16 channel, or 32 channel GPS - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

What's the difference?
Is anyone using 16 channel without problems?

Hey Ratzz,
Most of the time you will see less than 10 sats and even with 6 or 7 you will get accuracy less than 5m. I use a 16 channel one for TomTom (usually only seeing 7 sats) and it's never let me down yet. If you are thinking of getting it for Sat Nav then 16 channels is enough.
Gav.

My bro is using a 32 channels with a PDA TomTom.. I'm not sure if it is his PDA or the compability, but the 32 channels isnt that impressive anyway, I'm not sure if 16 channels will be the same or worst

GavinN said:
Hey Ratzz,
Most of the time you will see less than 10 sats and even with 6 or 7 you will get accuracy less than 5m. I use a 16 channel one for TomTom (usually only seeing 7 sats) and it's never let me down yet. If you are thinking of getting it for Sat Nav then 16 channels is enough.
Gav.
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Cheers Gav.

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Best rom for P3600

Hi everyone, tomorrow I will go to buy the P3600, I do not know if is better to leave the WM5 or upgrade to WM6, what would you suggest? What is the best rom? Thanks
If you take a minute or two and search the forum, you'll see this question has been asked many, many times before
yawn.....next question?
liamhere said:
yawn.....next question?
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Alright, if you're so smart, I'll give you one nobody answered to date, despite my questions in many threads:
What about a quickfix program that works for the GPS unit?
P.S. I don't really understand why nobody cares about this one, probably nobody had a SirfIII in their hand before with quick GPS running, so they can tell the difference with the P3600....
It's not that we don't care or haven't used other types of devices, i find that i get a lock within a minute or two max, by the time my GPRS or 3G connection is established & details updated i'd have a locked in GPS anyway.
ozsmac said:
It's not that we don't care or haven't used other types of devices, i find that i get a lock within a minute or two max, by the time my GPRS or 3G connection is established & details updated i'd have a locked in GPS anyway.
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Before my P3600 I had a Glofiish X.500. The quick fix took exactly 3 seconds, in the middle of Paris with tall buildings around me. In the same location, my P3600 doesn't even fix at all. I have to be out on an open square with lots of visibility to the sky, then it's 1-2 minutes.
Believe me, even though the P3600 is a lightyear advanced in terms of quality compared to the Glofiish, on the GPS side I find it extremely hard to accept even a 1 minute fix when I had 3 seconds before ! (and yes, 3 seconds, not 20 like on the P3300 which I also found slow for a Sirf III chip).
I guess that the new Glofiish X.800 is becoming a serious competitor here, with a Sirf III chip and 3 second quick fix as well.
Actually I also have an external Royaltek 2010. This one takes only 20 seconds for a cold fix, inside a car, without any quickfix software !
it isn't that bad actually. Under the same condition, it took my D810 around 2 mins to get a fix,the N95 about 4 and the 6110 Navigator,despite it being marketed as a GPS phone,7 mins.There are better GPS phones of course, but the trinity is not the worst so lets not dwell too much on it.
Skyline R34 said:
it isn't that bad actually. Under the same condition, it took my D810 around 2 mins to get a fix,the N95 about 4 and the 6110 Navigator,despite it being marketed as a GPS phone,7 mins.There are better GPS phones of course, but the trinity is not the worst so lets not dwell too much on it.
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true, but when you're in a car, driving out of a parking lot, you don't want to wait for 1-3 minutes before getting a driving direction. 3 seconds only - that's what the Glofiish X500 needs, just as fast as a warm fix.

What Level On Teeter Have You Reached?

