This is a shot in the dark, but has anyone heard of anyone who got the mogul to work as an access point? Basically, use the evdo radio to connect to the internet, and use the wireless connection, either as an adhoc connection, or preferably as a full on access point with wpa2 to share to a laptop, other devices, etc. To better describe this, you can kind of do it with a laptop:
1. connect phone via ics or dun to laptop.
2. in windows, enable ics and create ah-hoc network with encryption.
3. Other laptop connects to windows laptop, gets wireless connection and is effectively using the phone as an access point.
Even better
1. Connect phone via dun to linux laptop.
2. Linux laptop (using madwifi driver or other open source) broadcasts access point settiings and works as a full on access point.
Scenario:
I want to be able to connect my mogul to my n800. I can do that now with DUN, but what if I want to use my bluetooth headphones, or the bluetooth keyboard that I haven't bought yet? Bluetooth only allows one connection at a time, so I'm SOL. If I could get my stupid mogul to work as an access point, then I could share my connection with any wireless device (how sick would that be) and reserve bluetooth for what I wanted to really do with it, not just browsing the net. Don't get me wrong, I love that I can even sync via bluetooth, but am just looking to expand the possibilties. Unfortunately, since this is WM6, I have no idea how to really work the SDK to see if network bridging is possible. If this were a Linux phone I'd probably be done already. =(
search for socks proxy.
it doesn't work that well, but it does work..
-mark
jtlonthewestside said:
Scenario:
I want to be able to connect my mogul to my n800. I can do that now with DUN, but what if I want to use my bluetooth headphones, or the bluetooth keyboard that I haven't bought yet? Bluetooth only allows one connection at a time, so I'm SOL. If I could get my stupid mogul to work as an access point, then I could share my connection with any wireless device (how sick would that be) and reserve bluetooth for what I wanted to really do with it, not just browsing the net. Don't get me wrong, I love that I can even sync via bluetooth, but am just looking to expand the possibilties. Unfortunately, since this is WM6, I have no idea how to really work the SDK to see if network bridging is possible. If this were a Linux phone I'd probably be done already. =(
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Ummm... I'm not sure what you are basing your Bluetooth information on, but the BT specification allows for up to 8 concurrent connections at once- one master devices and 7 slaves. Why do you think its only one at a time?
I use multiple connections all the time- Very often I have my phone connected to my bluetooth GPS receiver in the car, and at the same time I'm playing tunes from the same phone over my A2DP compatible car stereo... or, take a phone call on my BT headset, and all the while I'm still connected to the GPS who is still tracking my location using bluetooth. I can tell the person where I am in real-time.
I've also had someone send me a file while talking on the phone via BT headset.
You don't need such a complicated solution for your imagined problem! I don't see any reason you can't tether it and still connect to up to 7 more Bluetooth devices at the same time!
Still, using it as an access point might prove useful for other sorts of scenarios (teleconnected mobile Lan parties? WiFi on a Bus? The incredible moving hotspot?), but you don't need it... at least not for your described scenario!
Basides, you'll get better battery life out of your connected devices if just using BT instead of WiFi!
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From another thread... i've just been told xdaII doesn't have Wi-fi as i first presumed.
Can someone suggest the best way to access the net through my home adsl router? Would bluetooth be my best bet?
Can you recommend specifically which equipment will work... since there are so many issues at the moment as to what works and what doesn't.
Thanks!!
Fais
put i-mate in usb cradle, hook up cradle to PC. i-mate uses PC's network connection.
Outside of that you'll either be springing for a usb/bt dongle (which I haven't seen any posts of anyone using) or a WiFi SD card. Can't think of any other options off the top of my head.
As you have mentioned earlier, you have already wired up your whole home with wif-, and presumably have a wi-fi access point.
The best route would thereofre be to add a wi-fi card to your xda2, such as the Socket Wireless LAN (WiFi) SD Card. This will give you better speeds than bluetooth, and you will not have to worry about profiles etc.
Just my 2c
Surur
I use a Belkin USB bluetooth dongle, and using the ActiveSync passthrough you can then browse the web on the XDA within the range of the dongle. You can get dongles with a 100m range, which should be plenty within a house.
Only trouble is, being ActiveSync, it it pot luck whether you can establish a link or not. Once you've established the link, it works quite well, though not flawlessly. It's also quite slow. Not as slow as GPRS, but not exactly snappy either. I don't know whether this is down to PIE, the bluetooth, or the ActiveSync. Most likely the latter.
Ideally, you'd use a bluetooth access point, but I'm not sure the XDA will work with that due to the absence of an appropriate protocol.
