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How many % of battery do you loose overnight ??

Hi to all of you,
I feel my CRUISE consumes too much power overnight (from 100 to 75%) in a night of 12 hours!
Wouldn't it be interesting to know:
- Rom version
- Radio version
- % battery change over let's say 8 or 10 hours of STANDBY
- Are you using GPS everyonce a while ?
Dag

ROM 1.52.753.3 CHT TAIWAN
RADIO 1.64.08.21
Battery drain 2%. from 0:00 - 7:00 with flight mode on.

about 3-4% with phone mode on in 7 hours (GPRS, 3G and everything else off)
ROM .67 Bepe
with original ROM (spanish) about 4-5%, same conditions as mentioned before

windirt said:
ROM 1.52.753.3 CHT TAIWAN
RADIO 1.64.08.21
Battery drain 2%. from 0:00 - 7:00 with flight mode on.
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You mean phone part is off?
I get 5-7% per night (00-07) with normal mode of work phone.

I forgot to ask if you are using GPS sometimes or not ?
I fell my CRUISE has a problem with 24% lost in one night !!!! of course data is off and wifi is off, only the phone is on !!
What about your GPS?

2-3% sounds right for my phone too - Bepe .67 WWE in standby.
When I switch the phone on in the morning, BatteryStatus tells me it's using about 4mA before the plug-in catches up to the fact that the device has been switched on.

44% left for a consecutive 3 hours GPS usage.

Simply and very common view of power drain of battery:
- When standby - 1% per 1h
- When GPS is on - 1% per 10min
- When WiFi is on - 1% per 1min
Phone always on, BT always off.
ROM 0.67 by Bepe.

0%... it's left on usb cable via powered hub all night
But usually... two 1hour GPS trips and a 20min phone call and its dead... need to install a lighter socket in my car to keep on top of that!

This is weird, phil. I leave my phone on at night, I lose 4-5% of battery even with bluetooth, wi-fi and phone on. I had a battery problem with my polaris with the original rom, once, it was caused by active sync automatically opening and scanning ports. maybe if you disable it, your battery will breathe longer... GPS aint that much of a gobber, neither.

creiz said:
This is weird, phil. I leave my phone on at night, I lose 4-5% of battery even with bluetooth, wi-fi and phone on. I had a battery problem with my polaris with the original rom, once, it was caused by active sync automatically opening and scanning ports. maybe if you disable it, your battery will breathe longer... GPS aint that much of a gobber, neither.
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I have noticed ActiveSync running when it feels like it... will disable it in the REG I think...

well, I used this fix here http://www.aximsite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/112638-solution-axim-not-turning-disappearing-cf-sd-cards-battery-discharge.html?pp=20 Maybe that will help you.

0%.... aaah night time is the best time to charge your phone while your sleeping d'oh

I loose 4-5% in 8-10 hours.
Phone on, BT on, WiFi off, GPS off, HSDPA enabled
Bepe 0.67 GER Premium, Radio 1.64.08.21
Sascha
P.S. Try the following registry settings:
*****
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:00000000
"BusType"=dword:00000000
"BusNumber"=dword:00000000
"RebindOnResume"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:00000000
"BusType"=dword:00000000
"BusNumber"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:00000000
"BusType"=dword:00000000
"BusNumber"=dword:00000000
*****

SaBo said:
P.S. Try the following registry settings:
*****
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:00000000
"BusType"=dword:00000000
"BusNumber"=dword:00000000
"RebindOnResume"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:00000000
"BusType"=dword:00000000
"BusNumber"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:00000000
"BusType"=dword:00000000
"BusNumber"=dword:00000000
*****
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These tweaks work fine for my Kaiser....

I lost 2-3% in a night with the original. And 5-6% with Bepe!
But I must say I installed Bepe yesterday, so I haven't tweaked anything yet.

RADIO 1.64.08.21
rom .65 ita BASIC BY BEPE
2% for 8 hours of zzz with
phone ON (3G)
BT OFF
WiFi OFF

I wonder if you all got the same quality battery. Eg maybe some batches were defective/old? Stored badly in heat or something so had a lower battery capacity?
Maybe check your manuf. dates etc?

schaggo said:
Guessing and estimating is, put simple, worthless.
Get yourself a copy of the outstanding and free acbPowerMeter which graphs battery usage in a very understandable way and it also shows you your current battery usage.
http://www.acbpocketsoft.com/Products/acbPowerMeter/acbPowerMeter-Overview-2.html
So if one guys device uses x mA and another guys device uses x^2 mA under the same conditions, then it's not some kind of a bad batch of batteries but some user which should win a price. A bad price.
Install the utility, post test results in here.
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I'll (even full...)quote myself then: forget about the utility, it's not compatible with the Polaris' components. It delivers an energy consumption of 4.5E9 mA which is, well, off the scale pretty much.
Anybody else knows of a (working) power consuption/battery life tracking utility? Possibly even a free one?