I've been playing Teeter when I'm a bit bored and have reached Level 29.
What level have you achieved?
I love how theres only 32 levels, yet people are addmitting to playing over 41
You can EASILY tell they are lying. Teeter goes up to level 32.
I got fairly stuck on 31 and decided it wasn't worth the stress of trying to complete it since it's only a game.
I have played over 41 levels, donot know the exact number.... So 32 of original game and rest from here, extra Teeter levels, see next post.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2851032&postcount=32
I just finished 32 level, while waiting on putting winter tires, after hundreds of tries I found shortcut and finished the game, whole game takes under 40 minutes. Last level (32) is really hard. I just wonder what makes people vote they reached >32 level. Do they compensate for small penises?
I'm stuck on 30.
Da_Kem said:
I have played over 41 levels, donot know the exact number.... So 32 of original game and rest from here, extra Teeter levels, see next post.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2851032&postcount=32
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Thnx I didn't know that there were extra levels. Gonna try it
my best (to finish level 32) is a little more than 27min and about 100 tries, indeed, level 32 has a shortcut, but the first time I finished it without the shortcut.
Cool that I can create extra levels, gonna try that now
Finished from level 1 to 31 in about 20 minutes but level 32 is really tough...
YES finally managed to do it though after 3 attempts.
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Only joking
I think it must of took at the very least 50 attempts. I don't know what the shortcut is but took the long way round. Always seem to lose it on the last hurdle (last bit of the maze) which was very frustrating.
I have done them all in 20mins so far, the last level is so frustrating tho!
catinthehat said:
I have done them all in 20mins so far, the last level is so frustrating tho!
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17:46, with 8 attempts...finished all levels!
Heh i managed to pass last level(32) in one attempt. As far as I read about some shortcut, I was looking for it and I managed to use it right on first time. I know I am lucky boy
Hmmm, wheren´t 35 levels? 32? Dunno... reached several times the end. It´s easy... there should be a limit of balls to use
Da_Kem said:
I have played over 41 levels, donot know the exact number.... So 32 of original game and rest from here, extra Teeter levels, see next post.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2851032&postcount=32
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How did you succeed to install the new levels?
I tried the 2 aplications to create new levels and teeter hangs trying to load them
on my diamond i did the 32 levels for under 7 mins, using all the shortcuts there are (well they are about 3 or so )
yeah that record is real, but takes some practice
Fking1 said:
on my diamond i did the 32 levels for under 7 mins, using all the shortcuts there are (well they are about 3 or so )
yeah that record is real, but takes some practice
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my fastest on my touch pro is all 32 in 6:31 shortcuts rock
i just wish they would come out with a stable version of the extra 18 for the tp so i can beat all of them.
Level 21 and then i started to lose the will to live
finished the game but oh my god that last level looked impossible.
The true definition of luck can only pass it.

[Q] Archery Score App

Hello all.
Since I have my TP2 I thought by myself what kind of app could I really use.
I have been searching on the net for quite a while but couldn't find it.
My main sports and hobby is archery and basicly I am looking for an App where I can keep my scores, personal records etc.
Does an app like this exist already?
Normally one would say this is quite simple but in archery you have to consider the different distances and also the amount of arrows used per distance.
For example for a FITA round one shoots 90 meters, 70 meters, 50 meters and 30 meters.
Each distance has 36 arrows where on the first 2 distances one shoots 6 arrows in 1 end and on the last 2 distances one shoots 3 arrows in 1 end.
Then there are the indoor distances like 18 meters and 25 meters those distances are shot with 30 arrows with 3 arrows in 1 end.
Anyways my question is, is there already an app for this?
Freeware prefered ofcourse
Arkasius said:
Hello all.
Since I have my TP2 I thought by myself what kind of app could I really use.
I have been searching on the net for quite a while but couldn't find it.
My main sports and hobby is archery and basicly I am looking for an App where I can keep my scores, personal records etc.
Does an app like this exist already?
Normally one would say this is quite simple but in archery you have to consider the different distances and also the amount of arrows used per distance.
For example for a FITA round one shoots 90 meters, 70 meters, 50 meters and 30 meters.
Each distance has 36 arrows where on the first 2 distances one shoots 6 arrows in 1 end and on the last 2 distances one shoots 3 arrows in 1 end.
Then there are the indoor distances like 18 meters and 25 meters those distances are shot with 30 arrows with 3 arrows in 1 end.
Anyways my question is, is there already an app for this?
Freeware prefered ofcourse
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I would suggest setting up an Excel Mobile spreadsheet.
Yes there are free ones cant remember names of the ones i tried.. One that is a pay app is bowbuddy. http://www.bowbuddy.com/ and there is another i cant remember the name i used in a tourny but that worked only on my fuze sure it may have been updated by now.
There is also another one that has it all , but also one i wanted to buy helps calc ur arrows and fps etc and has software to print out a tape for your sight ready to go.. thats if you dont use pins, something like atoxonics or pivot sight.
Ill try to find it.
Edit.
Google searched:
PPC Target Results
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-ppc-target-shooting-results-calculator-v1-0.html I used this one but didnt like it.
Target:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-target-v1-2-66.html
*ASM*
http://www.archerysoftware.it/?q=en/node/35 This one is worth paying for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTG5W1o1kQE
Trajectory calc
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-trajectory-calc-v1-0.html
BTW you don't necessarily have to look for an archery app. Same concept as target shooting etc.

