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Unboxing Xperia X1

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What do you think folks? isnt this the ultimate phone we've been waiting for all these years?

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One thing I don't like is how when you're flipping through the panels you HAVE to select one. You can't flip through them in that format, then lift your finger and not pick it. Also, very laggy on the screen rotation in panel mode. Graphics accelerator, 384MB ram? Maybe it'll need all of it just to rotate the screen. Really lame, one of the "benefits" to this was going to be that it eats less memory than TF3D... Seems to eat more.
Overall, once they work out some issues, it'll be a good phone. The phone of the future? Maybe... Not my future, but it'll compete with some of the best.

That site has been viewed by a lot of people in the last few days - with regards to performance issues I think it is stated that he had a pre-release version. I believe newer roms have made it snappier (from what I have read)

yup i agreed, its still laggy on screen rotation in panels mode. but switching from one ponales to the other is so fast!
and of course it eats alot of memory than TFL3D, it has 8 active desktop and all running on the background! What makes you think they boost the RAM to 384MB?
hell, it would even be funny to see TFL3D/ manila 2D running as one of Xperia panels and still keep the speed

thats a prototype

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FunkyMike said:
thats a prototype
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... with 256 MB RAM...

Already had posted this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431573
Definitely a prototype model.
C'mon!!! Let there be final device's reviews!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ronka said:
yup i agreed, its still laggy on screen rotation in panels mode. but switching from one ponales to the other is so fast!
and of course it eats alot of memory than TFL3D, it has 8 active desktop and all running on the background! What makes you think they boost the RAM to 384MB?
hell, it would even be funny to see TFL3D/ manila 2D running as one of Xperia panels and still keep the speed
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Umm, not all of the panels are running applications... It's not the same as having 9 programs open simultaneously, like you guys make it out to be.

Yay

Black93300ZX said:
Yay
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why a Yay? it's an old review from over a week back... prototype model AGAIN.

Can't wait for a real unboxing.

For the first time ever, I can't wait as well. not because of the phone, i know everything unboxing could tell me. i just want to know what the heck there will be in the box besides the phone! will there be a case or a memory card or a headset...? Noone's never said anything about that, but I'd like to know how much additional cost i can expect provided i go with x1.

Jabe said:
For the first time ever, I can't wait as well. not because of the phone, i know everything unboxing could tell me. i just want to know what the heck there will be in the box besides the phone! will there be a case or a memory card or a headset...? Noone's never said anything about that, but I'd like to know how much additional cost i can expect provided i go with x1.
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My bet is on a small microSD card, a wired headset and a CD

Insaneboy said:
My bet is on a small microSD card, a wired headset and a CD
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Seems likely... but they might include a case too, you never know.

msalmank said:
why a Yay? it's an old review from over a week back... prototype model AGAIN.
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lolz "OH MY GOD ITS A WEEK OLD"
I'm sure they've totally reconstructed everything about the device in the last week!

They upped the RAM to 384, that sounds like reconstruction to me.

Kloc said:
They upped the RAM to 384, that sounds like reconstruction to me.
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Oh yeah? Hm. That video was from September 25th, and on September 26th it was posted on Xperiancers saying there was 384MB RAM... Are you sure that version didn't have it? You're not? Okay then. Notice they didn't say "The device will have", they said "The device has"...
"• Questions re: the speed etc… The device has a graphics accelerator, a 528 Mhz processor and 384 megs of ram (so it should be as fast as anything else that is out there.)"
So I'm glad to know you're 100% sure the version on video 1 day earlier didn't have 384 megs of ram.
And wow, I'm gonna call major BS on what they said here on Xperiancers:
"• How big is the battery and how long does it last? The battery is a 1500mAh unit (about 10% bigger than, for example, the touch pro). How long it lasts depends very much on how much you use the phone. Even in the worst case scenario, with all the features turned on (GPS, internet, applications etc…) and heavy usage, it will last all day and need to be charged over night."
Really? GPS and WiFi, WORST case scenario, using everything, you can't kill the battery in less than a day? BULL****.

Haha chill out there buddy. But you missed one assumption. You assumed because that video is posted on the 25th that they have the newest phone version. As you can see here right in the review they say it's difficult to say how far they are from the final version. Now why would they say that if they got it a day before the release?
"This is a prototype, we were advised that we do not run into any big test that before we start selling a lot more changes. There are several things that at this X1 does not work at all (like GPS), or do not work optimally. It is difficult to say how far we are from the final version, it is clear that the work on the software, therefore, prefer to avoid the assessment of speed or function at all. "
And another quote to back me up.
"With the speed of the animation of the prototype would be worse, but what can be seen in the accompanying video is one of the things that are in the final Xperiích significantly improved (see video at the:: unwired). "
The unwired video was posted on the 15th. Now if it was posted on the 15th why would there 1 day old phone be significantly improved 14 days earlier?

