I have a problem with my tytn and messages.
I have a messages in my messagesbox, not much. I deleted some of those messages and do a soft reset at my phone. When i open messagebox again, all those deleted messages are back. I look what´s the problem and i discovered that all my messages witch i had received after 15.2.2007 will all missing and before 15.2 received messages will return to my messagebox, even that i permanetly deleted all those messages. So, it´s look like my messagebox gets somewhere "message-backup" wich has been taken 15.2.2007.
I did a hard reset and try if the problem will disappear. First that works fine, my messagebox worked as it´s use to work, but now it´s doing all the same things as before. Except now when i do a softreset, all my messages is disappeared.
Sorry my bad english, hope you understand what i´m writing about.
I can only think it works this way, when you do a soft reset it is like pressing the reset button on your pc?! so if Messaging is running when you reset you lose ALL unsaved changes. If you leave outlook alone for a bit the changes take effect (deleting and recieving messages?!)
What u need to do next time before u soft reset your device is turn off ur phone and wait for about 15 to 20 seconds so the mem will be written to ur phone rom. See if it helps.
Now i turn off the power and wait couple minutes and switch power on. All messages was still in my messagebox. Now, when i do a softreset, my messagebox will be same, as it was after i switch thge power off. So, it´s like making a "message backup" when i turn the power off and on. When i do softreset, my messaqgebox will return as same as it was after last power off/power on. So, what´s the problem`Do i have to bring my phone to serviceguys?
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i am getting TONS of 'alarm4' notification sounds coming out of soft reset (and now like all the time). almost everything in notifications is unchecked (except phone and emai messages). and nothing is set for 'alarm4'. when these notifications go off, there's nothing happening when they happen!
i feel like it's hard reset reload time. but i don't wanna do it again.... (but i have this whole westtek bluetooth printer problems to deal with....)
if i turn off all alarms/programs/notifications it doesn't happen. this is not a fix
You need to use a program like SK Tools to look at your notification lists and delete ONLY the ones you think are suspect (ex notifications for a calendar event that is no longer present).
thanks i'll try that next time. today the i just lost it and had to hard reset it.
well, it started to do it again. and i got the SK tools and did a clean up, and a delete duplicate notifications. but it's still doing the sporadic notifications on soft reset. this time they go off randomly for up to 5 minutes after the soft reset! there are not displayed nofitications. and none with vibrate enabled, yet there they are!
MOST ANNOYING!
any more ideas?
scary bear notifications can help.
screwing with the notifications can generally screw up the device.
i tried, and failed, and simply hard reset it and started again.
i found it was caused more so when a notification had come up, and you either voluntarily, or involuntarily had to soft reset the device.
but there is no conclusive evidence of this. just my input.
next day: i had to hard reset the device. it became totally unstable. i was getting 'unknown usb device' and 'battery low for PC card messages' (thought i turned that off). oh well, at least i keep good backups.
First off, I haven't found this on a search
Surely I and my wife cannot be the only people to suffer the loss of text messages received but not opened if the battery goes flat?
To confirm, we get an SMS (or an email) and without opening it reset the machine (say if it locks up) or the battery goes flat and on charging it resets automatically, when reloaded the SMS (or email has gone).
Emails are fine, still on the server so downloadable again; SMS gone forever!
Known 'feature', problem solved years ago or I am a numpty?
I have encountered the same problem several times with different ROMs(WM5, WM6). Can this get fixed?
renhui said:
I have encountered the same problem several times with different ROMs(WM5, WM6). Can this get fixed?
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I don't think this is a ROM issue, more a device bug.
That said, anything that can force the device to save all messages received, not just those that have been read would be most welcome!
I think it has been explained somewhere by someone and also maybe me.
Basically, to ensure that your messages (read or unread) is saved, at least press the power button (if the set is not hang) to bring it to power off, afterwhich you can do anything including reset.
If already hang after received message before you can press power button, too bad, it will never come back.
It is not really a bug, there is a technical explaination behind this, but too long to explain.
The technical explanation is simply: "Caching!".
The system caches data in RAM and writes it down to Flash every once in a while - or upon power off.
So if you reset while the data (i.e. your unread SMS in this case) is still in RAM, it will be lost.
Cheers,
-mARKUS
mbirth said:
The technical explanation is simply: "Caching!".
The system caches data in RAM and writes it down to Flash every once in a while - or upon power off.
So if you reset while the data (i.e. your unread SMS in this case) is still in RAM, it will be lost.
Cheers,
-mARKUS
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So, is there a way to force the device to write down to flash whenever it receives a message?
Qmail used to save emails when they were received (I used it before I overcame the issues from using pop Gmail), but I would rather force messaging to save messages than use a third party message reader.
mbirth said:
The technical explanation is simply: "Caching!".
The system caches data in RAM and writes it down to Flash every once in a while - or upon power off.
So if you reset while the data (i.e. your unread SMS in this case) is still in RAM, it will be lost.
Cheers,
-mARKUS
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Right on ! ! !
Writing to Flash is part of the Pesistent Memory concept in WM5, in which when it is restore upon reset from the Flash and not the RAM (which is cleared upon reset). While WM2003SE is not the case.
