Since I installed CHT 2.0 battery drain is terrible: 20% lost in 10 hours during night, with all data connection off.
I have enabled three battery status indicators for battery temp, voltage and current: could some one please tell me what would be the correct values for a normal battery life?
Thanks
thegios said:
Since I installed CHT 2.0 battery drain is terrible: 20% lost in 10 hours during night, with all data connection off.
I have enabled three battery status indicators for battery temp, voltage and current: could some one please tell me what would be the correct values for a normal battery life?
Thanks
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To be honest, 80% battery after 10 hours is not bad...
I had a problem with battery only lasting 5 hours - turned out to be a faulty SD card...
Which ROM have you installed?
Dave©
Dave© said:
To be honest, 80% battery after 10 hours is not bad...
I had a problem with battery only lasting 5 hours - turned out to be a faulty SD card...
Which ROM have you installed?
Dave©
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yeah but actually before CHT2.0 I had 5% of drain in 8 hours, so jumping to 20% in 10 hours looks quite bad to me...
I have stock rom ita 1.66.408.1 with radio 2.15.50.14
AFAIR monitoring widgets caused increased power consumption on my device,
what I'd suggest is installation of BattClock, which can display current (mA) usage, and checking what is idle usage with and without those widgets (or adding one by one until you find the culprit). Normally, idle power consumption - i.e. the mA you see after turning the device on - should be somewhere around 2-8 mA.
p107r0 said:
AFAIR monitoring widgets caused increased power consumption on my device,
what I'd suggest is installation of BattClock, which can display current (mA) usage, and checking what is idle usage with and without those widgets (or adding one by one until you find the culprit). Normally, idle power consumption - i.e. the mA you see after turning the device on - should be somewhere around 2-8 mA.
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that's what I guessed but was not sure... I have uninstalled and reinstalled CHT 2.0 with no monitoring widgets and i have now installed batlog, so that tonite I will start the log and see what happens
how about cookie 1.85?
same battery drain or less?
aboveluna said:
how about cookie 1.85?
same battery drain or less?
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less for sure
thegios said:
that's what I guessed but was not sure... I have uninstalled and reinstalled CHT 2.0 with no monitoring widgets and i have now installed batlog, so that tonite I will start the log and see what happens
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I have verufied: with only batlog running for logging, pushmail off but 3g on, I have a constant -75mA drainage
thegios said:
I have verufied: with only batlog running for logging, pushmail off but 3g on, I have a constant -75mA drainage
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a little bit too much I would think... shouldn't it be around -5mA in standby mode?
Solution
Hey there,
did you find any solution? I got the same problem.
With 3G and maybe 20minutes call I had about 10% loss per day. But with cht 2.0, it is about 25% per day without any programs running. When I check the CPU usage with battery clock, it's jumping on idle today screen between 8 and 40%. It is always over 100mA with 20% backlight and NO program running, just showing the home screen. That can't be normal. With old CHT no problems like that. Best was definitly without using CHT at all. Manila crashes around 1 time a week.
Regards
How many desktops are u using ?
3 upper and 3 lower. But the lower ones are just direct links that extend full. so let's say 3 times the stock desktop.
Are you using many widgets that requires internet connection ?
100mA with screen on (even with low light) is absolutely normal and ok.
Do you remember how huge our screen is?
I think your problem is caused by CHT, the effects use too much CPU-power.
I a think of the same problems when I was using WM.
Well,
like I told before, without CHT I never had these battery drains!
Which effects do you mean? Just 16 more direct links, nothing else? That's a bad joke of software programming...
And it's also not the storage card. With it taken out it's the same.
I don't use any widgets for internet connection, 3g/2g/phone switch off does also not change a thing. It is really just CHT.
I use my hd2 for navigation, some chats and phone, internet like never. I dont need that facebook/twitter/weather **** on my phone.
I will go back to stock and just add all my small used tools via startmenu. Don't care about slappy programmed cht.
Is there an alternate tool just to get some more levels for desktop, nothing else?
Regards
Take a look for SPB Mobile Shell. I think there is a trial version, you can check if that will resolve your issues.
[:german:] Schau mal nach SPB Mobile Shell, das ist eine Alternative zu Sense, vielleicht löst das deine Probleme.
I ve used cht 2.0 and I didn t notice more power drain. As I remember there are some settings for animations, try to disable extra animations. I am not sure if cht creates error logs. Try to look for logs from CHT maybe you have something corrupted.
Related
The idea of this post is to make a statistic research about the battery drain problem. Maybe this will make us understand the cause of the battery problems -since I couldn't find something that solved the battery problems of all users.