Black93300ZX said:
lolz "OH MY GOD ITS A WEEK OLD"
I'm sure they've totally reconstructed everything about the device in the last week!
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The video was posted over a week ago, but does not account for the prototype... and as far as i know, no prototypes were released with the full 384 Mb...

msalmank said:
The video was posted over a week ago, but does not account for the prototype... and as far as i know, no prototypes were released with the full 384 Mb...
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How would they test it and know it works? Do you mean to tell me you expect them to completely revamp the hardware of the device and release it as-is, with no beta testing? If that's the case, I'm REALLY worried about their quality control now.

G-Sensor games?

Hello! Any recommendations for G-Sensor games? I like the teeter game that comes with the phone, but would love a few more. Free or pay, whichever.
Thanks!
Jamie

Games
Need For Speed Undercover, Resco Snake, PDA Bowling, Extrakt and Shoot Me if a fun app to play around with using G-Sensor I have about 75 games but I know only these with G-Sensor...Would be glad myself to find out if there are more

Ballrush Aqua, Marble Worlds 2 are two more...
I like Teeter as well, but I cannot get past the damn last level.

I have also Asphalt 4 elite racing hd from gameloft.

khaytsus said:
Ballrush Aqua, Marble Worlds 2 are two more...
I like Teeter as well, but I cannot get past the damn last level.
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I just had to post... after 459 tries I got past the last level! I thought it would have been something special like when mario saves the princess but it wasnt. It was quite the disappointment

automechnic077 said:
I just had to post... after 459 tries I got past the last level! I thought it would have been something special like when mario saves the princess but it wasnt. It was quite the disappointment
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Yeah, I think I gave up 430 times before you.. I've gotten sooo close a few times but there's just no 'resting', you have to keep perfect controlled movement the whole time on that one.

khaytsus said:
Yeah, I think I gave up 430 times before you.. I've gotten sooo close a few times but there's just no 'resting', you have to keep perfect controlled movement the whole time on that one.
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woot makes mine feel better, i got 50 in total with like 30 minutes in total
but yeah asphalt 4 is a fun gsensor game as stated before

Hi
sorry but i can't find those game, where can i find them?

khaytsus said:
Yeah, I think I gave up 430 times before you.. I've gotten sooo close a few times but there's just no 'resting', you have to keep perfect controlled movement the whole time on that one.
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Actually it a bit more easier than some previous level for me. Did it after 50+ try
Hint: Next to the L shape where you can rest the ball, there is a big gap between the holes. Once you got through the gap the ball should be at the bottom on the screen and no more holes to stop you.

Guys, this is not a place to chat. PM each other or join a blog about that game. This thread is intended for listing G-Sensor games...Now, bellow you can find my G-Sensor games. Requested by @Stisse

anymore interesting g-sensor games...=)

Prince of persia HD WVGA 201 GSENSOR SUPPORT
Requirements: 6.1 ABOVE

i know it's not a g-sensor game but i've been looking for a game from iphone called "blue block", similiar to a wm game called "rushhour" instead of cars it's blocks but that doesn't support wvga phones...
anyone know if there is an app for this?

Robo defence , odd question

How high do the levels go ?
I'm on level 80
I've heard story's of folk being level 1000

Is it a game or what?

http://androidandme.com/2009/05/reviews/robo-defense-120-levels-of-tower-defense-madness/
google is a wonderful thing

hi!
i play to with robot defence. I was on level 120 but i do a wipe for instal defrost and i forgot to save my progression on robot defence. I do not have courage to start again. I do not know if it is possible but can you give me your sauvgarde?
tkx

So is there an all round cap at 120? Takes some time getting that high though I should imagine
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i like this game although i wish they add more weapons

Bloody stuck on level 2.
Planes n stuff wipe me out no matter how many surface to air misiles I get.
More practice needed, me thinks.

The Equalizer said:
Bloody stuck on level 2.
Planes n stuff wipe me out no matter how many surface to air misiles I get.
More practice needed, me thinks.
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Spend Reward points !!.. get more powerful weapons!
I'm now on level 125... and still climbing .... I'll put my save file on here .. but how do I know the folk who say they have reached that far really have ???mmm
I will reach level 1000 !!!! LOL if it's there !!

