Hi
Using T-Mobile (UK) on the Stirling/Bannockburn transmitter...
Just changed to a Hermes from a Universal because I bought a umpc and no longer needed somet the size of the universal.
On the universal, I was seeing downloads of around 300Kbit/sec and uploads of about 100Kbit
On the Hermes with HSDPA enabled (I assume) I get downloads of between 700 and 1000Kbit/sec with uploads at 300Kbit/sec
Both the above measured with http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed/jisok=1
Pleased --> Yes indeed I am - a worthwhile speed increase
But
When I connect to the hermes via bluetooth from a laptop (using hermes as a modem), I am only seeing 300Kbit (both upstream and downstream). Both devices have bluetooth 2.0 (EDR).
On the universal I used to see the same speeds over bluetooth as on the device its-self (although I realise that my laptop speeds with the hermes exceed my universal speeds!)
Does HSDPA only work when the connection comes from the device its-self (rather than via bluetooth)??
Is there some kind of issue with bluetooth that slows things down? would USB prove to be faster?
The laptop has the option of fitting an HSDPA module, but I never went for this because it would also have meant paying for two contracts!
On the whole, I like the form factor of the hermes and dont really miss the keyboard/screen of the universal esp now I have a umpc.
Only critisism of the hermes would be that its not exactly production quality. Compared to my universal its very buggy. Guess thats just the products immaturity - its certaining no more buggy than my universal was on day 1.
Maybe HTC will eventually replace the universal - I got fed up with waiting and my old contract ended. The chap in the t-mobile shop showed me pics of t-mobiles forthcoming take on the HTC athena (think thats what its called - the one with the detatchable keyboard... but that's hardly a replacement for the universal.
Anyone had any experiences with using hermes on t-mobile (UK) over bluetooth as a modem from a laptop, please reply!
Nigel
veletron said:
When I connect to the hermes via bluetooth from a laptop (using hermes as a modem), I am only seeing 300Kbit (both upstream and downstream). Both devices have bluetooth 2.0 (EDR).
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i cant get over 350k using bluetooth to desktop either.
Tytn has bluetooth 2.0,but NO EDR, maybe that is y.
when i use USB to desktop, i can get around 550k.
Hi
Looking at the modems for both USB and Bluetooth, the baud rate appears to be 115,200. In ControlPanel-->Modems.
This is the baud-rate limit for the hardware
If you get up the properties for your dialup account, and look at the modem properties from there, then you can select ~900Kbit. Unfortunately this does not alter the hardware port restrictions.
Of course, the speeds we are seeing are better than is poss over 115,200 anyway...
I find the USB modem thing very hit and miss - it only works properly where there are no other modems present otherwise, if the dial-up account cannot find the usb com port it just changes it to something else.
Other problems I have with the hermes are that sometimes it refuses to connect from the laptop at all (requiring a soft reset). Hopefully a new rom will fix this - this problem did not exist on my trusty universal.
Nigel
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From another thread... i've just been told xdaII doesn't have Wi-fi as i first presumed.
Can someone suggest the best way to access the net through my home adsl router? Would bluetooth be my best bet?
Can you recommend specifically which equipment will work... since there are so many issues at the moment as to what works and what doesn't.
Thanks!!
Fais
put i-mate in usb cradle, hook up cradle to PC. i-mate uses PC's network connection.
Outside of that you'll either be springing for a usb/bt dongle (which I haven't seen any posts of anyone using) or a WiFi SD card. Can't think of any other options off the top of my head.
As you have mentioned earlier, you have already wired up your whole home with wif-, and presumably have a wi-fi access point.
The best route would thereofre be to add a wi-fi card to your xda2, such as the Socket Wireless LAN (WiFi) SD Card. This will give you better speeds than bluetooth, and you will not have to worry about profiles etc.
Just my 2c
Surur
I use a Belkin USB bluetooth dongle, and using the ActiveSync passthrough you can then browse the web on the XDA within the range of the dongle. You can get dongles with a 100m range, which should be plenty within a house.