I have checked these posts (and some others)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295191
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287165
and the "Battery SOLVED" topic
There are 3 solutions (they are post in Faria Wiki)
-One is mess with the keys
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
...
-Another is mess with the key
HKLM/Drivers/SDCARD/ClientDrivers/Class/SDMemory_Class/DisablePowerManagement
-And a third solution is to Flash a ROM with FULL battery & let it drain comletelly afterwards.
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Using the "battery status"today add-on I can say this:
The first time I installed faria 3.3 ROM I had huge memory drain problems
I notised that even in stand-by my phone "ate" about 124mA
The registry memory tweaks didn't change this much - maybe 118mA.
The battery in this codition lasted at most 18hours...
I reflashed Faria3.3 with the mobile FULLY charged,let it discharge fully and now I have 84mA consuption if phone goes to sleep and 97mA when not used. Now battery lasts about 48hours without much usage.
With the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms] etc keys changed and with manually shutting down the Wireless Monitor Service(WMS7) was 42mA .
Note: I have Faria3.3 ROM & GSM 2.19 .
In another mobile phone I checked, with 2.17 OS rom & GSM 2.06.10 radio, I see that the when phone is not used the battery drain is 24mA !!!!!
This phone does NOT have the registry tweaks enabled and even with backlight it still stays in 24mA..
Please, post your mA consumption here and say what you have enabled.
Btw, anyone knows why Wireless Monitor Service(WMS7 was enabled (started) even though I have turned off WiFI,bluetooth & IRDA?
152mA, was ALOT higher when i had 5+ programs running, around 200
I have Faria's WM6 and run about 57mA in standby, 125 during normal operations.
Here is my first contribute to this outstanding forum.
Hope this is usefull insearch of the power drain on some devices.
Note:
My phone does NOT have the powermanagement registry tweaks enabled.
And is an clean install with the Faria WM6 (The real Thing) rom.
So there ain't much running.
Just ordered Wisbar Advanced + desktop so hope to see more readings later this week after fully fine tuning my device.
My device
Orange SPV - M3000 Faria WWE WM6 (G3 Unlocked)
IPL/SPL: 2.26
Radio: 2.61.11
ROM: 2.18.0.0
OC: CpuScaler - 130<->273mhz By BatteryStatus
Startup Services
CapNotify
SIPChange (Resco Keyboard)
Startclean
Today Plugins
BatteryStatus incl Tray applet
Running Hardware
Bluetooth= off
GPRS= off
Radio= on
WiFi= off
IR= off
Power drain Bat= 100% charged
Wakeup: 70mA (after 5 <-> 10 minutes)
Softreset: 258mA
Hardreset: 350mA
Standby + 50% backlight: 302mA
After charging: (and pulling the plug out) 180 -> 250 mA
All readings do not change until i manualy interrupt the current status off my device.
I mean if my device after wakeup says 219mA the reading does not change even when i run different software apps.
Even if the CpuScaler clocked 130mhz the reading will not change.
I think that BatteryStatus is broken or something else is interfearing with the readings.
i went from 175mA to 125mA... just by going from 0 to 1 with the next tweak:
HKLM/Drivers/SDCARD/ClientDrivers/Class/SDMemory_Class/DisablePowerManagement
i use Fario's rom..
trying other tweaks now..
ok:
so without doing anything it just suddenly dropt back to 64mA.... :\
ok:
booting takes 280mA
I recommend not to use these ::: they sucked out my battery even more.. from 125 to 247
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
Today i did made two changes on my device and noticed the following.
First i updated my Radio rom from 2.19.11 to 2.61.11. (No errors everything works fine)
I just wanted a better radio because the signal strengh overhere is verry bad.
This update has on my device an nice site effect.
Powerdrain dropped by several mA.
Wakeup: 61mA (after 5 <-> 10 minutes)
Softreset: 201mA
Hardreset: 299mA
Second i messed with the key
HKLM/Drivers/SDCARD/ClientDrivers/Class/SDMemory_Class/DisablePowerManagement
I did not notice any effect on this reg tweak
I am using Wizard 100 ( Cingular 8125)
EDGE ON 24x7
Fetch mail using poutlook every 10 minis
Notification & Task Running
WiFI OFF
decient battery life: fully charged battery comes to 1.5 days..
--tux
i dont know what i did.. but its at 42mA right now.. and sins my last post.. it was @ 76% battery.. and right now its @ 75%... that means more then 12 hours have passed.. and its only down by 1 %...
last post was @ 01:30 PM...
WOW!!!!!!!!!!~!!!!!!!!!
like i said.. it took a really long time for 1 %..
but the moment i sent an sms message... it went from 75% to 71%..!!!
damnnn
Seems as if batterystatus is broken: my readings dont update either: it seems stuck at the same mA-value all the time, no matter what I do, or which clockspeed I use...
