I have been using my new mytouch without a data plan for about a week now. I had data when I activated the phone (didn't sign up for it, but was able to connect), but they have since blocked it. Everything works fine without a data plan except for one thing - MMS. MMS is not working for me now, and I suspect its because I don't have a data plan. I tried changing around APN settings, but haven't managed to find a combination that works. Anyone have any ideas on work around?
So that is weird because technically, without data, you should only get mms / sms and phone.
mms uses the data connection
MMS messages need the data connection to work. SMS messages should work without a data connection since they are transmitted over the signaling portion of the cell channel.
Without the data plan MMS will not work.
Why then did MMS work on my T-Mobile Dash without a data plan?
Dash was a different phone
Windows Mobile on the dash handled data differently than the android software, plus the network systems have been changed to recognize data phones and require the correct data plans.
The Dash was not supposed to get MMS without a data plan but it worked as long as you could connect to T-zones.
Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
yea i had the same thing the data worked over 3g for about a day. u can buy the phone form walmart and u will not have to to get the 24.99 data plan i just told them i have it on another line.
So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
mlpoland said:
So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
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to view MMS without a data plan? No cuz an unlocked phone only allows you to use the phone with other carriers.
is there anyway to activate it without dataplan simcard....? with wifi same like g1
I think that myTouch "need" simcard with data plan to activate it. only wifi is impossible to activate.
However, I've another question. Is it possible to use this phone when I have no Internet conneciton (wifi/2G/3G)? I just need to use if for making a call.
yes. if your mytouch 3g is alrady activated (needs sim cardwith data plan for that), you can SMS and make phonecalls and check voicemail (visual voicemail does need data tho) without any data connection, just like normal cellphones.
OK folks. For those of you that missed it. The My Touch has to be activated using a sim card with a data plan attached. Once that is done, you don't need data. MMS on the MyTouch runs through the data portion of the network. Yot car root the phone, load up a different recovery image like Cyanogen or Amon ra's, and no more need to activate that handheld again. As for MMS, no fix for that. You have to have data to send an MMS. Large text, Picture, Or video messages will not work on a text package alone. A "large" text message is about 133 characters or more. Don't realy remember to well these days. The phone was designed around a data connection. Without it, you're gonna have issues.
Is there a List?
Is there a list of phones that MMS won't work or other features are disabled? The G1 used to not need data now T-mobile say's it does? so if I was to get a G1 without data is MMS gone? Curious about the Nokia nuron or nexus 1 is anything disabled without data?
I want to get a nice phone preferably with wifi but no data plan what is my best option a list of phones that work 100% without Data would be very cool...
Need to know my options so I can start trying to get a deal on the phone I select.
Thanks
Hurlamania
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Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
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No not really. the $10 Unlimited web for phone data plan works. Just need to tweak around the apn settings.
I have also seen some forums that included that a 5.99$ Tzone data plan also work with mytouch 3g. However it is difficult to get that plan.
After activating and sim unlocking the phone, If I ever factory data reset, would I have to activate it again with a Tmobile sim card?
Now I am confused.
I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
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I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
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Are you getting charged for data usage? AFAIK all MMS has to go over towers so that the carriers network can authenticate the phone they're are coming from, but I could be wrong.
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I have a AT&T HTC Fuze p4600 and I have the data plan shut off so I wouldn't get charged fees that I did not confirm, I use wifi basically everywhere I go and I was wondering is there a way I can get my mms messages to download. I have the unlimited messaging plan. But since I had AT&T shut there data connection off they said I would not be able to recieve any mms and when someone sends me one it asks me if I want to download but it never does...
So is it possible to fix that.
If I'm on WiFi, will MMS use my data plan or wifi?
MMS goes through your texting plan on AT&T. It doesn't count as data usage.
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MMS goes through your texting plan on AT&T. It doesn't count as data usage.
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So it uses no data at all? Then why does it require data to send mms?
You don't need a data plan to send an MMS, but it needs a data connection to send the information because it still routes it over the 3G connection.
Because of the way it routes the MMS as opposed to regular web traffic, they track it and don't bill you for data usage even though it uses the data connection.
