Hello all I have a HTC/Fuze (Raphael) with AT&T and can access the web just fine. I however did not get a data plan on the the phone..just an unlimited text to talk family plan. This is an offered plan in case you do not want a data plan. My question is how can you tell if you are using your wifi to access the internet and not the att network. I don't want to be charged for using the internet (since i have no data plan)...I went to the att store yesterday and they told me I can still get charged for using their network to access the net even though I have no data plan... can anyone help me with this question?
Thanks.
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Hello all I have a HTC/Fuze (Raphael) with AT&T and can access the web just fine. I however did not get a data plan on the the phone..just an unlimited text to talk family plan. This is an offered plan in case you do not want a data plan. My question is how can you tell if you are using your wifi to access the internet and not the att network. I don't want to be charged for using the internet (since i have no data plan)...I went to the att store yesterday and they told me I can still get charged for using their network to access the net even though I have no data plan... can anyone help me with this question?
Thanks.
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you need to use the HTC data connection application. you should be able to totally disallow any internet connection.
I am using an Orbit 2 on O2 UK, when wifi is connected it will only use it until disconnected or out of range, then reverts back to 3G.
You will know when it reverts back because the speed of the internet will slow significantly.
I completely disable/delete the medianet and AT&T ISP profiles so that it doesn't ever connect over 3G.
I have the same setup as you (but with a Tilt, no data plan). Download Modaco No Data cab, install and disable the ISP (the first option). This will turn off data usage but still allow you to send and recieve text and MMS.
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My phone was connected to GPRS for 30 mins... Is that the medianet connection? I only have the 5mb Medianet program. Could I go online whenever I want without extra charge?
I'm not with Cingular, but i'm assuming that Medianet is what the GPRS connection is called.
And depending what type of usage you will be doing with your 8125 and what programs you have installed that automatically connect, 5mb might not be enough and you'll end up with additional charges on your bill.
If you plan on surfing the web via Medianet?gprs, get your emails sent to your device etc...i recommend getting more than 5 mb.
There are some registry hacks that would allow you to disble GPRS connecting at all...but to be able to do that, you will need to do some research and get to know your phone a lil better before you go and try to play around with Registry settings
Cingular MediaNet
GPRS and Edge are Cingular's MediaNet
I'm just planning to surf the internet with my 5mb. So it wouldn't be enough? What about the MMS. I have unlimted but in order to open them I have to get on medianet when I'm on wifi I can't download them.
I feel your pain... I have Cingular too and well 5MB is enough for a smartphone web-browser, but for a PDA-phone like the Wizard (8125) even with VERY light browsing and e-mail you're going to pass that by in about 2 weeks. I recommend going with one of Cingular's PDA connect plans the 20MB should be enough. I have the unlimited plan because 1: they gave me a phone discount for having it and 2: because I've gon over 100MB already and I've only had the phone for a week and a half ^_^ By the way about that MMS issue. I don't think that you get charged for the raw data transfer on MMS they just charge per message and since you have the unlimited MMS plan you shouldn't be charged at all for them. I used to have a Motorola Mpx220 witht the exact same plan that you have and I don't think that's changed at all. Hope that helps ^_^
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unless you need vpn, just upgrade your medianet to unlimited and don't breathe a word about pda connect or they may switch you without your asking (and medianet unlimited is 20 cheaper than pda unlimited)
ask for a Media Net Unlimited plan which is 19.99 and add a text message plan of your likeing. I have 1000 for 9.99. Media Net is for smartphones, but if you get the *right* representative that wont know any better
I have the Cingular 2125 (smartphone) now with the unlimited data plan for it ($19.99). I just purchased a 8125 PPC, will I still be able to have unlimited internet acces on the 8125 for my current $19.99?
I Unlocked my 8125 for cingular so i could use my t-mobile sim in it.... I got it to unlock with no problem.... My Frined who works for t-mobile told me that my internet would not work with it unless i got it flashed.... COuld Any1 Help Me It would be greatly appreciated!!!!
Bump? Any1 I Cant Go Online with my unlock wizard when i use a differnt sim besides the original carrier sim?
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Bump? Any1 I Cant Go Online with my unlock wizard when i use a differnt sim besides the original carrier sim?
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If the SIM works for phone calls it should work for data. Provided of course you actually have a data plan with t-mobile and the correct settings in your connection settings.
I had the t-mobile sidekick unlimited plan.... and i called trying to see what was wrong and they said the sidekick plan only worked on a sidekick.... So for it to work on the 8125 i would have to get unlimited internet whice for 29.99... and i was paying 20.0 a month for unlimited internet email aim so what should i do unlimtied text itself is 14.99
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I had the t-mobile sidekick unlimited plan.... and i called trying to see what was wrong and they said the sidekick plan only worked on a sidekick.... So for it to work on the 8125 i would have to get unlimited internet whice for 29.99... and i was paying 20.0 a month for unlimited internet email aim so what should i do unlimtied text itself is 14.99
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I guess it depends what you want to use it for - True internet which means the 29.99 plan, some people have had some joy with the blackberry plan though I have recently had to change because T-Mobile appears to be cutting people off using that on the MDA/8125. If you pick the internet plan then you can use a messaging program which uses GPRS to send messages rather than the crappy text messaging (sms) product that comes with the MDA/8125.
