Just a thought - is it possible to extend the rather limp 160 characters I am curently allowed to send as a text message, or do I have to make do? I only ask because I used my old phone yesterday, and it has 370+ characters to fill per text.
Many thanks in advance,
Stephen
On my XDA Exec if I go above 160 characters it automatically extends it to 306 characters then if I go above that to 459 characters.
G
160 characters is the limit set by the phone company, not the phone. As far as I know.
Yes 160 is the per message limit, however some operators/phones allow you to write longer messages which are sent as multiple messages, on older phones they would be received literally as 2 messages whereas newer phones would receive it as 1 message.
On the XDA Exec it tells you the number of messages it is sending with teh character limit so it will display something like "172/306 (2 Messages)"
G
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I\'m quite new on using the XDA II, and what i\'ve noticed is that my SMS is broken into 3parts, EVEN IF IT IS UNDER 160 characters (which is the normal SMS size for a single message), thus it is sent as 3 separate messages to other phones, and the big problem here is that i\'m being billed an equivalent of 3 SMS for one message sent.
i don\'t know why this is happening, is this a glitch with the device? a wrong setting on my part? or perhaps a problem with my service provider? Has anyone experienced this same prob? How can i resolve this?
WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP ON THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
heres how to sort
go into inbox
then tap accounts at the bottom then Acounts... again
tap *SMS
untick where it says "send SMS messages using unicode when necessary"
press ok
then ok again then tap X
sorted try send a text now all uptp 160 letters and it only sends it as one instead of 3-4 parts
it pissed me off for ages as i have free texts but it kept using my free text allowance up very quickly even if it was a few words
then once i found it was sending in unicode i disbaled it and all has been great
hope this helps
gaz
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Kudos to you!
Hi All
Sometimes when i am typing a text msg i will allow me 160 characters per msg and if i go over this it will move onto the 2nd text msg. All fine here i hear you say.
Well other times it only allows me 70 characters before moving onto the 2nd msg. Has anyone experienced this?
thanks
Tim
yes i have. But I cannot explain why. I lost track of the different changes i maade. Flashed from merged 2.02 2.06 to raw 2.06 this weekend. No more strange happenings.
Victor
It just happens when you type unusual characters, and those need more than 1 "slot" to be sent...
So, when a normal letter counts by 1, a "^" or "§" for example will count by more.
In pocket outlook, go to Account->Accounts->Text Messages.
De-tick the "Use unicode when necessary" option to force your device to use 8-bit ASCII.
cheers, ill give that a go
As a few of you know i have only just got my Magician, and i have been using it for the last few days and i have to say that i love it i really do, but i do have one problem, when replying to an sms message the counter starts at 160 but then after writing a line or so it drops to 70! So for a 160 letter sms it sends it in two messages of 70! :shock:
Anyone got any ideas on what that might be?
i had the same problem too.. except after 3 messages it split to 3 messages for 112 charachters... was confused too....
jaso2005 said:
As a few of you know i have only just got my Magician, and i have been using it for the last few days and i have to say that i love it i really do, but i do have one problem, when replying to an sms message the counter starts at 160 but then after writing a line or so it drops to 70! So for a 160 letter sms it sends it in two messages of 70! :shock:
Anyone got any ideas on what that might be?
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Please check to see if you use any dobule byte character in your SMS. This might be the cause.
Michael
Hey guys this is due to the fact that when you write the SMSs you are including UNICODE characters such as ' " etc....
Due to the fact that these characters are encoded differently to standard characters, the SMS application has to reduce the number of characters in the sms and hence only allows 70 characters per sms.......which could mean that you send a short sms or send the sms split up! This can cost you a lot!!!
You have two options........
1/ Turn off Unicode characters
- this is done by; from you SMS inbox -> Tools -> Options -> Accounts Tab -> Click on * Text Messages -> un-tick the 'Use Unicode when necessary' -> then OK.
2/ Make sure that you don’t use Unicode characters
hope this helps!!
you can also turn unicode and double-byte characters off as well.
in messaging app, tap accounts, and then accounts
tap text messages, and then untick use unicode when necessary.
This still allows you to type in the extra characters, but wether it sends them or not, I dont know (being an uneducated englishman, i only speak english so never use those characters!)
