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Easiest way of accessing the net via home adsl with xdaII?

From another thread... i've just been told xdaII doesn't have Wi-fi as i first presumed.
Can someone suggest the best way to access the net through my home adsl router? Would bluetooth be my best bet?
Can you recommend specifically which equipment will work... since there are so many issues at the moment as to what works and what doesn't.
Thanks!!
Fais

put i-mate in usb cradle, hook up cradle to PC. i-mate uses PC's network connection.
Outside of that you'll either be springing for a usb/bt dongle (which I haven't seen any posts of anyone using) or a WiFi SD card. Can't think of any other options off the top of my head.

As you have mentioned earlier, you have already wired up your whole home with wif-, and presumably have a wi-fi access point.
The best route would thereofre be to add a wi-fi card to your xda2, such as the Socket Wireless LAN (WiFi) SD Card. This will give you better speeds than bluetooth, and you will not have to worry about profiles etc.
Just my 2c
Surur

I use a Belkin USB bluetooth dongle, and using the ActiveSync passthrough you can then browse the web on the XDA within the range of the dongle. You can get dongles with a 100m range, which should be plenty within a house.
Only trouble is, being ActiveSync, it it pot luck whether you can establish a link or not. Once you've established the link, it works quite well, though not flawlessly. It's also quite slow. Not as slow as GPRS, but not exactly snappy either. I don't know whether this is down to PIE, the bluetooth, or the ActiveSync. Most likely the latter.
Ideally, you'd use a bluetooth access point, but I'm not sure the XDA will work with that due to the absence of an appropriate protocol.

Thanks for the replies... I know what you mean onepieceman... activesync if driving me crazing
Wi-fi seems my best bet since usb seems to be incredibly slow at downlaoding a page.... thanks for the recommendations surur and graah.

don use WiFi at home! use BT
I've got both BT dongle and WiFi sdio setup at home.
The BT is actually to a notebook which is WiFi'd to my ADSL to inet...
The WiFi is faster, but:
1. the BT actually gave me better range! (I got the 100m one from Belkin)
2. the WiFi is a pig ( P I G ) on the battery.
3. the WiFi takes up my SD porn-movies slot
if you setup activesync to only do the sync MANUALLY (you have to
tell it both on the PC and on the XDA to sync manually) then
establishing BT pass-thru is much easier/faster
The internet is kinda slow on the XDA, I think probably because
MS's pocket IE is just bad. I don't think the TCP/IP works correctly
or that it opens enough connections in parallel to get the GIF's
and stuff. The network/BT/WiFi and the hardware (128Mb/400Mhz)
is much faster than what IE/Microsoft gives us.
But what do you expect from the 640Kb is enough company, that
did it again with 32 ****ing processes?!

There is also the option of XDA CF jacket

Re: don use WiFi at home! use BT
mgolanlan said:
The internet is kinda slow on the XDA, I think probably because
MS's pocket IE is just bad. I don't think the TCP/IP works correctly
or that it opens enough connections in parallel to get the GIF's
and stuff. The network/BT/WiFi and the hardware (128Mb/400Mhz)
is much faster than what IE/Microsoft gives us.
But what do you expect from the 640Kb is enough company, that
did it again with 32 ****ing processes?!
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thanks mgolanlan... does this mean the net speed is going to be on par with the usb speed? - usb was incredibly slow ... if so i may as well not bother with net access all together

usb1.1 is 12Mb /sec
if your ADSL is faster then that you are pretty lucky

Wi-Fi Dongle and HTC Wizard... We need a router too, no?

Hello Everybody,
I have got my HTC Wizard damaged. Actually till last night it was working fine, but now when I plug it into the USB, windows says that the USB device has malfunctioned etc. I search Google and everybody said that they tried hard-reset too with no luck.
So then I started searching Google to see if I could find a wi-fi USB dongle. I do have a Bluetooth dongle but since Wizard has got Bluetooth 1.1 (I guess!) so the transfer rate does not accede 15 Kbps. This is something annoying.
Now, my main question is, that if I order a Wi-Fi dongle, will I be able to transfer files from my PC into my HTC Wizard without any intermediate router or any other network or something? A Wifi dongle is cheap, $9.9 on Google Products. But a router isn't, its at least $250 or so.
Also, if somebody has some experience with this, please do post back the speeds at which you think the data will be transfered. I am only looking for an alternate to USB. If a Wi-Fi dongle could work, it would be great! I already hate wires. I love wireless stuff.
People with experience of trying this please write down any more details that you might have. What's the maximum range of a Wi-Fi network (usually).
Thanks in advance.
I'll be waiting for your replies. Please do post back.