Only trouble is, being ActiveSync, it it pot luck whether you can establish a link or not. Once you've established the link, it works quite well, though not flawlessly. It's also quite slow. Not as slow as GPRS, but not exactly snappy either. I don't know whether this is down to PIE, the bluetooth, or the ActiveSync. Most likely the latter.
Ideally, you'd use a bluetooth access point, but I'm not sure the XDA will work with that due to the absence of an appropriate protocol.
Thanks for the replies... I know what you mean onepieceman... activesync if driving me crazing
Wi-fi seems my best bet since usb seems to be incredibly slow at downlaoding a page.... thanks for the recommendations surur and graah.
don use WiFi at home! use BT
I've got both BT dongle and WiFi sdio setup at home.
The BT is actually to a notebook which is WiFi'd to my ADSL to inet...
The WiFi is faster, but:
1. the BT actually gave me better range! (I got the 100m one from Belkin)
2. the WiFi is a pig ( P I G ) on the battery.
3. the WiFi takes up my SD porn-movies slot
if you setup activesync to only do the sync MANUALLY (you have to
tell it both on the PC and on the XDA to sync manually) then
establishing BT pass-thru is much easier/faster
The internet is kinda slow on the XDA, I think probably because
MS's pocket IE is just bad. I don't think the TCP/IP works correctly
or that it opens enough connections in parallel to get the GIF's
and stuff. The network/BT/WiFi and the hardware (128Mb/400Mhz)
is much faster than what IE/Microsoft gives us.
But what do you expect from the 640Kb is enough company, that
did it again with 32 ****ing processes?!
There is also the option of XDA CF jacket
Re: don use WiFi at home! use BT
mgolanlan said:
The internet is kinda slow on the XDA, I think probably because
MS's pocket IE is just bad. I don't think the TCP/IP works correctly
or that it opens enough connections in parallel to get the GIF's
and stuff. The network/BT/WiFi and the hardware (128Mb/400Mhz)
is much faster than what IE/Microsoft gives us.
But what do you expect from the 640Kb is enough company, that
did it again with 32 ****ing processes?!
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thanks mgolanlan... does this mean the net speed is going to be on par with the usb speed? - usb was incredibly slow ... if so i may as well not bother with net access all together
usb1.1 is 12Mb /sec
if your ADSL is faster then that you are pretty lucky
Hi folks, need some help here!
Got a bluetake x-bridge bluetooth access point and want to use it to connect my jam to my PC and surf the net, synchronise etc.
I've connected it to my router via a network cable, but the device itself doesn't come with any drivers.
The connection settings are on the page below
http://www.bluetake.com/Manuals/BT300/BT300_QSG_EN.pdf
In the section marked console configuration, it talks about having a PC with Bluetooth function embedded in it, then talks about using a dongle to get the required drivers I guess. Does this mean I need to buy a dongle too?
Sorry for going on, but I'm a bit confused!!!!
It looks like a sort of standalone device. The only thing I can suggest is looking through the manual for the default IP it uses. You may be able to set it up through a web interface. The dongle is required for connecting to it, but you won't need to, because your PPC already has bluetooth.
Having said that, I really can't see why you bought a bluetooth access point which runs at less than 1Mbps, when for £20, you could have got a WiFi SDIO card, and connected at 11Mbps
The reason i bought it are
a) It was about £3 on ebay
b) I don't want to sacrifice storage space by having to use an SD wifi card
Thanks for your help anyway, but the pdf you looked at is the only manual i got!!
I'll persevere
LANP
AFAIK the Jam does not support the LANP profile for BT networking. This is certainly the case for the Qtek S100. Anybody know different?
My device ( see below ) is a Imate Jas Jar, the cable that connects has a mini usb to a normal usb connection for connection to PC ( with active sync).
I am soon to travel and the hotel rooms have broadband with the connection being a standard network cable. If I get a adapter for the normal usb to the standard network cable, will I get the INTERNET into my device.
Does my device have a network card like functionality on the end of the mini usb cable.
