Since upgrading my TD2 to the official WM6.5 ROM issued by HTC I have had problems with the handset freezing; the only remedy has been to remove the battery and switch back on. At first I thought it was a hardware fault but a friend's phone has also started doing the same since he upgraded. This never happened previously and only happens every ten days or so.
Has anyone else experienced similar problems?
I'm having the same problems mate. My TD2 on 6.5 freezes spoaradically - I'd say at least twice a week, and the only solution is to remove the battery.
I've been trying to link the freeze with a particular program or app but the phone has frozen at varying times and in many cases whilst no apps are running!
I'm waiting for upgrade on my contract as I've had it with this TD2 and especially WinMo. I mean, how can WinMo store all saved words in SMS on RAM only for it to be wiped after every restart/soft reset?! Why? Argh!
I'm going for the Hero next, and see how nice Android plays!
Good luck with your query...
Mo
miker1892 said:
Since upgrading my TD2 to the official WM6.5 ROM issued by HTC I have had problems with the handset freezing; the only remedy has been to remove the battery and switch back on. At first I thought it was a hardware fault but a friend's phone has also started doing the same since he upgraded. This never happened previously and only happens every ten days or so.
Has anyone else experienced similar problems?
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Does it do this without the mem card installed?
Exactly the same is happening here and the same on my friend's TD2. We have never tried WM 6.1, the first step after purchasing the phone was to upgrade to stock WM 6.5 ROM.
I tried to disable the weather animation on home screen but this doesn't help. My friend has disabled HTC sense and his phone has not frozen after one week. We will have to wait another week or two to proof that this could be the solution.
I hope that Touch Flo is not the cause of this malfunction because WM6.5 UI is very ugly.
I don’t know if the mem card could cause this issue but using the phone without mem card is simply not an option for me. The phone memory is too limited.
My friend also raises this issue on HTC support but so far HTC is ignoring the problem. The only bright word from HTC support was that they will investigate this issue (after many words on how to flash, reflash and hard reset ...).
I really hope that the solution for this very inconvenience will be find out soon.
My TD2 also freezes often compared to Win 6.1 where it almost never froze. I also hope that HTC will make some kind of service pack for Win 6.5 as it doesn't work that well at the moment.
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Does it do this without the mem card installed?
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Not tried it without the memory card, but I need the card for storage. Never froze prior to 6.5 upgrade.
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Not tried it without the memory card, but I need the card for storage. Never froze prior to 6.5 upgrade.
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I'm not suggesting that anyone uses the device without a mem card! You are missing my point.
Phones that freeze do so for a reason and it's necessary to eliminate possible causes.
Some two years ago I did extensive testing on this subject when the same issues arose around another make and model of phone.
One thing I found is that it is possible to induce instability of handsets when mem cards are used (abused?) in certain ways.
My TD2 used to freeze when I first got it and it has also done so with a number of cooked ROMs. With my current ROM it never freezes and there are no instability issues.
I strongly suspect poor coding of apps and lack of thorough beta testing. Isn't it strange how some apps have been around for years and you can rely on their worth?
Installing to mem card causes issues as well as cards that have installed apps being reused after cooked ROM flashing and previous settings and fat tables being left on the card.
Also when power is low mem cards draw large currents that the battery may not be able to give. They are very power hungry. I took this up with Sandisk Tech Dept and they politely told me that the info on current draw under stress (usage) was not for public access!
So my answer is keep your ROM light (no manila or after market 'front end'), minimise card usage by installing all you can to phone mem, reformat afresh with every ROM flash and keep your battery as highly charged as possible at all times.
Some say 'yes but I do all those things and I never get freezes'. That's fine but no help to those that do.
There really is only one way to find out and that is to take a little time and try it for yourself.
Large address book combined with bad 3rd party program
On my Tilt2 I found that applications like Fring could freeze the phone. After a few tries, I decided not intall that anymore (and Fring might have fixed it by now, but I can't afford to try, because uninstalling required a hard reset).