Also: the powermeter keeps at 99% (had been 83% as well); it never changes : (
My battery from 100% to drop to 99% might take 8-12 hours , then from 99% to 90% might take few hours (maybe 1-3 hours).
This seems to be normal.
I'm using the mA consumption because if you have an 1250mA battery I think this is the best unit to measure battery.
My apologies, but which program are people using to measure battery life consumption and how does one tell which program is causing the problem? In the past week, I have noticed my battery life take a nose dive and I'm wondering if it is pRSS Reader that causing my problem. I installed a power saving cab found on this forum site and I will test it tonight. Thanks for the help.
It might also be worth considering usage of GPRS, Push email, WiFi, BT, etc.
Curious D said:
My apologies, but which program are people using to measure battery life consumption and how does one tell which program is causing the problem? In the past week, I have noticed my battery life take a nose dive and I'm wondering if it is pRSS Reader that causing my problem. I installed a power saving cab found on this forum site and I will test it tonight. Thanks for the help.
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Be careful of power saving cabs. Some of them actually increase battery consumption.
I think most people are using battery status to check consumption.
BTW:
At wake up: 24-30 mA
When the phone has a signal, the consumption rate is low 24-30 mA throughout the day. When it is searching for a signal (normally at my work), the consumption is substantially grater. When I get back home the consumption goes back down to the normal 24-30 mA (I always have a signal at home).
calouro said:
BTW:
At wake up: 24-30 mA
When the phone has a signal, the consumption rate is low 24-30 mA throughout the day. When it is searching for a signal (normally at my work), the consumption is substantially grater. When I get back home the consumption goes back down to the normal 24-30 mA (I always have a signal at home).
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Did you ever perform the antenna hack(i.e. adding xtra piece of foil) on your Wizard?
MethodMan said:
Did you ever perform the antenna hack(i.e. adding xtra piece of foil) on your Wizard?
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No,
I never applied the fix.
I haven’t done enough research on the fix to justify applying it. Maybe when I get some extra time.
The signal goes in and out at work, so it's not a big deal for me!
Running an 8125 with Faria's WM5 3.3 ROM.
When I wake it up it's usually 51, or somewhere in the 50's anyway.
I just tried those powermanagement reg tweaks and had terrible results too :\
My wizard can last 3 days with moderate usage of wifi, phone calls, and movies. This happened after I followed the Battery Solved thread and reflash with official ROM and then I installed Xplore1.1. And for the first cycle after first time after fully charging overnight, I can get the 3days of continous battery life..
Since then, I have been monitoring CPU usage and it hovers around 1-5% (Battery status) when idle... Bear in mind that the current consumption value can be around 33mA to 150mA and still battery life seems to be good...
Weird but through...
calouro said:
Be careful of power saving cabs. Some of them actually increase battery consumption.
I think most people are using battery status to check consumption.
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Thanks for the warning. I used the power saving cab that was posted from a link at the beginning of the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295191
(Second post)
Is that one okay? I'm not sure if it worked since I used my phone alot this evening. I have the standard ROM that came with the phone back in October. Thanks.
I get the solution for Battery Performance
jtrash said:
The idea of this post is to make a statistic research about the battery drain problem. Maybe this will make us understand the cause of the battery problems -since I couldn't find something that solved the battery problems of all users.
I have checked these posts (and some others)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295191
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287165
and the "Battery SOLVED" topic
There are 3 solutions (they are post in Faria Wiki)
-One is mess with the keys
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
...
-Another is mess with the key
HKLM/Drivers/SDCARD/ClientDrivers/Class/SDMemory_Class/DisablePowerManagement
-And a third solution is to Flash a ROM with FULL battery & let it drain comletelly afterwards.
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Using the "battery status"today add-on I can say this:
The first time I installed faria 3.3 ROM I had huge memory drain problems
I notised that even in stand-by my phone "ate" about 124mA
The registry memory tweaks didn't change this much - maybe 118mA.
The battery in this codition lasted at most 18hours...
I reflashed Faria3.3 with the mobile FULLY charged,let it discharge fully and now I have 84mA consuption if phone goes to sleep and 97mA when not used. Now battery lasts about 48hours without much usage.
With the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms] etc keys changed and with manually shutting down the Wireless Monitor Service(WMS7) was 42mA .
Note: I have Faria3.3 ROM & GSM 2.19 .
In another mobile phone I checked, with 2.17 OS rom & GSM 2.06.10 radio, I see that the when phone is not used the battery drain is 24mA !!!!!
This phone does NOT have the registry tweaks enabled and even with backlight it still stays in 24mA..
Please, post your mA consumption here and say what you have enabled.