Here it is: BatTest. It's extremely simple utility with no graphic output, but only text log. Also it stops logging after the device goes asleep and resumes when you press the Power button (dunno if it's a bug or a feature, haven't ever tried anything else). Although, as we haven't got any alternatives, I guess it's our best shot. It has already served me well, hope it'll do the same for you.
PS. There's also the BatteryStatus utility, but it only shows current energy draw with no tracking.
PPS. Oh, and, of course, it's free.

[Sol] Maybe: Sdcard Powermanagement disabled gives me more batterylife

I have noticed one thing yesterday.
From the moment i had my Rhodium (2weeks ago) i installed advanced Config 3.3 on my Rhodium.
From the start i had the "SDcard power management" enabled.
Since then i had a terrible battery life, 20% loss in 3 hours so at the end of the day my battery was empty.
And did not blame the powermanagement of this.
Trying to locate the power loss i used acbPowermeter.
After two weeks i came till the conclusion that there was nothing which drains my battery.
True out the day i use my phone for just a couple off calls and sms messages.
3G is disabled because the poor reception.
Also auto weahter updates every 2 hours and my mail is also checked every 1 hour.
Bluetooth is always discoverble which does not effect battery drain more then bleutooth off.
Activesync is killed and Opera does realy close and used the nopushInternet tweak.
So after testing al these and more.
Even how much those apps uses de proc.
I had to try one more thing, disable the SDcard power management in Advanced Config 3.3.
And today that config change made me verry happy.
Normaly i start working at 5am and work till 3pm in that time the battery has lost 60% power.
And today i was supprised my Pro II had 91% power left.
So i just want to let you know that in my case the SDcard Power management f*****k up my batterylife.
Specs
HTC Touch Pro II
ROM-Vers: 1.19.404.1 (51489) NLD
ROM-Date: 06/22/09
Radio-Vers: 3.44.25.27
Engergy Info Tab says at 90% battery life:
Last fully charged
23:24 Thu 18aug 2009
Standby time:
18 hours and 40 minutes
Speak time:
1 hour and 4 minutes
Device Use:
5 hours and 4 minutes
I believe these specs aren't that bad because before i disabled the power management my battery would be emty in 16 hours.
So i hope that my findings will help you all.

Bluetooth is always discoverble which does not effect battery drain more then bleutooth off.
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Are you sure about that?
in most devices bt in descovery mode drains the hell out of the battery!
I always have my BT ON only, because thats all you need once you devices have been paired.

faria said:
Are you sure about that?
in most devices bt in descovery mode drains the hell out of the battery!
I always have my BT ON only, because thats all you need once you devices have been paired.
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Hey Faria,
First off all i still love your rom on my old wiza200.
Back ontopic:
As i found on the internet and my findings with the discoverble mode that it is not on all the time.
It only opens the BT pairing when a device want to pair.
After that it closes and acts as BT on mode.
BT does not sends it signal all the time.
But correct my if i am wrong
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If i may believe AcbPowerMeter the power drain with BT on and BT discoverble is nill and BT off against BT on is that it isn't a power drainer

Hey Faria,
First off all i still love your rom on my old wiza200.
Back ontopic:
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Wow!
As i found on the internet and my findings with the discoverble mode that it is not on all the time.
It only opens the BT pairing when a device want to pair.
After that it closes and acts as BT on mode.
BT does not sends it signal all the time.
But correct my if i am wrong
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If i may believe AcbPowerMeter the power drain with BT on and BT discoverble is nill and BT off against BT on is that it isn't a power drainer
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ha.. you mean you have it in a timed descovery mode. if that is the case then it is correct.
if i m not mistaking bt on only, drains less than 1% in 24 hours of the battery.