JI6 GPS vs other smartphones

I just got the JI6 update and the GPS is definitely much better. However, I was wondering how it matches up to the GPS on other smartphones.
Does anyone have a Nexus One or another android phone to compare it to? Could you please post some results. Only post results from the official OTA JI6 update.
I just got my OTA update this morning.
I am comparing my Vibrant with my BF's Nexus One (running Froyo 2.21) using GPS test.
The result:
Nexus views fewer satellites and locks them much faster than my vibrant on the other hand Vibrant views more satellites locks them a bit slower (Nexus : in view : 8 in use 8 instantly, VIbrant in view : 13 in use 7)
Nexus has better accuracy 9.9 feet VS. 22ish feet on vibrant.
I definitely like the gps on my vibrant much better after the OTA.
I am curious about the GPS performance test among other samsung galaxy s brethren (Captivate, Epic 4G, and Fascinate)
yea my nexus had much better GPS
and got instant lock when any app required gps location
but vibrant works perfectly fine just takes little longer
Just tested against N1 in a real life situation using C:Geo on both phones and the N1 had me rock solid on a Geocache and the Vibrant had me 15 feet off of it plus after trying to get my bearings it decided to start wondering off and I ended up in another county in 3 minutes. The N1 GPS just works and work rock solid, the Vibrants GPS is obviously not a hardware issue but a software issue. The reason I say that is because when I got the Vibrant Geocaching was a no go at all, wouldn't even lock onto enough sat's to be useful. Now at least it has me within 15 feet of my caches.
So all in all it has improved, but it is still not as good as my old N1.
Gps on the vibrant sucks. I honestly believe it's a hardware issue. JI6 update addressed a stupid software issue that prevented the gps to lock onto satellites probably due to wrong time information, but even after that, performance is really lacking.
I have a nexus one, and it gets a fix in less than 5 seconds with an accuracy of 2 m (6 feet). Once it gets a fix, it doesn't wander all over the map. It stays put.
The vabrant ( before and after JI6) doesn't get an accuracy better than 6 meters (20 ft). That's not to bad, but in google maps, it starts jumping all over the map until it settles -usually- at the farthest place from the actual location.
After JI6, the gps locks very quickly, definitely an improvement, but it it's more important the accuracy than the TTF.
In google navigation, when you stop at a red light, the inaccuracies og the gps and its constant jumping from place to place, triggers re-route after re-route. This is uncomfortable and dangerous when you are driving in an unfamiliar area.
The phone is great, but could have been better had some minimal QA been done.
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reddragon72 said:
Just tested against N1 in a real life situation using C:Geo on both phones and the N1 had me rock solid on a Geocache and the Vibrant had me 15 feet off of it plus after trying to get my bearings it decided to start wondering off and I ended up in another county in 3 minutes. The N1 GPS just works and work rock solid, the Vibrants GPS is obviously not a hardware issue but a software issue. The reason I say that is because when I got the Vibrant Geocaching was a no go at all, wouldn't even lock onto enough sat's to be useful. Now at least it has me within 15 feet of my caches.
So all in all it has improved, but it is still not as good as my old N1.
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This saddens me. I used to be able to cache almost exclusively off of my G1, unless under heavy cover.
studing
After manually flashing the updated (the OTA bricked my phone), I tested the GPS on its own, as well as side by side with my wife's G2. While JI6 allows the Vibrant to get a satellite lock in seconds, the accuracy of the GPS is virtually nonexistent, with the location bouncing all over the place. Forget about stopping at a red light - the cursor will start jumping around, sometimes placing me 2-3 blocks away from my actual location. While driving on a local highway (with a clear view of the sky), the GPS would frequently lose signal, although it would lock on again in a few seconds. Although the Vibrant can now get a satellite lock, the accuracy has not been fixed. The G2 does not suffer from these issues, reporting accuracy of 4-6 feet and getting a much quicker satellite lock than the Vibrant.
I am starting to think it is definitely a hardware issue. With GPS test I am getting locks on 9 of 10 or 10 of 12 satellites, but the bar is not very high for the signal on any satellite. Driving down the road it losses signal randomly. My G1 and HD2 had much better GPS performance.
I guess I will live with this until it is time to get another upgrade phone for the cheap price. Maybe the new Mytouch when it comes out. I have extra lines on my account just so I can get early upgrades. An extra line using the same minutes is $5 a month. It is worth it to me to keep getting new phones and selling the other phone on ebay.
Just did a side by side test with my Vibrant running Bionix 1.7 with the JI6 modem.bin vs. my wife’s brand new G2. My Vibrant instantly saw 13 satellites and took around 10 seconds to lock 11 of those 13. Initially it showed 90 ft. accuracy and after around 20-30 seconds it was bouncing between 18-25 ft. on accuracy. On my wife’s G2 as soon as I opened up GPS Test it saw 11 satellites and locked all 11. It initially showed 20 ft. on accuracy and then after 2-3 seconds it showed 12 ft. on accuracy. I watched it for about 2-3 minutes and it didn't really move as far as how many satellites it had locked or its accuracy.
