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GPRS fails with RSU 4.20 4.21

After upgrading my O2 XDA 64Mb (was 32MB upgraded by expansys), it no longer connects to GPRS.
I have tried both the mobile web and wap connections, but the message i get is
"There is not answer at the number dialed. Verify phone number and then try again. To chage your connection settings, tap Settings. If the problem continues, contact your ISP or network administrator."
This was a 'clean' upgrade (ie. I haven't restored any backup after the reset). I am now on 3.17/4.21 ENG O2 versions.
Any help appreciated.

When you say "after upgrading" do you mean after a ROM upgrade, or after the memory upgrade?
This could be nightmare cos (as i'm sure you know) the memory upgrade will have voided your warranty. If its happening straight after the memory upgrade then maybe you can go back to expansys and get them to pay for fixing it if they are responsible.
If it has happened after the ROM upgrade then check if all setting have gone back into the device. The error message sounds like settings.

It was since installing the RSU upgrade. I thought about settings, but I have done autoconfigure - and not changed anything else. I've check the AP name, and speed etc. What else?

I also had this problem once it wasnt from the device it was from the Operator i didnt use the Auto settings i have created my own settings and finaly i called the customer support at my operator and solved everything i hope this would help try it.
:wink:

Hmm... now I can't downgrade my rom either.
Can anyone get me radio 4.16 for XDA as a file for rom image tool?

xdarit does not yet have support for creating gsm rom update cards.

FREE XDA

Hello all,
well it is not 100% free, you need to earn it.
The price is to allow me to downgrade the RSU to 4.16
I am unable to do this and have tried so many things so far without any success.
I have RSU 3.23 now
ROM wise, I have no problem, I can change it using the SD method and the ismgtool.
Well, I am sure you will ask, what is the guarntee? Tkae my word for it for the time being and try me.
You can send me a private message or e-mail me ([email protected])
If I receive the solution from more than person, I will look at the time I have received the pm/e-mail and the prize will go to the eriler responder.
HURRY :!:
and the winner is: to be updated

and the winner is:
no winner yet!!
Work harder folks

You have "RSU 3.23" and want to **downgrade** to "4.16"? What am I missing :?: :?:

yeah, numbers are meaninless!
Anyway, just solve to me the issue of downgrading 3.23

Hmmm ! i guess you can't
Hello
as far i know and if my memory still works i read something which says you Can not roll back to older version and that was on the 3.23.01 release note.
HTC Advice not to try to downgrade your GSM cause you might distroy your device and lose the GSM capabilities.
also few other issues include
Fixed: SIM unlock code hacked
1. Disable memory dump function.
2. Unlock code encryption.
Fixed: Do not auto-reactivate PDP context when network reject PDP context activation
Fixed: Specific message should store in SIM without affecting the VMI
Solution: Change the DCS of specific OTA message from 0x00 to 0xf2 (Store message to SIM)
Fixed: After dail a wrong number, dail second call with correct number within 30 seconds,
this call will be established for 2 seconds, then be automatically cancelled.
Solution: ACI state is not syncronize to MMI state. Syncronize the state of ACI and MMI.
Fixed: USSD Problem
Fixed: Inter-SGSN Issue
regards
Othman
www.pocketpc4arab.com

Othman,
are you replying to a different topic? :?
What is the relation between what you have written and the downgrading issue?

Place adaptrom.exe in the up or down grade application folder.
run adaptrom, then the up or downgrade application.
This will change the rom as well as the radio stack.
einas_canada said:
Hello all,
well it is not 100% free, you need to earn it.
The price is to allow me to downgrade the RSU to 4.16
I am unable to do this and have tried so many things so far without any success.
I have RSU 3.23 now
ROM wise, I have no problem, I can change it using the SD method and the ismgtool.
Well, I am sure you will ask, what is the guarntee? Tkae my word for it for the time being and try me.
You can send me a private message or e-mail me ([email protected])
If I receive the solution from more than person, I will look at the time I have received the pm/e-mail and the prize will go to the eriler responder.
HURRY :!:
and the winner is: to be updated
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Click to collapse

you can send me the device, i can run over it with my car, get AT&T to replace it with a new one ( I have insurance from them) and BAM! start from scratch

OK, how about this:
1. Obtain the RSUpdate.exe and accompanying files for the radio stack version you want to upgrade/downgrade to.
2. Copy them to the \Windows folder on your device
3. On the device (use File Manager), run RSUpdate.exe. This will manually update the radio stack.
4. Send the free XDA to me, since a winner is me!
JoshB