I get 7 hours of battery life and I'm a heavy user. I already have that option disabled. I need to improve this battery!!!

incredible!! your results are great!! any other detailed report, to clarify things a bit?? it would be interesting to have some data to elaborate some statistics and see what we come up with
in your fisrt post, you mean that you achieved the written results at the cost of only 10% battery life, or have I misunderstood it all??? if it's correct, wow!! °_° you have a nuclear battery! from 100% (and powermanagement enabled) I usually achieve 24 to 26 standby hours, 30min calls, 5 hours device usage (most of them connected on 3g). no bt nor auto connections of any kind.
thinking about it, it sounds a bit strange though: the OS is basically the same since quite a long time, and so the management of sd power (I think). so why would it do good (if enabled) on many devices, and not on TP2, having on the contrary such a bad impact on battery life?? I hope my question is clear enough!
since I'm no expert or programmer, I'd really like to have a little explanation by someone who really knows how these things work!
thanks a lot for the contribution, everything that may improve battery life even just a minute is super appreciated! best regards!

faria said:
Wow!
ha.. you mean you have it in a timed descovery mode. if that is the case then it is correct.
if i m not mistaking bt on only, drains less than 1% in 24 hours of the battery.
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Nope my is discoverble the whole time.
About the 1% drain i am not sure, but after i am done with testing we will see how much it drains our battery.
HeavyComponent said:
I get 7 hours of battery life and I'm a heavy user. I already have that option disabled. I need to improve this battery!!!
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I am still testing how to improve our battery and be able to do something with it.
cyberpunk627 said:
incredible!! your results are great!! any other detailed report, to clarify things a bit?? it would be interesting to have some data to elaborate some statistics and see what we come up with
in your fisrt post, you mean that you achieved the written results at the cost of only 10% battery life, or have I misunderstood it all??? if it's correct, wow!! °_° you have a nuclear battery! from 100% (and powermanagement enabled) I usually achieve 24 to 26 standby hours, 30min calls, 5 hours device usage (most of them connected on 3g). no bt nor auto connections of any kind.
thinking about it, it sounds a bit strange though: the OS is basically the same since quite a long time, and so the management of sd power (I think). so why would it do good (if enabled) on many devices, and not on TP2, having on the contrary such a bad impact on battery life?? I hope my question is clear enough!
since I'm no expert or programmer, I'd really like to have a little explanation by someone who really knows how these things work!
thanks a lot for the contribution, everything that may improve battery life even just a minute is super appreciated! best regards!
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I expect that my testing will be done with in two or three weeks.
Because i want to exclude every possible power drain and drain the battery till its empty to besure how long it takes.
Althought my battery isn't empty jet i will post some screens of the actual battery state.
And later this weekend when the battery is empty i will also post data of my findings.
With my tests i hope to save power and still be able to use the Pro II as its ment to be.
Or else it will be useless expansive plastic brick after 7hours of use time.
At this moment my battery has 43% power left.
And the last full charge was at 4am on 20-08-2009.
So its standby for a little over 54 hours. (current time 11:30am)
In my attached screen it say standby time 49 hours.
I do not know if this standby indication is the actual standby or what is left.
I mean that my Pro still has 49 hours to go.
Think there is a bug in de energy tab, but can not find anything on the NET.
This is what i have done the last 54 hours.
Why is tell you this? althought i am not an heavy user like many people here.
It maybe can help to compare my use with all you people.
- 4am 20-08-09: woke up and disconected my phone from the charger.
- 5am got to work, at work no provider connection so phone is searching for connection for little over 8 hours.
- 3pm got home, so now and then check the weather, play arround with new appz, had to put is some new appointments and contacts.
- Tryed some new reg tweaks, and took some pictures and make a short movie (1.39min) off the awefull weather over here.
- 10pm got to bed with 73% power left in my battery.
- Same story: 4am woke up and got to work to arrive at home at 3 pm.
- Did some checking on the weahter app, added a new contact, tryed some g-sensor games.
- And made two phone call about 10 minutes (not much for the last two days)
- Also send about 12 sms and 2 emails.
- Got to bed at 11pm and woke up at 10am with 43% power left in my battery.
- My mail is checked every two hours, no pushmail by the way
- I used the alarm function as my wake up call
I will let the battery drain completly and try some other possible power savers later this week.
And will post my findings over here including some findings i made with acbpowermeter and what effects background services or programms have on the battery.
At this moment i think i have charge my battery tomorrow morning if it does not shut it self off because of an empty battery over night.
If 4 days standby time is possible with little use then i'm not happy with the power drain.
Why: my wifes Omnia i900 is not used for over 3days (Backup phone at the moment) and has a been standby for 4,5 days and has 50% power left.
Okay i know i can not compare these two devices.
Because there different and we do not use the devices the same.
Later this weekend i will post what i have done and post some data and statistics.
And i will post which changes i made for my new tests week.
What i have done so far,
Energy settings:
-screenlight in battery power is full
-screen goes off after 1 minute
-device goes off after 2 minutes
Phone settings:
-band settings are set both to auto
Bluetooth:
-is set to discoverble
WiFi:
-Did not use it this test
Commanager
-Do not know whoe made it.
but is use the new commanger to quickly switch between 3G on or off.
Because in my area there is a poor reception of 3G
So currently 3G it is switched off
Advanced Config:
-sdcard powermanagment is disabled
-also the others mmc, nand, sim, async, pptp,l2pt
-Data connetions (gprs auto attach) disabled
-miscellaneous (auto daylight savings) disabled
Appz & tweaks
-manilla nopushinternet
-Opera wil close instead of minimize
-Activesync is killed by faking a server
-No2chem 1% battery bar
-Zuinigerijder TouchLockPro
-XDA-Developers GPRS 1 minute auto detechment
Rhodium settings tool:
-Auto rotation is off
-Power special tweak is switched off (next week testing it switched on)
So next week more data and background info