The phone originally came with HTC TouchFLO, but I switched that off, since it just made everything more difficult to reach. And sometimes the fhone became unresponsive, slow or totally frooze. After I disabled it by using the Windows Today (6.5 or classic) after which I only had about 2 freezes in 1.5 year.
Now I finally upgraded to the latest official ROM for the phone, which has HTC Sense on it. After everybody saying how great Sense was, I gave it a try. It worked reasonably, until I started playing with the Favorites in the Peoples tab. After each new addition (I tried 3) I had to restart the phone, and after restart it still hung up.
I happen to have a quite large address book that I synchronize with ActiveSync. I think I'm starting to see a pattern, where several applications - Fring, Sense, etc - just cannot handle large address books.
By the way, to disable Sense, first switch to the Windows Default (= WinMo 6.5) Today screen, and do a soft reset to get rid of Sense background processes. If you want to use the WinMo classic Today screen, then you can do that after the reset. Directly trying to move from Sense to WinMo classic resulted in another freeze. After disabling Sense, I haven't experienced a freeze, (yet !!!).
^^Try a custom rom,Sense works fine on those as the ROM is highly modified with few errors now.
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I've been a long term HTC fan, having had a Cingular 8125 for over a year. I just got a TyTN and immediately added a 2 G micro SD card and then loaded that up with software: uBook, NewsGator Go for blogs, Egress for podcasts, SBSH Weather, and MortPlayer. It was very unstable, freezing about half a dozen times a day. Doing a little research, I found that the presence of a micro SD card was implicated in freezing. Freezing is where the phone part of the TyTN continues to work (green light continues to blink), but the Windows part is locked up. I've removed the weather and Egress items from the Today screen, and so far that's reduced the freezes to once a day.
I would like the Hermes to be as reliable as the wizard which went weeks without me resetting it. I'm currently on ROM 1.18.255.3. Is moving to a new ROM version likely to fix this freezing problem? Are there people out there using a 2 G micro SD without a freezing problem? I understand there's a new ROM due out at the end of January, should I hold off till that comes out?
I mean to add that I have a HT636 serial number in case it is hardware related.
Aha! evidence indicates micro card
By removing various software from the today screen, there was no reason for any software to look at the micro card. The phone had not crashed, and yet the file manager showed that the micro card was not present.
But this stinks, I got the phone so it would hold a gigabyte of stuff, mostly podcasts.
At least can feel confident in the problem. Any chance it could the SANS micro SD card?
Not sure why your file explorer is saying there is no micro-sd card.
I use the same card as you and do not have as many hangs as you.
Some things to be aware of.
Best practice suggests putting in main memory anything that is used on the today screen or by phone application. In other words anything the device would need on coming out of sleep mode is best placed in Main memory.
Everything else can be placed on the SD card.
If you do not use push email you should carefully apply the "fake server" trick
You probably are, but you must use a task manager (say magic button or the like) to properly shut down applications.
I personally steer clear of today plugins that automatically connect to the net for data - e.g. weather/traffic/news type programmes.
Mike
Thank you for your ideas.
I guess I was spoiled by the 8125. Perhaps that it uses the regular SD instead of the micro-SD is the reason. All my apps on the 8125 were on the storage card, and I didn't force applications to quit.
I guess I just need to accept that the TyTN is more touchy about the card and try working around it.
Thanks for the feedback.
I did the same as you, added a 2 gig card from the start. I have journal bar running for weather and news, loaded in main memory, everything else is on the micro SD card. I had the same lockups as you are seeing but it's not the microSD in my case.
I found that the phone "wakes" often for calls, notifications etc. while in it's holster. When it wakes all keys are "unlocked" and subject to getting pressed. From this forum, I applied all the patches and tweakes like Auto-lock on power up, PTT button re-mapping, and many registery tweaks for bluetooth accys.
Mine almost never hangs now. The main culprit now seems to be when connecting/disconnecting it to a charger sometimes turns off bluetooth or hangs the unit, but it's intermittent.
