Data usage charges when sending MMS - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

hi all,
i have a T-Mobile MDA Vario 2 on the Flext 30 package.
PROBLEM:
my phone is set on the GSM network and not the 3G network.
each time i sent a MMS message (should be free under my flex price plan) i get charged 0.001p and 0.005p per message i send.
it logs these charges as internet usage.
all i am doing is sending an mms. i have not change any setting on the phones therfore the phone is using the default tmobile settings.
this has gone back and forth between me and T-mobile since i have got the phone and they are convinced i am using the web on my phone (not the case) to the extent i have gone to a t-mobile shop and asked the guy there to send an MMS whilst onto t-mobile CS to prove i am not accesing the web.
the problem has now been passed on to T-Mobiles GPRS supplier.
i was wondering if anyone else has seen this behaviour.

I think company treats it as a data transfer so dats y they r charging coz when u surf the web then also it is treated as the data transfer still u wld b clarified by ur network provider .

the way it normally works in the UK is that you are charged a flat rate for an MMS message regardless of connection (i belive) this charge is covered under the Flext plan hance as long as you have available credit on your Flext price plan you pay nothing for the MMS.
i am paying nothing for the actuall MMS it just seems to add 0.5pence worth of data usage each time i sent or recieve an MMS.
the data usage is timed at exactly the time i sent the MMS to 1 min later. so i assume its something to do with connecting disconecting to the T-Mobile internet when its about to send the message

Hi, I have Cingular...so it might be different, but I expect they treat MMS the same way, which is yes you will get charged for data useage.
Example to send a MMS with Cingular you go through [email protected] and anything sent through that is data useage.

sajedh said:
so i assume its something to do with connecting disconecting to the T-Mobile internet when its about to send the message
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Actually it is counting as a data transfer

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Has anyone been able to receive MMS messages on the iMATE XDA 2 through T-Mobile USA yet?
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whats the difference between mms and sms?
SMS = Short Message Service, 160 characters max, text only
MMS = Multimedia Messaging Service, rich media content such as images, video and audio
maybe you have to active the "receive-mms"-feature on your phoneaccount to receive mms messages. Normaly the receive mms funktion is off, because not every phone can receive them
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AleX
SMS runs over GSM
MMS runs over GPRS
MMS need to be switch to delivery directly to the phone by the service provider. However some service providers (mine is one as it happens) have not updated their system yet to allow both MMS and GPRS web/data services at the same time.
I'm stilling to the data services as I can still send any pictures I take via email.
i'm still waiting on the guy to reply who claims he gets unlimited gprs for $20/month from his provider in the US. Any know how who offers this?
T-Mobile offers $19.99 unlimited internet if you have a phone number with them. It's $29.99 alone without voice plan.
kevincw01:
You can find more info on T-Mobile website or HowardForums.
http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=52
sweet, i can get this on top of the 19.99 for unlimited wifi in all starbucks and i'm set...i think ill wait till i graduate with my cs degree this dec and get a job.
TMO has an unlimited internet + hotspots (t1 line) for under $30, i think
holy...gawd i love tmobile. My ATT to Tmobile move just keeps getting better.

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windows mobile can only send mms over data!!!
my o2 sets two data connections, one for data and one for mms. If i just turn off all data, i cant send mms, but if i use something like 'dialup enabler/disabler' i can turn off one or both of these, hence i can turn off only the actual data connection and leave the mms connection on.
samsamuel said:
my o2 sets two data connections, one for data and one for mms. If i just turn off all data, i cant send mms, but if i use something like 'dialup enabler/disabler' i can turn off one or both of these, hence i can turn off only the actual data connection and leave the mms connection on.
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Yes, and tmobile (US) is the same way...you can use MMS (as long as it's on the plan) even if you don't have any other data provisioned on the line.
EDIT: barronedson, I would suggest calling AT&T and asking what settings you need when you want to send MMS without a data plan, if no other members here have any suggestions.

MMS question, free or not? read body before answering please

i'm on tmobile. i have 1000 minutes talk, UNLIMITED text, but NO data plan. if i send multimedia messages (MMS). do i get charged for data? people told me you either need wifi or data on in order to send mms. however, they also said that the MMS uses a different server from internet data. so if i send MMS, would i still get charged for data plan since it requires, even though i have unlimited text plan?
MMS uses data AFAIK.
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mk92595 said:
MMS uses data AFAIK.
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yes i know, as i've said in the body of my post, i know it uses data. but people said it uses a different or protocol server from the internet data. so would i still be charged as if it was internet data? or even though it uses data, since it's different from internet data, i won't get any charges?
MMS requires data as you said. The plan you have though could specify free SMS/MMS without you having access to the internet. MMS uses a local server on the network you are on so it wont work over WIFI and it doesn't use the internet.
With that said though, it all depends on your plan. There are some prepaid carriers that offer cheap plans with NO internet but still included unlimited SMS and MMS because internet is not a requirement for MMS. Your phone obviously does need a data connection to their servers but that doesn't count.
I don't see that 1000 minute plan on the T-Mobile site but even their 500 Talk and Text plan includes MMS and it does NOT include any internet.

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