Thanks for the replies... I know what you mean onepieceman... activesync if driving me crazing
Wi-fi seems my best bet since usb seems to be incredibly slow at downlaoding a page.... thanks for the recommendations surur and graah.
don use WiFi at home! use BT
I've got both BT dongle and WiFi sdio setup at home.
The BT is actually to a notebook which is WiFi'd to my ADSL to inet...
The WiFi is faster, but:
1. the BT actually gave me better range! (I got the 100m one from Belkin)
2. the WiFi is a pig ( P I G ) on the battery.
3. the WiFi takes up my SD porn-movies slot
if you setup activesync to only do the sync MANUALLY (you have to
tell it both on the PC and on the XDA to sync manually) then
establishing BT pass-thru is much easier/faster
The internet is kinda slow on the XDA, I think probably because
MS's pocket IE is just bad. I don't think the TCP/IP works correctly
or that it opens enough connections in parallel to get the GIF's
and stuff. The network/BT/WiFi and the hardware (128Mb/400Mhz)
is much faster than what IE/Microsoft gives us.
But what do you expect from the 640Kb is enough company, that
did it again with 32 ****ing processes?!
There is also the option of XDA CF jacket
Re: don use WiFi at home! use BT
mgolanlan said:
The internet is kinda slow on the XDA, I think probably because
MS's pocket IE is just bad. I don't think the TCP/IP works correctly
or that it opens enough connections in parallel to get the GIF's
and stuff. The network/BT/WiFi and the hardware (128Mb/400Mhz)
is much faster than what IE/Microsoft gives us.
But what do you expect from the 640Kb is enough company, that
did it again with 32 ****ing processes?!
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thanks mgolanlan... does this mean the net speed is going to be on par with the usb speed? - usb was incredibly slow ... if so i may as well not bother with net access all together
usb1.1 is 12Mb /sec
if your ADSL is faster then that you are pretty lucky
Hi folks, need some help here!
Got a bluetake x-bridge bluetooth access point and want to use it to connect my jam to my PC and surf the net, synchronise etc.
I've connected it to my router via a network cable, but the device itself doesn't come with any drivers.
The connection settings are on the page below
http://www.bluetake.com/Manuals/BT300/BT300_QSG_EN.pdf
In the section marked console configuration, it talks about having a PC with Bluetooth function embedded in it, then talks about using a dongle to get the required drivers I guess. Does this mean I need to buy a dongle too?
Sorry for going on, but I'm a bit confused!!!!
It looks like a sort of standalone device. The only thing I can suggest is looking through the manual for the default IP it uses. You may be able to set it up through a web interface. The dongle is required for connecting to it, but you won't need to, because your PPC already has bluetooth.
Having said that, I really can't see why you bought a bluetooth access point which runs at less than 1Mbps, when for £20, you could have got a WiFi SDIO card, and connected at 11Mbps
The reason i bought it are
a) It was about £3 on ebay
b) I don't want to sacrifice storage space by having to use an SD wifi card
Thanks for your help anyway, but the pdf you looked at is the only manual i got!!
I'll persevere
LANP
AFAIK the Jam does not support the LANP profile for BT networking. This is certainly the case for the Qtek S100. Anybody know different?
hello
i want to ask if it excist a program which connects bluetooth to wlan. because i know that for nokia serie 60 they where so a program.
if you know sometihning please answer.
and i am sorry for my bad english
Bluetooth and Wireless lan are 2 completely different things. They operate of different frequencies and at different speeds.
Physically, there is no way to do this, and on the Nokias they may have a wireless lan card in it?
no on nokia there is a program which let bluetooth connect to wlan. its works also on old models like 3650.
so i want to know if the same method will works with magican or if they are a program which makes that
These is part of the specs for the 3650 from Nokia's website:
Wireless Connectivity
* Infrared
* Bluetooth
* Connect phone wirelessly to a compatible phone or a compatible PC
* Send/receive pictures, video clips, and graphics
* Play games
If your are refering to the 3rd option, the phone can connect wirelessly to a compatible PC via BT or IR and not via WLAN using Nokia's PC Suite software. One can then surf the web, check emails, etc using the phone as long as the PC is connected to either via LAN or WLAN. This is also possible with a Magician.
As "eliosfa" said, these are totally 2 different technologies. It's like remote controls, there is the IR (mostly found in entertainment equipment) and RF (commonly used in garage doors).
no you dont understand me
this program excists. my friend try it on his nokia 3650 and it works very good so i have thought that it also will give a programm for magican
do you no something ??
let me know
what i understand from your statement that your friend has a 3650, via the phones bluetooth he connects to his pc via a wlan? my friend, that's totally impossible.
in any case, assuming what you say is true, can you tell us the name of the software/program your friend is using in his 3650? what are steps/procedures/settings used?
that is exactly what i would like to know, given that fact that they are 2 completely different technologies...
