I'm looking for advice. Should I stick with the 8525 or get something else.
I'll return it for a new one, but now I'm getting nervous as I read about folks having similar problems with freezing. I do need a reliable phone / pda. While it worked, I liked it, however, the 8525 froze at least once a day, would, at times, balk at making calls, and finally had the phone / internet functions die. It was never dropped nor abused. I did the fool active sync. fix and installed a task manager and a program to re-map the ptt button to voice activated calling. Those are the only changes I made. I am trying to figure out if my bad phone is an exception or the rule.
So, from the standpoint of reliability, would you recommend to stay with the 8525? I do have a choice, and I can change my order from the 8525 to almost any phone. I am considering a downgrade to an 8125. Two of my collegues have them and they are reliable. Any thoughts?
All I can tell you is I have not had any of those issues with mine.
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I'm probably jinxing myself, but I've had mine since mid-January and so far all is great. I power it off and on each day, maybe it helps, who knows. I've also had the occasional freeze and boot-up sometimes freezes but I think those are normal pda things that you just learn to deal with. If you are within your 30 days and you think it's unstable just swap it with a new one.
Did you install your task manager to a storage card? That was a very common problem of freezing for me... two to three times per day. Since I moved all critical apps to the internal memory I've only had two freezes (this was 3 weeks ago) and they were because I was messing with apps.
i had my 8525 for 2.5 weeks and it works great. i have the same hacks plus a few more, especially the bigger button dialer. I did update the ROM to 1.34 (september 2006 version, latest official) from HTC america's official website. Oh, by the way it's an unlocked version using T-Mobile. My biggest complaint is the not-so-firm keyboard. It's ever so slightly slides out in my pocket... Maybe you should flash yours too...
My Out-of-the-box experience was similar to yours. It froze, the bluetooth didn't work at all, ugh. I upgraded to HTC ROM 1.35 and now my Hermes is pretty stable with only one freeze.
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I have been in charge of getting a mobile solution deployed for some of my colleagues and a number (60+) have selected to use the Wizard from varied mobile vendors around the World. There seems to be massive variation in the stability and performance of the devices as shipped. Reading several forums etc it seems that a bad experience is a reset 1-3 times per day and a good experience is a reset every 5-7 days. My coleagues using T-Mobile MDA in the US are having a bad experience. People on Vodafone in the UK seem to be having a better one. What are other experiences in terms of reset frequency and does anyone believe a particular ROM is more stable than others?
Resetting Wizard
The latest T-Mobile UK build is excellent.
I had to reboot 3-4 times a day with the previous buil, but this one is less frequent than weekly.
I don't use much software on it - putting up with the stock calendar etc, but it all serves it's purpose.
Main uses:-
GPS Monitor (my own proggie)
Tom Tom 5.21
Pocket Excel (standard stuff)
Weather Panel
PIE Plus (this is a fantastic add on to PIE)
The original US didn't seem to be the most stable thing I'd come across. After applying the 2.17 ROM found here, however, it was *very* stable. I can go days without having to reset it. I've found a few things that really help stability, too:
Don't overclock. If the software you use is worth a damn, you don't need it.
Don't use today plug-ins. They suck up memory and cpu time, they don't give it back, they don't play well with others and they destablize everything over time. I've found it best to keep the today screen as clean as possible.
Note how apps behave and replace those that don't play well with others.
Since putting the new T-Mobile ROM on my phone Ive only had to reset when my games (which arent build for the device) mess up. Seems perfect so far!
Yep, a lot more stable and faster since getting the latest T-Mobile ROM. Now got it overclocked which is causing no problems but extra benefits.
Plus I found PhoneAlarm by Pocket Max recently which I think is a brilliant.
Doing a new poll becuase a lot of new owners voted, which skewed the results badly as this problems happens over time, so:
ONLY VOTE AFTER YOU HAVE IT FOR TWO WEEKS OR MORE
I think these numbers are going to be realy ugly..
