There's two type of ROM upgrades: Operating System ROM upgrades and Radio Stack Upgrades.
Radio Stack Upgrades:
Radio Stack upgrades are distributed by the devices resellers. They come in packages with names that may or may not include "Programme B" or "RSU", and they are usually about 2 MB in size. Version numbers are a mess, and lower version numbers do not mean earlier versions. There's at least three different paths of version numbering out there, and the version number on the file doesn't always match the version number displayed at boot and by 'Device Information'.
The official Radio Stack Upgrade process is a mess. We've seen way too many people wreck their devices doing nothing weird or strange. Our advice regarding Radio Stack upgrades is to get them from your own device provider (so you know it's for you type of device: 900/1800 or 900/1900 MHz), and to only upgrade if you know the upgrade will fix known issues that are bothering you.
Operating System Upgrades:
Operating System upgrades are distributed by the resellers in packages whose names may contain "Programme A" or "RUU" (to confuse things, RUU stands for "Radio Unit Upgrade", even though they do not upgrade the Radio part but the PDA part). Operating System upgrades are usually 15 MB in size, and unless you use our utility 'adaptROM', they will only install on phones sold by specific resellers in specific markets.
In this community, the OS is sometimes also distributed as .nb1 file, for use with our XDArit tool. These files are often zipped to about 15 MB, uncompressed they are 32MB (well: 32 MB minus 256 kB actually).
We've seen a number of people doing terrible things to their devices by upgrading their OS ROMs. Here's what we've seen:
- It appears someone is distributing an EXE file for the PPC2003 ROM that contains a part of the OS in the spot where the bootloader needs to be. People that use this EXE to upgrade to 2003 may experience problems immediately or later on, possible making their device unusable.
- We've observed our XDArit tool in the hands of people that should not be using it. If you don't know what a DOS box is, or think you can rename .nb1 files to .nb0, or if you generally do not feel technically proficient, do not use XDArit. It's as simple as that.
(We also blame ourselves for this: XDArit is very counter-intuitive in some parts, and is long-due for an overhaul....)
- Apart from the above, there seem to be problems for people getting back from PPC2003 to earlier versions of the OS. We've been busy doing other things, and we haven't really researched this yet.
- It seems the exe files Jeff makes are OK, and if they aren't, people would know pretty quickly. We advise against running exe-files from others until we've found what causes this 'bootloader mangling' we've observed.
Thanks for your warnings. I just checked my device information. It reads rom version 3;14.06 ENG, Rom date 10/01/02, Radio Version T313. Being not technical at all. Your advice is not to upgrade the Rom or de radio version.
But that leaves me with some problems. F.i. when I try to synchronize with Outlook on my pc. I keep losing mails. The only mails being synchronized at all are those from my inbox. A series of attachments cannot be converted and there is no way to know which mails they are in. I was also hoping that a rom-update would solve my constant memory-lack.
Are there any other solutions?
Upgrade Fails
We have been upgrading some ATEK's with success, but we have two that don't want to upgrade. The message is:
"Can not open COM/USB port...." \\Can someine help...
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scalci said:
We have been upgrading some ATEK's with success, but we have two that don't want to upgrade. The message is:
"Can not open COM/USB port...." \\Can someine help...
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:wink: it's same problem that i have but the slution is download the XDA-dev's XDAtools.exe and cook your ROM then save it on your SD-card
for me it's work 100% my Qtek provieder in Saudi Arbia said that you can't downgread ROM after you do upgread but what ?? it's work
:lol:
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Upgrade radio fail
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I read it a bit too late.
I download ROM from O2 site, program A (3.20.06ENG) and program B(4.21). Upgarded my xda with program A, after reset it works. When upgrade the radio program B it hang for half hour. After reset the xda does not boot!
Is there a way i can flash back the ROM so that i can use back my xda?
Original version ROM 3.17.03ENG and radio 3.14.
Thanks in advance.
After upgrad radio from 4.16 to 4.21, My O2 does not reset or hardreset normally. After a long process, I get a blank screen with only input icon on the lowwer right corner. How to fix it now?
problem solved.
inaccess said:
problem solved.
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How have you done it ?
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pcloo said:
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I read it a bit too late.
I download ROM from O2 site, program A (3.20.06ENG) and program B(4.21). Upgarded my xda with program A, after reset it works. When upgrade the radio program B it hang for half hour. After reset the xda does not boot!
Is there a way i can flash back the ROM so that i can use back my xda?
Original version ROM 3.17.03ENG and radio 3.14.
Thanks in advance.