Btw, anyone knows why Wireless Monitor Service(WMS7 was enabled (started) even though I have turned off WiFI,bluetooth & IRDA?
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Dear,
I have upgraded my HTC Touch from WM 6.0 to 6.1. I have faced the big problem of Heavy Battery Drain. I was confused. I try to find out the solution over XDA Forum.
My problem was, "after charged 100%, then after 5-10 menutes it goes to 80%. and then it start draining very fast."
I have changed the registry for :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
and Set the Wireless Monitor Service from Automatic to Manual.
But, I still have the same problem, why after 100% charged & after unpluged it goes to 94% thereafter 88% and within 5 menute it goes to 80%.
Thanks to the XDA Forum Members, help me out.
Mehul Patel
Hi.
i am using Touch HD with extended 2600mAH battery and lots of software but the battery barely last a day. i was hoping you could help me diagnose the problem.
configuration :
-duttys XT 3.0 using manila
-1 hour of talk time a day at the most
these are my main suspects :
-checking for mail on two accounts every half an hour
-S2U2 1.62
-phonealarm
-pocketbreeze new PB2
-touchresponse
i installed nueDynamicClock but i can't see any difference.
first of all, maybe this sounds normal to you ? maybe my device is defected ? i'm sure the battery is ok.
maybe someone knows a good battery diagnostic program...
any comments you have on any of my suspected software ?
thanks,
david
Try this, quoted from official HTC site:
My battery drains fast even without using Bluetooth, WiFi or GPS. Is there any way to check if it’s faulty or not?
1. Charge the battery to 100%. 2. Disable from running or uninstall any 3rd party applications. 3. Disable Bluetooth. 4. Disable WiFi. 5. Enable flight mode 6. Set backlight to maximum settings. 7. In the power management settings, uncheck any option that would set the backlight to turn off. 8. Let phone stay idle for 1 hour and check battery capacity. 9. If there is a loss of 40% or more, then this means that battery is faulty and needs to be replaced.
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jankos said:
Try this, quoted from official HTC site:
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Thanks for that. I've been a little concerned with my battery life so i'll give that a try later.
jankos said:
Try this, quoted from official HTC site:
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well obviously this doesn't help me too much because, as stated, the battery last almost a day with full usage so this diagnostic will be a negative... but surely something is wrong. Thanks anyway.
didn't anyone have any problems with one of the above ?
Max battery life
Battery drain in almost a day is quite normal with most of the roms
exception, i flashed Black Pearls v2.4 rom and the battery is still 20 to 30% at the end of the day. myself satisfied with the performance of this rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495233
update the 3d drivers after flashing the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3059269&postcount=3
denjo said:
Battery drain in almost a day is quite normal with most of the roms
exception, i flashed Black Pearls v2.4 rom and the battery is still 20 to 30% at the end of the day. myself satisfied with the performance of this rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495233
update the 3d drivers after flashing the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3059269&postcount=3
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flashing a rom just to check this seems like a overkill...
i was wondering about any diagnostic tools allowing me to see the consumption without waiting a whole day to compare, any on knows of any ?
dudikbs said:
Hi.
i am using Touch HD with extended 2600mAH battery and lots of software but the battery barely last a day. i was hoping you could help me diagnose the problem.
configuration :
-duttys XT 3.0 using manila
-1 hour of talk time a day at the most
these are my main suspects :
-checking for mail on two accounts every half an hour
-S2U2 1.62
-phonealarm
-pocketbreeze new PB2
-touchresponse
i installed nueDynamicClock but i can't see any difference.
first of all, maybe this sounds normal to you ? maybe my device is defected ? i'm sure the battery is ok.
maybe someone knows a good battery diagnostic program...
any comments you have on any of my suspected software ?
thanks,
david
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Why dont you check the idle cpu usage when your phone is on but not doing anything. It should be 98-99% most of the time. If you get high cpu usage by shell or services then it is most probably phoneAlarm or other plugins on Today screen.
If you are using wifi, make sure you set it to off when standby. (Note: If you are using AE Button (mine is v2.63) and if you use it to turn ON wifi, the wifi will not go to sleep even in standby thus draining battery)
Hi, i've noticed that my hd heats up really a lot, and at the same time i realised that in task manager a so called "idle process" it's allways at +80% from processor speed.
Do you think it's sometinh to do to the fact that the device it's allways hot (even wen in standby) and the batery drains relatively fast and also the fact that it takes ages to charge. I've allready sent it on repair and received it today with stock rom 1.56, but the problem remains spite they've said that everything was ok...
I've flash the Dutty's V3.3 XT and on the task manager i've noticed that idle process... it makes me wonder...
Don't wonder.