Please advise...
Never heard of that kind of rig,,, I travel with my O2 Exec and have always been able to hook up to my hotel highspeed via my wifi service in the O2.
Some hotels have USB connections at the hub for High speed so you should call the hotel and ask if they have a wifi hotspot or USB connection instead of the normal LAN cable connect.
The hotel that I am staying at have wifi in the lobby only.
No you can't. Your phone does not have USB host function on it. Get yourself a SD-WiFi
My god, whats SD Wifi ???
Or get yourself a wireless travel router, which is what I use. Works quite well for both the universal and laptops.
There are several models available, I show you this one (which I have) as an example:
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Sate...241008&pagename=Linksys/Common/VisitorWrapper
The wireless travel router is the best suggestion.
The Universal already has WiFi, so no idea why someone suggested an SD WiFi card.
Nothing that connects via USB will work as the Universal does not support USB Host mode.
Most wireless routers for connection to a cat5 socket cable or dsl modem will also work, the are just not as small and neat as a travel router.
question to BillB
I have the exact same configuration but i am unable to apply the TORNADO A2DP PATCH
Can u help me
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I bought a pair of Motorola HT820 headset and am unable to use em
It fails to pair with em and when it does it doesnt show any services on the HT820 tab.
So i effectively cant even use em for the headset profile
i am in a quandary as to what to do
I bought this abt 2 months ago
Any help from enlightened member in this forum will be highly regarded
Besides the above mentioned i do have gspocketMagic i did install spb and uninstalled as it made my system unstable.
I installed tweaks2net eval and uninstalled
Help
Regards
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Why would you think that anyone with tornado A2DP experence would be reading a post on network connections in the universal forum, you might try looking for answers here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=285
What I did in the past was setup my notebook as an access-point (sorta). Since my notebook could accept CAT5, and has WiFi, what I did was connect CAT5 to notebook, enable "Internet Connection Sharing" on the wifi. Create a P2P (adhoc) connection with Universal -- and voila, internet access for Universal via WiFi within the room.
almerchant said:
I have the exact same configuration but i am unable to apply the TORNADO A2DP PATCH
Can u help me
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I bought a pair of Motorola HT820 headset and am unable to use em
It fails to pair with em and when it does it doesnt show any services on the HT820 tab.
So i effectively cant even use em for the headset profile
i am in a quandary as to what to do
I bought this abt 2 months ago
Any help from enlightened member in this forum will be highly regarded
Besides the above mentioned i do have gspocketMagic i did install spb and uninstalled as it made my system unstable.
I installed tweaks2net eval and uninstalled
Help
Regards
[email protected]
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BTW, why don't you reflash your ROM with an AKU2.0 ROM so that you can have NATIVE A2DP support?
BTW, another vote for a travel router. It's pretty useless to look for a SD-based wired Ethernet card - I only know of CF-based ones. (And they suck too - they have REALLY bad power consumption)
My Question as i presumed it wud be was for BILLB
Hi
My question was addressed to BILLB and never meant for everyone in the forum, Gladly, we have nice minded people like you who have directed me to an available solution. Incidentally i upgraded my rom to AKU 3.2 and it supports A2DP Beautifully, but the sound is broken frequently, so am hunting at newwer grounds.
regards
AL
Thanx Minnesys...
I forgot to thank you for the direction..
The scenario, which prolly many of you recognize yourselves in, -
Everyday i have to carry around a laptop, to work, to gf, to sweet home etc etc.
The laptop has builtin bluetooth and plenty of Gbs to store music and video.
So, what i'd like to do is be able to browse my files on the laptop and stream all these superplenty musicfiles.
Since i'm already carrying around this big heavy blob of laptopness i might aswell use the files stored inside...
The thing is.. i can't.
Tytn won't (can't?) discover the networking service on my laptop.
Tho my home-pc has no problem discovering it and using it, thus i've successfully created a bluetooth network between home-pc and laptop.
I'm sure it's none of the computers fault since both can discovers each's service and tytn discovers neither ones networking service.