(please ignore the 3rd polling option, I didn't know you could see results w/out voting...)
1st
HT631... serial
O2 Trion
Ht626...dumped it..
and bought Dopod838Pro...will vote for this SN after 1 more week...still behaving after a week..knock !!
Could this be a memory problem?
Realised that I had just installed a large app to main memory just before this started to happen after around 6 trouble free weeks with the device.
Uninstalled this and another big application from main memory to SD card and the problem appears to have vanised. Of course, I could just be kidding myself, but it was pretty bad before, about every hour needing to be reset.
Anyone comment on this?
thanks
HT626 Trion:
Got the unit last monday. Plagued with alignment issues until I installed the cingular rom.
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This is day 4 and I have soft reset the device about 15 times (for installation, and crashes related to buggy software), surfed all day on it using both Opera and IE, wrote a few emails, played bubble breaker (very intense tapping all over), and the alignment is still perfect. All this is back and forth portrait and landscape.
I think those who have the alignment issue, should upgrade to the cingular rom 1.34 and see if the problem goes away. It's the only way we'll know for sure.
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Others who are having this problem, please try and install the cingular rom, so we can finally get to the bottom of this and once and for all decide whether this is software or hardware.
3 more days and I will vote.
Turning out just as we suspected...
The more time you wait, the more chances you have of getting this, so screen issue is very, very real and hard to avoid.
Im still with the premice that the alignment issue seems to arrise when using a large ammount of main memory...as with another poster i uninstalled some apps from the main memory and used my SD card....alignment issue vanished.
mrvanx said:
Im still with the premice that the alignment issue seems to arrise when using a large ammount of main memory...as with another poster i uninstalled some apps from the main memory and used my SD card....alignment issue vanished.
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My Screen problem (HT628) showed up "out of the box"...so without a screen protector and without any software installed...even without a sync with my computer. For me it's definitely a hardware problem and nothing else.
After a month of use, no problems so far (knocking on wood)
HTC TyTN
HT628
HT628
Problems begin after 1 month.
Alignment problems back.
This is with over 48mb of free memory, so I am accepting the exchange unit. Will see how that one goes.
Same thing here.
I've bought a new one and plan to sell the old one with SA problem.
Where to begin....
I have had my wiz for about a year now (maybe longer) and everything was running fine. Nothing special installed really. I've Sim and CID unlocked, flashed to 1.1 and then flashed again to Mr. Frazzz's XDA Mobile 6 (awesome btw) and had been running that for quite some time with battery status as the only other thing I've really added.
One night I was out and managed to hit my touch screen on a table and it shattered. Things ran fine for a while (could still see considering the touch is seperate from the LCD) and managed to use it as a phone using shortcut keys. Then i started getting problems like slowing down etc and I figured it was partially due to the duress of a cracked touch screen making the phone think it was having a part of the screen pushed (or not there) so i finally had the screen, both the touch and lcd, replaced. Shortly after, I noticed the phone would freeze up randomly. (this is also about the time i switched from t-mobile to at&t prepaid) Sometimes it would do it 3 or 4 times a day and the only remedy is removing the battery. Sometimes it will go for over a week without any issues. Any ideas? Im ready to melt it.
Here's what I've done thus far with no results:
Reflashed to official t-mobile 2.26 and then flashed to Mr. Frazzz's WM6. I've re-installed battery status and then came across a thread stating that the latest version of which might be causing hangups....so i gimped it at first, using only settings I had known to work before with no issues and later uninstalled the whole thing. Still having the same problems.
I have the WM6 radio fix for cingular and 2.69.11 radio as well.
One thing I do notice is that, everytime i make a call and receive the system message stating what that call had cost me, it can cause weird things to happen if I was in the process of doing something else. Not sure that's part of the issue though considering the phone will just be sitting in my pocket when it does randomly freeze.
