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ugrade to EDGE Network ???

Hi,
I was wondering if it would be possible to upgrade an XDAIIi, so it could be EDGE enabled. What do you think about it?

gillou94 said:
Hi,
I was wondering if it would be possible to upgrade an XDAIIi, so it could be EDGE enabled. What do you think about it?
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If it has not been manufactured with EDGE capability then no, it will not be possible.

I tought EDGE was just a software update of the GSM protocol ???

no it's ½ a generation after gsm
it's known as 2½G
where gsm is 2G and utms == 3g

I know I'm kind of hijacking the thread a bit, but I was curious about a few things...
I have the HTC Wizard/Cingular 8125 and even when I have the EDGE service indicated on the phone, it still seems a little slow. I'm using the Mr Clean ROM without any Cingular customizations... so I manually setup a GPRS connection to use. Do EDGE connections also work along the same GPRS settings? Or do I need to add some CABs from the cingular extended ROM to get the MEdia Net stuff to work at EDGE speeds?

tomhsx said:
I know I'm kind of hijacking the thread a bit, but I was curious about a few things...
I have the HTC Wizard/Cingular 8125 and even when I have the EDGE service indicated on the phone, it still seems a little slow. I'm using the Mr Clean ROM without any Cingular customizations... so I manually setup a GPRS connection to use. Do EDGE connections also work along the same GPRS settings? Or do I need to add some CABs from the cingular extended ROM to get the MEdia Net stuff to work at EDGE speeds?
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GPRS and EDGE both use the same settings - when you say slow, just how slow is it getting? What are your average speeds?

GPRS EDGE upgrade/hack possible?
So you're saying the EDGE hi-speed GPRS capability is a hardware item in the newer phones, and no type of software/Radio-ROM hack will enable EDGE speed on my XDA IIs (PH20B) ? I just want to be sure I understand correctly.

Re: GPRS EDGE upgrade/hack possible?
acroman said:
So you're saying the EDGE hi-speed GPRS capability is a hardware item in the newer phones, and no type of software/Radio-ROM hack will enable EDGE speed on my XDA IIs (PH20B) ? I just want to be sure I understand correctly.
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Yes you understand correctly.
Not only that but the transmitter tower also has to have the supporting hardware.

Is the wizard edge enabled ?

i am not aware of this?Or is there a software to enable this ?

yes the wizard works with edge. there is a hack to enable an indicator to show if you are connected to edge or gprs, but edge should work regardless. This indicator can be enabled by using RegistryWizard as well.

Is the registry hack just for the indicator ?
As far as the specs shows Wizard only has GPRS built in,how will u enble EDGE ?Or does it automatically work on EDGE also ?

As far as I know from personal experience and This T-mobile. com page, it is edge out of the box. I find the indicator quite useful, however (it appears as a small E or G in a box on the top bar near the signal...)

I'm running the latest cingular/summiter rom and it jumps for E to G every now and then. Isn't edge available when your accessible to GPRS?

Yes the wizard is capable of edge speeds and will use it when there is that availability on the network. Not all gprs networks have edge.

Ive got a question on this. I have a wizard with T-mobile and I am in a very covered city. but my T-mobile only says connecting to GPRS... like when i try loading a page, it says connecting to t-mobile GPRS, it never says EDGE. What is up with that. how do i fix it to load up EDGE?

EDGE is nothing but Enhanced GPRS. It is always "over" GPRS. So we always see a GPRS connection being made.
Have a look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution
"EDGE (also known as EGPRS) is a superset to GPRS and can function on any network with GPRS deployed on it, provided the carrier implements the necessary upgrades."
As far as the icon is considered, it will be "E" or "G" depending on if the "enhancements implemented" are working at the time or at the transmitters (towers) in the area.

So when it changes from E to G there really is a difference, not just a worthless symbol..
Also how can i test my connection speed on my wizard? I went to dslreports.com and did there wap tests and it told me 3kb/s which i highly doubt is my speed because it loads everything pretty fast.

use the HTML tests, not the WAP... They are much more accurate.

Hack to differentiate icon between GPRS and EDGE

Hi all.
I hacked the registry as suggested to get two different icons when under Edge coverage opposed to standard GPRS but my S200 always shows the G icon, never the E icon. Since at the moment I am sitting at about 2 miles from the Vodafone UK headquarters in Newbury I really doubt they haven't got Edge in their hometown, so something must be wrong with my phone or this hack is not working.
Is there anyone who has used this registry edit successfully? If so can you please specify if you are using Vodafone in the UK?
Thanks.
Anonimo

Do Vodafone support Edge?
Orange do but it only tends to be where they don't have 3G.
And yes I get G and E where appropriate.

Well since the Vodafone phone catalogue mentions when a phone supports Edge I assume that their GSM network has Edge capabilities.... It could be that they have not deployed it where there is 3G coverage but it seems strange that I have never been in a Edge area while driving around south England....