waiting to see the final results!!
btw, what is "power special trick"?? never heard of that.. sounds useful
the more minute of battery life we can obtain, the better!

how do you disable the sd card power management? i want to give this a try. also this is my first post and id like to say this site has alot of useful information!

any updates

I tried disabling and...well maybe there is some little improvement here, but I don't know if it's really because of this or if it's because of different patterns of usage during the days.. mine varies a lot.
as a raw comparison, it went from almost 60hrs standby and 5 of usage to almost 75 and 6 /6.5. both test with phone always on on 3g network, no data connections, no wifi, bt and such. just simple usage (documents reading, editing, tweaking, mostly PIM related tasks.
again, I'm not really sure it's power management related.. maybe V6Maniac did a more rigid comparison, mine's not worth it
waiting for updates
cheers

Palringo
Guys,
I am not a techie so dont flame me if what I say proves to be wrong.
When I installed cleanRAM and when went to the Customized Process List, I saw Palringo as one of the running processes. I remembered using Palringo on the day I installed it, but never after that, which is at least 10 days before. And it stayed there even after a day. Hence I decided to remove the installation and the process is gone now.
Now my batter is really good!!! I had a full charge by 6 pm yesterday and now it is holding at 84%. I did connect to Internet through WiFi for about 20 to 30 mins for skype call, updated weather and stock. Yet it is holding at 84%.
Let me observe it for few more days and let me come back to you if I find anything interesting.

it is known that certain programs are really nasty battery drainer. there's a recent thread somewhere reporting that a (maybe older( version of ESET mobile antivirus did the same. so we have another entry for the black list of abnormal battery drainer
thanks a lot!

Battery issue

I have read some threads about htc devices and their battery- life and behaviour and i didn't really read about the problem i'm having.
The device (topaz) is about 2 weeks old and i'm fairly satisfied with the batteryperformance. Playing with it for about ten minutes would make my battery drop about 5% which is very reasonable.
But lately - speaking of 3 days - i have this weird issue; the battery drains like hell; when i send 1 text message the device can drop 5-6%; which is quite much and absolutely a heavy fall suddenly, compared to what it used to be.
Also, when charging the battery, from 0-70% goes very fast, like about 10 minutes. The other 30% go slow.
I configure the device like this:
- GSM mode
- No wifi
- No bluetooth
- no data connection
System: beam is switched off, data only goes through 'my work network' and band is switched to GSM (which means no 3G - again)
My experience happens when i have no other applications (like GPS) running, and I also have G-light enabled (polling 100ms, mostly 40% backlight, and i have this running since day 1)
I did switch my rom quite often; but I always performed hard-reset and battery calibration afterwards.
installed in current order:
- Touch InCall
- Tomtom navigator
- ageye g-light
- TD2 tools (large cache settings)
- Taskbaricon 6.5.3
- Zenyee disable HTC messaging
Roms used: Dutty R6-R7
Radio: 4.49.25.17, 4.49.25.57

There are some rather aggressively power hungry ROMs and the culprit is mainly Touch flow/HTC sense.
Turn it off for a test and see if there is a difference!

Well, I do experience similar problem. My battery charges for 70% very fast and at 70% it seems to stay forever. (whole night) I haven't done anything to my phone yet. I have it just like it came from T-Mobile. I didn't install any additional application besides sbp backup. I do keep my memory running at around 40% all the time. I have Win6.1 and TF3D on. TF3D is T-Mobile customed, so not sure what manila it is based on.
Please, anybody, do you have other suggestion as what the problem may be?
I want to flash the ROM, yet with these issues I am still reconsidering. If it is faulty battery I would rather go and exchange it as it is still in warranty.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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T-Mobile Compact V
ROM: 1.42.117.2 (50454) WWE
Radio: 3.45.25.216
P.S.> If anybody can help me to extract my Radio and back it up I would appreciate. Thanks.

