I have had my Orange SPV M3100 for a couple of weeks and I really love it. A great upgrade from the Wizard, which I only loved a little bit less.
But there is something about it that bugs me nearly every time I use it: the two halves of the device become misaligned from each other too easily.
I quite liked having the Power button on top of the Wizard, unlike the Hermes design where the button is on the side. Now, with the Hermes, I hold it in my left hand (thumb on the wheel) and press the Power with my right index finger. Theoretically I am only holding the lower half of the device to do this (the half with the keyboard) but in reality the fleshy part of my thumb pushes the upper half (the screen) to the right nine times out of ten when I press the button.
This drives me up the wall. It seems I'm constantly lining the two halves up like an untidy pack of playing cards
I'm thinking about putting a tiny bit of Blu-Tack or something in the end of the sliding channel under the screen, so that it offers a bit more resistance before the two halves separate.
Anyone else noticed this little annoyance? Or am I just being a bit picky? I didn't have this issue with the Wizard.
I too am a leftie and have the same problems. When I hold it in my right hand it isn't as bad,
Izzard-UK said:
I have had my Orange SPV M3100 for a couple of weeks and I really love it. A great upgrade from the Wizard, which I only loved a little bit less.
But there is something about it that bugs me nearly every time I use it: the two halves of the device become misaligned from each other too easily.
I quite liked having the Power button on top of the Wizard, unlike the Hermes design where the button is on the side. Now, with the Hermes, I hold it in my left hand (thumb on the wheel) and press the Power with my right index finger. Theoretically I am only holding the lower half of the device to do this (the half with the keyboard) but in reality the fleshy part of my thumb pushes the upper half (the screen) to the right nine times out of ten when I press the button.
This drives me up the wall. It seems I'm constantly lining the two halves up like an untidy pack of playing cards
I'm thinking about putting a tiny bit of Blu-Tack or something in the end of the sliding channel under the screen, so that it offers a bit more resistance before the two halves separate.
Anyone else noticed this little annoyance? Or am I just being a bit picky? I didn't have this issue with the Wizard.
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The same here. I got my TyTn back from repair this week, also for the sliding (and other things). At first it slided with a littebit more resistance but after a day it is back to where is was: with the "easy slide...
Same thing
Had that same problem. My first TyTN died.... so let's how it goes with this new one. This is not sliding now - it so new.
I'm just a little bit afraid how this thing holds together after a year or two? Please tell how it works with you guys having few months old machine.
Has been loose from the beginning. Always slides about 5mm while turning on
with left hand.
Me too HT638F ...
But I will return it because I want an english version.
Related
... that the power button of the Universal is in the completely wrong place? It should have been where it was on the MDA Pro: top right corner.
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
Bothered me for about 10mins...then just got used to it.
the MDA Pro /is/ an HTC Universal, innit?
As for keys... I just got a new keyboard to replace my old one which had broken in half (just the casing, but you get the idea). I hate replacing keyboards because they always switch keys around... delete is now in the top right, instead of next to insert in the bottom right - left alt moved one over to the left where an Fn key was, and where the left alt was is now an additional backslash key (yep, there's two). So now whenever I want to alt-tab or alt-f4, it either doesn't work, or my screen will be filled with backslashes
That said, I'm already getting used to it again.
Consider these things, mostly, minor nuisances - you'll get used to it soon enough. Doesn't take away that there -are- of course some devices with button locations that are just ill-conceived; e.g. a lamp I've got has its on/off switch 'hidden' behind the glass hood that covers the lamp... the problem is that if the lamp's been on for a while, reaching that button means risking a 1st degree burn if you touch the glass I just unplug it instead.
I think it'll continue to annoy me, as I will always need two hands to switch it on. Difficult when I'm on my bike (I like living dangerously), bothersome in most other situations.
Anton.Valleyman said:
Bothered me for about 10mins...then just got used to it.
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The part where the display is becomes shaky a bit when you slide open the keyboard
Is that something that I should be concerned about or is it normal?
I think it's normal. I've examined four X1a's and they all had a small amount of play in the top part of the slider when open.
Mine has also a slight play to it (back and forth). Noticed this on the Raphael as well.
Keep in mind though, that the slider is only supported by two metal hooks situated (when keyboard out) at one end of the screen. So guess it's normal.
The play will also increase as the phone gets older (wear and tear). As long as the screen doesn't fall off I guess it's ok.
To prolong the life though, I try to be gentle when opening and support the screen when it's open (to reduce the wear and tear).
Mine's shaky when closed. Went to the service centre thrice and everytime they said it was normal.
Mine is a bit shaky as well. even when closed, but afer giving it some thought, i guess it impossible to make it totaly solid, at least with this form. i annoyes me, though. pressing the keys and you feel how it bends a little. when opened, I am afraid to press the little x or soething else on top of the screen, at least without supporting the lower side with my other hand.
Jabe said:
Mine is a bit shaky as well. even when closed, but afer giving it some thought, i guess it impossible to make it totaly solid, at least with this form. i annoyes me, though. pressing the keys and you feel how it bends a little. when opened, I am afraid to press the little x or soething else on top of the screen, at least without supporting the lower side with my other hand.