Overall I'me very happy now, till "Kaiser" comes out...
Thank you for the info. I'm going to move the sensitive applications to the main memory. Do you think the ROM version could be contributing to the failures? I have 1.18 and I believe there is an official 1.35 out that is later.
Thanks
Another Way to Speed Up your Hermes
This Might Help You Making Performance of your Hermes Better
WM5_Tweaks_Performance
Espacially by:
Enable FileSystem cache
Increase FileSystem cache
Increase FileSystem filter cache
NOTE: These Tweaks Helped Me ALOT.....
Thanks for the ideas about tweaks. I'm going to see how stable I can make it before applying any of them.
applied all of them and it does seem significantly faster now.
I'd definitely recommend the ROM upgrade, I have never experienced the silly lock ups that I used to since.
I just experienced my first freeze on my Vario II (UK).
I got the phone on saturday, and used it for the first time as an alarm clock yesterday and everything was great (sunday I forgot to turn it off silent - boo that you have to remember).
This morning my alarm didn't go off, when I woke up the phone had frozen and wouldn't display anything - but the light was still flashing. I haven't got a MicroSD yet.
Would I have the latest ROM as I have only just got the phone? If not, how do I upgrade or find out what version of the ROM I have?
i am on the std rom released by imate in australia 2.3 i think. i have used many including xdaII and the universal.
the current hermes is the most reliable, most stable, and most amount of uptime with the best battery life, so overall i am very happy.
by the same token, i have been here long enough to know exactly what needs to happen to totally rebuild these devices from the basic rom to a device that works efficiently.
it is vital that you apply all things that are required or used during the initial startup, including things in the startup directory, and on the today screen to be present in main memory.
i have also found that icons on today or in start menu that are loaded on an sd card can slow the device down.
having memory readers on the today screen, reading the SD card memory isnt good either.
using and going through a lot of the registry hacks are useful, but not necesarily for the speed, hangs, but for functionality.
also, custom applications that are installed on the sd card i move out of the program directory to a sub directory called custom apps. this is simply to ease the speed of opening, and when i open custom, i accept a minor second or two delay rather than immediate.
i did have (not recently) have problems with the system loosing the sd card directory, which a soft reboot fixes. which is all the more importance of hiding the icons and applications from day to day interaction that use the SD card.
you can also look at reformatting the card.
i also did find that doing a full back (SPB) and doing a restore speeded up the device noticably.
there may also be speed issues if you dont synchronise regularly, and the notifications queue on previous devices also caused problem, but havent found much here.
doing other simple stuff like error reporting, disabling bluetooth auto beam is also a good start.
using ring tones or themes that are on the sd card are also not as reliable than locating in immediate ram.
so rule of thumb, you need to be able to boot up and use your device completely independently of your SD card, and only access the storage card for apps that you call for, and for data that isnt needed immediately on boot up, to store songs, files, documents and related types.
hope it helps. but in answer to your question, if you can get a more updated rom, you will definitely get a benefit, but quantifying the benefit is hard. new roms are released for a reason, so consider them seriously.
that said, if you dont need to wait for a supported rom rather than crossing platforms, this is always difficult and should only be done with extensive knowledge. as such, i dont have that many problems i cant overcome, and so am waiting for the official imate rom to be released....
hope it helps with some ideas and areas to consider
S.
ben2004uk; have a read of the wiki, it's all there should you wish to upgrade. It is fairly simple.
Freeze's gone
Ok, I feel a lot better. I've moved the one critical today add-in (weather) to main memory. I've only occassionally accessed the external storage. But with that configuration I now was able to go about 5 days without a freeze!
So I conclude that the storage card is not waking up quick enough or something like that. Other people have said it, but don't put any "always running" or "today related" software on the storage card.
I'm still on 1.18 ROMs, but I think I'll hold off for a while before upgrading. I just don't feel like rebuilding the machine right now.
how to determine ROM versions.
ben2004uk said:
I just experienced my first freeze on my Vario II (UK).