does anyone know a link to how to keep the battery in tip-top shape. I know there is a post somewhere on xda, but really don't want to look over about 1300 posts to find that. Can someone help me?

georgeono said:
does anyone know a link to how to keep the battery in tip-top shape. I know there is a post somewhere on xda, but really don't want to look over about 1300 posts to find that. Can someone help me?
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"Battery calibration is simply done by running it down completely until the phone shuts off by itself. Then remove the battery, wait 10 seconds, insert again, repeat. If the phone shuts off again in less than a few minutes you're done. Remove battery and hold power button for 1 minute, then insert battery. Don't switch on the phone. Plug the charger and recharge the battery fully until the green light is on. Then remove battery, hold power button for few seconds, insert it and switch on the phone..."

thanks for the tip. will try that. Still, a link for battery tips? I remember a post where a member explained how the battery works I am interested in knowing if it is better to drain the battery or when the battery is lo/very low it would be advised to recharge ...

georgeono said:
thanks for the tip. will try that. Still, a link for battery tips? I remember a post where a member explained how the battery works I am interested in knowing if it is better to drain the battery or when the battery is lo/very low it would be advised to recharge ...
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Here is a link on the Wiki regarding battery consumption.
With Li-Ion batteries it is not recommended to discharge completely as it is with NiCad every 30 cycles.
If you have flashed another ROM that has changed your radio ROM, i.e. you've flashed an official ROM, the Radio ROM will be your culprit for increased battery drain. A weaker radio will constantly have to search for the best network and thus use more battery.
For a few power saving tips;
1. Setup sync times instead of pushing emails.
2. Make sure your data disconnects after use (a few programs out there for that)
3. Set your power settings to turn device off at select times of inactivity
4. Increase your file cache size.
5. Enable auto screen lock

how do you enable auto screen lock? I'd rather not use TD2 Tools. is there any other way?

Common sense Possible crappy battery fix

It probabbly seems ive been spamming the forum with alot of useless threads, but ive gone through many threads about some peoples battery only lasting a few hours, like mine, and others who last almoast two days! so anyway i was just wondering if anyone has just gone out and bought a new battery for there hd2 and the problem was fixed, as in the battery your phone shipped with was just a bad battery. i was just wondering all this before i went ahead and shed out a few bucks for a new battery,so incase the new battery dies at the same speed, i could save some money. thanks everyone!

stock rom- battery life is bad.. just barely making it through the day...
custom rom- people claiming battery life lasting "2 days" which i say is an overexaggeration...
and if you are just talking about accessories.. like batteries....well there is no bigger battery for us.. unless you want to get the extended battery.. which makes you hd2 fat....
now i'm still upset at the fact that the Evo comes shipped with a 1500 Mh battery... and that was modled after our HD2!! which means.... that technically.. there should be a 1500 Mh battery available for us....
but of course... there isn't... for some reason............. which does not make sense at all...... because regardless of the "Minor" differences between the Evo and HD2... they are both slim... almost identical in dimensions.... So the battery should be about the same size.... give or take..... man, i'd even buy a 1450 Mh battery... which would give me about 2 extra hours of battery life...
before anyone says it.. the batteries that are out right now.. are way too close to the stock capacity.. which would make my purchase worthless... I want to increrase my battery life.. not emulate it......
Also.. i do NOT want to keep an extra battery on me.. i do not have a purse... so i can't keep batteries on hand... thats just one big hassle....
and i DO NOT want to flash a custom rom.. stability and bug-free is the only way i like my phones.. i don't care if you never had to charge your battery ever again...... I'm sticking with stock..
so yea.. in other words... i'm just screwed........
love the phone though

Save Battery on HD2
TIPS
Besides the crappy battery that you might have it actually involves lots of things, such as ROM, Radio, Activesync etc...
- Running HTC Sense will drain your battery much more faster than running Titanium.
- Closing Unused apps that are running on the background from the task manager will help, dont use microsft direct push instead have it checked every 4hours or manual (that save A LOT of battery) also any other apps that connects to the internet automatically such as weather, twitter or facebook will drain your battery MUCH FASTER than usual.
- Hving he GPS enabled will drain your battery to ZERO In no time.
- I've came to realize that the Energy Rom's drain my battery soooooooo quick, So I stop Using energy's Rom's, I've also Notice that Duttys 2.11 base Rom with 2.09 Radio (Not the 2.13 base Rom) It has given me almost 2 full days (listening to music as well) so try out different roms and see whats best for you.
- Another thing You might wanna do is change your band from Automatic to Manual and go from manual H & 3G to Manual EDGE the times your not using the internet because if you simple choose automatic, since the Radio for getting the H, 3G, E, GPRS is located on the bottom of the phone (I made a thread about this) sometimes it will constantly jump from one to the other therefor wasting EVEN MORE battery that if it was just on 3G or E all the time.
- also you can try out this registry Mods I've been Using for the longest time (found them somewhere on XDA), I've use them on my WIZARD, EXCALIBUR, JUNO and they seem to do wonders with the battery:
1. HKLM\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
2. HKLMComm\Irsir1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0 i cant seem to find this on my dash or shadow
3. HKLM\Comm\PPTP1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
4. HKLM\Comm\L2TP1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
TIP 3
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Cl ass\SDMemory_Class]
"DisablePowerManagement" = dword : 00000000
(I've also attached the cab I have for the tweaks)
So Before Buying a New battery try this out and see if you Notice any difference.
Hope it Helps ​