Gps will never be as good as other phones lets face it, but it does the job, it haven't failed me yet since ji2 and up..... Not perfect but usable... I'd rather have a not so great gps that still works vs a n1s multi touch bug that don't get real mt......
Take the good with the bad
I just flashed the ji6 and although the GPS is improved it is far from being fixed. With my Nexus One and G2 I get a fix within 5 seconds and usually locks on all birds. With the Vibrant it takes much longer and the best it can do is 5 out of 12 birds. This GPS is a real shame as it takes a marvelous phone and makes it less than stellar IMO. I would love to use the Vibrant as my Main Phone but with the GPS still not quite right it is not happening as I use GPS everyday throughout the day/.
For those that have gotten the update, what are your GPS settings now? Is it a different server?
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Agreed with most comments already posted. The update helped to lock faster, but accuracy really sucks. Google navigation only works about 70% of the time. I find my location drifting to side streets quite often which keeps triggering re-routes all the time. I lose lock randomly (although it does regain lock fairly quickly).
Overall, compared to all other android smart phones I've used, the accuracy/reliability of gps is horrible.
I've also lost all hope in a software fix. With all the press it got and the two plus months to release a fix with marginal improvement...means one of two things.
1-samsung software engineers suck or
2-its a hardware issue and they've done the best they can with software to optimize the broken hardware.
Although both may be true to some degree ... I think we are dealing with case #2...
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Roomates Nexus one sees 7 satellites, 10 seconds lock.
My vibrant JI6 sees 9 satellites, 4.5 minute lock
GPS is no worse than the other phones I currently have access to.
Google Maps doesn't jump around like Google Navigation. Google needs to implement smoothing software into their navigation program. Copliot works great with JI6 and Google Navigation gets Parkinson's disease at stop lights. Like I said, same place and Google Maps shows me as stationary while Google Navigation is all over the place
heygrl said:
GPS is no worse than the other phones I currently have access to.
Google Maps doesn't jump around like Google Navigation. Google needs to implement smoothing software into their navigation program. Copliot works great with JI6 and Google Navigation gets Parkinson's disease at stop lights. Like I said, same place and Google Maps shows me as stationary while Google Navigation is all over the place
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Agreed. With CoPilot it works perfect. I havnt noticed any jumping around at all. The only problem I have had with the GPS since JI6 is that it sometimes takes 3-5 minutes to get a lock on my location.
Try to delete your GPS Data and make sure it's all stock under lbstestmode. I get locks fairly quickly.
kgbkny said:
While JI6 allows the Vibrant to get a satellite lock in seconds, the accuracy of the GPS is virtually nonexistent, with the location bouncing all over the place. Forget about stopping at a red light - the cursor will start jumping around, sometimes placing me 2-3 blocks away from my actual location. While driving on a local highway (with a clear view of the sky), the GPS would frequently lose signal, although it would lock on again in a few seconds. Although the Vibrant can now get a satellite lock, the accuracy has not been fixed.
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I got the identical behavior last night. Is the GPS that flawed that it thinks it's moving when it's not? If they could at least have the software not move the pointer when you're standing still that would likely make a huge difference. Instead it moves you onto another street and starts speaking out "corrections".

what are your gps test results

GPS TEST BY CHARTCROSS
IN VIEW 12
IN USE 10
ACCURACY 15 to 20
ALL RESULTS AFTER HARDWARE FIX
TMOBILE SAMSUNG VIBRANT
Running Bionix 1.3.2 no other mods.
This is the best mine could do. So what's the record for most accurate?
Ya i don't know i'm using the golflogix app and i need it to be 5 feet or less
sitting in my living room (on the other side of the room from the window), 10 in view, 7 locked, accuracy is 46ft. it would probably be better if I went outside
running bi-winning in my living room (google maps has me across the street)
I've done the hardware fix, but the best accuracy I ever get is 20-23 ft on a good day. Usually have 7-9 out of 10-12 satellites in use. Running latest stock 2.2 from Odin.
Not great, but it works for my needs.
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Garmin typically specifies the accuracy of their GPS devices to be within 15 meters. You will NEVER fall below 10 feet of error without a WAAS enabled GPS (WAAS is only available in North America).
15 - 20 foot accuracy with a consumer GPS device is considered excellent from a technical capability standpoint.
Anyone expecting better than that is ignorant of the capability of the GPS system as a whole.
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