Actually, both bluetooth and wifi operate at the same 2.4GHz frequence. But they are completely different protocol, and there is no way for them talk to each other.
Someone explain quite well here:
http://www.bluejackq.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=3258
about the wireless internet
mayb what he's talking about is that his friend connects to the computer via bluetooth n the computer is further connected via wlan which enables his friend to connect to the internet overe bluetooth.....it probabaly creates a serial connection over bluetooth
I think you mean the PAN profile. Just search in this Forum. Look for "PAN" or "Bluesoleil"
I think you mean the PAN profile. Just search in this Forum. Look for "PAN" or "Bluesoleil"
I'm getting an HTC Touch Vogue in about a week or so. I am a bit frustrated that Sprint still doesn't offer EVDO in my area (Beaumont, TX which isn't exactly tiny). Since WiFi is sacrificed in the Touch, I was wondering if one can use the bluetooth to share internet from the PC? If so, are there any specific requirements as far as a bluetooth adapter on the PC side, or would most generic bluetooth adapters work?
Thanks!
syncmate
i have seen something about sync mate 1.4 doing this, but have had no luck myself.
Getting it to work isn't straightforward, but as long as your data plan includes PAM (phone-as-modem), it DOES work, and is officially supported. You don't even need official drivers from Sprint to do it.
There's a caveat, though: if you have a bluetooth mouse and you tether the phone via bluetooth & activate internet sharing, the mouse's performance is going to go to hell. It'll stutter, miss clicks, and generally drive you nuts. As a result, I now carry a short USB cable, and almost always tether via usb if I'm using my mouse too.
Make sure you do the following steps in order:
1. Connect the phone via usb and sync. If you can't do this, I guarantee you won't be able to get online, either.
2. Share the phone's internet connection via usb. If you can't share via usb, I can guarantee you won't be able to share via bluetooth, either.
3. Disconnect the usb, and try to sync via bluetooth. If you can't sync via bluetooth, you won't be able to share the internet via bluetooth, either.
4. Share the phone's internet connection via bluetooth. If it doesn't work, make sure you're connected to the phone (go to bluetooth neighborhood, right-click the phone's icon, choose "connect"), and make sure you successfully managed to do steps 1-3. Until the first 3 steps work, you're wasting your time with step 4. ;-)
^^^ I think lotherius is trying to use his home internet connection to share internet with his phone (accessing through your PC/Mac as opposed to through your phone) Hours of goggling has led me to nothing on this
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if your using a pc, doesnt activesync have a pass through feature that allows this?
If what you're saying is you want to view internet on your phone, through bluetooth on your computer, then yes, it is completely possible. On my phone all I have to do is sync my phone via bluetooth, and it works automatically.
I was wondering if this is possible. I've heard of people using ICS Control to turn it into a hotspot, but I no longer have a working WiFi card. I just got a new computer with Windows 7 and all I can do is use the built-in Internet Connection Sharing that comes with WinMo until I get a long ethernet cable to wire from my router to my room.
So I was wondering if it's possible to use the phone's ability to receive WiFi to share that connection with the computer. I'm sure there's some way for it to be done. Any suggestions?
I have the same question
same situation here.
After some searching, I've found a program called "Serialtunnel" and "wmtunnel" that is supposed to do just that, however I cannot find any working download link...
Let me know if you find anything.
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
Will work as wifi to usb, making your phone a WIFI usb adapter. I use it with my desktop when hooked to my TV in the livingroom, rather than a 35 foot cord.
Its as simple as= plug in phone, start Wmwifirouter , touch wifi to usb button.
Battery charges while working so it doesn't kill it.
phone's ability to receive WiFi to share that connection with the computer can only be obtained if your phone allows to do so. check out the official site of your phone developrs. there will definitly be some considerations about this
Two solutions
Found two programs that do just this, both work on Windows Mobile (and unfortunately not on Symbian), but are supposed to do just what you're looking for.
ICS Control
Serial Tunnel
IF anyone figures out how to get this (converted) to run on a Symbian device... Thanks.
Anyone?
Bumping to re-ask question.
WIFI
i didt understand
ravichandrabr said:
i didt understand
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I'm looking for a program that can "Wifi to USB" on a symbian (Nokia) phone.
In other words, I want to use my phone as a wireless adapter for an old pc without wifi.
would prob get more luck asking in a symbian forum