The part where the display is becomes shaky a bit when you slide open the keyboard
Is that something that I should be concerned about or is it normal?
I think it's normal. I've examined four X1a's and they all had a small amount of play in the top part of the slider when open.
Mine has also a slight play to it (back and forth). Noticed this on the Raphael as well.
Keep in mind though, that the slider is only supported by two metal hooks situated (when keyboard out) at one end of the screen. So guess it's normal.
The play will also increase as the phone gets older (wear and tear). As long as the screen doesn't fall off I guess it's ok.
To prolong the life though, I try to be gentle when opening and support the screen when it's open (to reduce the wear and tear).
Mine's shaky when closed. Went to the service centre thrice and everytime they said it was normal.
Mine is a bit shaky as well. even when closed, but afer giving it some thought, i guess it impossible to make it totaly solid, at least with this form. i annoyes me, though. pressing the keys and you feel how it bends a little. when opened, I am afraid to press the little x or soething else on top of the screen, at least without supporting the lower side with my other hand.
Jabe said:
Mine is a bit shaky as well. even when closed, but afer giving it some thought, i guess it impossible to make it totaly solid, at least with this form. i annoyes me, though. pressing the keys and you feel how it bends a little. when opened, I am afraid to press the little x or soething else on top of the screen, at least without supporting the lower side with my other hand.
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I support it when open, cause it's impossible to make it solid (@least not in this form factor). It's easy enough for me though.. cause the phone fits in my palm so easy (and way easier than other phones I've had - But I do miss the tilting screen from Kaiser though..then again, that needed major support when tilted)
I am new to this board, hello everybody!
I have my X1 for a week now. On mine the top part is shaky when closed, it moves ~1mm up/down opposite of the slider hinges. Anyone else?
It annoys me, but I hope it is okay and won't get worse.
Greets and have Fun with Your X1s!
i think it's normal. I noticed that as soon as I took it out of the box and was very worried. it's my first slider phone and i didn't know what was normal and what was not. reading threads like this was very reassuring for me. I just hope it won't get loose, if it stays like that, then i'm happy.
It seems really solid to me. No movement at all unless I push on it. I’m guessing it will loosen up over time.
same here, closed and opened. When I press gently in opposite corners when closed, it waggles slightly. I got annoyed/worried about this after purchasing the phone few months ago and went to the store to ask about it. I got to test three different X1s and they were all similar, so it's not a problem (or at least it's by the design
A bit annoying still though, especially when using touchscreen with your fingers. Mostly when pressing on the right side of the screen (down-right being the worst), it waggles slightly under your fingers.
Same here too. About 1mm up and down when closed, and when open, same.
And yes Jent, it does waggle a bit. Try using the phone when you're lying in bed, and hold the phone upside down... every press will move the screen about 1mm and it gets annoying very quickly.
i also have the problem with the upper corner^^
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I see other people have posted the problem with the stylus coming loose over time.
I also noticed today that the paint inside the ie button and to a certain extent the messaging button (the buttons above the screen) has been removed, it seems due to taking the device out of the holder all the time.
Anyone else think this is realy poor
Paul
yes i too think its a little lack-lustre.
the internet and messaging buttons logo's have both lost 90% of their paintwork.
i think it wont be too long until my keyboard becomes a little too easy to open. after all its only two little plastic notches which cause it to "snap in and out" once they have worn down a little then its gunna get ugly
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yes i too think its a little lack-lustre.
the internet and messaging buttons logo's have both lost 90% of their paintwork.
i think it wont be too long until my keyboard becomes a little too easy to open. after all its only two little plastic notches which cause it to "snap in and out" once they have worn down a little then its gunna get ugly
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Is that true ? I am going to buy one, you talkng about Qtek9100 or K-Jam or both???
i have kjam, but both are the same in terms of build
heres a cross section of the slider in action... when you pull it out the little notch "snaps" into the recess.. and the same when you close.
seeings as its just plastic i have a feeling that that will eventually wear down with use. i already think its become looser than it used to be from only having it a month
I have the qtek 9100 and do not have any oif the problems described above .... yet!!