I'm thinking it might be that tytn (wm?) doesn't support networking service over bluetooth albeit that's a little weird.
Is there any way to enable/disble/view provided bluetooth services (in the tytn)?
Are there any settings/hacks/3rd pary software which allows me to do this?
Same problem w/ my Sony VAIO Picturebook w/ built-in Bluetooth version 1.0.
So, I purchased a USB Bluetooth 1.2 dongle and Jasjam was detected as modem/serial port. Maybe Jasjam BT not backwards compatible w/ old version of BT?
Guys, please RTFWiki.
WindowsMobile 5 with AKU lower then 3.0 does not have support for BT Networking profile.
I know that connection to the internet can be achieved via USB&ActiveSync or Wifi. But can the device be connect to the internet via normal Ethernet plug on my (non-wireless) router. Which adapters are required to do so? At home I do not have a wireless router so I am wondering if this is possible…
And, can auto charger for my Hermes (TyTN) be also used for Athena??
Thanks again
Uros
Buy a cheap wireless access point (with no router) and connect it to the port on your wired only router.
the phone may also connect to the internet via bluetooth
and yes i believe the charger from your hermes should work
Usb voltages are the same pretty much
Thanks. Would this device called "Macally 5-in-1 USB Combo Kit" allow this?
see -> http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=115169
Which Bluetooth device do you recommend?
Uros
cerk2006 said:
Thanks. Would this device called "Macally 5-in-1 USB Combo Kit" allow this?
see -> http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=115169
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No. That's just a bunch of connectors. It won't help your situation.
I still think Pyrofer's sollution is the best one (second post).
any bluetooth dongle should work
but ideally speaking if u can afford it go for the wireless access point it will cost a little more than a bluetooth but its well worth the extra 10-15 bucks
Guys, many thanks for your opinion. Any yes, am I aware the wireless solution is the best way to go.
Nonetheless I would like to stay "wired" for some time more. Reason is that I have two small kinds and we are leaving in a small apartment. I would like to prevent exposing them to any unnecessary "wireless" technologies as long as possible, at least now when they are growing up.
So, once again I am asking you: is there an adapter between Ethernet plug (RJ-45) and (mini) USB on the Athena and will eventually connection to the internet work?
There is NO wired adaptor for the Athena. The closest you can get is a USB lead and activesync, then use the PCs internet connection.
USB to Ethernet Adapter ???
Thanks all for your feedback!
What about this device: USB 2.0 to RJ-45 Ethernet Adapter
(http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?ID=42665&C=212&S=-1) in combinatin with 4 in 1 cable?? Could this work??
(Or http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HE-130R&cat=NET)
Does it come with A PocketPC driver? If not, no use.
If it doesnt say it comes with PPC drivers, i doubt it does.
You are right, Pyrofer, it doesn't support the PPCs
But maybe this one does: http://www.clarinetsys.com/en/product-ea104.htm,
I just need to check the price...
cerk2006 said:
You are right, Pyrofer, it doesn't support the PPCs
But maybe this one does: http://www.clarinetsys.com/en/product-ea104.htm,
I just need to check the price...
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On the web site, it says:
Supports PPC 2002/2003/2003SE, CE5/4.2/4.1 and Windows® Mobile 5.0 (coming soon)
I am not sure it means the driver for WM5 is coming soon.
cerk2006 said:
Nonetheless I would like to stay "wired" for some time more. Reason is that I have two small kinds and we are leaving in a small apartment. I would like to prevent exposing them to any unnecessary "wireless" technologies as long as possible, at least now when they are growing up.
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Ummm, you want to protect them from wireless radio waves? I take it you leave the phone in flight mode when in their presence, don't use Microwave ovens in your house, haven't got cordless phones e.t.c.? Sorry, don't want to bash your views, but there IS an awful lot of paranoia put out by the media and many people who jump on the bandwagon before establishing the facts.
As for sharing the internet, I know you can do it from PC->Ameo V easily with the included 'internet sharing' applet. I do it via BT, but USB works equally well.