2JoshB: It is not so easy as you wish.
You may not downgrade 4.21 radio to 3.19 and below in this way (though it is Ok for greater versions). The restriction is by design and appears during actual uploading to radio module due to some kind of _internal_ checking.
I can suggest the following:
-convert RSUpgrade.cp64 you want to upload to binary format. Let it be 3.19 for example
-try to find 03 13 and 13 03 entries (= 3.19 in hex)
-If entries are exists -try to replace them with 04 15 or 15 04 accordingly (= 4.21 in hex).
-convert RSUpgrade.cp64 back to text
-try to flash these files in the usualj way (upload to windows etc...)
But this way is very dangerous. I mean that such a stupid replacement may corrupt radio stack code, so your radio will be broken completely.
More than that: radio stack version checking may be implemented not by number but features available in RSU. So version changes may not be enough to downgrade radio.
the more reliable way is to disassemble radio stack and bypas version checking in more sensible way. But unfortunately my qualification is not enough for doing this.

falconeyez said:
you can send me the device, i can run over it with my car, get AT&T to replace it with a new one ( I have insurance from them) and BAM! start from scratch
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Can we send you a whole box to drive over ?

Till now, there is no winner

Will there ever be............

Prove the solution is working and there will be.
Soultions that work once like driving the car over it are not acceptable :lol:

Come On guys!

Qtek freeze

On Monday 18.05, I have upgraded to qtek v. 1.66. Since then, these last 2 days, around 8 pm, the BT light start flashing and the qtek does not work any more. Making a soft reset just stop the green light. The only solution I found is a hard reset. Installed programs: SPB 2.0, wimram, ezwap, vito button mapper. Perhaps is one of these program not compatible. I will now wait until tonight 8 pm, withour reinstalling any programs and see if i need to downgrade to older version.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thank you in advance
Dtipex

i have that issues once in awhile
is use spd but not version 2
my qtek 2020 came with 1.66
this mean i use backup and restore often
suppose i could try to leave it default
and see if it's a program doing the stuff

are u using a SD512 card? if yes try to remove it and see if the forced hard.reset is still needed.

i use a 128MB and a few times removing it helped but in general it dont help
nor does removing the batt or sim
or trying to charge it which it cant when it's frozen
suppose it could be a hardware issue but odd that a hardreset always solve it then

I am getting same problem, but with me , it can happen without warning, i cannot switch on, no response to any soft reset attempt, only solution is to do a forced hard reset. Happened now 5 times in 1 month, (new i-mate v.1.66) programs installed, sprite backup v3. PI v5, spb plus v2, hudsonmobile phone dashboard, spb gprs monitor, resco file explorer, fitaly, phatpad, phat notes and scary bear check notifiaction (usually no more than 11 listed). It is a nuisance, but i no have confidence in hard reset and restore with sprite backup working well, i now keep regular backups. I am very interested to know if there any any potential conflics etc. I have seen in some of the threads oin this forum that soft reset 5 times at the start of hard reset, when the red tect appears bottom right, can work, I will try next time.

For me it's under multie last version.
Sometimes it's freeze 10s.
Before I do hard reset but now I wait and its works.

wonder if it could have anything to do with the strange max process limit bug
or if people who dont install any software themselfs also get it after X time

Exactly the same problem:
Sometime the blue light goes on, don't know if that is the same problem.
But hangs with a black screen, no backlight, no button response and no light after a bat change or softreset.....
Operator version: 3.66.3.171
ROM version: 1.66.00WWE
ROM date: 02/20/04
Radio version: 1.10.00
Protocol version: 1337.18
ExtROM version 1.66.171
SD256 Toshiba-card
Software:
TomTom 3, Spb plus 2.0, Calendar+
I thought the problem was the the option in the today screen; "Display Today screen if device is not used for xxx hours. I set the option off, but i not really tested it.

After much research reading different posts and threads, it seems many of us using ROM version 1.66.00we are getting the same problem. It seems it is something to do with the radio. Owners of earlier versions are not posting these concerns. apparently v1.66 can not be downgraded to the more stable 1.52. According to some posts, a new version 1.72 will be released shortly, which hopefully will solve problem. Check the posts on this site regarding the 1.72 beta release. I am getting fed up with these issues, imate costs a small fortune and its reliablity is a dissappointment to what is otherwise a great device.

what radio does 1.5 and 1.7 use because my 1.66 have 1.10.00

it seems that i-mate devices which came originally with ROM 1.52 had the radio 1.06 and for those who have subsequently upgrade to 1.52 from an earlier ROM 1.03 they get the 1.10 radio stack.

