Hello all I have a HTC/Fuze (Raphael) with AT&T and can access the web just fine. I however did not get a data plan on the the phone..just an unlimited text to talk family plan. This is an offered plan in case you do not want a data plan. My question is how can you tell if you are using your wifi to access the internet and not the att network. I don't want to be charged for using the internet (since i have no data plan)...I went to the att store yesterday and they told me I can still get charged for using their network to access the net even though I have no data plan... can anyone help me with this question?
Thanks.
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Hello all I have a HTC/Fuze (Raphael) with AT&T and can access the web just fine. I however did not get a data plan on the the phone..just an unlimited text to talk family plan. This is an offered plan in case you do not want a data plan. My question is how can you tell if you are using your wifi to access the internet and not the att network. I don't want to be charged for using the internet (since i have no data plan)...I went to the att store yesterday and they told me I can still get charged for using their network to access the net even though I have no data plan... can anyone help me with this question?
Thanks.
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you need to use the HTC data connection application. you should be able to totally disallow any internet connection.
I am using an Orbit 2 on O2 UK, when wifi is connected it will only use it until disconnected or out of range, then reverts back to 3G.
You will know when it reverts back because the speed of the internet will slow significantly.
I completely disable/delete the medianet and AT&T ISP profiles so that it doesn't ever connect over 3G.
I have the same setup as you (but with a Tilt, no data plan). Download Modaco No Data cab, install and disable the ISP (the first option). This will turn off data usage but still allow you to send and recieve text and MMS.
Hey guys... a quick question. I've set up my P4350 according to T-Mo's instructions to send and receive mms. It works, but my service bars have an "E" above them, of course meaning im using edge. My question is, does this mean I'm being charged for internet also? i only have the family unlimited messages plan... ty in advance.
this is the process i used... http://tmobileuspublic.wdsglobal.co...ufacturerId=9&mobileNumber=&incomingServerId=
Not exactly
No it doesn't mean your being charged, because i have unlimited evrything and I have an E. But, usally if you get a smartphone( maybe just in New Orleans) they make you have to get the unlimited internet services. But, check your plan so you don't have to curse tmobile out and best of luck. Also ulimited messaging just means text messaging.
I have been using my new mytouch without a data plan for about a week now. I had data when I activated the phone (didn't sign up for it, but was able to connect), but they have since blocked it. Everything works fine without a data plan except for one thing - MMS. MMS is not working for me now, and I suspect its because I don't have a data plan. I tried changing around APN settings, but haven't managed to find a combination that works. Anyone have any ideas on work around?
So that is weird because technically, without data, you should only get mms / sms and phone.
mms uses the data connection
MMS messages need the data connection to work. SMS messages should work without a data connection since they are transmitted over the signaling portion of the cell channel.
Without the data plan MMS will not work.
Why then did MMS work on my T-Mobile Dash without a data plan?
Dash was a different phone
Windows Mobile on the dash handled data differently than the android software, plus the network systems have been changed to recognize data phones and require the correct data plans.
The Dash was not supposed to get MMS without a data plan but it worked as long as you could connect to T-zones.
Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
yea i had the same thing the data worked over 3g for about a day. u can buy the phone form walmart and u will not have to to get the 24.99 data plan i just told them i have it on another line.
So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
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So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
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to view MMS without a data plan? No cuz an unlocked phone only allows you to use the phone with other carriers.
is there anyway to activate it without dataplan simcard....? with wifi same like g1
I think that myTouch "need" simcard with data plan to activate it. only wifi is impossible to activate.
However, I've another question. Is it possible to use this phone when I have no Internet conneciton (wifi/2G/3G)? I just need to use if for making a call.
yes. if your mytouch 3g is alrady activated (needs sim cardwith data plan for that), you can SMS and make phonecalls and check voicemail (visual voicemail does need data tho) without any data connection, just like normal cellphones.
OK folks. For those of you that missed it. The My Touch has to be activated using a sim card with a data plan attached. Once that is done, you don't need data. MMS on the MyTouch runs through the data portion of the network. Yot car root the phone, load up a different recovery image like Cyanogen or Amon ra's, and no more need to activate that handheld again. As for MMS, no fix for that. You have to have data to send an MMS. Large text, Picture, Or video messages will not work on a text package alone. A "large" text message is about 133 characters or more. Don't realy remember to well these days. The phone was designed around a data connection. Without it, you're gonna have issues.
Is there a List?
Is there a list of phones that MMS won't work or other features are disabled? The G1 used to not need data now T-mobile say's it does? so if I was to get a G1 without data is MMS gone? Curious about the Nokia nuron or nexus 1 is anything disabled without data?
I want to get a nice phone preferably with wifi but no data plan what is my best option a list of phones that work 100% without Data would be very cool...
Need to know my options so I can start trying to get a deal on the phone I select.
Thanks
Hurlamania
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Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
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No not really. the $10 Unlimited web for phone data plan works. Just need to tweak around the apn settings.
I have also seen some forums that included that a 5.99$ Tzone data plan also work with mytouch 3g. However it is difficult to get that plan.
After activating and sim unlocking the phone, If I ever factory data reset, would I have to activate it again with a Tmobile sim card?
Now I am confused.
I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
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I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
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Are you getting charged for data usage? AFAIK all MMS has to go over towers so that the carriers network can authenticate the phone they're are coming from, but I could be wrong.
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hey there i have another question, you see im using the NRG rom on my unlocked hd2 and i popped the prepaid/gophone att sim card in and it set everything up for me. so i could use edge to access the web and all that, and send mms messages. but since i dont want to use the data on the phone and just wifi, i turned data off , but then i cant send mms's , so i dont know if theres a way to like mess up the settings on the data settings so that it sends mms's without me having to use data. btw i have the unlimited text option that states i dont need a data plan to send mms's. thanks to anyone who can help.
windows mobile can only send mms over data!!!
my o2 sets two data connections, one for data and one for mms. If i just turn off all data, i cant send mms, but if i use something like 'dialup enabler/disabler' i can turn off one or both of these, hence i can turn off only the actual data connection and leave the mms connection on.
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my o2 sets two data connections, one for data and one for mms. If i just turn off all data, i cant send mms, but if i use something like 'dialup enabler/disabler' i can turn off one or both of these, hence i can turn off only the actual data connection and leave the mms connection on.
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Yes, and tmobile (US) is the same way...you can use MMS (as long as it's on the plan) even if you don't have any other data provisioned on the line.
EDIT: barronedson, I would suggest calling AT&T and asking what settings you need when you want to send MMS without a data plan, if no other members here have any suggestions.
Hey guys i just got a atrix 4g unlocked for tmobile running cm7. I do not have a data plan but i do have unlimited messaging. is there any apn setting out there that allows me to send and recieve just mms and no data other than that. how would i go about configuring my phone to do so? i would really appreciate the help. its really annoying having to toggle the data on and off whenever i recieve a picture message.
You could just call tmobilr and have them disable the data. Then no overage and no toggling every 10 seconds
so that wont shut off all my data? because i know you need to have data enabled on the phone in order to download the mms.
They wont charge you for data use on mms if you deny data at all. They will make the phone a calling/mms/SMS only then. Wifi would be your phones new friend.