I got the phone on saturday, and used it for the first time as an alarm clock yesterday and everything was great (sunday I forgot to turn it off silent - boo that you have to remember).
This morning my alarm didn't go off, when I woke up the phone had frozen and wouldn't display anything - but the light was still flashing. I haven't got a MicroSD yet.
Would I have the latest ROM as I have only just got the phone? If not, how do I upgrade or find out what version of the ROM I have?
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It took me the longest time to find this as the wiki did not address it. go the start menu, then settings. Then click on the system tab at the bottom. Select the Device Information control panel. Now go to the TyTN wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
and review your options. At Feb 1, 2007, 1.35 appears to be the latest official one.
Hi.
I have to soft reset my HD2 all the time because it often lags too much.
I will now list the things which makes me wanna reset my device:
- The HD2 lags so badly, that most actions take up to 5 seconds.
- One application can crash (mostly HTC_Messaging), and I have to soft reset.
- When I write messages, the keyboard has a input lag of 5-10 seconds.
- Screen wont turn on when I push the buttons
- The device wont unlock when I slide the slider, it just stops up.
Now this happens each time I upgrade my ROM, and I am currently using Artemis now.
The programs I've installed each time is:
- FingerKeyboard
- Touch X reset and wifi
- Touch X button icon in messaging
and now I use WMLongLife also.
My SD-card is an 8GB card.
So if someone could help me, I would be happy.
(Sorry for bad english.)
try installing the cleanRAM app
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try installing the cleanRAM app
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Doens't help either, ends up with the program crashing when its at the end and I try to klikk "OK!"
have you try to reinstall factory setting or hard reset
henninghh990 said:
Doens't help either, ends up with the program crashing when its at the end and I try to klikk "OK!"
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Start again. Install nothing and just configure settings.
Does it run slow and crash then?
If so you have problem that could be harware.
Try another ROM and if the same then I think you need to return the unit.
If all runs fine on a clean, vanilla phone then you are doing something in the install process that is causing the instability.
Try installs one by one to the phone mem and check operation each time.
NB. Some background info would have been helpful. ROM version, Model etc!
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Start again. Install nothing and just configure settings.
Does it run slow and crash then?
If so you have problem that could be harware.
Try another ROM and if the same then I think you need to return the unit.
If all runs fine on a clean, vanilla phone then you are doing something in the install process that is causing the instability.
Try installs one by one to the phone mem and check operation each time.
NB. Some background info would have been helpful. ROM version, Model etc!
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The problem is that I can't predict when its gonna happen. It can happen randomly, and then I have to restart the phone. After the restart, everything works normal and perfect.
This can happen upto three times a day, some days it wont happen at all.
Currently using 2.10.531.7 Artemis, but this also happens with the stock ROM. The newest one that is. My radio version is 2.06.51.07
Its kinda difficult to run things vanilla phone, cause the applications I use, I need.
for me htc messaging has never crashed...
i suggest you to flash a stock rom, 1.66 for example and try it without the sent button.
if there are still problems, u can try using mtty or send it back for repair...
edit: i had the problem where the phone was freezing while loading for a long time (over night), and the display won´t turn on. Switched back to manually update Facebook, Twitter and Weather, and had no more problems since...
Bimme said:
for me htc messaging has never crashed...
i suggest you to flash a stock rom, 1.66 for example and try it without the sent button.
if there are still problems, u can try using mtty or send it back for repair...
edit: i had the problem where the phone was freezing while loading for a long time (over night), and the display won´t turn on. Switched back to manually update Facebook, Twitter and Weather, and had no more problems since...
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Well I think its crashing.
That's what I usually use when I lock the screen. So sometimes when I try to unlock it, I just get half of the messaging program or nothing, on screen. And I cant do anything.
When I try to click the Home-button, it respons in some seconds and Home-screen is all laggy.
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Well I think its crashing.
That's what I usually use when I lock the screen. So sometimes when I try to unlock it, I just get half of the messaging program or nothing, on screen. And I cant do anything.