Can o' worms...
You'll be hard pressed to get a response. I bought a Wfib router for $12 on ebay six months ago. Most of the developers here have wfi cards in their PCs, so using a usb port is kind of a waste/pretty antiquated.
Yes, you could connect with the wizard's wifi to your PC, and transfer files with Total Commander (all over the forum & google-able), but I'm guessing no one wants to try to tackle steering someone who can't/hasn't googled a decently priced router, or feels the need to use usb for wifi. You'd have to set up a windows network, too. Wifi, if you haven't used it, is a whole new can of worms. All the info you need is out there, but you'll have to find it.
My suggestion is to dust out your ppcs usb port gently with a soft, new toothbrush, uninstall ActiveSync on your PC, reboot & reinstall, reboot, and use a different usb port on your pc. If that doesn't work, I bet you could send it in to get repaired for about $40.

Actually, I do have some knowledge of computers and can usually fight back in situations that are confusing. I am not a Pocket PC/Windows CE programmer, but I know Visual C++ etc and many other languages.
I was just wanting to know if there could be an intermediate device that could be needed that's why I posted the question. And thank you very much for the response. It was very kind of you.
I have two more questions now:
1) If wifi is like LAN, then why would we need total commander to browser files? Can't there be a way to browse files like we do usually on LAN? I mean as far as I understand, total commander would perhaps only 'share' the files over lan? Correct?
2) At what speeds can we transfer data over wifi? And what is the usual range (in meters) of Wifi data transfer?
Thanks in Advance.

Krix said:
Hello Everybody,
I have got my HTC Wizard damaged. Actually till last night it was working fine, but now when I plug it into the USB, windows says that the USB device has malfunctioned etc. I search Google and everybody said that they tried hard-reset too with no luck.
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Have you tried another USB port? Or another cable?
An unstable USB hub gave me similair problems.

Wifi *is* wireless LAN.
Wifi equipment (cards, adapters, routers) are just a replacement for the ethernet cables etc., with a few software security measures so people don't "tap in" without an invitation.
There are a million different apps that browse files. Not too many apps do sharing without browsing anymore, so I've started using sharing to mean both (sharing + browsing). TC is free, it has a (wifi/LAN) network function under "extras," (aka "//") has a txt editor and as many other extras you would want in browser. I'm not sure what you mean by "the usual way." The built in File Explorer? I don't know, and don't care, if the WM6 browser has a network plugin, I have never used it (nor Resco or any of the others) since I found TC.
You should be able to connect directly from your Wizard to your PC's wifi if you can set up a TCPIP network and assign them (the wireless part only) IP addresses. You'll want to set up your PC to act as your router by allowing the PCs internet connection to be shared. (Internet in via wire, wireless out & back to the rest of your network, incuding devices.)
I've never tried it without a router, though, but it worked fine with the LynkSys one I got on ebay for $12.
The new/different cable is a good idea.
Forgive me, but this thread, if I kept answering questions, could eat a lot of my time. If you're still stuck on the Wifi thing, there are too many great sites explaining how it works.

Using Windows Mobile phone as a USB WiFi receiver?

I was wondering if this is possible. I've heard of people using ICS Control to turn it into a hotspot, but I no longer have a working WiFi card. I just got a new computer with Windows 7 and all I can do is use the built-in Internet Connection Sharing that comes with WinMo until I get a long ethernet cable to wire from my router to my room.
So I was wondering if it's possible to use the phone's ability to receive WiFi to share that connection with the computer. I'm sure there's some way for it to be done. Any suggestions?

I have the same question
same situation here.
After some searching, I've found a program called "Serialtunnel" and "wmtunnel" that is supposed to do just that, however I cannot find any working download link...
Let me know if you find anything.

http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
Will work as wifi to usb, making your phone a WIFI usb adapter. I use it with my desktop when hooked to my TV in the livingroom, rather than a 35 foot cord.
Its as simple as= plug in phone, start Wmwifirouter , touch wifi to usb button.
Battery charges while working so it doesn't kill it.

phone's ability to receive WiFi to share that connection with the computer can only be obtained if your phone allows to do so. check out the official site of your phone developrs. there will definitly be some considerations about this

Two solutions
Found two programs that do just this, both work on Windows Mobile (and unfortunately not on Symbian), but are supposed to do just what you're looking for.
ICS Control
Serial Tunnel
IF anyone figures out how to get this (converted) to run on a Symbian device... Thanks.

Anyone?
Bumping to re-ask question.

WIFI
i didt understand

ravichandrabr said:
i didt understand
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I'm looking for a program that can "Wifi to USB" on a symbian (Nokia) phone.
In other words, I want to use my phone as a wireless adapter for an old pc without wifi.

would prob get more luck asking in a symbian forum

[Q] MicroUSB to ethernet ?