The idle process isn't doing anything. It is certainly not the cause of battery drain or heat.
It's actually not even a process, just a "counter" telling you how much of the processor is doing nothing.
If you look at the task manager in your own computer, you'll see that it also has an "idle process". It's the same thing.
For more information regarding the idle process just google "Idle process" and you'll get a ton (actually about 409,000 ) hits...
brgds
Royan
You can use an application that can monitor current drawn from the battery to see if you have an issue. There are many apps that can be used - i use phone alarm from pocketmax.net that acts as a profile switcher, but has many additional functions including power monitoring and battery temperature.
Typical values that i see are as follows
Idle (no apps running) radio on, wi fi off, screen set at level 2 --> around 84 - 100mA
While browsing the internet via wifi, this typically increase to around 170mA
While browsing internet via 3G this can increase upto 350 - 500mA peek.
The touch HD can get very warm when in use.
Hope this helps
Your not the only one mate, my phone has just started getting stupidly hot and running down the battery stupidly quick and taking ages to charge!
See here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512224
I'm going to call up orange today and see what they say!
Cheers
Jake
ardsar said:
The touch HD can get very warm when in use.
Hope this helps
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The thing is, its getting very warm with NO USE. It can run the entire battery flat in less than 12 hours with NO USE.
Jake
jake_tenfloors said:
The thing is, its getting very warm with NO USE. It can run the entire battery flat in less than 12 hours with NO USE.
Jake
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Might be a faulty battery?
Seen this one: http://www.htc.com/www/faqs.aspx?p_id=179&cat=0&id=85780 ?
brgds
Royan
Royan said:
Might be a faulty battery?
Seen this one: http://www.htc.com/www/faqs.aspx?p_id=179&cat=0&id=85780 ?
brgds
Royan
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Yeh i've seen that, going to do it tonight!
Jake
My hd2 is losing almost 10 % per hour. If i use wifi to update weather etc in sence it may lose 5% in under 5 minutes~!!
I am sure that is coming from a bad app i am using, causing battery drain!!
Please help, any ideas which it may be??
I have installed both free apps and apps i had bought for my hd as well.
Resco explorer
Fingerkeyboard 2.1
gfreek F_Brians tskbar v5.a (many say that taskbar cause also bat troubles..)\
Pim backup
Resco contact manager
Lockscreen fix v4 by heartofwolf
16 shortcuts for sense
Resco audio recorder
sms report eraser jgui
core player
mosko mobi fim
marketplace
skyfire
wvd
midomi
million dollar pocker
PPC visuals Dusk showcase1.0.1b (because hd2 dont have task manager where i want it to be!)
Thats all!! All installed into main memory..(and of course most of them not active as task never! - only apps that running like taskbar, task manager, resco etc..)
ANY IDEAS WHAT TO TRY??
What I would do in your situation it would be to do a hard-reset and check if the situation keeps the same. If not, I would start to install apps one by one and check which one is doing that.
If i cant find any other solution, yes ill do that. But i want to go the other way round, and simply by unistalling find the problem.
The truth is though that the first 24 hours that i had my hd as stock (no apps, not even my contacts) and only the sence configured the battery was still draining fast..And with little usage i lost 40% in about 5 hours..Still far away from the battery tests from our friend xmoo here in xda..
Other users experience???? Please post here so we can check!
I too am experiencing fast battery drain. Only used for about1 hour and already 77% left.
I am wondering.... if anyone who is experiencing fast drain did not charge their phone for a good few hours upon receipt or if it was used while charging for first time.
in the modaco hands-on review, Paul said his battery improved after a few depletion/charging cycles
Hi all ! How should we do it corectly? Is there a plan? 3 charges of 12 h after complete discharge or something like that?
Thank you in advance !
i don't have the answer but can confirm great battery life. I plugged mine in immediately when i got it and left it plugged i over night. To my surprise, i am getting the best battery live of any htc product ive owned (and that's a lot lol) with pretty substantial use. Now the difference between you and me may be 3g. I live in the states and don't get 3g, also i set mine to gsm only. Maybe try gsm only for a few hours?
I've also turned off auto brightness and have it on the lowest setting most of the time, as it's enough for me and helps get the most out of the battery.
the correct way to get the battery in best possible shape
before first use...charge over night
..then use untill battery is completely empty...
...then load over night again (that means about 10 hours)
you do that 10 times in a raw and your battery will be in the best possible shape. From there, you don't have to do the extremes every time but at the beginning it takes about 10 full charging circles for the battery to use its full potential.
[email protected] said:
the correct way to get the battery in best possible shape
before first use...charge over night
..then use untill battery is completely empty...