Your absolutely right dgattenb.
I wondered what the point of all those points were.
lol, That explains a lot. lol
I'm up to level 2.....WooHoo

from what i understand, there is no limit to the levels. I remember hearing people complaining about that on the official blog for the site, dont have the exact link to the post but the blog is here: Robo Defense

alienwolf426 said:
from what i understand, there is no limit to the levels. I remember hearing people complaining about that on the official blog for the site, dont have the exact link to the post but the blog is here: Robo Defense
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Unlimited reward upgrades
Unlimited difficulty levels
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!... I'll be in my 80's playing this...I'm on level 20 000 .. then my phone will fail .... ( 42 years time BTW !! )

With these unlimited levels etc, does the game get that little bit harder with each level?

only 5.9gb useable?

just recieved my new handset, excellent bit of kist, very impressed
just connected to the pc via zune to see only 5.9gb is available as useable space? is this the norm?
i expected about 7 after the operating system but not under 6

ascottuk said:
just recieved my new handset, excellent bit of kist, very impressed
just connected to the pc via zune to see only 5.9gb is available as useable space? is this the norm?
i expected about 7 after the operating system but not under 6
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I think mine started with 6.8-ish free. It's a T-Mobile one.

ascottuk said:
just recieved my new handset, excellent bit of kist, very impressed
just connected to the pc via zune to see only 5.9gb is available as useable space? is this the norm?
i expected about 7 after the operating system but not under 6
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That's because it automatically has 5% reserved for phone content. Emails, photos, office docs, apps you want to download on the go etc. You can increase of decrease this amount in the zune settings. It's not really needed as you don't need any reserved space to do any of the above but it just acts like a buffer.

well i just spent the whole weekend converting all my MP3's from 256, to 128 bit rate, and i was suprised just how much space that has saved, i can live with the difference in audio quality,
one thing i will never advise is if you have over 400 albums to do this, its pain staking!
lol, anyway im happy with the phone, 600 songs on it and still 3gb ish left over!

at45 said:
I think mine started with 6.8-ish free. It's a T-Mobile one.
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Yeah, mine was about the same available space. It's more than enough for me

Yeah, just drop it down to 0% reserved and it still gives it around 600mb for all the apps/emails/pics ect, and leaves 6.5+GB for whatever else. I Sync daily whenever i'm charging and it takes them off the phone and syncs to online storage/skydrive ect so i can view pictures wherever in a browser. *love that feature*

I had a similar problem. I wiped and set it to 0% and it reserved 800MB. It's still sat at 0% but now it has reserved 1.4GB!
It's pretty bad that I have no way of reducing the reserved space. I can't set it less than 0%...

That is strange. Guessing you don't have over a GB of e-mails or pics or apps as apps/e-mail/pics ignore the reserved space i thought if needed and gos over the reserved space anyway.

Messing around with my phone today, seems to be Games that are using the reserved space, really annoying that they label it so oddly.
Based my findings on not being able to copy media to the phone as I was out of space, resetting everything I could find and no change but then eventually deinstalled some of my games and low and behold suddenly more storage was available.
Think I cocked up getting an 8Gb Omnia, thought it was 16Gb when I bought it but was my mistake so not much I can do.
Ho hum....
Think this OS has a real future but really depends on how MS approach the next update. If they lock it down and ignore feedback it ain't going anywhere, if they open it up a bit and listen to feedback they could get the stability that is missing from Android and add some real kick ass performance and functionality. MS - are you listening.....?

WP7 is new, and as i have said before i think cost is the issue, this phone has SAMOLED, 1ghz, *buckets of ram*, these are amazing devices you shouldn't mix up quaility with quantity.... this phone of the WP7 range is the only Nand style storage and is the way forward as it's getting large enough in a small enough space, but it's expencive for these devices *HTC took the cheap route as they know what "most" people want, even i love htc, but nand does it for me, 16 sec game load times, vs 40+ htc on SD storage*. Give it a while and cost will come down and storage will go up, This first wave of phones are built around the Zune function mainly for content. *delete, redownload. whay* no having to keep songs anymore on the device. 3G downloads, 2 min, got it again *fasttttt ziiiiiiip woooooolop*
Someone pose as Stephen Fry on the board and they will listen
But MS will i think listen this time as even him above said himself. "If MS listen they will go far this time around..."
So there is allot! of eyes on this one... and MS future image is at stake now i think so this isn't going to be a light battle from here out, There is LOTS of choices now, and between the heads of these corps a good few years of creative "fun" change is on the cards i'm guessing

Few questions regarding this phone and performance.

I've read many reviews and watched dozens regarding the performance of this phone but I wanted to get some real user experiences. I'm planning to upgrade to this from my G3 which is hands down the worst phone I've ever had. So far, this phone looks promising but I wanted to know how it performs. My G3 lags really really bad and overheats to 95c+ which led to me having to downclock it. How does the XStyle (Pure) perform? Does the phone lag when multi tasking? How hot does the CPU get? Does it throttle? I don't really care for battery life as I'm never too far from a charger.
I'd really appreciate some answers to my questions as my current phone is really getting on my last nerves.
Thanks.