Here in the Netherlands is it Telfort that support EDGE and is the only one.
Vodafone support GPRS and UMTS here.
I've do the registry hack this morning and it works! I get the E at the place there was before a G.
I've tested my device it works on EDGE or GPRS:
My girlfriend has an Ipaq and a Samsun D500 with T-Mobile GPRS (supports only GPRS); mine is many quicker! A knowledge has a T-Mobile MDA Vario (with GPRS) and last week we have tested mine Qtek S200 and his MDA VARIO and mine was quicker!

I don't think Vodafone support EDGE anywhere in the continent. They support 3G (UMTS) only as far as I know.

I edited my registry to show an EDGE Icon, too...
And I almost forgot about it, because in germany no operator seems to support EDGE anywhere..
But I was in France just a week ago and there it showed that EDGE Icon instead of the G...
But I didn't test Edge, because I had a feeling that it would be to expensive..
I wouln'd worry... EDGE seems to be a technology that won't come up very far... 3G will overrun it, I think.

i thought only orange support EDGE? Anyway, the ONLY time i have ever had the "e" icon appear is on about a 2 mile length of track on the train back and forth to work in london. i live in west kent? i did a speed test and got about 60kbit/sec as apposed to the usual 38(ish)kbit/sec

HSDPA on T-Mobile NL

Hi all
I have a ?
I have a Tytn, WM6 XDA Live v0.20 from kyphur, HSDPA enabled and of course I have an HSDPA "abo" from T-Mobile.
My problem is as follow: I know from a collegue of mine that with this image, the H icon is enabled and that it's supposed to come up when you are actually on HSDPA. However I NEVER saw this icon witch to me means I never really was on HSDPA speed. I always have the 3G Icon.
Can someone confirm that you don't have to actually see the H icon to be using the HSDPA, that 3G is enough.
I'm curious.or maybe I missed something somewhere LOL.
Thnx in advance

Hehehe,
when you are in a area that has HSDPA, then you see 3G on your screen.
But don't forget to enable it with HTweakC.
Start --> Programs.
How long are u using internet, that u don't know 3G means fast internet and just G means slow internet. With T-Mobile it's standard.

If you read my post carefully you see that I know I have 3G and fast internet (I think I know a bit about internet hehe) BUT what I want to see is the H from HSDPA.This I never saw and I think that I'm suppose to see it. aren't I?

Hi I'm on t-mobile in the UK and I don't get the H either, I think it's a t-mobile thing. However, I know that I get high speed, I just don't get the icon.

Same here, (see my sig, definatly HSDPA speeds) i get HSDPA on O2 here and I NEVER see the H symbol (applied the patch and the reg entry IS present).
Im currently looking for the program (not sure what it is called) that returns the status of the HSDPA settings and etc... to see if you are TRUELY attached to a HSDPA network. Will report back when ive found it...
..EDIT! :: Found the program, it is the fieldtest program in the wiki pages
EDIT2::
Quick update people, i ran a speedtest on bandwidthplace from my TyTN, i got around 597kbps, checking the status on fieldtest shows i am NOT connected to HSDPA. Then again i ran it and got 1.1mbps....checked fieldtest and i am still NOT on HSDPA?!?!?!
From what ive read UMTS is usually around the 384kbps mark???? WHHHAAAATT is O2 doing ?? /me is intrigued!

597kbps mrvanx, that's what I get as well. That's why I know I'm on H as wel.Ha wel no icon is ok, it would have just made my day to just see it at least once LOL.

Edge Connection Problems

HI Everyone:
I just got my HTC P3650 Cruise and have problems connectiong to the regular Edge network with AT&T. I don't have 3G or HSDPA in the location that I'm at and it take a long time to search and lock in on the network. It is also very slow. I have a Tilt and it works perfect in Edge and 3G.
when I travel and go into a 3G/HSDPA area, the phone works like it is on broadband. I searches and receives the AT&T network instantly like my tilt and works without problems. It does not have a strong signal when it gets between buildings and inside concrete structures. My tilt has a lot better reception.
Is anyone having this same problem? Do you know of any setting that will correct this condition. I already changed the band setting from auto to specific for AT&T. It does not make a difference.

I have the HTC branded TyTn II. My problem is not exactly as yours but something similar. My TyTn II on an edge connection barely gets a download speed of 100 kbs. When I put the same SIM in my old HTC branded Touch I can occassionally peak at 200 kbs. So the edge speed on my TyTn II is usually half of what I can get on my Touch.
Obviously this is not an operator related problem as I am using the same SIM Card between the two devices. I don't have 3G in my country and the best is EDGE what I can get. Any suggestions or similar experiences would love to hear.

Edge Problems
I just flashed the radio 1.64.08.21 and it does not seem to make any difference on the network. I have not tried it in a 3G r HSPDA network yet.
Anyone else having problems connecting with the Polaris? When I change sims and putit into my tilt it works on all networks and flies. I don't know if AT&T is doing something to enhnace the phone on their network with all their applications. The only thing different is that I use a proxy server on the tilt.