Stu
Anyone else notice that the edges of the screen on the cmda diamond, cdma pro, and the HD seem to be MUCH less responsive than the screens of previous devices?
I "miss" the exit and start menu buttons pretty often and its pretty annoying lol.
Also the notification/title bar area plus other buttons along the bottom and side.
The rest of the screen is more responsive certainly than say the vogue, mogul, diamond or tp. But its the edges of this and the last 2 mentioned devices that get me..
Well I also feel it's less responsive, but not so much actually. Besides this is caused by the technology of the touch screen.
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Well I also feel it's less responsive, but not so much actually. Besides this is caused by the technology of the touch screen.
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You mean the edges or the whole thing? The main part I feel is more responsive...
Edge responisiveness depends highly on screen calibration. Try to recalibrate screen more precisely, I think situation should improve ...
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Edge responisiveness depends highly on screen calibration. Try to recalibrate screen more precisely, I think situation should improve ...
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Hey thanks a lot. Thought the same thing myself.
Re-calibrated as accurately as I possibly could.
Still no go. I would really like someone else to try this. Take out your stylus even and press in the very corner of the X-button...you get nothing.
Sort of fix: I found that if you hold your press just a little longer it registers (much better) though I'm not quite convinced that it's still normal nor complete.
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Still no go. I would really like someone else to try this. Take out your stylus even and press in the very corner of the X-button...you get nothing.
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I don't see any problem in pressing X-button on my Touch HD. I had similar problem like yours using right vertical scrollbar and recalibration helped, so I though it might help you too, but unfortunately it seem this ain't the same problem
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I don't see any problem in pressing X-button on my Touch HD. I had similar problem like yours using right vertical scrollbar and recalibration helped, so I though it might help you too, but unfortunately it seem this ain't the same problem
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Hmm...I wonder if I should try to get it replaced under warranty.
I would want to, but I have noticed the same problem in a sprint diamond in the store, a sprint touch pro in a store, and a friends sprint touch pro.
What do you (guys) think? Replacement? It could get really annoying...not being able to close out of things. Right now since its new and awesome and stuff I'm kind of trying to ignore it or whatever but...hmm idk.
The fact that the screen is less responsive near the edges is caused by an inherent technical limitation of resistive screens. The screen has no real bezel, and thus, the screen is attached to the body frame right where it ends: at the absolute edges of the screen Where it is attached, it cannot move. A little further away from the edge it can move (eg be pressed down) but this requires more force since you need to bend the screen much closer to the fixed edges than when you would press the center of the screen, which bends the easiest.
Don't know if this makes sense, but it's like a window... Hitting it in the centre will break it much easier than when hitting it close to the edges, since the glass bends much further/easier at the center, so the same force will have more effect.
Anyway, resistive screens have this problems, capacitive screens do not, obviously, since they do not rely on pressure.
If hitting the OK/Close button is a problem for you, just use the hardware button below the screen, the one with the arrow on it. It does exactly the same thing I believe. With 'I believe' I mean I assigned OK/close to that button using AEButtonPlus, which should be the default behavior for pressing it once. I find this to be much more convenient than trying to hit that tiny X/OK button.
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The fact that the screen is less responsive near the edges is caused by an inherent technical limitation of resistive screens. The screen has no real bezel, and thus, the screen is attached to the body frame right where it ends: at the absolute edges of the screen Where it is attached, it cannot move. A little further away from the edge it can move (eg be pressed down) but this requires more force since you need to bend the screen much closer to the fixed edges than when you would press the center of the screen, which bends the easiest.
Don't know if this makes sense, but it's like a window... Hitting it in the centre will break it much easier than when hitting it close to the edges, since the glass bends much further/easier at the center, so the same force will have more effect.