95c+ ??????????? 95 degrees centigrade is equal to 203 degrees Fahrenheit!
Water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit.

The hottest my phone has gotten is during initial setup, when it was downloading all the apps and I was setting them all up... That was about 117f (47c). It did it again right after I flashed TWRP and did my first Nandroid. But normal use, I haven't noticed it over 107f (41c), but I don't play games or do anything real intense on it. Just music and videos for the most part. My M9 got around that temp and ran that way more often with the same basic task.
I don't notice any real lag...There are some quirks that it has that will hopefully get worked out with an update. By "quirks" I mean the slight glitch when you rotate the phone 180 degrees while listening to music....That's the stereo separation swapping sides. I also noticed a slight glitch when listening to music stored on my SD card too, about every 4th or 5th song it will just do a real short "glitch" or "pause" like it's trying to catch up. I've tried a few other, class 10, SD cards and they all seem to do it for some reason? Not a big deal for me, but if I was playing them for people it might bother me a little.
I've read where people said Chrome was laggy, but coming from an HTC M9, I really don't notice anything that bothers me.
As for throttling, I haven't noticed any.....But I haven't gotten it hot enough for long periods at a time for it to do any (if it does).

I've been using mine for about a week and a half and the performance is great. I play a lot of Hearthstone on the phone and it's really smooth even with Facebook chats overlayed on it. My phone gets to mid 90's sometimes. It happened a lot the first few days, but has even out after that.

jaseman said:
95c+ ??????????? 95 degrees centigrade is equal to 203 degrees Fahrenheit!
Water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit.
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Yep. The phone shuts down after reaching 96c. I saw the high temperature warning way too many times before I downclocked.
tele_jas said:
The hottest my phone has gotten is during initial setup, when it was downloading all the apps and I was setting them all up... That was about 117f (47c). It did it again right after I flashed TWRP and did my first Nandroid. But normal use, I haven't noticed it over 107f (41c), but I don't play games or do anything real intense on it. Just music and videos for the most part. My M9 got around that temp and ran that way more often with the same basic task.
I don't notice any real lag...There are some quirks that it has that will hopefully get worked out with an update. By "quirks" I mean the slight glitch when you rotate the phone 180 degrees while listening to music....That's the stereo separation swapping sides. I also noticed a slight glitch when listening to music stored on my SD card too, about every 4th or 5th song it will just do a real short "glitch" or "pause" like it's trying to catch up. I've tried a few other, class 10, SD cards and they all seem to do it for some reason? Not a big deal for me, but if I was playing them for people it might bother me a little.
I've read where people said Chrome was laggy, but coming from an HTC M9, I really don't notice anything that bothers me.
As for throttling, I haven't noticed any.....But I haven't gotten it hot enough for long periods at a time for it to do any (if it does).
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Thanks for the reply, your post made me more confident in choosing this phone to replace my g3.
SkuzeeII said:
I've been using mine for about a week and a half and the performance is great. I play a lot of Hearthstone on the phone and it's really smooth even with Facebook chats overlayed on it. My phone gets to mid 90's sometimes. It happened a lot the first few days, but has even out after that.
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Mid 90 Celsius?

Fahim92 said:
Yep. The phone shuts down after reaching 96c. I saw the high temperature warning way too many times before I downclocked.
Thanks for the reply, your post made me more confident in choosing this phone to replace my g3.
Mid 90 Celsius?
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YOU, fahim, mean fahrenheit.

I had LG G3 prior to MPXE and it never got this hot. I did however applied thermal paste. Anyways, MPXE is a good phone, definitely run cooler than G3. Its heavier and bigger than G3. Battery life is on par with G3. I find brightness and colors much better than G3.you won't regret this phone.

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YOU, fahim, mean fahrenheit.
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No, I know the difference and it is most definitely reaching upwards of 90 Celsius. Here's proof - http://imgur.com/a/OlrGP I've used other temperature monitoring apps and they all show the same, even CPU-Z.

Thanks for the replies everyone. I appreciate it a lot

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I had LG G3 prior to MPXE and it never got this hot. I did however applied thermal paste. Anyways, MPXE is a good phone, definitely run cooler than G3. Its heavier and bigger than G3. Battery life is on par with G3. I find brightness and colors much better than G3.you won't regret this phone.
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Thanks for the reply, mate. I'm definitely gonna place an order for this phone soon!

One last thing before I order it. I know that KitKat had removed the ability to be able to completely use the memory card, I.e, downloading stuff onto memory card. Has lollipop fixed that? I had to root my G3 and install a SD card fix in order to download torrents onto it as I mainly download on my phone now. Would I have to do the same with the Moto X?