When I try to click the Home-button, it respons in some seconds and Home-screen is all laggy.
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When you lock the phone apps still run in the back ground as if asleep and when you unlock they attempt to restore themselves as they were before the lock.
You have something clashing installed and that is calling the registry at the same time as something else. Remember when windows full size used to do it?.
I think you have a badly written piece of software installed (either preloaded or installed by yourself) and suggesting starting from vanilla is a way to issolate it!
i've also had similar problems as you. after hard reseting a couple of times, i noticed that the intermittent lag began after i started syncing my phone to my PC and myphone. it turns out that my terrible management of appointments, messages and contacts was the root of my problem (several duplicates of everything, and almost 5000 text messages). i suggest you attempt to work your phone a couple days without loading up any PIM information, archive messages and remove duplicates (sktools is excellent at doing this)
i suggest you do something similar, it really helps. i was able to get my device to prrform as well as when i still had the vanilla ROM
best of luck! your device is better than you think!
Also, use the Task Manager, and close applications that you don't use, especially the Internet browser and applications that use data connection. These ones can really block the phone when connection is intermittent.
Yet again, I'm left dumbfounded by claims of "serious" issues with this device. I just don't understand how almost everyone has a "story" regarding the HTC HD2 being SLOW or LAGGY. Fortunately for me, I haven't soft reset my unit in 46h 5m 19s and everything is still running flawlessly.
your phone sounds faulty or something. for me.. even with the Stock 1.66 ROM i had, it was working pretty fast n smooth. now with Dutty's ROM, its faster n smoother than ever. i love this beast
I never have these problem! I used Official or Clean EX HQ roms and never got these problem!
Try a Task 29 and flash with 1.66 Official or Most popular Cook ROM
Pa49: I have only installed the programs which I have listed in the first post. I guess im not the only one using them.
Kev007: I usually have a lot of textmessages when I dont delet them, but thats max 2000. I dont sync my phone with my computer, so no uneccessary contacts or something either. Dont even use calendar, so have no appointments.
Reignzone: It is really bad. It can happen upto three times a day, and I just cant use the phone at all. Just sliding the home-screen to see all my shortcuts takes maybe 10 seconds. I could film it with a camcorder next time it happens so people could see.
The same thing happens each time I've installed a ROM. So it has clearly something to do with the phone and not with the software I've installed.
Pa49: I have only installed the programs which I have listed in the first post. I guess im not the only one using them.
Kev007: I usually have a lot of textmessages when I dont delet them, but thats max 2000. I dont sync my phone with my computer, so no uneccessary contacts or something either. Dont even use calendar, so have no appointments.
Reignzone: It is really bad. It can happen upto three times a day, and I just cant use the phone at all. Just sliding the home-screen to see all my shortcuts takes maybe 10 seconds. I could film it with a camcorder next time it happens so people could see.
The same thing happens each time I've installed a ROM. So it has clearly something to do with the phone and not with the software I've installed.
I get lags too when twitter is updating in the background. You would think a 1ghz processor could do two things at once
Backup your miscrosd. Try a microsd format. Restore your data. See if this helps.
T-Mo US HD2, still completely stock. I was having some issues with sluggish animations, applied many of the tweaks in the sticky threads here, things got better. However, it was super super slow to switch into some applications (SMS *always*, others occasionally).
Eventually I wondered about that fancy Swype keyboard and tried switching back to the full qwerty. All that disappeared and it moves like lightning now, I have to say.
I haven't played with updating Swype or maybe at least loading a ROM without it that I can do a regular install on top of. However, right now I don't miss it .
Lag issues
I have no idea what is causing your issues, but if it travels from one rom to the next, it may be your sd card.
I had an issue with lag in swype and other apps.
I noticed when I popped out the sd card the device instantly unfroze.
I then copied all files except App data and reformatted the sd.
No issues after that.
Hope this helps.
