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Connection to LAN via non-wireless Router, autocharger...

I know that connection to the internet can be achieved via USB&ActiveSync or Wifi. But can the device be connect to the internet via normal Ethernet plug on my (non-wireless) router. Which adapters are required to do so? At home I do not have a wireless router so I am wondering if this is possible…
And, can auto charger for my Hermes (TyTN) be also used for Athena??
Thanks again
Uros

Buy a cheap wireless access point (with no router) and connect it to the port on your wired only router.

the phone may also connect to the internet via bluetooth
and yes i believe the charger from your hermes should work
Usb voltages are the same pretty much

Thanks. Would this device called "Macally 5-in-1 USB Combo Kit" allow this?
see -> http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=115169
Which Bluetooth device do you recommend?
Uros

cerk2006 said:
Thanks. Would this device called "Macally 5-in-1 USB Combo Kit" allow this?
see -> http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=115169
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No. That's just a bunch of connectors. It won't help your situation.
I still think Pyrofer's sollution is the best one (second post).

any bluetooth dongle should work
but ideally speaking if u can afford it go for the wireless access point it will cost a little more than a bluetooth but its well worth the extra 10-15 bucks

Guys, many thanks for your opinion. Any yes, am I aware the wireless solution is the best way to go.
Nonetheless I would like to stay "wired" for some time more. Reason is that I have two small kinds and we are leaving in a small apartment. I would like to prevent exposing them to any unnecessary "wireless" technologies as long as possible, at least now when they are growing up.
So, once again I am asking you: is there an adapter between Ethernet plug (RJ-45) and (mini) USB on the Athena and will eventually connection to the internet work?

There is NO wired adaptor for the Athena. The closest you can get is a USB lead and activesync, then use the PCs internet connection.

USB to Ethernet Adapter ???
Thanks all for your feedback!
What about this device: USB 2.0 to RJ-45 Ethernet Adapter
(http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?ID=42665&C=212&S=-1) in combinatin with 4 in 1 cable?? Could this work??
(Or http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HE-130R&cat=NET)

Does it come with A PocketPC driver? If not, no use.
If it doesnt say it comes with PPC drivers, i doubt it does.

You are right, Pyrofer, it doesn't support the PPCs
But maybe this one does: http://www.clarinetsys.com/en/product-ea104.htm,
I just need to check the price...

cerk2006 said:
You are right, Pyrofer, it doesn't support the PPCs
But maybe this one does: http://www.clarinetsys.com/en/product-ea104.htm,
I just need to check the price...
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On the web site, it says:
Supports PPC 2002/2003/2003SE, CE5/4.2/4.1 and Windows® Mobile 5.0 (coming soon)
I am not sure it means the driver for WM5 is coming soon.

cerk2006 said:
Nonetheless I would like to stay "wired" for some time more. Reason is that I have two small kinds and we are leaving in a small apartment. I would like to prevent exposing them to any unnecessary "wireless" technologies as long as possible, at least now when they are growing up.
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Ummm, you want to protect them from wireless radio waves? I take it you leave the phone in flight mode when in their presence, don't use Microwave ovens in your house, haven't got cordless phones e.t.c.? Sorry, don't want to bash your views, but there IS an awful lot of paranoia put out by the media and many people who jump on the bandwagon before establishing the facts.
As for sharing the internet, I know you can do it from PC->Ameo V easily with the included 'internet sharing' applet. I do it via BT, but USB works equally well.

USB Phone via telnet?

My Trinity has VoIP available but nonetheless - as far as VoIP is concerned - I would like to just use it as a USB phone connected to my PC. It connects through USB so is it possible to use it as a VoIP handset?
I have already searched a bit on this topic, and have found that just using the ActiveSync connection won't do the trick since one cannot access the mic/speaker through USB, only data transfer as files or sync...
But I know of other client/server programs that do some telnet stuff over the connection, in order to transfer keystrokes, mouse and screen data. Would something similar be possible for what I have in mind? I just hope that the overhead or lag would not be too much. And I know for sure that other people would also like this feature
Anyone willing to give it a go, or know of an alternative?

shot in the dark...