ProjektFuze said:
stock rom- battery life is bad.. just barely making it through the day...
custom rom- people claiming battery life lasting "2 days" which i say is an overexaggeration...
and if you are just talking about accessories.. like batteries....well there is no bigger battery for us.. unless you want to get the extended battery.. which makes you hd2 fat....
now i'm still upset at the fact that the Evo comes shipped with a 1500 Mh battery... and that was modled after our HD2!! which means.... that technically.. there should be a 1500 Mh battery available for us....
but of course... there isn't... for some reason............. which does not make sense at all...... because regardless of the "Minor" differences between the Evo and HD2... they are both slim... almost identical in dimensions.... So the battery should be about the same size.... give or take..... man, i'd even buy a 1450 Mh battery... which would give me about 2 extra hours of battery life...
before anyone says it.. the batteries that are out right now.. are way too close to the stock capacity.. which would make my purchase worthless... I want to increrase my battery life.. not emulate it......
Also.. i do NOT want to keep an extra battery on me.. i do not have a purse... so i can't keep batteries on hand... thats just one big hassle....
and i DO NOT want to flash a custom rom.. stability and bug-free is the only way i like my phones.. i don't care if you never had to charge your battery ever again...... I'm sticking with stock..
so yea.. in other words... i'm just screwed........
love the phone though
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That sums up how i feel!!! but personaly im fine about the capacity of my battery, its just that it goes down like 3% in 10 minutes, and this is when the screen is turned off! heres an example..... i charge my phone to 100% overnight , then in the morning at 7 i unplug it and get on the bus to go to school, on my way to school i listen to music the whole bus ride. when l finnaly arrive at around 7:20 , my battery is already down to like 87%!!! ive read on alot of forums about peoples batterys dying quickly like mine, and i have tried everything, so before i go out and purchase another battery i would like to know if it could be a battery or software problem....... BTW i agree with you on that extended battery looking ugly! lol

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Besides the crappy battery that you might have it actually involves lots of things, such as ROM, Radio, Activesync etc...
- Running HTC Sense will drain your battery much more faster than running Titanium.
- Closing Unused apps that are running on the background from the task manager will help, dont use microsft direct push instead have it checked every 4hours or manual (that save A LOT of battery) also any other apps that connects to the internet automatically such as weather, twitter or facebook will drain your battery MUCH FASTER than usual.
- Hving he GPS enabled will drain your battery to ZERO In no time.
- I've came to realize that the Energy Rom's drain my battery soooooooo quick, So I stop Using energy's Rom's, I've also Notice that Duttys 2.11 base Rom with 2.09 Radio (Not the 2.13 base Rom) It has given me almost 2 full days (listening to music as well) so try out different roms and see whats best for you.
- Another thing You might wanna do is change your band from Automatic to Manual and go from manual H & 3G to Manual EDGE the times your not using the internet because if you simple choose automatic, since the Radio for getting the H, 3G, E, GPRS is located on the bottom of the phone (I made a thread about this) sometimes it will constantly jump from one to the other therefor wasting EVEN MORE battery that if it was just on 3G or E all the time.
- also you can try out this registry Mods I've been Using for the longest time (found them somewhere on XDA), I've use them on my WIZARD, EXCALIBUR, JUNO and they seem to do wonders with the battery:
1. HKLM\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
2. HKLMComm\Irsir1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0 i cant seem to find this on my dash or shadow
3. HKLM\Comm\PPTP1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
4. HKLM\Comm\L2TP1\Parms\DisablePowerManagement
Change Dword value from 1 (default) to 0
TIP 3
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Cl ass\SDMemory_Class]
"DisablePowerManagement" = dword : 00000000
(I've also attached the cab I have for the tweaks)
So Before Buying a New battery try this out and see if you Notice any difference.
Hope it Helps ​
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Alright i setup my phone for manual downloads and ran the cab (thanks btw!), and ive disabled gps, but im keeping sense running along with energy, i will post back on this when i get home from school, since right now it is 2:54 a.m. where i am. thanks for spending all that time for the tips! if the problem persists i will try running a diffrent rom, and then ill post back again! thanks again.