...then load over night again (that means about 10 hours)
you do that 10 times in a raw and your battery will be in the best possible shape. From there, you don't have to do the extremes every time but at the beginning it takes about 10 full charging circles for the battery to use its full potential.
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thats complete bull**** on litium ion batteries.
Li-ion doesn't need to do the full charging cicles and deplete the 100% of the battery will damage the battery.
My experience with the HD2 battery is great: I get two to three days with one chargecycle. I have set the networktype on GSM and not on Auto.. I think this helps.
darken_rahl said:
My experience with the HD2 battery is great: I get two to three days with one chargecycle. I have set the networktype on GSM and not on Auto.. I think this helps.
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this is the only way I can ever get my handsets to go more than one day! Fine for emails / calendar sync, not so handy for browsing/maps though!
What I do with my mobiles is:
When I open it, I use it till the battery is completly over;
Charge the mobile during 10/12 h;
Then use the mobile normally and charge it whenever I want;
After 1 month, I let the battery get completly drained and then do another full charge.
Altough is LI-ON battery and it has no memory, it's necessary to do a "full" recharge from time to time to "calibrate". Don't know if it's really like that, but it's what I've been doing and it works great for me.
I HAVE 3G ENABLED ALL THE TIME,AND WHEN I GOT THE PHONE I BEGAN USING IT ASAP WITG THE CHARGER ON, TILL 100 percent! Writing from thd phone noe as it... charges!51 percent with almost no usage the last 7 hours! Maybe i ll try the full drain thing! Just to check!
ps. also the typing expirience sucks for me.does the aling screen option works in this kind of screen!?
How's the reception in your area? I had a phone that during night, with only GSM network, drained 30% in my home. But in other areas, 1/2% only.
kostasalfa said:
My hd2 is losing almost 10 % per hour. If i use wifi to update weather etc in sence it may lose 5% in under 5 minutes~!!
I am sure that is coming from a bad app i am using, causing battery drain!!
Please help, any ideas which it may be??
I have installed both free apps and apps i had bought for my hd as well.
Resco explorer
Fingerkeyboard 2.1
gfreek F_Brians tskbar v5.a (many say that taskbar cause also bat troubles..)\
Pim backup
Resco contact manager
Lockscreen fix v4 by heartofwolf
16 shortcuts for sense
Resco audio recorder
sms report eraser jgui
core player
mosko mobi fim
marketplace
skyfire
wvd
midomi
million dollar pocker
PPC visuals Dusk showcase1.0.1b (because hd2 dont have task manager where i want it to be!)
Thats all!! All installed into main memory..(and of course most of them not active as task never! - only apps that running like taskbar, task manager, resco etc..)
ANY IDEAS WHAT TO TRY??
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1) let it charge overnight (8hr+), phone off, straight from socket not through pc usb
2) fully drain the battery then fully recharge. repeat for 2-3 times
3) try flight mode (if there is one), let it idle for 1 hour or more. any drain?
4) go through settings and switch off periodic updates (activesync, weather, email). any drain?
5) remove questionable program(s) and see if it helps
6) worst case scenario, hard reset and check if battery usage is back to normal. then install one program at a time
hnparedes said:
When I open it, I use it till the battery is completly over;
[*]Charge the mobile during 10/12 h;
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After 1 month, I let the battery get completly drained and then do another full charge.
Altough is LI-ON battery and it has no memory, it's necessary to do a "full" recharge from time to time to "calibrate".
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that's the best way to destroy battery. it is a li-ion: first time it's importante to have fast charge.
wot i do is:
-fast charge and never let the battery die.
in this way, alla my phone have an eccellent battery as the first day.
There must be something corrupted with your device.
I had min in use from Friday noon to Sunday late afternoon (forgot my charger at home):
about 1 hour of phone usage, push mail activated, weather sync (syncs all hours), took 5 pictures (2 footprint and 3 normal in hires) and alarm at Saturday and Sunday morning
battery dropped from 100% to 21% in this timeframe with the above usage. I think this is not too bad
kersh said:
thats complete bull**** on litium ion batteries.
Li-ion doesn't need to do the full charging cicles and deplete the 100% of the battery will damage the battery.
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probably you aren't very knowledgable regarding batteries...I am.
altho Lithium-Ion batteries have no memory, they still need to be charged correctly at the beginning to free up the potential.
but whatever...do whatever makes you sleep at night
Can you tell us exactly what is the best charging routine for our phone please. When new and when its been used for a while. Thanks.
I am really going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!
Tonight again after 8 hours of standby it went from 100% to 70% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is not normal...
I only have: weather every 6 hours, facebook every 2 hours, pushmail (but usually I turn it off at night)...
I do not have data autodisconnect, but untill a few days ago I never had drain issue...