Is it possible that my mem card is just being jostled and causing issues? or that somehow the powerbutton is being adversely affected inside my pocket if the phone gets flipped upside down? Anyone and everyone's imput would be greatly appreciated, especially if Mr. Frazzz has any input. BTW, this has happened using both WM6r3 and r5 by Mr. Frazzz. I upgraded to r5 this last time i reinstalled WM6.
I'm guessing battery status is doing it. Same thing happended to me, did a hard reset, installed all my programs again excluding battery status and everything is fine.
Is there something else I can install that will overclock for me when the phone is active and kick down the speed when idle?
I also used battery status for the disable proxy thingie when wiFi is on.
Well...Overclocking is never safe and the manufacture of a cpu has clocked a cpu at a set speed. Why, because it is more stable. So anything past the stable speed will bound to be unstable. I overclock mine to 260 and still do not notice a boost so either you leave it at 195 and run smoothly or make it "faster" and have more issues. Your call.
Since upgrading my TD2 to the official WM6.5 ROM issued by HTC I have had problems with the handset freezing; the only remedy has been to remove the battery and switch back on. At first I thought it was a hardware fault but a friend's phone has also started doing the same since he upgraded. This never happened previously and only happens every ten days or so.
Has anyone else experienced similar problems?
I'm having the same problems mate. My TD2 on 6.5 freezes spoaradically - I'd say at least twice a week, and the only solution is to remove the battery.
I've been trying to link the freeze with a particular program or app but the phone has frozen at varying times and in many cases whilst no apps are running!
I'm waiting for upgrade on my contract as I've had it with this TD2 and especially WinMo. I mean, how can WinMo store all saved words in SMS on RAM only for it to be wiped after every restart/soft reset?! Why? Argh!
I'm going for the Hero next, and see how nice Android plays!
Good luck with your query...
Mo
miker1892 said:
Since upgrading my TD2 to the official WM6.5 ROM issued by HTC I have had problems with the handset freezing; the only remedy has been to remove the battery and switch back on. At first I thought it was a hardware fault but a friend's phone has also started doing the same since he upgraded. This never happened previously and only happens every ten days or so.
Has anyone else experienced similar problems?
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Does it do this without the mem card installed?
Exactly the same is happening here and the same on my friend's TD2. We have never tried WM 6.1, the first step after purchasing the phone was to upgrade to stock WM 6.5 ROM.
I tried to disable the weather animation on home screen but this doesn't help. My friend has disabled HTC sense and his phone has not frozen after one week. We will have to wait another week or two to proof that this could be the solution.
I hope that Touch Flo is not the cause of this malfunction because WM6.5 UI is very ugly.
I don’t know if the mem card could cause this issue but using the phone without mem card is simply not an option for me. The phone memory is too limited.
My friend also raises this issue on HTC support but so far HTC is ignoring the problem. The only bright word from HTC support was that they will investigate this issue (after many words on how to flash, reflash and hard reset ...).
I really hope that the solution for this very inconvenience will be find out soon.
My TD2 also freezes often compared to Win 6.1 where it almost never froze. I also hope that HTC will make some kind of service pack for Win 6.5 as it doesn't work that well at the moment.
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Does it do this without the mem card installed?
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Not tried it without the memory card, but I need the card for storage. Never froze prior to 6.5 upgrade.
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Not tried it without the memory card, but I need the card for storage. Never froze prior to 6.5 upgrade.
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I'm not suggesting that anyone uses the device without a mem card! You are missing my point.
Phones that freeze do so for a reason and it's necessary to eliminate possible causes.
Some two years ago I did extensive testing on this subject when the same issues arose around another make and model of phone.
One thing I found is that it is possible to induce instability of handsets when mem cards are used (abused?) in certain ways.
My TD2 used to freeze when I first got it and it has also done so with a number of cooked ROMs. With my current ROM it never freezes and there are no instability issues.
I strongly suspect poor coding of apps and lack of thorough beta testing. Isn't it strange how some apps have been around for years and you can rely on their worth?