This is a shot in the dark, but has anyone heard of anyone who got the mogul to work as an access point? Basically, use the evdo radio to connect to the internet, and use the wireless connection, either as an adhoc connection, or preferably as a full on access point with wpa2 to share to a laptop, other devices, etc. To better describe this, you can kind of do it with a laptop:
1. connect phone via ics or dun to laptop.
2. in windows, enable ics and create ah-hoc network with encryption.
3. Other laptop connects to windows laptop, gets wireless connection and is effectively using the phone as an access point.
Even better
1. Connect phone via dun to linux laptop.
2. Linux laptop (using madwifi driver or other open source) broadcasts access point settiings and works as a full on access point.
Scenario:
I want to be able to connect my mogul to my n800. I can do that now with DUN, but what if I want to use my bluetooth headphones, or the bluetooth keyboard that I haven't bought yet? Bluetooth only allows one connection at a time, so I'm SOL. If I could get my stupid mogul to work as an access point, then I could share my connection with any wireless device (how sick would that be) and reserve bluetooth for what I wanted to really do with it, not just browsing the net. Don't get me wrong, I love that I can even sync via bluetooth, but am just looking to expand the possibilties. Unfortunately, since this is WM6, I have no idea how to really work the SDK to see if network bridging is possible. If this were a Linux phone I'd probably be done already. =(

search for socks proxy.
it doesn't work that well, but it does work..
-mark

jtlonthewestside said:
Scenario:
I want to be able to connect my mogul to my n800. I can do that now with DUN, but what if I want to use my bluetooth headphones, or the bluetooth keyboard that I haven't bought yet? Bluetooth only allows one connection at a time, so I'm SOL. If I could get my stupid mogul to work as an access point, then I could share my connection with any wireless device (how sick would that be) and reserve bluetooth for what I wanted to really do with it, not just browsing the net. Don't get me wrong, I love that I can even sync via bluetooth, but am just looking to expand the possibilties. Unfortunately, since this is WM6, I have no idea how to really work the SDK to see if network bridging is possible. If this were a Linux phone I'd probably be done already. =(
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Ummm... I'm not sure what you are basing your Bluetooth information on, but the BT specification allows for up to 8 concurrent connections at once- one master devices and 7 slaves. Why do you think its only one at a time?
I use multiple connections all the time- Very often I have my phone connected to my bluetooth GPS receiver in the car, and at the same time I'm playing tunes from the same phone over my A2DP compatible car stereo... or, take a phone call on my BT headset, and all the while I'm still connected to the GPS who is still tracking my location using bluetooth. I can tell the person where I am in real-time.
I've also had someone send me a file while talking on the phone via BT headset.
You don't need such a complicated solution for your imagined problem! I don't see any reason you can't tether it and still connect to up to 7 more Bluetooth devices at the same time!
Still, using it as an access point might prove useful for other sorts of scenarios (teleconnected mobile Lan parties? WiFi on a Bus? The incredible moving hotspot?), but you don't need it... at least not for your described scenario!
Basides, you'll get better battery life out of your connected devices if just using BT instead of WiFi!

Wi-Fi Dongle and HTC Wizard... We need a router too, no?

Hello Everybody,
I have got my HTC Wizard damaged. Actually till last night it was working fine, but now when I plug it into the USB, windows says that the USB device has malfunctioned etc. I search Google and everybody said that they tried hard-reset too with no luck.
So then I started searching Google to see if I could find a wi-fi USB dongle. I do have a Bluetooth dongle but since Wizard has got Bluetooth 1.1 (I guess!) so the transfer rate does not accede 15 Kbps. This is something annoying.
Now, my main question is, that if I order a Wi-Fi dongle, will I be able to transfer files from my PC into my HTC Wizard without any intermediate router or any other network or something? A Wifi dongle is cheap, $9.9 on Google Products. But a router isn't, its at least $250 or so.
Also, if somebody has some experience with this, please do post back the speeds at which you think the data will be transfered. I am only looking for an alternate to USB. If a Wi-Fi dongle could work, it would be great! I already hate wires. I love wireless stuff.
People with experience of trying this please write down any more details that you might have. What's the maximum range of a Wi-Fi network (usually).
Thanks in advance.
I'll be waiting for your replies. Please do post back.

