought or loaded any GPS software then you can for the time being load up a free software GPS Test that at least will show if you are receiving satellite info from your bluetooth device.
To get your bluetooth device recognised by the TyTn you need to use the connections setup to add a bluetooth device and allocate a port to it (port 4 is a good choice normally)
I have not got my TyTn out at the moment but I'm sure someone will give you a step by step guide to adding a bluetooth device if you can't find the menus.
Mike