Installing to mem card causes issues as well as cards that have installed apps being reused after cooked ROM flashing and previous settings and fat tables being left on the card.
Also when power is low mem cards draw large currents that the battery may not be able to give. They are very power hungry. I took this up with Sandisk Tech Dept and they politely told me that the info on current draw under stress (usage) was not for public access!
So my answer is keep your ROM light (no manila or after market 'front end'), minimise card usage by installing all you can to phone mem, reformat afresh with every ROM flash and keep your battery as highly charged as possible at all times.
Some say 'yes but I do all those things and I never get freezes'. That's fine but no help to those that do.
There really is only one way to find out and that is to take a little time and try it for yourself.
Large address book combined with bad 3rd party program
On my Tilt2 I found that applications like Fring could freeze the phone. After a few tries, I decided not intall that anymore (and Fring might have fixed it by now, but I can't afford to try, because uninstalling required a hard reset).
The phone originally came with HTC TouchFLO, but I switched that off, since it just made everything more difficult to reach. And sometimes the fhone became unresponsive, slow or totally frooze. After I disabled it by using the Windows Today (6.5 or classic) after which I only had about 2 freezes in 1.5 year.
Now I finally upgraded to the latest official ROM for the phone, which has HTC Sense on it. After everybody saying how great Sense was, I gave it a try. It worked reasonably, until I started playing with the Favorites in the Peoples tab. After each new addition (I tried 3) I had to restart the phone, and after restart it still hung up.
I happen to have a quite large address book that I synchronize with ActiveSync. I think I'm starting to see a pattern, where several applications - Fring, Sense, etc - just cannot handle large address books.
By the way, to disable Sense, first switch to the Windows Default (= WinMo 6.5) Today screen, and do a soft reset to get rid of Sense background processes. If you want to use the WinMo classic Today screen, then you can do that after the reset. Directly trying to move from Sense to WinMo classic resulted in another freeze. After disabling Sense, I haven't experienced a freeze, (yet !!!).
^^Try a custom rom,Sense works fine on those as the ROM is highly modified with few errors now.
What is your general experience regarding stability with the T-Mobile hd2?
Mine so far has been lack luster. I love the phone, I just wish it was actually stable. My experience thus far has been-
Hangs at lock screen about 2-3 times per day
Texting occasionally lags heavily..
Music app has frozen once
1-2 times per day won't respond after returning lock mode, requires reset.
All the problems I have can be resolved by turning it off and on. So far, I've found myself resetting the phone 4-5 times per day. Anyone having the same experience? Any tips? It's been frustrating. Such an awesome phone, but sometimes it just locks up for no reason and I can't even make a phone call.
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What is your general experience regarding stability with the T-Mobile hd2?
Mine so far has been lack luster. I love the phone, I just wish it was actually stable. My experience thus far has been-
Hangs at lock screen about 2-3 times per day
Texting occasionally lags heavily..
Music app has frozen once
1-2 times per day won't respond after returning lock mode, requires reset.
All the problems I have can be resolved by turning it off and on. So far, I've found myself resetting the phone 4-5 times per day. Anyone having the same experience? Any tips? It's been frustrating. Such an awesome phone, but sometimes it just locks up for no reason and I can't even make a phone call.
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I've found it pretty stable. I have no problems... just as stable, if not more, than any of my previous WM devices. It'll lock up occasionally when I'm experiment with certain apps or settings, but never on normal usage.
Before I flashed to a custom ROM I had all kinds of problems with the phone. It was laggy and was almost unusable. After flashing to a custom ROM all those problems went away. Now I haven't had any problems with the phone and it is very stable now. I would recommend you flashing to a custom ROM if you haven't done so already.