I usually carry a battery box like Sanyo mobile booster when traveling. I use 5000mah version it can charge you hd2 several times over and cost around 38USD in country where i lives. I prefer this over carrying a spare battery.

alright i got an update, so from 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. the battery drained down to 16% from 100% i guess thats not too bad considering i used it mildly , but still i think this is still too much drainage, i had airplane mode on, i had wifi off, and i used all the reg fixes and what not. so im gonna let it drain completly install that rom that you were talking about and see how stuff goes tommarow.

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alright i got an update, so from 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. the battery drained down to 16% from 100% i guess thats not too bad considering i used it mildly , but still i think this is still too much drainage, i had airplane mode on, i had wifi off, and i used all the reg fixes and what not. so im gonna let it drain completly install that rom that you were talking about and see how stuff goes tommarow.
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Wow, that is pretty bad. I'm normally on the go with mine from around 10am to 8pm, and use bluetooth, music, 3G, browsing, texting, a few games, and exchange/gmail/hotmail sync every 30mins. By the end of the day, the battery's usually around 50%. Have you tried different radios? they made a big difference for me.

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Wow, that is pretty bad. I'm normally on the go with mine from around 10am to 8pm, and use bluetooth, music, 3G, browsing, texting, a few games, and exchange/gmail/hotmail sync every 30mins. By the end of the day, the battery's usually around 50%. Have you tried different radios? they made a big difference for me.
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no, i havent tried that yet, do you have a specific radio you would recomend?

tuppaacc said:
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- I've came to realize that the Energy Rom's drain my battery soooooooo quick, So I stop Using energy's Rom's, I've also Notice that Duttys 2.11 base Rom with 2.09 Radio (Not the 2.13 base Rom) It has given me almost 2 full days (listening to music as well) so try out different roms and see whats best for you.​
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would you happen to have a download link to duttys rom? i looked around and ound one but im not sure if its the right 2.11 base build. thanks​

I run Direct Push all day long starting at 7:30 AM... Right now it's 12:42AM the following day and I'm at 25% left. I don't do a lot of talking. Mostly email, texting, twitter, Internet with maybe 15 minutes total of talk time per day. I also end all tasks in the task manager before I put my phone down for any amount of time and leave wifi turned off unless I want to connect to a network.
I've found that if I'm in a location without a good signal that my battery drains a lot faster. Searching for a signal is taxing the battery... Lucky for me I'm always in really good 3G spots. House and office both have full 3G bars.
I'm running stock everything.
If I turn off direct push, I'll use like 25% over the course of like 15 hours... It lasts almost two full days...
When I get a new phone or any gadget with a lithium ion battery, I always make sure to drain the battery completely and fully recharge with the power off at least for the first two charges to condition it. It really does make the battery hold a charge for a longer period. Transformers is a good way to drain this phone... With my HD2 I let the battery drain completely twice with two "power off" full recharges. By completely drain, I mean, keep turning it back on until eventually it won't turn on at all...
I noticed with this phone that once the battery was completely drained, that I had to actually remove the battery and put it back in so that it would even charge... I thought that was weird, but no big deal... I'm also pretty good about letting it completely drain at least once during the week with a "phone off" full recharge...
Battery maintenance 101 with Crisisintheciy.

Update: alright today after a full discharge and then a full charge overnight i ran the phone using kumars rom along with the 2.09 radio and the power saver on sbs tweaks and those reg edits that tuppacc gave me. today i left the wifi and the phone function on, and yesterday i didnt, anyway once again i used it mildly , but a little bit more then yesterday, so from 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. it went from 100% to 10% , which to me is still crappy, so i think im gonna go ahead and order a new battery and see if thats whats wrong.

barronedson said:
Update: alright today after a full discharge and then a full charge overnight i ran the phone using kumars rom along with the 2.09 radio and the power saver on sbs tweaks and those reg edits that tuppacc gave me. today i left the wifi and the phone function on, and yesterday i didnt, anyway once again i used it mildly , but a little bit more then yesterday, so from 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. it went from 100% to 10% , which to me is still crappy, so i think im gonna go ahead and order a new battery and see if thats whats wrong.
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To me that's good. I can barely get 4 hours from 100% to about 10%. Well that's because I use it non stop, surfing the web. Now during the night without touching it i get like 10% drained during 7-8 hours.