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I support it when open, cause it's impossible to make it solid (@least not in this form factor). It's easy enough for me though.. cause the phone fits in my palm so easy (and way easier than other phones I've had - But I do miss the tilting screen from Kaiser though..then again, that needed major support when tilted)
I am new to this board, hello everybody!
I have my X1 for a week now. On mine the top part is shaky when closed, it moves ~1mm up/down opposite of the slider hinges. Anyone else?
It annoys me, but I hope it is okay and won't get worse.
Greets and have Fun with Your X1s!
i think it's normal. I noticed that as soon as I took it out of the box and was very worried. it's my first slider phone and i didn't know what was normal and what was not. reading threads like this was very reassuring for me. I just hope it won't get loose, if it stays like that, then i'm happy.
It seems really solid to me. No movement at all unless I push on it. I’m guessing it will loosen up over time.
same here, closed and opened. When I press gently in opposite corners when closed, it waggles slightly. I got annoyed/worried about this after purchasing the phone few months ago and went to the store to ask about it. I got to test three different X1s and they were all similar, so it's not a problem (or at least it's by the design
A bit annoying still though, especially when using touchscreen with your fingers. Mostly when pressing on the right side of the screen (down-right being the worst), it waggles slightly under your fingers.
Same here too. About 1mm up and down when closed, and when open, same.
And yes Jent, it does waggle a bit. Try using the phone when you're lying in bed, and hold the phone upside down... every press will move the screen about 1mm and it gets annoying very quickly.
i also have the problem with the upper corner^^
HI,
I have problem with the moving part of the X1 rattles, mostly in upper - right side /near Volume button/.
Is this normal?
When phone is closed and I press lightly upped and bottom side of my Xperia - I see that phone clatter. This is mostly in right corner, but nearly the same is also in other left upped corner.
I use my Xperia from one month.
I don't have software problems but i don't know is this normal or I must go to repair?
Thanks
Is this normal or I must go to repair?
Thanks again
What exactly do you mean by "windage"?
SquidgyB said:
What exactly do you mean by "windage"?
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I'm also curious about this, because the only applicable definition of "windage" here would be air friction preventing him from pushing the button down easily, but I highly doubt that this is happening. Maybe he means erosion? I could imagine a way for one to come to a "windage" type of word for describing a similar effect to how wind can erode things.
I think he might be German -there is the word "Verwindung" which means somewhat like deflection in case of twisting. In my opinion he has the problem that when he presses onto to upper right corner the case the lower left corner travels up a little bit which is normal due to the mounting of the slider mechanism.
He means that the moving part of the X1 rattles. I guess that it is a little loose between the screen and the keyboard and when pressing it with its fingers he feels that the screen is moving downwards.
Unfortunately that's the case with mine, it has a very tiny rattle when I press the screen (tiny but I can feel it very easily) which is annoying.
I guess I will have to live with it.
Any other experiences about it?
Yes, I mean the moving part of the X1 rattles. Two parts: bottom part with keyboard and part with display - knocking, when I press them lightly.
I'm sorry for my bad English.
Thanks XavierGr!
When I press some of buttons I feel this move....
Maybe after few months this will be horrible.
Same with my X1. Have it for more than 2 month now and treated it like a raw egg...just wait and see...
anmeldung said:
Maybe after few months this will be horrible.
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If the rattle gets worse we are doomed. This thing will eventually break apart if it continues to rattle more and more.
I hope it stays as it is, it's a bit annoying but I can live with it. Time will tell...
I had this HD2 for almost 2 months now.. and the leftmost button is now tad lower compare to the rightmost..and SOMETIMES it does not register the tactile...
I had checked some of my friends HD2 and it's getting the same problem...the leftmost is really just a tad lower..but their lowest button STILL works..is it because mime is the oldest ?
ANyone having the same observation and thus the problem..????
My on/end call button also feels very spongy (brand new handset). I will try and return it in the next couple of days...
I had three of these (sold the fourth unopened) and two of them had dodgy buttons, the other was perfect. I suspect it's mass-production that's to blame but ultimately the buttons do feel 'cheap' on the HD2 and definitely let the side down.
Been using long_press much? its sort of natural to press pretty hard, could account for it.
I probably have one from the earlier batches, and the buttons I find a bit too stiff. Would love it if they were much softer. I recently made a trip to Costco, which had a dummy phone whose buttons were much easier to press. Now, I'm wondering if later batches have softer buttons. It could be the way the dummy phone was made though...
Anyone who's ordered more than 1 phone notice any difference in the action of the buttons?
I actually exchanged my phone for a new one last week because the back button started creaking after awhile. (That was just one of several problems I had with that phone...) I think the buttons were really stiff and because of that I felt I had to press harder on the button and I think wearing down the button way too much to the point it started to creak.
The new phone I got has a much better tactile feel on the buttons now. It's a bit softer to touch and quieter.
I have my second MT4G. The first one made sometimes creaky noise on the home button but that was not the reason why I returned it. My second one doesn't have the creaky noise but the buttons are still hard to press. I come from the N1 that had soft buttons so everything with hardware buttons is a big change. I think that the buttons are more protruding on my second one; feels a bit odd but no reason to exchange this phone again.