Coming from an HD, I have been using custom ROMs for over a year. However, I haven't yet flashed a custom ROM on my HD2 simply because I have yet to find any problem with the stock ROM (mainly since it's completely up to date and the cooks are using it as their base). So far, I've had only one...maybe two freezes. I'll definitely start flashing custom ROMs once there's an update to manila, but till then, I'll prolly stick with this one (or until i get bored).
(Also, I am a very heavy user, so I'm pleased with just one freeze a week.)
Using stock rom, occasionally using Task Manager to kill something that's sucking CPU, but otherwise very stable. Only hit sleep-of-death twice so far, and rebooted only couple times to fix extreme lag from something unkillable and hidden.
Using my own 8GB SDHC class 6 (instead of crappy 16GB class 2) to cut down battery drain, and using only external GPS. Lots of registry tweaks to turn on power-management, and using BsB Tweaks.
Besides Opera 10 constantly screwing up virtual, runs mostly fine with Garmin Mobile XT, Google Maps, iGo8, Navizon (wow!).
No Problems, What a fine piece of Hardware.
Hello Everyone,
I got my T-Mobile USA HTC HD2 on March 20th,2010 from Walmart 4 days before T-Mobile started sales.
Since I got it, it has been in use 24 hours a day,7 days a week.
Changes I made:
Removed all demo games.
Removed all demo music.
Removed all demo photographs.
Removed all Demo Software.
Removed Google Maps to update.
Got Unlock Code from T-Mobile
Made a few registry changes from this list Here
Installed onto device:
Skype
Google Maps 4.0.0 (#81)
Updated Microsoft My Phone
ICQ
PHM Registry Editor
HTC Wi-Fi Router
Installed on microSDHC Card:
8gb of .wma (lossless) music.
Have the camera store pictures on card.
Bluetooth Stereo Headset:
Sony Ericsson MW600. ( See link in signature )
Rom
I am using the stock shipping T-Mobile USA Rom
2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE
Stability
Not once, I had to do a reset. (hard reset or soft reset)
Not once, I had any lag in messaging application. (sms or mms)
Not once, I had any lag in the music player.
Not once, I had any problems returning to operation from lock status.(Just slide the lock,poof, back to work)
Not once, I had any problems using the Wi-Fi router as a source of connectivity for my notebook.
Not once, I had any problems with weather location and stating where I am.(pretty cool and accurate)
Not once, I had any type of freezing.
Typical Daily Usage, all running at the same time:
Running Skype.
Running ICQ.
Running Yahoo Messenger.
Running Google Maps.
Sending sms / mms. ( about 50-75 a day)
Listening to music.(On MW600 which controls tracks,play/pause,displays track info)
Answering Telephone calls and placing Telephone calls.(usually on MW600)
Surfing and researching topics on the Internet. ( Sometime IE, Sometimes Opera)
Use Microsoft Office ( mostly excel)
Check and update my Facebook Page.
Things I do:
Once finished for the day, I clear message history and clear deleted items.(sms and mms)
Once finished for the day, I clear the call history.
Once finished for the day, I clear Cookies,History,Cache,Temporary Internet Files in IE and Opera.
In Skype,Yahoo,ICQ, I clear conversations once finished.
I keep the Task Manager, Managed !! Once finished with an application, I make sure to shut it down.
Conclusion:
Completely Stable.
A multi-tasking workhorse.
Quick and fast,responsive,no lag or pauses.
A fine piece of electronic harware.
Impressive Sound Quality.
I am 100% impressed and 100% happy with my device.
Thank you,
Monnie
HD2
Hello all,
I have had great stability out of this phone thus far. Only problem I had was a cab that I installed gummed things up for a while, uninstalled it and soft reset and all was good again.
Like any phone, if your going to tweak it or install cabs, do one at a time. Then test the results. See how it effects your phone.
Most of the complaints you hear are unfortunately from people that really don't know what their doing or dont do the research before doing stuff and just dive in installing everything they can get there hands on, and then the end up complaining in the end, giving a phone a bad rap.
Just my 2 "Sense".
fhaines