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I did the exact same thing and had the same problem. anything I could do to had my xda up and running again?
thanx in advance
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darkdragoon said:
pcloo said:
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I read it a bit too late.
I download ROM from O2 site, program A (3.20.06ENG) and program B(4.21). Upgarded my xda with program A, after reset it works. When upgrade the radio program B it hang for half hour. After reset the xda does not boot!
Is there a way i can flash back the ROM so that i can use back my xda?
Original version ROM 3.17.03ENG and radio 3.14.
Thanks in advance.
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I did the exact same thing and had the same problem. anything I could do to had my xda up and running again?
thanx in advance
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If you push the power buttom and than do a hard/cold reset do you get a bootloader ???
If so you need a storage card and put a good rom on it.
Read more on this forum
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I got a problem yesterday night, while trying to updgrade the ROM with the XDA developers Special Edition ROM v1.2, I got the message from the tool saying it will take up to 5 min and a scroll bar appeared on the XDA and not removing it from its base.
But I accidently removed it (in fact, I caught my foot on the damn wire and everything went to the floor).
Now nothing works, except the diagnostic bootloader when I reset and press on button. Hard reset changes noting.
The screen when I hard-reset it shows the scrollbar that was displayed when I tried to upgrade it.
ActiveSync does not recognize it anymore (PC beeps when the XDA is put in craddle, but it does go further).
Any idea how to put back original ROM content ? I have backup of the content made with Active Sync.
I own a SX-56 and subscribe to Rogers AT&T; I guess my config is identical to a AT&T phone, as it's written on top
Any suggestion will be welcomed
Bernard
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droletbe said:
I got a problem yesterday night, while trying to updgrade the ROM with the XDA developers Special Edition ROM v1.2, I got the message from the tool saying it will take up to 5 min and a scroll bar appeared on the XDA and not removing it from its base.
But I accidently removed it (in fact, I caught my foot on the damn wire and everything went to the floor).
Now nothing works, except the diagnostic bootloader when I reset and press on button. Hard reset changes noting.
The screen when I hard-reset it shows the scrollbar that was displayed when I tried to upgrade it.
ActiveSync does not recognize it anymore (PC beeps when the XDA is put in craddle, but it does go further).
Any idea how to put back original ROM content ? I have backup of the content made with Active Sync.
I own a SX-56 and subscribe to Rogers AT&T; I guess my config is identical to a AT&T phone, as it's written on top
Any suggestion will be welcomed
Bernard
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You need a storage card (32 MB or more SD or MMC will do) and a reader/writer for it,
than write a rom on the card, put it in your devices an start the boot loader, than if everthing went good it will ask you if you wanted to update the rom.
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Weezer-DC said:
darkdragoon said:
pcloo said:
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I read it a bit too late.
I download ROM from O2 site, program A (3.20.06ENG) and program B(4.21). Upgarded my xda with program A, after reset it works. When upgrade the radio program B it hang for half hour. After reset the xda does not boot!
Is there a way i can flash back the ROM so that i can use back my xda?
Original version ROM 3.17.03ENG and radio 3.14.
Thanks in advance.
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I did the exact same thing and had the same problem. anything I could do to had my xda up and running again?
thanx in advance
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If you push the power buttom and than do a hard/cold reset do you get a bootloader ???
If so you need a storage card and put a good rom on it.
Read more on this forum
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Yes, I got the Wallaby bootloader and it said GSM failed.
Pls show me where about I could get more info on the forum.
ThanX in advance.
Re: Upgrade radio fail
Weezer-DC said:
droletbe said:
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Now nothing works, except the diagnostic bootloader when I reset and press on button. Hard reset changes noting.
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Any idea how to put back original ROM content ? I have backup of the content made with Active Sync.
...
Any suggestion will be welcomed
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You need a storage card (32 MB or more SD or MMC will do) and a reader/writer for it,
than write a rom on the card, put it in your devices an start the boot loader, than if everthing went good it will ask you if you wanted to update the rom.
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Any place/URL to look for such thing as the ROM and the writer ? How much should I expect ?
Thanks for your help
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droletbe said:
Weezer-DC said:
droletbe said:
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Now nothing works, except the diagnostic bootloader when I reset and press on button. Hard reset changes noting.
...
Any idea how to put back original ROM content ? I have backup of the content made with Active Sync.
...
Any suggestion will be welcomed
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You need a storage card (32 MB or more SD or MMC will do) and a reader/writer for it,
than write a rom on the card, put it in your devices an start the boot loader, than if everthing went good it will ask you if you wanted to update the rom.