Anyway, resistive screens have this problems, capacitive screens do not, obviously, since they do not rely on pressure.
If hitting the OK/Close button is a problem for you, just use the hardware button below the screen, the one with the arrow on it. It does exactly the same thing I believe. With 'I believe' I mean I assigned OK/close to that button using AEButtonPlus, which should be the default behavior for pressing it once. I find this to be much more convenient than trying to hit that tiny X/OK button.
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Hey thanks for your informative opinion.
This theory seems to fit, except it doesn't quite explain nor fit with these 2 things:
1. I can apply a pretty decent amount of pressure in the corner with no results whatsoever. But I can get full results if I apply less pressure for about .5-1 second rather than just tapping.
2. I have never seen any evidence of this on any other resistive touch devices (vogue, titan).
Why in the world do these resistive touch screens have to suck so bad anyway? The HD is the best I've seen lately, but does HTC just suck at it, or is it everyone (haven't owned a non-htc ts device for a yr or so, and that was a treo where I didn't really notice sensitivity).
My dad has a 3+ yr old Dell Axim X5 and that screen is AMAZINGLY sensitive. Responds to stylus and is too old to be capacitive. But it is literally 100% as responsive / sensitive as the screen of the iPhone. When I used it I couldn't believe it. You had to be VERY delicate and careful and trying hard to touch that screen and not have it know.
HI,
I have problem with the moving part of the X1 rattles, mostly in upper - right side /near Volume button/.
Is this normal?
When phone is closed and I press lightly upped and bottom side of my Xperia - I see that phone clatter. This is mostly in right corner, but nearly the same is also in other left upped corner.
I use my Xperia from one month.
I don't have software problems but i don't know is this normal or I must go to repair?
Thanks
Is this normal or I must go to repair?
Thanks again
What exactly do you mean by "windage"?
SquidgyB said:
What exactly do you mean by "windage"?
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I'm also curious about this, because the only applicable definition of "windage" here would be air friction preventing him from pushing the button down easily, but I highly doubt that this is happening. Maybe he means erosion? I could imagine a way for one to come to a "windage" type of word for describing a similar effect to how wind can erode things.
I think he might be German -there is the word "Verwindung" which means somewhat like deflection in case of twisting. In my opinion he has the problem that when he presses onto to upper right corner the case the lower left corner travels up a little bit which is normal due to the mounting of the slider mechanism.
He means that the moving part of the X1 rattles. I guess that it is a little loose between the screen and the keyboard and when pressing it with its fingers he feels that the screen is moving downwards.
Unfortunately that's the case with mine, it has a very tiny rattle when I press the screen (tiny but I can feel it very easily) which is annoying.
I guess I will have to live with it.
Any other experiences about it?
Yes, I mean the moving part of the X1 rattles. Two parts: bottom part with keyboard and part with display - knocking, when I press them lightly.
I'm sorry for my bad English.
Thanks XavierGr!
When I press some of buttons I feel this move....
Maybe after few months this will be horrible.
Same with my X1. Have it for more than 2 month now and treated it like a raw egg...just wait and see...
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Maybe after few months this will be horrible.
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If the rattle gets worse we are doomed. This thing will eventually break apart if it continues to rattle more and more.
I hope it stays as it is, it's a bit annoying but I can live with it. Time will tell...
Hello,
I got my N1 1 week before, and i'm really satisfied with this phone.
Since the first day that i got it, i tested it by applying pressure to the corners of the screen, just to check if it had any problems of clicking screen like the other users reported, and it was ok, no clicking and everything normal.
But today, i tested it again and i noticed that it clicked near the touch buttons at the bottom of the screen I applied pressure on it, and it seemed like it glued again and didn't click anymore, after several hours it begun to click again
I think i will apply the hairdryer method, before dust goes under my screen.
I just opened this thread to warn the other N1 owners, to check their phone again, so you are all sure that you have no problems with your screen.
Best Regards!