I've an HTC Desire HD and can connect via wifi, I could connect via cable and tether a PC via the phones 3G signal etc However, I was wondering if, in the absence of USB connectivity and no wifi or 3G, would a USB to RJ45 cable be made to work? That is, having a wired ethernet connection to the phone's microUSB port. Obviously you would need an ethernet driver on the phone.
Now I don't have an immediate need for this, it's more a case of 'I wonder ...... '. I've read that USB host mode is not possible but not sure how/if that would negate being able to driver ethernet over the microUSB port. Anyone know for sure?
Ta
Dave

dvhttn said:
I've an HTC Desire HD and can connect via wifi, I could connect via cable and tether a PC via the phones 3G signal etc However, I was wondering if, in the absence of USB connectivity and no wifi or 3G, would a USB to RJ45 cable be made to work? That is, having a wired ethernet connection to the phone's microUSB port. Obviously you would need an ethernet driver on the phone.
Now I don't have an immediate need for this, it's more a case of 'I wonder ...... '. I've read that USB host mode is not possible but not sure how/if that would negate being able to driver ethernet over the microUSB port. Anyone know for sure?
Ta
Dave
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I think the answer is not without usb host, and the cable would need to be more like a dongle with a nic in it.
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mrkite38 said:
I think the answer is not without usb host, and the cable would need to be more like a dongle with a nic in it. ...
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You're right of course. Doh ..... (on my part). But then you can get things such as this ... http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...NIC-1427-100--USB-to-RJ45-Network-connection- ... (first one I found - may be cr*p ).
Dave

I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
It requires a Linux router with enough guts to do it, Tommato/DD-WRT running, and one must fiddle with it. Essentially one uses the router to share the internet USB connection. It is probably the cheapest and most supported route.

LargePrime said:
I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
It requires a Linux router with enough guts to do it, Tommato/DD-WRT running, and one must fiddle with it. Essentially one uses the router to share the internet USB connection. It is probably the cheapest and most supported route.
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That would be lovely though .. Ill try it later ...

Let us know how it goes.

Back in the day I had an HP iPaq that didn't have WiFi built in, but I could connect it to a wired network via a small adapter that functioned as a nic. Hypothetically you could find or fashion such a device to function over mini-USB, and then write some drivers to get it to share data with an attached computer. Just my 2c.

If you want to write drivers, you have a whole new level of complexity.
USB port of a router is a known cheap solution.

I'd have to second the OP's idea, as it does have merit. Hopefully the work on getting the USB Host working can show some results in the future....
However, I'm in the same boat, where I have a Nook Color running CM7 I use as a tablet, and an N1. I'm also on business in China a lot, and I prefer to use the NC in place of a laptop, although in some places wireless is flakey or non-existent. In those scenarios I'd rather not use the N1 as an access point using the 3G network to run data, as it adds up quick, even when using China sim cards.
It's these situations where a means to connect an android device to a physical ethernet is desirable, whether by USB or by wireless to a dongle.
This is the one device I'm testing out now is a CQR-980 from Cnet. You'll have to google it, because I can't post links.
The reason for this unit is it's size (its 3.52 (L) x 2.32 (W) x 1.06 (H) inches), and full support for setting up a secure wireless environment. If it works right, I will pre-configure it as an access point with WPA2, and it should be able to be plugged into any ethernet port in a hotel or otherwise, and I should get an IP on the NC or N1 via wireless.
If anyone else has found a better way to make this sort of setup work, would love to hear of it. The fewer devices I have to bring the better. Yet this is still better than dragging even a small laptop around.

I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.

The Phone got to have specialized hardware to enable it to use just that USB to RJ-45 cable.
But in my experience, I could be wrong about it. Don't know what the R & D guys will cook up next.

This could make the job of having RJ45 connected to USB?
http://www.cnetusa.com/eng/CQR-981.php

Also this seems interesting:
http://www.euogo.com/usb-lan-adapte...to-rj45-adapter-for-android-tablets_p420.html
Will it work with an ASUS Transformer (Honeycomb 3.0)?

I have looked around a lot on the web for the MicroUSB to RJ45 Ethernet on a Droid, no luck. I have small hardware devices that have embedded configuration servers that are only accessible via TCP/IP Ethernet RJ45 ports and I normally use my netbook for that. I thought it would sure be cool to be able to access those embedded servers via my Droid2G for example, and get rid of the netbook. It seems like the phone can do almost everything else.
I've read about USB host mode etc, and the mini dongles with NIC's in them seem more promising, but I guess there has not been a big enough need for the guru's to go after it. Aparently it may available on the Android 3.x tablets but no able to backport to Android 2.x? Verizon will likely never upgrade my D2G OS.

dvhttn said:
You're right of course. Doh ..... (on my part). But then you can get things such as this ... http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...NIC-1427-100--USB-to-RJ45-Network-connection- ... (first one I found - may be cr*p ).
Dave
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What if you used this but also used a usb extender so you could plug in the phone cable to the usb to rj45.? Then all that would be left would be the drivers.