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Very simple! Just wait for about 10 sec upon receiving your SMS before resetting
What seems to have worked for me when it happens, is taking the battery out instead of soft resetting. The message is saved when I reinsert the battery and power up.
Not sure how safe that is though...
FOSA said:
Very simple! Just wait for about 10 sec upon receiving your SMS before resetting
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Quite! (Well actually not at all)
Just that doesn't work if you leave your XDA and the battery goes flat before you read it or the whole thing locks up and you need to reset....
snipes mcgee said:
What seems to have worked for me when it happens, is taking the battery out instead of soft resetting. The message is saved when I reinsert the battery and power up.
Not sure how safe that is though...
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Worth a try I suppose, thanks.
A few months ago, I upgraded from a Magician to a Prophet.
About a week after use, the prophet started to develop some problems. The SIM card reader stopped reading any SIM cards, and settings would not save at random.
The issue with the settings not saving was, say, I would receive an SMS, read it, check that it was marked as read, soft reset, and the SMS would either be marked as unread, or simply not be present on the phone at all. I would change the time and the timezone, double check and confirm the change, the change in time would save, but the timezone would not. I'd make a registry change, close the registry editor, recheck the value, confirm the change, soft reset, and the change would not get saved. I'd open File Explorer, check the recent apps, confirm that File Explorer was there, soft reset, and File Explorer would not be present within the recent apps after the soft reset.
Concerning this issue, the longer you left the phone after making the change, the more likely the change would save. But this would still not save everything. I'd receive a meeting reminder, dismiss it, then several hours later I'd soft reset and I'd be reminded again.
Of course, this issue persists through a hard reset.
I've sent the phone back to the warranty repairers three times, each time with a clear description of the above. Each time they send it back saying "No fault found", to which I can immediately replicate the fault upon return.
This time, when I received the phone back, they, once again, said they couldn't replicate the issue. But this time they decided to mention that I needed to wait 30 seconds to "ensure settings get saved".
What a load of bull****. My Magician does not have this issue. But I don't have any Windows Mobile 5 devices to test this on. Can I have some people confirm that you don't need to wait 30 seconds on Windows Mobile 5 devices to ensure settings save?
For a phone user, you certainlly needs a lot of soft reset. Yes, WM5 has a delayed write process, many already know this. As for the SMS and reminder, it is unlikely that people will be soft reseting it after dismissing a reminder. Anyway, the way to solve it (without waiting for 30 sec), is to switch your phone on and off, the stuff should stick.
Yes, what a lot of bull**** that a Magician does not have this issue, but that's an apple and a orange. Try removing the battery of a Magician, you will have to hardreset the phoen again and all the stuff gone, WM5's wont. Long story short, because of the persistant memory's limited read/write cycle, WM5 decided to do that. Google for more info.
Sometimes, I've 2 problems at the same time:
1-st i can't send sms. Tapping the SEND, but there is no reaction, it just stays doing anything.
2-nd i Phone tab in Settings>Personal doesn't open. I am tapping on Phone tab and there is no reaction, it just stays doing anything.
I think that this 2 problem linked with each other. They both appear and then disappear at the same time.
Once i turned on the flight mode from Commanager. Then i tapped the Phone tab from Settings>Personal, there was a notification that the phone is cuurrently off and if would i like to turn it off. I tapped YES. after device turned on, both problems ad gone.
Can somebody help me to remove this problems completely?
First, try hard reset. Don't forget to backup all your data from internal memory, contacts, calendar etc. because you'll loose it after hard reset.
If it doesn't works, try another Radio ROM.
gronostaj said:
First, try hard reset. Don't forget to backup all your data from internal memory, contacts, calendar etc. because you'll loose it after hard reset.
If it doesn't works, try another Radio ROM.
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I've flashed it several times with ONYX by dsixda. The radio ROM version is now 03.21.90. It's the latest version.
Hi guys,
not sure if any one of you have this problem? My set will auto reboot if my incoming sms is not read and when the vibrate in new incoming sms is set.
Did a full hard reset to reload rom, still there. Tested on a newly reload rom, still suck big time. But i do enjoy hard resetting and loading diffferent boot-loader to the phone.
Enjoyed this phone except for this crazy issue.
Going to get SE to replace the set. Hope it goes away.
bigwhizkid3 said:
Hi guys,
not sure if any one of you have this problem? My set will auto reboot if my incoming sms is not read and when the vibrate in new incoming sms is set.
Did a full hard reset to reload rom, still there. Tested on a newly reload rom, still suck big time. But i do enjoy hard resetting and loading diffferent boot-loader to the phone.
Enjoyed this phone except for this crazy issue.
Going to get SE to replace the set. Hope it goes away.
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well if this really is an issue, I doubt replacing the phone will help because it is most likely a bug in the firmware rather than the hardware itself..
why don't you try to fix the battery more firmly, so that the contacts to be made better. it may be the poor contact with the batter, so when your phone vibrates it restarts.
there's no way to be a soft error.
Got the new phone today. the issue so far is not happening.
The phone will vibrate then after awhile like 3-5 minutes then restart, or some time black out. When it balck out, you can heard a beep when you try the power button, then i will go dead till you take out the battery and restart.
The new phone definately feels much faster then the old one, even with all the same contacts and programs installed. So i believe it was a hardware problem. So far i did not see anyone with the same problem so i think it is a one off thing.