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I have the same problem because i want to write sms in greek, but when i turn off the unicode the message fonts cannot be recognized by greek phones. Is there any other solution to this problem.
jigero said:
I have the same problem because i want to write sms in greek, but when i turn off the unicode the message fonts cannot be recognized by greek phones. Is there any other solution to this problem.
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No, because greek characters are in the extended unicode set, not the default characters.
but how come we can send 160char greek sms with other phones ?
perhaps there is a keyboard mapping that doesn't use unicode...
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mapas said:
but how come we can send 160char greek sms with other phones ? perhaps there is a keyboard mapping that doesn't use unicode...
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In the default 7-bit SMS alphabet, the greek letters that do not have a latin equivalent (say beta -> B) or omomorph (say rho -> P) letter, that is delta, phi, gamma, lambda, omega, pi, psi, sigma theta and xi are available, but you can't chose between upper and lower case. The official character set only supports UPPER case...
There are a few semistandard for dealing with upper and lower cases, but it's quite likely that the sms application on windows mobile can't deal with either.
but with the greek keyboard it works!!!!!
only with the phone pad not......
How about Chinese characters?
Hi everyone,
On my Razr I could extend the number of characters allowed for an SMS message from 140 to something like 300 using a firmware hack. Apparently if it is too long Bell’s network splits it up into two messages. Anyway, I would imagine doing something like this on a WM device should be easier? Or not?
Is there a registry setting we can use to give us a little more space when typing out SMS’s?
I can almost swear I found this in the registry back when I had a Wizard but I can't remember where. Damn those hundreds of registry entries...
If I find the same entry on my Sprint Touch I'll let you know.
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On my Razr I could extend the number of characters allowed for an SMS message from 140 to something like 300 using a firmware hack. Apparently if it is too long Bell’s network splits it up into two messages. ...
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I'd be surprised if this worked generically, though it might work for a few circumstances. SMSs are fixed at 160 by convention and it would require cooperation of *every* relay in the chain to get an increase, not just at the sender's client end. I know that from my testing, Sprint pretty much obeys the 160 char rule and doesn't seem to pass anything beyond 160. Perhaps Bell does, but you'd also need the cooperation of the other carrier, any 3rd party services in between (most inter-carrier SMS relays are handled by a 3rd party), and also the recipient's device.
sprint told me sms were supposed to be 500 characters when i signed up, yea i believed them, haha
On most other Bell phones I think the limit is 160 (on the Touch it's 140). Perhaps that is because the Touch lets you enter a “subject” line? At any rate is it possible to extend it and then I can experiment with how long a message I can send.
So you just want it to allow you to type a message more then 160 characters? For instance if you go over that it will allow you to continue to type but when you send it then it will break it up into however many messages that it needs too? Or are you trying to send a message in on txt that is longer then 160?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_message_service#Message_Size
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_message_service#Message_Size
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Thats all fine and good but that doesn't answer the question. Sorry if that comes off a little rude(not intended offensively). That merely explains the concept of SMS and how it can be 70-160 characters depending on bits. It is also for the GSM service whereas we have CDMA devices.
Thanks for trying though.
dharvey4651 said:
Thats all fine and good but that doesn't answer the question. Sorry if that comes off a little rude(not intended offensively). That merely explains the concept of SMS and how it can be 70-160 characters depending on bits. It is also for the GSM service whereas we have CDMA devices.
Thanks for trying though.
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Well, like it or not, that material is extremely relevant, because the priorities are interoperability and economy of transmission. Sprint originally *tried* to go on its own with its Shortmail service, which allowed 1000 chars, but it fell down on precisely those two issues: the long messages would only work within the Shortmail system and obviously could not work across other carriers, and its implementation was not "lightweight", but relied on the Internet and dedicated website -- not economical at all. Obviously in the end, Sprint folded up and joined the rest of the world in supporting standard SMS specs. The great part about SMS is that it uses so little resources and therefore can co-exist with voice channels and doesn't require a "heavyweight" data channel (of course that means transporting SMSs cost carriers next to nothing to provide and yet carriers can charge $$$ for SMS)...
Previously on any GSM phone I've had, txt msgs were 160 characters (if longer it would span to multiple messages). Now that I've moved to Bell (CDMA), the Touch only allows 140 before spanning. If you type an accented character by mistake (such as with the accented a character always popping up), it doesn't tell you, but the message gets clipped down to 70 characters (and spanned across multiple). I suspect these missing 20 characters are related to some sort of character-set identification, specifying the bit-count of the characters you're using. When you use an accented character, you get 16-bit characters, resulting in even less.