While WP7 appears to be a major upgrade for HD2 from the entertainment point of view (720p recording alone is worth the trouble), for the professional user it's a step back, unfortunately, so I am not in a hurry to give up Windows Mobile It has nothing to do with the amazing work done by DFT and others, but with WP7 itself.
Copy and paste is not used that often, but at times could be vital for heavy e-mail and Office users. But at least Microsoft is working on that. Much more important is the lack of internet tethering support - a hugely underestimated feature. With original HD2 and an app like Wi-Fi Router I have a hotspot with me anywhere at any time, but with WP7 Microsoft is totally against it, possibly under pressure from the carriers.
Lack of file manager that we are used to seeing is an annoyance, but not a game changer. I am also not convinced the WP7 keyboard is nearly as good as the original HD2 one, and the apparent lack of foreign language keyboard support is also a concern.
Frankly, I am surprised not many people raise these issues, with Windows Mobile being, in my opinion, the best platform for business user, giving us a PC-like experience. But the trend appears to be dumbing down the smartphones (meaning heavy bias towards entertainment) to get the all-important market share. My hope is that Microsoft develops a special business-user version of WP7with all those issues covered.
In the meantime I would greatly appreciate an effort by developers to solve at least one of these problems - INTERNET TETHERING, either by Wi-Fi or USB. The solutions I've seen so far don't appear to be workable, but we are grateful for all your efforts.
And, finally, one question that is probably easy to answer. Is it possible, after trying out WP7 on HD2, to go back to the original ROM (T-Mobile USA)? If yes, can someone please point me to the clear directions on that?
Thank you!
how many people use phone? how many business man use phone? how many business man use phone really as a PDA? you get the point?
Don't forget, it's M$...
I'm sure I saw tethering on a MS to do list and get the impression it's less about being unwilling to do it an more about being unable, for now.
File Manager - there is one, TouchXplorer. More relevant is the difficulty in getting files on there - it can be done, but it's a faff.
I wouldn't argue that WP7 is more aimed at those who feel the need to share every sentient thought with 'friends' they don't even know on FacePage or Twaddle, but the Office tools are actually very good and with SkyDrive integration there are potentially some very useful ways of working.
The keyboard? Don'y like it especially but it's not much worse than the original. Having a Swype variant would be far better.
One thing not mentioned is the fact that WP7 is more stable and performs better than WM6.5.5.
There are a bunch of threads around on backing out WP7, a search should find something quite quickly but it's pretty straightforward.
Thanks a lot, Gustopher, for a detailed response! Good points.
bussinesmen always carry a notebook with them for heavy documents editing.
bussinesmen should have a corporate laptop with corporate 3g/umts dongle.
Real bussinesmen should have an assistent to do all their work.
However, the email client on WP7 is the best of all other platforms. Real full support for multiple folder syncing. Reading email is like reading a letter on a paper because of the clean and neat look. Just too bad it doesn't shows HTML.
There is always room for improvement and it'll get all the features eventually.
Actually most probs including Tethering can be solved with hacks or workarounds. For me the biggest annoyance is that mail forwarding was left out for some unknown reason. I forward a lot of mails from my phone and this really sucks big time
Also Office Mobile is less functional than it used to be on WM 6.5. Where is find and replace
To be candid i love the keyboard and the smoothness of the system but everything else is half done. How i wish i could just combine the features of different os. If i could then I'll combine the functionality of winsmob 6.5 with the keyboard and smoothness of wp7 and then take the apps from android. Thats would be the almost perfect os of all times. But hey i guess i'm just a dreamer.
Thanks for your responses. Hyellow, nowadays when they say "business user" (or "business traveler", etc), in America, they don't actually mean important businessmen, just people who use something for work - I guess I should've been more specific. Sometimes I carry a notebook, sometimes not, and I often need to receive and/or send emails with attached Word documents at different times of day and night. And I didn't even need a dongle with a great Wi-Fi sharing tool that I could also use to share internet with others.