What's with this clicking?! I don't understand where you see the problem
Thats a good point cause I just got the N1 couple of days ago and noticed a clicking sound on the top area. Didn't know this was a known issue. Gonna have to look into it further.
I tried telling you guys in the thread I started (the other one about the dust under the screen), where I first suggested using a hairdryer... that everyone should go ahead and warm up the screen and make sure it's sealed properly. The glue has to be warmed up well to really get tacky so when it cools it will stay sealed since it's porous.
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I tried telling you guys in the thread I started (the other one about the dust under the screen), where I first suggested using a hairdryer... that everyone should go ahead and warm up the screen and make sure it's sealed properly. The glue has to be warmed up well to really get tacky so when it cools it will stay sealed since it's porous.
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Yeah I did something like that. When I was leaving work I figured if I crank up the heat all the way up and hold the phone in front of the vent it might achieve the same thing and it seems like its good now. I don't here any clicking any more. I actually realized it was clicking from the bottom area as well aside from the top but it seems good (hopefully).
What exactly do you guys do to get that clicking sound? You press the edges of the screen? Applying a lot of pressure, or the usual? I don't seem to be getting anything weird, but I'm not pressing too much either.
You have to press at the corners with a good deal of pressure to hear the clicking.
Hm, I don't seem to be getting any noise. Is it loud, or barely noticeable?
Also, if I start to hear it in the future, is it an indicator that I might get the dust problem? Should I heat it with a hair drier? Won't that melt the plastic parts of the phone?
Press hard then let go and you may hear a very faint click. You have to listen for it. If you hear nothing then I guess your unit is fine.
Hairdryers shouldn't melt the plastic components, but should be hot enough to warm the adhesive up.
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Press hard then let go and you may hear a very faint click.
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Ah, sounds like breaking the glue under the screen or something..
I used the hairdryer and it seems to work for a short time on the 4 softkeys.
Will try the upper part now
Did the hairdryer thing a month ago and its still holding strong
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I am having trouble with this, after reading this thread I noticed the 2 bottom corners of my screen do click when pressing down on them hard, so took out the hair dryer and did each corner for about 2 min on full heat full blast, screen was hot to the touch, applied firm pressure while it was cooling afterwards, and there was no clicking at that time.
Now afew minutes after it is still clicking.
How did you guys do it exacly?
edit: nvm got it, had to hold down harder and right at the edge of the screen.
Yeah Mafi0s0, thats what i did too. I realised my screen clicking again after doing it the first time. Doing it the second time - it required alot of pressure, but doesn't seem to clicking anymore.
Thanx for the tips guys, I also had the same problem, but applying more pressure fixed the thing.
Mine also had the clicking at the bottom, and i have some dust under the screen.
It fiexed for now .. but i will probably disassemble it to clean all the dust if it gets worst.
This hair dryer method hasnt worked for me at all, I have tried 3 times, I just checked then and the clicking is heaps bad, its very loud. I am gonna get dust under my screen for sure if I dont fix this.
How have you guys who have been successful done it exactly?
Today I noticed 2 very small dust particles under my screen. After seeing this thread I did the corner test and it turns out the the bottom right of my screen clicks. I did the hair dryer trick and it seems to have fixed it.
Is anyone facing the ungrounded screen issue on their Legend? For the uninitiated, just check youtube for 'ungrounded screen' (I'm new here. Unable to post links)
Repeating the same test myself, my screen isn't as responsive as it normally is though, not as bad as that video.
I've never seen that test but I was curious so I downloaded draw and tested it.
Top to bottom works fine for me no matter if I am holding it or it is placed on a surface ungrounded like the video.
I did notice a slight difference in left to right particularly in the top 1/4 of the screen. it starts drawing about 3mm in when 'ungrounded' and immediately when holding the device.
But honestly though, its designed to sit in the palm of your hand and be used with your thumb, or be held and operated with 2 hands. Is it a real big deal?