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Any place/URL to look for such thing as the ROM and the writer ? How much should I expect ?
Thanks for your help
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Now everything works ! And this accident "forced" me to buy an SD, so I will not be so limited by the 32Mb limit
Thank you very much
help needed....
i hard reseted my qtek 1010 .... its like 30mins ....and am still gettin 4 bands white red greem blue... is that normal ...that hard reset take this much time... if this si not normal ... what should i do next
Bootloader not recognising sd card image
I am having the same problem. When pressing power and reset, bootloader shows v 5.17 GSM fail.
I have an sd card which has a new bootloader and nb1 file on it. I do a reset with the card in the slot and i get the same screen v517 GSM fail. From what i have read i should be getting an option to upload the new rom.
Can some one help me out please?
If I currently turn the device on normally activesync does not recognise the device.....
The sd card I have was configured using the xdirt programme and it appears to have worked as the sd card is shows not formatted now...
Thanks for all the info and warnings, just got my XDA II today and Im not too hot with it yet so I guess I will be leaving the ROM's alone for the time being
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Radio Stack Upgrades:
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We have several system where the GSM rom is toast. Is there a way to get a GSM Rom to SD w/o using the PC Monitor program?
The systems will successfully bootup and we have tried loading the GSM rom using RSUpgrade, but it fails after 1%.
Is there any other way to recover the GSM Rom?
You may try speaking to Cgigate on this forum, he has hardware methods of programming the chips directly, whether it works for the radio stack as well as the bootloader and rom you will need to ask him.
Hi , I really need help from you guys here. I got a used dopod900 set, but when i boot up it shows O2 logo instead. meaning its actually dopod 900 with O2 rom. Well it actually do not bother me that much, but when I did a hard reset, it seems to me something is really wrong. I could no longer see SIM MANAGER, or things like Auto Config and some other programs. I can see that the rom is the latest i have but then i could not see the ver of the ext rom on the device.
I tried unlocking the ext rom with buzz's tool and it say success but I can's see it anywhere in the device even if I install Total Commander on it and also not able to see the ver of the ext rom too. I know something must be wrong somewhere. I did a hard reset as per what the manual says and follow through, and when its customizing the device automatically i can see there are installations like installing autoconfig....simmanager.. and even dopodasia.. and so on. But i don see anything on the programs listing or anywhere in the devices that these programs are around. So i wonder what happen. When i launch IE the first time i got the set i was about to see Dopod on the IE page, but after the hard reset it now shows 'Mobile Operator" and "OEM" I am still able to use the device nomally. but if when i need to do a hard reset it will be very tedious on me as I need the sim Manager to read my SIM data, presently i am learing the hard way of keying it manually.
I hope experts here will guide me through. Thanks!
Just download the ROM of your choice and flash it to that ROM.. problem all fixed.
The rom is already the most updated one. do i still need to download the rom? whether is a o2 rom or dopod 900 rom does not really matters to me that much, but at least all the major applications are able to use.
Well it sounds like your extended ROM was removed or not installed or whatever, and I take it you want it back. Flashing a new ROM (doesnt matter version) will put everything on.
Just upgraded the firmware on my Cingular 8525. I downloaded the latest version from the ftp website.
rom version 2.06.502.3
rom date 02/02/07
radio version 1.34.00.10
protocol version 32.67.7020.10h
What the phone does. The phone still works and I can make out going phone calls, but I am unable to download my mail or bring up web pages. It comes up as web page can not be loaded. I've tried to search for an answer but have not found anything yet.
I am using an old att sim.
Thanks
Scott
Scott,
Have you checked to see if the connection settings are set on the device (settings - connections)? Perhaps the ROM upgrade (is a Cingular one or HTC?) does not contain those settings - in that case you will need to manually enter them. Perhaps this might help: http://forums.mobiledia.com/topic18250.html - not sure if the settings in here are right for your service or contract. A search here and on MoDaCo: http://www.modaco.com/HTC-Hermes-HermesMoDaCocom-f204.html might also provide the settings that you need
Good luck
My connection settings are correct. They were working before I upgrade the firmware. I am using Att settings which is proxy. Unless with the new firmware they changed. I think it might have to do with the bootloader being 1.09 I just trying to figure this out.
Thanks for your help,
Scott
So you are old ATT Blue in USA, correct?
Running the RUU 2.06 with Radio 1.34?
Do another hard reset as some times the first boot is not letting the entire Ext_rom complete, I do not know why but it happens sometimes on the new Cingular ROM.