Can o' worms...
You'll be hard pressed to get a response. I bought a Wfib router for $12 on ebay six months ago. Most of the developers here have wfi cards in their PCs, so using a usb port is kind of a waste/pretty antiquated.
Yes, you could connect with the wizard's wifi to your PC, and transfer files with Total Commander (all over the forum & google-able), but I'm guessing no one wants to try to tackle steering someone who can't/hasn't googled a decently priced router, or feels the need to use usb for wifi. You'd have to set up a windows network, too. Wifi, if you haven't used it, is a whole new can of worms. All the info you need is out there, but you'll have to find it.
My suggestion is to dust out your ppcs usb port gently with a soft, new toothbrush, uninstall ActiveSync on your PC, reboot & reinstall, reboot, and use a different usb port on your pc. If that doesn't work, I bet you could send it in to get repaired for about $40.

Actually, I do have some knowledge of computers and can usually fight back in situations that are confusing. I am not a Pocket PC/Windows CE programmer, but I know Visual C++ etc and many other languages.
I was just wanting to know if there could be an intermediate device that could be needed that's why I posted the question. And thank you very much for the response. It was very kind of you.
I have two more questions now:
1) If wifi is like LAN, then why would we need total commander to browser files? Can't there be a way to browse files like we do usually on LAN? I mean as far as I understand, total commander would perhaps only 'share' the files over lan? Correct?
2) At what speeds can we transfer data over wifi? And what is the usual range (in meters) of Wifi data transfer?
Thanks in Advance.

Krix said:
Hello Everybody,
I have got my HTC Wizard damaged. Actually till last night it was working fine, but now when I plug it into the USB, windows says that the USB device has malfunctioned etc. I search Google and everybody said that they tried hard-reset too with no luck.
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Have you tried another USB port? Or another cable?
An unstable USB hub gave me similair problems.

Wifi *is* wireless LAN.
Wifi equipment (cards, adapters, routers) are just a replacement for the ethernet cables etc., with a few software security measures so people don't "tap in" without an invitation.
There are a million different apps that browse files. Not too many apps do sharing without browsing anymore, so I've started using sharing to mean both (sharing + browsing). TC is free, it has a (wifi/LAN) network function under "extras," (aka "//") has a txt editor and as many other extras you would want in browser. I'm not sure what you mean by "the usual way." The built in File Explorer? I don't know, and don't care, if the WM6 browser has a network plugin, I have never used it (nor Resco or any of the others) since I found TC.
You should be able to connect directly from your Wizard to your PC's wifi if you can set up a TCPIP network and assign them (the wireless part only) IP addresses. You'll want to set up your PC to act as your router by allowing the PCs internet connection to be shared. (Internet in via wire, wireless out & back to the rest of your network, incuding devices.)
I've never tried it without a router, though, but it worked fine with the LynkSys one I got on ebay for $12.
The new/different cable is a good idea.
Forgive me, but this thread, if I kept answering questions, could eat a lot of my time. If you're still stuck on the Wifi thing, there are too many great sites explaining how it works.

[Q] MicroUSB to ethernet ?

I've an HTC Desire HD and can connect via wifi, I could connect via cable and tether a PC via the phones 3G signal etc However, I was wondering if, in the absence of USB connectivity and no wifi or 3G, would a USB to RJ45 cable be made to work? That is, having a wired ethernet connection to the phone's microUSB port. Obviously you would need an ethernet driver on the phone.
Now I don't have an immediate need for this, it's more a case of 'I wonder ...... '. I've read that USB host mode is not possible but not sure how/if that would negate being able to driver ethernet over the microUSB port. Anyone know for sure?
Ta
Dave

dvhttn said:
I've an HTC Desire HD and can connect via wifi, I could connect via cable and tether a PC via the phones 3G signal etc However, I was wondering if, in the absence of USB connectivity and no wifi or 3G, would a USB to RJ45 cable be made to work? That is, having a wired ethernet connection to the phone's microUSB port. Obviously you would need an ethernet driver on the phone.
Now I don't have an immediate need for this, it's more a case of 'I wonder ...... '. I've read that USB host mode is not possible but not sure how/if that would negate being able to driver ethernet over the microUSB port. Anyone know for sure?
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Dave
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I think the answer is not without usb host, and the cable would need to be more like a dongle with a nic in it.
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mrkite38 said:
I think the answer is not without usb host, and the cable would need to be more like a dongle with a nic in it. ...
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You're right of course. Doh ..... (on my part). But then you can get things such as this ... http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...NIC-1427-100--USB-to-RJ45-Network-connection- ... (first one I found - may be cr*p ).
Dave

I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
It requires a Linux router with enough guts to do it, Tommato/DD-WRT running, and one must fiddle with it. Essentially one uses the router to share the internet USB connection. It is probably the cheapest and most supported route.