Phone hangs

Howdy
I use the exec as my phone and have a bit of an issue. I have found that the phone hangs and I don't get calls (go straight to VM ) no rings etc.
when I try to dial out it says service not available
I reset the device ad all is fine.
the only thing I can think on is Magic Button
I have uninstalled it for now to be sure.
is there a better phone to use then the one with the Exec?
I am looking for any assistance with this.
I have all my apps installed on the 1g SD card
including Ewallet, Pocket PC Bible,
I had magic button installed but since have gotten rid of it.
any other info I can provide to help in diagnosis just ask

im having alike issue too alto didnt install aplicaltion uch as yours,
the only thing i got is a video player from a 3rdparty and an SNES emulator..
my hpne sometime is not taking the call and send them to VM too but worst soemtime it switch off on my self !
so im gonna try WM6 now and see if it fixes the issue [email protected]

timhellsten said:
Howdy
I use the exec as my phone and have a bit of an issue. I have found that the phone hangs and I don't get calls (go straight to VM ) no rings etc.
when I try to dial out it says service not available
I reset the device ad all is fine.
the only thing I can think on is Magic Button
I have uninstalled it for now to be sure.
is there a better phone to use then the one with the Exec?
I am looking for any assistance with this.
I have all my apps installed on the 1g SD card
including Ewallet, Pocket PC Bible,
I had magic button installed but since have gotten rid of it.
any other info I can provide to help in diagnosis just ask
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did u try hard resetting the device! perhaps that may help. by the way which version of ROM you got on your phone.

Phone Hangs
Hello here is my phone data
Device O2 XDA
OS: Win Mobile 5.0 build 14847.2.0.0
ROM 1.30.107 WWE
ROM Date 04/11/06
RADIO Version 1.09.00
Protocol Version 42.42.p8
EXTRom Version 1.30.162 WWE
I have the device set in corporate mode with code from this forum
Software installed
Ewallet on SD Card
Olive tree bible on SD Card
Removed magic Button (remove programs)
any thoughts
Help needed... want a more stable device..

timhellsten said:
Hello here is my phone data
Device O2 XDA
OS: Win Mobile 5.0 build 14847.2.0.0
ROM 1.30.107 WWE
ROM Date 04/11/06
RADIO Version 1.09.00
Protocol Version 42.42.p8
EXTRom Version 1.30.162 WWE
I have the device set in corporate mode with code from this forum
Software installed
Ewallet on SD Card
Olive tree bible on SD Card
Removed magic Button (remove programs)
any thoughts
Help needed... want a more stable device..
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That's strange because the O2 standard ROM (AKU 2) is usually quite stable and quick. I wonder if the problem may lie in running your apps from SD card (which tends to be slower than the internal memory unless the card is fastand reliable) - maybe this is slowing the phone down and causing it to miss calls.
A number of suggestions - try first uninstalling all your apps and reinstalling them one by one testing the phone as you go. That may show the culprit app. If that doesn't work, try reflashing the ROM (using the software on the O2 xda website). If that doesn't work, try upgrading the radio to 1.14.1. I find this very stable on O2. If that doesn't work, try upgrading the CE ROM (you might like to start with one of the AKU 3.3 or 3.5 ROMs). If that doesn't work, you may be looking at a hardware fault.
If you need to know how to upgrade a ROM - read the wiki (several times if you've not done it before!)

Will try
Howdy
Will try your suggestions for sure.
Thanks very much for the help...
Tim

qtek 2020, no service but sms and gprs work

i have a wierd problem i had qtek 2020 with wm2003 and german rom, so i upgraded it to wwe wm6... it worked fine for a day, but msn refused to sign in so i installed windows live... since then it shows "no service" and phone and contacts apps fail to start but sms and gprs work fine...
i tried flashing it to wm6.1 and it works the same... i noticed one thing: after first upgrade, all data was gone but after this one all my sms and stuff (notes, etc.) were there... at this point i notice that there's one sms that can't be deleted or marked as read
also after every flashing, when i restart phonr, i get bunch of errors for apps that were in startup of previous wm...
when i checked device information, there wasn't anything standing for extrom version so i guess that's the problem but can't find any extrom upgrade files :|
thanks in advance

Which version of WM6.1 did you install and did you follow all instructions when installing?