After that if it doenst work then go to Cingular.com and check your GPRS setting in the "Connection" part of your setting and make sure the settings include the correct user name (wap.cingular.......... and password CINGULAR1..... etc)
i have a wierd problem i had qtek 2020 with wm2003 and german rom, so i upgraded it to wwe wm6... it worked fine for a day, but msn refused to sign in so i installed windows live... since then it shows "no service" and phone and contacts apps fail to start but sms and gprs work fine...
i tried flashing it to wm6.1 and it works the same... i noticed one thing: after first upgrade, all data was gone but after this one all my sms and stuff (notes, etc.) were there... at this point i notice that there's one sms that can't be deleted or marked as read
also after every flashing, when i restart phonr, i get bunch of errors for apps that were in startup of previous wm...
when i checked device information, there wasn't anything standing for extrom version so i guess that's the problem but can't find any extrom upgrade files :|
thanks in advance
Which version of WM6.1 did you install and did you follow all instructions when installing?
Hi friends,
I recently bought a HTC HD2 locked to T Mobile in UK. I used a Rebel sim to unlock it and I am now using it on O2.
However I am not able to start internet, neither can I receive internet settings from O2.
The message that gets displayed tell the phone is pre set to T Mobile internet settings and these cannot be changed
Is there anyway I can bypass these? Anyone else faced same thing before?
Thanks
Metal
settings - menu - all settings - connections - there should be a connection setup option in there.
if not, use this
phoneroms.co.uk/Programs/connectionsetup.cab
instal it, reboot the phone, it will auto run when you restart and configure your phone.
samsamuel
thanks for reply.
Yes I went to that menu option but the only thing I see is TMobile.
I am asked to select country (i select as UK), then I am asked to select operator and only option I have is T - Mobile.
Besides when I click on any browser, I get the T Mobile flash screen and then the browser starts.
I get an error as I am not a T Mobile customer. I have a link for settings there. When I click that it says -
This connection is pre configured. It cannot be modified.
You need to flash the WWE HTC ROM, as the T-Mobile ROM has the internet settings preset and you cannot change them.
hollinshead...
Thanks for the reply. I was guessing so from the little bit of research I have done.
Can you please give me some pointers in that directions...not really handholding but some links or step by step guide ?
I am new to WinMo actually...have been a symbian loyalist till now !
Sorry for sounding lame, but what is WWE?
WWE = World Wide Edition
Thanks.
I tried to d/l it from the HTC site. When I enter the serial no. I get
Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device.
What are the other options I have? Other reputable links from where I can get it?
Can I d/l any ?
Thanks in advance
you probaly need to install hspl and then flash it
Thanks.
I got hold of a serial no after random searching. I entered that on HTC site and my download is in progress for WWE ROM.
Can I install it? Will that cause any adverse effects?
try using this network connection settings cab.
It appears you didn't try the one samsamuel posted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=250891&d=1259353814
It won't let you flash it to your device, it will give you an error.
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
midnight, samsamuel
That does indeed work and I am now able to use internet on O2 even though I am locked to T Mobile. However I cant receive network settings. With O2 you send active to 2020 and you receive the internet settings. I get a message back that there is a problem and contact customer services. That is not an issue now as I can use the internet.
However I am curious to know if I will be able to upgrade my ROM in the future. I downloaded the WWE ROM but I got 294 Error for invalid vendor when I tried to install
In simplistic terms what is HSPL? is that irreversible? Are there any links for tutorials which make it simple for WinMo beginners.
Sorry but its my first day on HD2 and on WinMobile
metal675 said:
midnight, samsamuel
That does indeed work and I am now able to use internet on O2 even though I am locked to T Mobile. However I cant receive network settings. With O2 you send active to 2020 and you receive the internet settings. I get a message back that there is a problem and contact customer services. That is not an issue now as I can use the internet.
However I am curious to know if I will be able to upgrade my ROM in the future. I downloaded the WWE ROM but I got 294 Error for invalid vendor when I tried to install
In simplistic terms what is HSPL? is that irreversible? Are there any links for tutorials which make it simple for WinMo beginners.
Sorry but its my first day on HD2 and on WinMobile
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Read the HSPL thread?
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Read the HSPL thread?
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Yes I did, but for someone who started using a new phone out of the box just few hours back, its a bit over the head.
I am trying to come to grips on what is HSPL, SPL, flashing, etc.
So I wanted to know if there is any basic tutorial, help pages etc which can be useful for starters. I am a tech guy so I can understand the tech terms but everyone needs a guidance first time around.