Long story short, there should be some way to get 160 character messages, as that's the "standard" for most providers. Whether its possible on our phones is another question. Also, has anyone else noticed that our phone won't join multi-sms messages back into a single message? If someone sends me a message of 200 characters, I literally get 2 seperate messages, whereas on my previous GSM Atom, it went and joined it back into one...
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Also, has anyone else noticed that our phone won't join multi-sms messages back into a single message? If someone sends me a message of 200 characters, I literally get 2 seperate messages, whereas on my previous GSM Atom, it went and joined it back into one...
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I have noticed that I am now getting multiple messages from the same person and they obviously look like one long message broken up. I don’t know if my Razr (my previous phone) used to reassemble them or if I just never received such long text messages before but in any case I have only noticed it since getting the Touch.
If the network automatically splits up long text messages and most phones reassemble the message back into one then what would be the problem with allowing the Touch/Vogue, or any phone for that matter, to send messages of 160, 200, 300 whatever length? Especially if this is as light on network resources as they?
Can anyone confirm the 140 vs. 160 character limit due to the subject line present in the Touch? It might seem like a small difference but that extra 20 characters can really come in handy!! Percentage wise it’s a pretty big difference.
I'm not sure if this is an EVO issue or a Sprint issue as I've always used AT&T before.
Is there a reason I can only receive about 1 SMS per minute and multi-part sms show up in parts rather than as one long message? The default Messaging app and Handcent seem to operate the same.
Any insight?
Thanks
Sprint has limited the number of characters in their messages for some time now, but I usually get the other parts of messages back-to-back. Well, maybe it took another 20 seconds for the 2nd part to come in, but it hasn't taken a whole minute.
Go to the market and download ChompSMS. It gives you the option to either split up the texts or receive them all at once.
Whoa ChompSMS will do that!? Like it will wait for everything to come in, compile it in order, and spit it to you in one SMS? If thats true thats awesome. Some of my friends write novels from their iPhones like little girls. Ill get all 17 pages at random times in random order. Ugh.
Well you can send texts out that are more than 160 characters. I think that you can receive them all at one too
Better yet...send yourself a text using chomp and go past the 160 character limit. See if it splits it up or not.
Handcent does the same. It even gives you the option to customize how you want it split. Split by letter, by word, etc., etc.
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Handcent does the same. It even gives you the option to customize how you want it split. Split by letter, by word, etc., etc.
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Where is this option?
AcIdC0R3 said:
Handcent does the same. It even gives you the option to customize how you want it split. Split by letter, by word, etc., etc.
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Are you sure this effects receiving the message? I thought this only had to do with splitting the messages you are sending.
I hate when i get the second half of the message first.....Reply like ???? and then get the first half after i reply......
The person sending can also send them as a MMS (multi media message) which lets you do much more text.
i cant see the option to receive messages > 160 characters at once in chompSMS... I've looked everywhere
hydralisk said:
i cant see the option to receive messages > 160 characters at once in chompSMS... I've looked everywhere
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Have you received a text message that is more than 160 characters? I sent one to myself that was almost 300 and it all came in at one time. I then had a friend send me one, about the same size and it all came in one text...granted it was super long and took up the whole page.
What you could do is this -
SETTINGS > SMS NETWORK > MOBILE CARRIER SETTINGS > CDMA SPLIT
Make sure this is unchecked.
Reboot the phone and send yourself a >160 character text message and see what happens.
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Have you received a text message that is more than 160 characters? I sent one to myself that was almost 300 and it all came in at one time. I then had a friend send me one, about the same size and it all came in one text...granted it was super long and took up the whole page.
What you could do is this -
SETTINGS > SMS NETWORK > MOBILE CARRIER SETTINGS > CDMA SPLIT
Make sure this is unchecked.
Reboot the phone and send yourself a >160 character text message and see what happens.
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This didn't work for me. Can anybody else confirm this?
Well after updating ChompSMS last night, it seems that I cannot receive texts like I used to. I can still get more than 160 characters, but not like I did before.
Oh well...most people I SMS with don't have the ability to send really long text messages anyways. Hope you guys can find something useful.