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Actually most probs including Tethering can be solved with hacks or workarounds. For me the biggest annoyance is that mail forwarding was left out for some unknown reason. I forward a lot of mails from my phone and this really sucks big time
Also Office Mobile is less functional than it used to be on WM 6.5. Where is find and replace
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You can forward mails... Just tap on reply, and it will ask if you want to reply or just forward...
Barmalei said:
And, finally, one question that is probably easy to answer. Is it possible, after trying out WP7 on HD2, to go back to the original ROM (T-Mobile USA)? If yes, can someone please point me to the clear directions on that?
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It's actually mentioned in the first post of the LEO70 ROM thread. Basically, to return to WM6.5, you just flash a ROM as you would normally do.
If you want to return to a TMOUS stock ROM, this would be how:
1) Get the stock ROM you want to flash
2) Shut down your HD2
3) Switch on your HD2 while holding the volume down key to enter bootloader
4) [Optional] Clean up NAND using task29
5) Flash your stock ROM, 2 options:
a) To remove HSPL, flash from MicroSD card
b) To keep HSPL, flash over USB using ROM Update Utility (RUU)
If you choose to remove HSPL, be careful to use an original ROM for your region/provider.
Barmalei said:
While WP7 appears to be a major upgrade ... the clear directions on that?
Thank you!
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I second this. Thats why im running android gingerbread. It is not perfect, but close. The main thing i am missing in andriod is a good office package. In wp7 it mainly designed for multimedia purpose..
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
kristofpetho said:
You can forward mails... Just tap on reply, and it will ask if you want to reply or just forward...
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OMG You really saved my day Never thought that forwarding will be bundled with reply
Thanks a lot for detailed instructions, meptik! I haven't flashed a ROM for a long time, so this is extremely helpful.
I also wonder if anyone knows an answer to this question:
If I take a stock U.S. T-Mobile-locked HD2 and run WP7 on it, does the phone become UNLOCKED so it can be used on any GSM carrier, including major European networks?
Solution for problems with SD cards and/or random reboots
Many people are experiencing problems with SD cards and/or random reboots, and I think I solved mine (I am rather a newbie), so here is my report.
Few days ago I installed WP7 (thanks a lot, DFT guys) on my U.S. T-mobile HD2 with its original 16 GB class 2 micro SD card, using radio 2.10.50.08.2.
Installation went very well, the phone worked very smoothly and very fast, except it started freezing and randomly rebooting. Hard resets didn't help. Then I removed SD card and reset the phone - it worked very well and fast and did not have any reboots.
I tried reformatting the SD card to Fat32 (using free software SDformatter - it fully clears the card after WP7 use and removes partitions, make sure you put Format Size Adjustment "ON" in Options) and reset the phone with the card. It did not help, the reboots were the same as before.
So I decided that the 16 GB card wasn't good for WP7 and bought a PNY 4 GB class 4 card for $10 at Staples. I reset the phone with this new card inside. At first everything worked very slowly, but at least the reboots completely disappeared. In few hours everything became fast, except for certain things, like it would take 15-30 seconds for the camera to reset after shooting a 1 min video.
Finally, I decided to try something else. I reflashed radio to 2.15.50.14 with the original 16 GB card (reformatted again), and everything seems to work very well -it's fast, and there has been no reboots so far in few hours. The battery also seems to drain with a normal pace.
Hello all,
I have tried searching this forum and have found various similar threads but none quite the same.
I used to use the gps on my hd2 quite a lot, both in windows mobile running copilot, and in android with google maps. But recently, I can no longer use it. If i open google maps or navigation i will get anywhere between 2 seconds and 2 minutes and then the phone will freeze completely, even if i dont use anything just having the program running is enough. I installed gvSIG mini maps and that does not work well either, it either freezes or simply never returns any search results.
The thing that is making me feel it is possibly hardware related is that it worked perfectly for a long time, the phone is about 18 months old now. I have tried various roms (the one i am using just now is Android 2.3.4 - HyperDroid-CM7-v2.1.0-HeadyHoneybadger) and it makes no difference; with the exception of the gps/maps the phone is very stable and I am perfectly happy with it. I have tried using setcpu to lower the processor speed in case this was being caused by heat, but no difference. I am considernig reinstalling a Windows Mobile build and testing the gps from there.
