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Slight annoyance: keyboard slides too easily.

I have had my Orange SPV M3100 for a couple of weeks and I really love it. A great upgrade from the Wizard, which I only loved a little bit less.
But there is something about it that bugs me nearly every time I use it: the two halves of the device become misaligned from each other too easily.
I quite liked having the Power button on top of the Wizard, unlike the Hermes design where the button is on the side. Now, with the Hermes, I hold it in my left hand (thumb on the wheel) and press the Power with my right index finger. Theoretically I am only holding the lower half of the device to do this (the half with the keyboard) but in reality the fleshy part of my thumb pushes the upper half (the screen) to the right nine times out of ten when I press the button.
This drives me up the wall. It seems I'm constantly lining the two halves up like an untidy pack of playing cards
I'm thinking about putting a tiny bit of Blu-Tack or something in the end of the sliding channel under the screen, so that it offers a bit more resistance before the two halves separate.
Anyone else noticed this little annoyance? Or am I just being a bit picky? I didn't have this issue with the Wizard.

I too am a leftie and have the same problems. When I hold it in my right hand it isn't as bad,

Izzard-UK said:
I have had my Orange SPV M3100 for a couple of weeks and I really love it. A great upgrade from the Wizard, which I only loved a little bit less.
But there is something about it that bugs me nearly every time I use it: the two halves of the device become misaligned from each other too easily.
I quite liked having the Power button on top of the Wizard, unlike the Hermes design where the button is on the side. Now, with the Hermes, I hold it in my left hand (thumb on the wheel) and press the Power with my right index finger. Theoretically I am only holding the lower half of the device to do this (the half with the keyboard) but in reality the fleshy part of my thumb pushes the upper half (the screen) to the right nine times out of ten when I press the button.
This drives me up the wall. It seems I'm constantly lining the two halves up like an untidy pack of playing cards
I'm thinking about putting a tiny bit of Blu-Tack or something in the end of the sliding channel under the screen, so that it offers a bit more resistance before the two halves separate.
Anyone else noticed this little annoyance? Or am I just being a bit picky? I didn't have this issue with the Wizard.
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The same here. I got my TyTn back from repair this week, also for the sliding (and other things). At first it slided with a littebit more resistance but after a day it is back to where is was: with the "easy slide...

Same thing
Had that same problem. My first TyTN died.... so let's how it goes with this new one. This is not sliding now - it so new.
I'm just a little bit afraid how this thing holds together after a year or two? Please tell how it works with you guys having few months old machine.

Has been loose from the beginning. Always slides about 5mm while turning on
with left hand.

Me too HT638F ...
But I will return it because I want an english version.

the right side

well... a very very stupid question :-D :-D :-D do you use to put the kaiser in the original (or non original) case with the screen turned inside or outside?
ehhe, thanks
stefano

Screen face in towards the body. Less chance of breaking the screen if you bumped into a corner or if something poked the case. Rare but it happens. Thats how my son lost his iPod screen. The screen was facing out in the case and he was pushed into the corner edge of the cafeteria counter.

Yes... I have think the same observation... The only two think are:
- the button to silence the incoming call is under, so you must pull out the pda to turn the joy and silence the ring;
- With the original case when I try to pull out the phone with a finger under the case (where there is an specific hole), the keyboard slide open itself... I must do more attention to pull out the phone without open the key slide.
Bye!
stefano

upper part is shaky when keyboard is opened. Normal?

The part where the display is becomes shaky a bit when you slide open the keyboard
Is that something that I should be concerned about or is it normal?

I think it's normal. I've examined four X1a's and they all had a small amount of play in the top part of the slider when open.

Mine has also a slight play to it (back and forth). Noticed this on the Raphael as well.
Keep in mind though, that the slider is only supported by two metal hooks situated (when keyboard out) at one end of the screen. So guess it's normal.
The play will also increase as the phone gets older (wear and tear). As long as the screen doesn't fall off I guess it's ok.
To prolong the life though, I try to be gentle when opening and support the screen when it's open (to reduce the wear and tear).

Mine's shaky when closed. Went to the service centre thrice and everytime they said it was normal.

Mine is a bit shaky as well. even when closed, but afer giving it some thought, i guess it impossible to make it totaly solid, at least with this form. i annoyes me, though. pressing the keys and you feel how it bends a little. when opened, I am afraid to press the little x or soething else on top of the screen, at least without supporting the lower side with my other hand.