Huge battery drain

Since I installed CHT 2.0 battery drain is terrible: 20% lost in 10 hours during night, with all data connection off.
I have enabled three battery status indicators for battery temp, voltage and current: could some one please tell me what would be the correct values for a normal battery life?
Thanks

thegios said:
Since I installed CHT 2.0 battery drain is terrible: 20% lost in 10 hours during night, with all data connection off.
I have enabled three battery status indicators for battery temp, voltage and current: could some one please tell me what would be the correct values for a normal battery life?
Thanks
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To be honest, 80% battery after 10 hours is not bad...
I had a problem with battery only lasting 5 hours - turned out to be a faulty SD card...
Which ROM have you installed?
Dave©

Dave© said:
To be honest, 80% battery after 10 hours is not bad...
I had a problem with battery only lasting 5 hours - turned out to be a faulty SD card...
Which ROM have you installed?
Dave©
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yeah but actually before CHT2.0 I had 5% of drain in 8 hours, so jumping to 20% in 10 hours looks quite bad to me...
I have stock rom ita 1.66.408.1 with radio 2.15.50.14

AFAIR monitoring widgets caused increased power consumption on my device,
what I'd suggest is installation of BattClock, which can display current (mA) usage, and checking what is idle usage with and without those widgets (or adding one by one until you find the culprit). Normally, idle power consumption - i.e. the mA you see after turning the device on - should be somewhere around 2-8 mA.

p107r0 said:
AFAIR monitoring widgets caused increased power consumption on my device,
what I'd suggest is installation of BattClock, which can display current (mA) usage, and checking what is idle usage with and without those widgets (or adding one by one until you find the culprit). Normally, idle power consumption - i.e. the mA you see after turning the device on - should be somewhere around 2-8 mA.
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that's what I guessed but was not sure... I have uninstalled and reinstalled CHT 2.0 with no monitoring widgets and i have now installed batlog, so that tonite I will start the log and see what happens

how about cookie 1.85?
same battery drain or less?

aboveluna said:
how about cookie 1.85?
same battery drain or less?
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less for sure

thegios said:
that's what I guessed but was not sure... I have uninstalled and reinstalled CHT 2.0 with no monitoring widgets and i have now installed batlog, so that tonite I will start the log and see what happens
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I have verufied: with only batlog running for logging, pushmail off but 3g on, I have a constant -75mA drainage

thegios said:
I have verufied: with only batlog running for logging, pushmail off but 3g on, I have a constant -75mA drainage
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a little bit too much I would think... shouldn't it be around -5mA in standby mode?

Solution
Hey there,
did you find any solution? I got the same problem.
With 3G and maybe 20minutes call I had about 10% loss per day. But with cht 2.0, it is about 25% per day without any programs running. When I check the CPU usage with battery clock, it's jumping on idle today screen between 8 and 40%. It is always over 100mA with 20% backlight and NO program running, just showing the home screen. That can't be normal. With old CHT no problems like that. Best was definitly without using CHT at all. Manila crashes around 1 time a week.
Regards

How many desktops are u using ?

3 upper and 3 lower. But the lower ones are just direct links that extend full. so let's say 3 times the stock desktop.

Are you using many widgets that requires internet connection ?

100mA with screen on (even with low light) is absolutely normal and ok.
Do you remember how huge our screen is?
I think your problem is caused by CHT, the effects use too much CPU-power.
I a think of the same problems when I was using WM.

Well,
like I told before, without CHT I never had these battery drains!
Which effects do you mean? Just 16 more direct links, nothing else? That's a bad joke of software programming...
And it's also not the storage card. With it taken out it's the same.
I don't use any widgets for internet connection, 3g/2g/phone switch off does also not change a thing. It is really just CHT.
I use my hd2 for navigation, some chats and phone, internet like never. I dont need that facebook/twitter/weather **** on my phone.
I will go back to stock and just add all my small used tools via startmenu. Don't care about slappy programmed cht.
Is there an alternate tool just to get some more levels for desktop, nothing else?
Regards

Take a look for SPB Mobile Shell. I think there is a trial version, you can check if that will resolve your issues.
[:german:] Schau mal nach SPB Mobile Shell, das ist eine Alternative zu Sense, vielleicht löst das deine Probleme.

I ve used cht 2.0 and I didn t notice more power drain. As I remember there are some settings for animations, try to disable extra animations. I am not sure if cht creates error logs. Try to look for logs from CHT maybe you have something corrupted.