Any thoughts?
Regards
Stuart
quite probably just an android issue, go back to winmo6.5 and see if it does it then, if it does hardware if it doesnt you know its android
I would agree with what Richy99 said to go back to Windows 6.5 and check. I am currently on the same Pongster build you are on and do not experience any freezing of the phone you describe. In fact, I am using an optimized gps.conf file for my area and get locks in 2-20 seconds from a cold start now and used the gps navigation for hours while traveling without issues. I suspect it is something hardware related.
Thanks for the responses.
So, I reinstalled Windows Mobile 6.5 downloaded from the HTC website. Clean install, opened google maps, seemed ok for a few minutes, then i went into the menu and ticked 'Use GPS', then it worked maybe a minute and froze up completely and the phone restarted. tried this about half a dozen times got maximum a minute use each time.
Given that the phone is always pretty stable except when trying to use gps/maps, I would guess that the hardware fault lies in that part of the phone. How long as HTC warranties? The phone is 16 months old now so it doesnt look good but never mine
Will contact HTC on the off chance anyway!
Cheers
Stuart
Small update, contacted O2 and they gave me a freepost address to send it back to for repair (a company called A NOVO i think it was), about a week later I got it back, they enclosed a letter saying that they have replaced the main circuit board inside the phone. So, same old case, scratches and all, but its like a new phone, new IMEI number and everything, normal service resumed! Full marks to O2 customer service and the repair company.
Richy99 said:
quite probably just an android issue, go back to winmo6.5 and see if it does it then, if it does hardware if it doesnt you know its android
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prob 70-80% of HD2 Android users getting this freeze problem.
this is reply i just sent to another thread....:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088693&page=3
Well, I been having the freeze issues with namd forever, with every build, every sd card etc....especially if i turn gps or data on or both.
So, for last 36 hours, i thought i'd do a lil simple test.
Downloaded win mobile stock ROM......36 hours stressing the heck outta my phone, toggling everything on and off etc. guess what...NO FREEZE.
So, in my opinion, 100% NOT hardware, definitely Android hd2 related.
Matt
Hi, I was bummed when my HD2 running Energy Rom 6.5 Titanium was beginning to freeze on me and it kept progressively getting worse and worse for a month. It got to a point where it became unuseable as it froze every 2 minutes and even my Android SD MIUI Rom could not even load in half the time and when it did it just froze after a few seconds. I thought my hardware was failing me and was contemplating either sending it in with my warranty or just getting a new phone completely.
BUT....I have since taken the sim card out as I can't use the phone and put it into my HTC BLUE ANGEL (God bless it, still chugging along nicely after 8 YEARS!!!!) and I notice my HD2 all of the sudden running smoothly! Its been running smoothly and fast for the last 72 hours on 6.5. I just loaded up my Android SD with no problems at all! Has anyone ever heard of a sim card causing the same problem symptoms as failing hardware? I HOPE this is the case as I'm trying to find anybody else that can shed a light on this. I love my HD2 and hope its not dying!
P.S. I put the sim card back in and noticed a slight slow down and a few instances of unresponsiveness but no freeze yet. My sim card is about 4-5 years old.
P.S. 2 - My phone finally froze after watching a 5 minute youtube clip in Android. Cant discern whether it is phone hardware related or app related or even Rom related as my Android always freezes atleast 1-2 times a day every since I had an Android SD Rom.
yes, sim cards fail / get old and can cause issues, non booting, random hard resets, gl;itchy screens, all kinds of things. phone your operator and ask for a new one.
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yes, sim cards fail / get old and can cause issues, non booting, random hard resets, gl;itchy screens, all kinds of things. phone your operator and ask for a new one.
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Thats what I like to hear. I think my HD2 is not messed up after all. About 80 hours on Winmo no freezes w/o sim card and only one freeze on Android SD in 8 hours. Thanks!