LargePrime said:
I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
It requires a Linux router with enough guts to do it, Tommato/DD-WRT running, and one must fiddle with it. Essentially one uses the router to share the internet USB connection. It is probably the cheapest and most supported route.
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That would be lovely though .. Ill try it later ...

Let us know how it goes.

Back in the day I had an HP iPaq that didn't have WiFi built in, but I could connect it to a wired network via a small adapter that functioned as a nic. Hypothetically you could find or fashion such a device to function over mini-USB, and then write some drivers to get it to share data with an attached computer. Just my 2c.

If you want to write drivers, you have a whole new level of complexity.
USB port of a router is a known cheap solution.

I'd have to second the OP's idea, as it does have merit. Hopefully the work on getting the USB Host working can show some results in the future....
However, I'm in the same boat, where I have a Nook Color running CM7 I use as a tablet, and an N1. I'm also on business in China a lot, and I prefer to use the NC in place of a laptop, although in some places wireless is flakey or non-existent. In those scenarios I'd rather not use the N1 as an access point using the 3G network to run data, as it adds up quick, even when using China sim cards.
It's these situations where a means to connect an android device to a physical ethernet is desirable, whether by USB or by wireless to a dongle.
This is the one device I'm testing out now is a CQR-980 from Cnet. You'll have to google it, because I can't post links.
The reason for this unit is it's size (its 3.52 (L) x 2.32 (W) x 1.06 (H) inches), and full support for setting up a secure wireless environment. If it works right, I will pre-configure it as an access point with WPA2, and it should be able to be plugged into any ethernet port in a hotel or otherwise, and I should get an IP on the NC or N1 via wireless.
If anyone else has found a better way to make this sort of setup work, would love to hear of it. The fewer devices I have to bring the better. Yet this is still better than dragging even a small laptop around.

I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.

The Phone got to have specialized hardware to enable it to use just that USB to RJ-45 cable.
But in my experience, I could be wrong about it. Don't know what the R & D guys will cook up next.

This could make the job of having RJ45 connected to USB?
http://www.cnetusa.com/eng/CQR-981.php

Also this seems interesting:
http://www.euogo.com/usb-lan-adapte...to-rj45-adapter-for-android-tablets_p420.html
Will it work with an ASUS Transformer (Honeycomb 3.0)?

I have looked around a lot on the web for the MicroUSB to RJ45 Ethernet on a Droid, no luck. I have small hardware devices that have embedded configuration servers that are only accessible via TCP/IP Ethernet RJ45 ports and I normally use my netbook for that. I thought it would sure be cool to be able to access those embedded servers via my Droid2G for example, and get rid of the netbook. It seems like the phone can do almost everything else.
I've read about USB host mode etc, and the mini dongles with NIC's in them seem more promising, but I guess there has not been a big enough need for the guru's to go after it. Aparently it may available on the Android 3.x tablets but no able to backport to Android 2.x? Verizon will likely never upgrade my D2G OS.

dvhttn said:
You're right of course. Doh ..... (on my part). But then you can get things such as this ... http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...NIC-1427-100--USB-to-RJ45-Network-connection- ... (first one I found - may be cr*p ).
Dave
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What if you used this but also used a usb extender so you could plug in the phone cable to the usb to rj45.? Then all that would be left would be the drivers.

With the exception of cybdroid's situation I think that a little wireless ap would work great. I have a little netgear wgr101 that works great.. you connect it to a rj45 port in the motel, and then wifi from the phone or laptop.
The reason i'm on this tipic, is I was thinking rj45 to rj45 on a copier. Then I can set same subnet, and ip range with a crossover cable(or ipx on on the copier). Then I wouldn't have to use a full laptop to troubleshoot...
now i'm not an apple fan but redpark has something for the i- series of apple products to do exactly what i'm curious about... you can check it on the tech journal.
Now that I spend some time reading and thinking, I might even be able to use my little wgr101 if i figure out a hosts file in the android os to direct traffic through the router. And, if I don't have to wear out the usb jack on the device, all the better.
I think I have my problem fixed, just went ahead a posted this as it might give someone else an idea. Might be a solution that even the op enjoys entertaining... I think op#2 and frayedends are on the right track.