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I guess it depends what you want to use it for - True internet which means the 29.99 plan, some people have had some joy with the blackberry plan though I have recently had to change because T-Mobile appears to be cutting people off using that on the MDA/8125. If you pick the internet plan then you can use a messaging program which uses GPRS to send messages rather than the crappy text messaging (sms) product that comes with the MDA/8125.
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Can any confirm or deny if T-mo is cutting users with the BB plan off or making them switch to the $30/month plan? Also, has anyone tried using the $5.99 "T-mobile Web" data plan with their MDA/8125? Does it function just like a normal GPRS connection or does the portal limit ports (i.e. AIM ports for chatting). Thanks.
I just switched from t-mobiles Sidekick Lx to this Wing, and i was wondering if there was anyway i can get the internet to work on this phone. thanks.
Yes jsut call T-Mobile and ask for the data plan, they will add it to your account and tell you when its on and your good to go!
I didnt' want to swtich to the data plan cause it didnt' include free text messages. I was hoping to use the sidekick internet until my contract was over.
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I didnt' want to swtich to the data plan cause it didnt' include free text messages. I was hoping to use the sidekick internet until my contract was over.
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Nah, it's a separate data plan I believe.
The only way you are gonna be able to use the internet w/o getting Tmo's data plan is if there is wifi available.
I have been using my new mytouch without a data plan for about a week now. I had data when I activated the phone (didn't sign up for it, but was able to connect), but they have since blocked it. Everything works fine without a data plan except for one thing - MMS. MMS is not working for me now, and I suspect its because I don't have a data plan. I tried changing around APN settings, but haven't managed to find a combination that works. Anyone have any ideas on work around?
So that is weird because technically, without data, you should only get mms / sms and phone.
mms uses the data connection
MMS messages need the data connection to work. SMS messages should work without a data connection since they are transmitted over the signaling portion of the cell channel.
Without the data plan MMS will not work.
Why then did MMS work on my T-Mobile Dash without a data plan?
Dash was a different phone
Windows Mobile on the dash handled data differently than the android software, plus the network systems have been changed to recognize data phones and require the correct data plans.
The Dash was not supposed to get MMS without a data plan but it worked as long as you could connect to T-zones.
Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
yea i had the same thing the data worked over 3g for about a day. u can buy the phone form walmart and u will not have to to get the 24.99 data plan i just told them i have it on another line.
So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
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So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
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to view MMS without a data plan? No cuz an unlocked phone only allows you to use the phone with other carriers.
is there anyway to activate it without dataplan simcard....? with wifi same like g1
I think that myTouch "need" simcard with data plan to activate it. only wifi is impossible to activate.
However, I've another question. Is it possible to use this phone when I have no Internet conneciton (wifi/2G/3G)? I just need to use if for making a call.
yes. if your mytouch 3g is alrady activated (needs sim cardwith data plan for that), you can SMS and make phonecalls and check voicemail (visual voicemail does need data tho) without any data connection, just like normal cellphones.
OK folks. For those of you that missed it. The My Touch has to be activated using a sim card with a data plan attached. Once that is done, you don't need data. MMS on the MyTouch runs through the data portion of the network. Yot car root the phone, load up a different recovery image like Cyanogen or Amon ra's, and no more need to activate that handheld again. As for MMS, no fix for that. You have to have data to send an MMS. Large text, Picture, Or video messages will not work on a text package alone. A "large" text message is about 133 characters or more. Don't realy remember to well these days. The phone was designed around a data connection. Without it, you're gonna have issues.
Is there a List?
Is there a list of phones that MMS won't work or other features are disabled? The G1 used to not need data now T-mobile say's it does? so if I was to get a G1 without data is MMS gone? Curious about the Nokia nuron or nexus 1 is anything disabled without data?
I want to get a nice phone preferably with wifi but no data plan what is my best option a list of phones that work 100% without Data would be very cool...
Need to know my options so I can start trying to get a deal on the phone I select.
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Das_mobile said:
Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
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No not really. the $10 Unlimited web for phone data plan works. Just need to tweak around the apn settings.
I have also seen some forums that included that a 5.99$ Tzone data plan also work with mytouch 3g. However it is difficult to get that plan.
After activating and sim unlocking the phone, If I ever factory data reset, would I have to activate it again with a Tmobile sim card?
Now I am confused.
I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
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I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
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Are you getting charged for data usage? AFAIK all MMS has to go over towers so that the carriers network can authenticate the phone they're are coming from, but I could be wrong.
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i'm on tmobile. i have 1000 minutes talk, UNLIMITED text, but NO data plan. if i send multimedia messages (MMS). do i get charged for data? people told me you either need wifi or data on in order to send mms. however, they also said that the MMS uses a different server from internet data. so if i send MMS, would i still get charged for data plan since it requires, even though i have unlimited text plan?
MMS uses data AFAIK.
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MMS uses data AFAIK.
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yes i know, as i've said in the body of my post, i know it uses data. but people said it uses a different or protocol server from the internet data. so would i still be charged as if it was internet data? or even though it uses data, since it's different from internet data, i won't get any charges?
MMS requires data as you said. The plan you have though could specify free SMS/MMS without you having access to the internet. MMS uses a local server on the network you are on so it wont work over WIFI and it doesn't use the internet.
With that said though, it all depends on your plan. There are some prepaid carriers that offer cheap plans with NO internet but still included unlimited SMS and MMS because internet is not a requirement for MMS. Your phone obviously does need a data connection to their servers but that doesn't count.
I don't see that 1000 minute plan on the T-Mobile site but even their 500 Talk and Text plan includes MMS and it does NOT include any internet.