I tried monitoring battery with a bat log program, and in standby it never goes lower than -75mA...
Signal at home is eprfect, so it cannot be a signal problem...
Could it be that my battery (after 1 year an 3 months) is nearly dead and in discharging quickly? How can I verify?
I am also attaching the datalog usage and as you can see there's not many data connections going on in standby: 22Kb from 22:00 till 23:00, 1Kb from 2:00 till midnight and 96Kb in 6 hours from midnight till 06:00am. I don't think that this data usage could justify a 30% drainage in 8 hours...
Thanks
75mA drain in standby is not normal, in WM you should be at 2mA.
If you can't identify which program is not sleeping then I would flash the newest stock ROM and see if this cures the issue.
boomboomer said:
75mA drain in standby is not normal, in WM you should be at 2mA.
If you can't identify which program is not sleeping then I would flash the newest stock ROM and see if this cures the issue.
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it's not a rom problem... when I upgraded to 1.66 stock I was not having this problem... it strted recently... and 3.14 has far too many problems
thegios said:
I am really going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!
Tonight again after 8 hours of standby it went from 100% to 70% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is not normal...
I only have: weather every 6 hours, facebook every 2 hours, pushmail (but usually I turn it off at night)...
I do not have data autodisconnect, but untill a few days ago I never had drain issue...
I tried monitoring battery with a bat log program, and in standby it never goes lower than -75mA...
Signal at home is eprfect, so it cannot be a signal problem...
Could it be that my battery (after 1 year an 3 months) is nearly dead and in discharging quickly? How can I verify?
I am also attaching the datalog usage and as you can see there's not many data connections going on in standby: 22Kb from 22:00 till 23:00, 1Kb from 2:00 till midnight and 96Kb in 6 hours from midnight till 06:00am. I don't think that this data usage could justify a 30% drainage in 8 hours...
Thanks
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When did you format your SD card for the last time? A heavily defragmented/malfunctioning SD card can cause huge battery drainage. So, if I were you, and it's a fairly long time ago, I would format SD Card (shut down device- take out Card and put in Reader - insert in PC -right click SD card and choose formatting (slow metho/ds) - after finishing reinsert Card in device and format again with SD card formatting tool). My battery is as old as yours and my overnight drainage in standby (with data connections on) is 3-4% max.
regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
When did you format your SD card for the last time? A heavily defragmented/malfunctioning SD card can cause huge battery drainage. So, if I were you, and it's a fairly long time ago, I would format SD Card (shut down device- take out Card and put in Reader - insert in PC -right click SD card and choose formatting (slow metho/ds) - after finishing reinsert Card in device and format again with SD card formatting tool). My battery is as old as yours and my overnight drainage in standby (with data connections on) is 3-4% max.
regards, Kuzibri
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Even this, I've already done it, plenty of times (I do this at elast every month or two)...
thegios said:
Even this, I've already done it, plenty of times (I do this at elast every month or two)...
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Sorry, hoped that this would be the "simple" solution of this problem. Does your battery take longer to fully charge than usual? If yes, than, certainly in combination with the drainage, I would replace the battery. Can't you borrow one to see if it's really the battery, cause that is still the best test to do? Maybe a superfluous question: did you try a hard reset?
regards, Kuzibri
Edit: forgot these two ones:
1. do you have sometimes the issue that during charging your LED goes from orange to green and back?
2. Clean the pins of the device, look if they function well and are equally high and also clean the contacts of battery with a soft clot
kuzibri said:
Sorry, hoped that this would be the "simple" solution of this problem. Does your battery take longer to fully charge than usual? If yes, than, certainly in combination with the drainage, I would replace the battery. Can't you borrow one to see if it's really the battery, cause that is still the best test to do? Maybe a superfluous question: did you try a hard reset?
I don't know any1 else with an HD1 :-(
battery charges quite quickly on the wall socket, slower via usb butbthat's normal...
hard reset?!?!?! noooooooooooooo hahahaha I'm trying to figure out what's the problem to avoid hard resetting and spending 2 days reinstalling and reconfiguring everything
regards, Kuzibri
Edit: forgot these two ones:
1. do you have sometimes the issue that during charging your LED goes from orange to green and back?
no
2. Clean the pins of the device, look if they function well and are equally high and also clean the contacts of battery with a soft clot
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will try...
btw: if I remove batt the time/date changes... is this normal?
thegios said:
will try...
btw: if I remove batt the time/date changes... is this normal?
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AFAIK, this is not normal behaviour, unless you leave it out for hours and hours.
regards, Kuzibri
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which program did you use for the screenshot you attached ?
backlashsid said:
which program did you use for the screenshot you attached ?