Jabe said:
Mine is a bit shaky as well. even when closed, but afer giving it some thought, i guess it impossible to make it totaly solid, at least with this form. i annoyes me, though. pressing the keys and you feel how it bends a little. when opened, I am afraid to press the little x or soething else on top of the screen, at least without supporting the lower side with my other hand.
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I support it when open, cause it's impossible to make it solid (@least not in this form factor). It's easy enough for me though.. cause the phone fits in my palm so easy (and way easier than other phones I've had - But I do miss the tilting screen from Kaiser though..then again, that needed major support when tilted)

I am new to this board, hello everybody!
I have my X1 for a week now. On mine the top part is shaky when closed, it moves ~1mm up/down opposite of the slider hinges. Anyone else?
It annoys me, but I hope it is okay and won't get worse.
Greets and have Fun with Your X1s!

i think it's normal. I noticed that as soon as I took it out of the box and was very worried. it's my first slider phone and i didn't know what was normal and what was not. reading threads like this was very reassuring for me. I just hope it won't get loose, if it stays like that, then i'm happy.

It seems really solid to me. No movement at all unless I push on it. I’m guessing it will loosen up over time.

same here, closed and opened. When I press gently in opposite corners when closed, it waggles slightly. I got annoyed/worried about this after purchasing the phone few months ago and went to the store to ask about it. I got to test three different X1s and they were all similar, so it's not a problem (or at least it's by the design
A bit annoying still though, especially when using touchscreen with your fingers. Mostly when pressing on the right side of the screen (down-right being the worst), it waggles slightly under your fingers.

Same here too. About 1mm up and down when closed, and when open, same.
And yes Jent, it does waggle a bit. Try using the phone when you're lying in bed, and hold the phone upside down... every press will move the screen about 1mm and it gets annoying very quickly.

i also have the problem with the upper corner^^

Xperia windage in upper sides. Is this normal after 1 month?

HI,
I have problem with the moving part of the X1 rattles, mostly in upper - right side /near Volume button/.
Is this normal?
When phone is closed and I press lightly upped and bottom side of my Xperia - I see that phone clatter. This is mostly in right corner, but nearly the same is also in other left upped corner.
I use my Xperia from one month.
I don't have software problems but i don't know is this normal or I must go to repair?
Thanks

Is this normal or I must go to repair?
Thanks again

What exactly do you mean by "windage"?

SquidgyB said:
What exactly do you mean by "windage"?
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I'm also curious about this, because the only applicable definition of "windage" here would be air friction preventing him from pushing the button down easily, but I highly doubt that this is happening. Maybe he means erosion? I could imagine a way for one to come to a "windage" type of word for describing a similar effect to how wind can erode things.

I think he might be German -there is the word "Verwindung" which means somewhat like deflection in case of twisting. In my opinion he has the problem that when he presses onto to upper right corner the case the lower left corner travels up a little bit which is normal due to the mounting of the slider mechanism.

He means that the moving part of the X1 rattles. I guess that it is a little loose between the screen and the keyboard and when pressing it with its fingers he feels that the screen is moving downwards.
Unfortunately that's the case with mine, it has a very tiny rattle when I press the screen (tiny but I can feel it very easily) which is annoying.
I guess I will have to live with it.
Any other experiences about it?

Yes, I mean the moving part of the X1 rattles. Two parts: bottom part with keyboard and part with display - knocking, when I press them lightly.
I'm sorry for my bad English.
Thanks XavierGr!
When I press some of buttons I feel this move....
Maybe after few months this will be horrible.

Same with my X1. Have it for more than 2 month now and treated it like a raw egg...just wait and see...

anmeldung said:
Maybe after few months this will be horrible.
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If the rattle gets worse we are doomed. This thing will eventually break apart if it continues to rattle more and more.
I hope it stays as it is, it's a bit annoying but I can live with it. Time will tell...

A question for Omnia 7 owners about the capacative buttons

I was curious whether the buttons are easy to trigger by accident.
On my Nexus S and the Focus, there is a subtle upward curve at the bottom of the phone. This small lip seems to prevent a lot of accidental presses of the capacitive buttons.
In my experiences with a completely flat face phone (the HD7), accidentally pressing the capqcitive buttons was extremely common and annoying. I like the looks of the Omnia 7 more than the Focus, but if it leads to similar problems as the HD7 (always pressing the buttons by accident) then I'd rather go with the focus.

For me that's one of the most annoying things about the phone. I hit the search button all the time.. But some say there will be a firmware update to fix that.

singularity0821 said:
For me that's one of the most annoying things about the phone. I hit the search button all the time.. But some say there will be a firmware update to fix that.
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That's exactly what used to happen to me with my HD7. When I held the phone part of my thumb would be on the bezel and it would hit the search button. Also, when I held the phone in landscape my finger would also hit it.
With the Nexus S I don't run into this problem because the bottom is curved a bit. I've also played with the Focus a bit and it seems to have this slight curve at the bottom as well.

yup same thing here, this is when I spend time try to browse through apps and use my phone when it was still new. now i got the hang of it, and i dont really fiddle it as much as before now, just a basic need. and i got what a really wanted, fast and responsive phone.