With the exception of cybdroid's situation I think that a little wireless ap would work great. I have a little netgear wgr101 that works great.. you connect it to a rj45 port in the motel, and then wifi from the phone or laptop.
The reason i'm on this tipic, is I was thinking rj45 to rj45 on a copier. Then I can set same subnet, and ip range with a crossover cable(or ipx on on the copier). Then I wouldn't have to use a full laptop to troubleshoot...
now i'm not an apple fan but redpark has something for the i- series of apple products to do exactly what i'm curious about... you can check it on the tech journal.
Now that I spend some time reading and thinking, I might even be able to use my little wgr101 if i figure out a hosts file in the android os to direct traffic through the router. And, if I don't have to wear out the usb jack on the device, all the better.
I think I have my problem fixed, just went ahead a posted this as it might give someone else an idea. Might be a solution that even the op enjoys entertaining... I think op#2 and frayedends are on the right track.

Can you use a Nexus10 as a PRIMARY laptop screen to replace a broken laptop screen ?

I wanted to know if the Nexus 10 can be used as a PRIMARY laptop screen?
A wired connection would be preferred, with a bluetooth connection being an alternative.
I cracked the screen on my Lenovo E420 laptop and I wanted to buy a Nexus10 and use it as a replacement for my primary laptop LCD.
Thank you.

You could look into this: http://www.celiocorp.com/screenslider/

irishrally said:
You could look into this: http://www.celiocorp.com/screenslider/
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Thanks for posting, Rally.
Unfortunately, the solution you provided requires a Wi-Fi network connection.
I need a wired solution preferably, or bluetooth solution at worst, because I will not always have WiFi access.
From the site you provided:
http://www.celiocorp.com/screenslider_faq
Q: I've installed the PC and Android apps but the two devices can't see each other in the "Find Devices" (PC) or "Connect To" (Android) menus.
A: Make sure that you enable Wi-Fi on your Android device and that the ScreenSlider for Android app is running on your device with the screen turned on,
Q: I've installed the PC and Android apps but the two devices, enabled Wi-Fi on my Android device, but the two devices can't see each other to start a connection.
A: In order for ScreenSlider to function properly both your PC and Android device need to be on the same Local Area Network (LAN and subnet). Your PC can be connected to the network via Wi-Fi or Ethernet but must stay on the same LAN and subnet. This should not be a problem for home use (and for some small businesses too) especially if you only have one wired/wireless router in the home or office connected to your incoming Internet connection (Cable modem, DLS modem, etc.). If your PC and Android device can not see each other on a complicated home network or in an office environment, please ask your IT administrator to see if both devices are on the same LAN and subnet.

But Why??
Why would you use the nexus 10 as a replacement screen when you could just simply well.... buy a replacement screen? Unless your intention is to use the nexus as it is intended as well but..... i don'y know i just find it odd to use a 350 dollar tablet as a replacement LCD.

Droid_4_ever said:
Why would you use the nexus 10 as a replacement screen when you could just simply well.... buy a replacement screen? Unless your intention is to use the nexus as it is intended as well but..... i don'y know i just find it odd to use a 350 dollar tablet as a replacement LCD.
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You answered your own question.
If I have to buy a new "screen", I might as well get one that can serve 2 purposes:
1. A stand alone Android tablet
2. A replacement LCD for my laptop.

As nice and geeky as it sounds, it's never going to be practical. At best you could remote desktop into the laptop from the tablet, otherwise, not worth the effort, just get a new screen, or bin the laptop if you can live with just a tablet.

Maybe check out iDisplay?
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chilimac02 said:
Maybe check out iDisplay?
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Thanks for the suggestion.
Unfortunately, it requires all devices be connected to WiFi.
I'm looking for a wired or bluetooth connection.
alias_neo said:
As nice and geeky as it sounds, it's never going to be practical. At best you could remote desktop into the laptop from the tablet, otherwise, not worth the effort, just get a new screen, or bin the laptop if you can live with just a tablet.
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Thanks for the response.
Why can't it be practical?
Why can't the Nexus10 work as an external monitor with either a wired or a bluetooth connection?

tt c6 said:
Thanks for the response.
Why can't it be practical?
Why can't the Nexus10 work as an external monitor with either a wired or a bluetooth connection?
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No problem,
Well, the device isn't designed to accept video on its usb port, and it probably lacks the bandwidth unless it supports some reverse MHL implementation.
As for Bluetooth, I'm pretty sure all Bluetooth versions lack the bandwidth by some margin to display decent quality video at a decent rate.
Unfortunately just the nature of these things, it wasn't designed for it, so it'll never do a very good job of it.... Remote desktop on the other hand over Wifi will probably work quite nicely.
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