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You can use the following programs for that:
1. SPB Screenshot
2. Whip2Snap
3. BsB tweaks
regards, Kuzibri
Standby is prevented
thegios said:
Tonight again after 8 hours of standby it went from 100% to 70% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have observed this problem also. My tool ResInfo showed me that the device does not change to standby. Only the backlight is switched off. The histogram of the cpu load shows that every few minutes a process becomes quite briefly active. Nevertheless, I could not investigate which module was responsible for it.
Since the ROM update from 1.72 to 3.14 I have not experienced this phenomenon any more.
kuzibri said:
You can use the following programs for that:
1. SPB Screenshot
2. Whip2Snap
3. BsB tweaks
regards, Kuzibri
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man ! i know how to take the screen shot ! i meant which program to give that graph sort of data map !!!!
kuzibri said:
You can use the following programs for that:
1. SPB Screenshot
2. Whip2Snap
3. BsB tweaks
regards, Kuzibri
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actually I have used SPB WIRELESS MONITOR to log the data usage and export the log in a csv file, than imported the log in Excel, gave a little color and formatting and took a screenshot with ALT + PRINTSCREEN
ElectronX said:
I have observed this problem also. My tool ResInfo showed me that the device does not change to standby. Only the backlight is switched off. The histogram of the cpu load shows that every few minutes a process becomes quite briefly active. Nevertheless, I could not investigate which module was responsible for it.
Since the ROM update from 1.72 to 3.14 I have not experienced this phenomenon any more.
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am gonna try ur tool...
btw, dont u have any problem with 3.14?
I mean, sms, cinetic scrolling, others?
ElectronX said:
I have observed this problem also. My tool ResInfo showed me that the device does not change to standby. Only the backlight is switched off. The histogram of the cpu load shows that every few minutes a process becomes quite briefly active. Nevertheless, I could not investigate which module was responsible for it.
Since the ROM update from 1.72 to 3.14 I have not experienced this phenomenon any more.
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Hi,
how can you tell exactly that the phone is not really going to standby?
Would it be possible, in your tool, to add a log function (in csv format) for both battery drain and cpu usage?
I am currently using a task manager tool which in real time shows the running tasks and their cpu usage, but this is almost useless in standby.
What we really need is a tool that, also in standby, keeps on logging active tasks and their cpu usage into a file, let's say every 1-2-4-5-10-15-30 seconds.
thegios said:
Hi,
how can you tell exactly that the phone is not really going to standby?
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If we take the example of the original poster, after charging the battery to 100%, both counters shows 0 hours in the evening.
The next morning one would expect possibly following values:
Battery charge: 97%
Operation: 0h, 2 min, 42 sec
Standby: 8h, 42 min, 42 sec
But if you see this:
Battery charge: 70%
Operation: 8h, 45 min, 42 sec
Standby: 0h, 0 min, 0 sec
Then the device never was in the standby state.
Would it be possible, in your tool, to add a log function (in csv format) for both battery drain and cpu usage?
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Yes, this would be no problem, but...
I am currently using a task manager tool which in real time shows the running tasks and their cpu usage, but this is almost useless in standby.
What we really need is a tool that, also in standby, keeps on logging active tasks and their cpu usage into a file, let's say every 1-2-4-5-10-15-30 seconds.
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This is not possible. Because in standby state, all components of the device are switched without current. Merely the memory (RAM) is supplied still with voltage to data preservation. In addition, the CPU is switched off. Merely a separate, programmable timer and a component for monitoring of the external interfaces are still in company. Therefore, no application can be executed.Hence, such a tool can recognize only after the turning on of the device whether the battery was charged/discharged while in suspend state.
btw, dont u have any problem with 3.14?
I mean, sms, cinetic scrolling, others?
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Here in this post I have written something about this.
thegios said:
it's not a rom problem... when I upgraded to 1.66 stock I was not having this problem... it strted recently... and 3.14 has far too many problems
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I didn't mean to imply that it was the ROM causing the issue, just that a hard reset of the phone's state to a known 'good' condition would remove the doubt of a software change/corruption causing your problems.
If a hard reset and stock ROM still produce the same battery drain then your hardware maybe faulty. To eliminate a software issue try the fresh ROM for a few days without any 3rd party apps installed.
boomboomer said:
I didn't mean to imply that it was the ROM causing the issue, just that a hard reset of the phone's state to a known 'good' condition would remove the doubt of a software change/corruption causing your problems.
If a hard reset and stock ROM still produce the same battery drain then your hardware maybe faulty. To eliminate a software issue try the fresh ROM for a few days without any 3rd party apps installed.
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I may have solved the probelm: removed from auto startip the following links
DelWMPTempFolder from /windows folder
PostBootPopup from /spbbackup folder