That's how it is with AT&T on a locked phone, but I don't know about other carriers or if you are using an unlocked device.
T-Mobile yes can over wifi
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24195.xml
Other carriers....I don't know
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T-Mobile yes can over wifi
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24195.xml
Other carriers....I don't know
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Yea and T-mobile supports wi-fi calling as well and At&t Does not.
Pretty sure it has to be a T-Mobile Device With Wi-Fi calling option in order for that o work...could be wrong though.
I have been having problems for quite a while with receiving MMS messages and sending them as well. I am on a monthly pay as you go plan with no data and i am out of the tmobile network, (roaming still in US) but with my previous phone (sidekick 4g), I was able to send and receive MMS messages if i had wifi calling on. Now that trick doesn't seem to work but once every good while. All I get is the download option then my bars will get that "x" over them to signify no coverage and wifi calling will turn off and after a while start again and no progress will be made in the download process. I have tried having both national and international roaming on and neither seem to make a difference. I havent made any tries to change the apn settings. Could anyone help me solve my dilemma? Thanks any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Even though you're on a pay-as-you-go plan, you'll still need data enabled to send/receive mms messages. Otherwise you'll receive the message but never be able to download the attachment. My phone is on a plan without data, but I still have to enable data in order to send and receive MMS messages. I also need a good amount of signal (it has to be practically full signal) for it to go through. As far as my experience goes, you can't send or receive MMS messages while Wi-Fi Calling is enabled. Your signal bars show no signal because your phone is switching between Wi-Fi Calling and mobile radio. As for APN setting, I'm not sure which ones do and don't work. Whenever I have issues with MMS, I look up the values and re-set them.
TL;DR Just enable data and give it a try.
vicmora5 said:
I have been having problems for quite a while with receiving MMS messages and sending them as well. I am on a monthly pay as you go plan with no data and i am out of the tmobile network, (roaming still in US) but with my previous phone (sidekick 4g), I was able to send and receive MMS messages if i had wifi calling on. Now that trick doesn't seem to work but once every good while. All I get is the download option then my bars will get that "x" over them to signify no coverage and wifi calling will turn off and after a while start again and no progress will be made in the download process. I have tried having both national and international roaming on and neither seem to make a difference. I havent made any tries to change the apn settings. Could anyone help me solve my dilemma? Thanks any help will be greatly appreciated.
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I have T-Mobile as well. If you watch closely when receiving an MMS, you will see that although WiFi calling is enabled, the mobile data indicator will show up and transfer the data.
As far as APN settings are concerned, it has no effect on WiFi calling. If you can receive MMS when connected to mobile data then your APN settings are correct.
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I have T-Mobile as well. If you watch closely when receiving an MMS, you will see that although WiFi calling is enabled, the mobile data indicator will show up and transfer the data.
As far as APN settings are concerned, it has no effect on WiFi calling. If you can receive MMS when connected to mobile data then your APN settings are correct.
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The thing is that I do have my data enabled and i do see the indicator showing the data transfer but its usually a "G" and the arrows neither go up or down, but its really strange yesterday I was able to test it out and I was able to recieve an MMS but I tried sending one right after and nothing happened. I will probably recieve the failed to send message later on today. I was just hoping there was a fix to this. And as far as I have seen with experimenting with it, WiFi calling must be enabled for me to send or recieve MMS if not I get the message of could not send or could not download right away
Hey guys i just got a atrix 4g unlocked for tmobile running cm7. I do not have a data plan but i do have unlimited messaging. is there any apn setting out there that allows me to send and recieve just mms and no data other than that. how would i go about configuring my phone to do so? i would really appreciate the help. its really annoying having to toggle the data on and off whenever i recieve a picture message.
You could just call tmobilr and have them disable the data. Then no overage and no toggling every 10 seconds
so that wont shut off all my data? because i know you need to have data enabled on the phone in order to download the mms.
They wont charge you for data use on mms if you deny data at all. They will make the phone a calling/mms/SMS only then. Wifi would be your phones new friend.