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How do you disable EDGE and only use GPRS

I'd like to use ONLY GPRS and not EDGE. Is this possible?

I don't know of a way to do that (not to say it can't be done though). Out of curiousity, why do you not want to use EDGE?

I've been having intermittant problems with my EDGE/GPRS connection dropping. None of the usual fixes such as upgrading the radio rom, etc. seemed to help. One of the other threads here suggested that it was a network issue, and that the problems started since t-mobile implemented EDGE. My previous phone which only had GPRS, never had any issues, so I was curious to know if there was some connection between EDGE and intermittant disconnections.

I recently spoke with a tech support rep about the same problem. Turns out that they haven't allocated enough of the network to the MDA itself (EDGE will work fine on other devices). They don't know when the problem will be fixed and until then, you should go to connections, manage existing connections, click new, select cellular GPRS, and then internet2.voicestream.com. This will fix your problem, get you some EDGE speed, even thought it won't be nearly as fast as it should. I plan on complaining until the refund some of my data plan charge.

The same problem - with no solution ..
Actually I dont understand what you mean by not allocating enough network to MDA ..
Could you please explain it ?

I'm on AT&T, and I have the same problem. GPRS, whilst slow, is reliable. 3G/HSDPA is fast, even with very low signal strength. But EDGE is awful. Sometimes it works, but it's usually unbearably slow, if it works at all. There is a long time lag when the data mode (GPRS/EDGE/3G) switches to EDGE. ... and the problem is espeically bad when there's moderate to low signal (1-2 bars).
I'd like to be able to disable EDGE too, and use GPRS, without having to use 3G (as there's no coverage when I could use GSM coverage).

Kamskii, I think the confusion is that you're not using a Wizard, and this board is for Wizard users. You should repost this question on the Kaiser General board.

Why does iPhone get EDGE while my Tilt gets none?

At certain locations, my colleagues with iPhones on ATT's EDGE get a decent data connection while browsing & emailing while I get voice only - no data at all, even though both handsets show "E" with 4 bars. Elsewhere I am able to use the data connection as advertised.
The connection settings I have seen for iPhone EDGE use wap.cingular like MEdiaNet. I have tried everything I can think of - isp.cingular, 3G on/off, bandswitch, etc., to no avail.
I obviously don't understand the subtle differences between the iPhone & Tilt network connections, or the iPhone has much better reception (haven't seen one with a field test type prog), or I am not using the right network settings. ATT has provided the usual amount of insight and assistance on this issue.
Can anyone help?
Thanks

thanks,
i have spoken to ATT, i have been told to re-register the handset by power off/pull battery/reboot - doesn't work. They have also said that iphone edge is different than tilt edge...huh?
anyway, i think it may be that iphone probably gets better fringe reception than my tilt. i have tried a couple different radios with no change..
the 3G is much better than his edge connection, just can't get it in my current location.
cheers-

Looking for WM6.1 Pro for AT&T

hello im looking to get a cruise and was woundering if there is any or which WM6.1 pro do you all recommend for AT&T in the US...thanks in advanced...i have a tilt right now and always wanted to get the cruise...and just how good will it work on the AT&T 3G system...thanks again...

Cruise on AT&T
I have the Cruise on he AT&T and when it is on 3G everything works like clockwork. When it goes into the regular Edge network, it has a hard time connecting and takes forever to download or access the internet.
I am using 0.67 Bepe with 1.64.08.21 Radio. I have a Tilt and because it is optimized for AT&T, it works a lot better in Edge and 3G.

I have had no problem with the Cruise on ATT 3G. I actually have not had issues with device on Edge either. What I did notice was that 3G speeds differ from place to place in the states (also the icons shown were different).
On a sidenote I switched my phone to Edge and standing in the same room as my friend with an iPhone, we went to dslreports. Edge on my cruise was much faster than edge on his iphone, don't know why. with 3g turned on, it blew his *[email protected]% outta the water.

X1 Poor Reception

Hi
Received my X1 on Vodafone on Saturday. Main issue I have had is that of poor reception. I was previously comparing it to my Tytn II which was on T-mobile. I have not put a P&G vodafone sim in the Tytn-2 for some further testing.
I can state that the reception on the X1 is much worse than that on the Tytn II. They both show 2 bars, but the X1 keeps dropping the signal, while the Tytn holds onto it. This generally occurs while trying to use the device rather than when its just sat there - it will ring, but then drop the call when I handle it. If I cup it in my hands, it will drop the signal. If I do the same to the Tytn II, it survives. My advise to people would be that this is only a phone suitable for those who enjoy 3 bars most of the time. Maybe it will be improved via a firmware update, who knows - maybe it works better on 1800MHz or 2100MHz 3G than it does on the 900MHz GSM used by vodafone - this I cant test cause the device is sim locked.
All I can say is that on the same network at the same location, the X1 is vastly inferior to the Tytn II.
Mine is going back - trouble is that was the only phone out there worth buying... I want 800x480, keyboard, HSDPA/HSUPA - touch pro does not cut it, nor does touch HD, and no carrier seems to have picked up either of these two as yet. Looked at the G1, but its a V1.0 OS and I cant be arsed with the inevitable updates...
Any news on a touch hd pro (i.e with keyboard?)
Nigel

veletron said:
Hi
Received my X1 on Vodafone on Saturday. Main issue I have had is that of poor reception. I was previously comparing it to my Tytn II which was on T-mobile. I have not put a P&G vodafone sim in the Tytn-2 for some further testing.
I can state that the reception on the X1 is much worse than that on the Tytn II. They both show 2 bars, but the X1 keeps dropping the signal, while the Tytn holds onto it. This generally occurs while trying to use the device rather than when its just sat there - it will ring, but then drop the call when I handle it. If I cup it in my hands, it will drop the signal. If I do the same to the Tytn II, it survives. My advise to people would be that this is only a phone suitable for those who enjoy 3 bars most of the time. Maybe it will be improved via a firmware update, who knows - maybe it works better on 1800MHz or 2100MHz 3G than it does on the 900MHz GSM used by vodafone - this I cant test cause the device is sim locked.
All I can say is that on the same network at the same location, the X1 is vastly inferior to the Tytn II.
Mine is going back - trouble is that was the only phone out there worth buying... I want 800x480, keyboard, HSDPA/HSUPA - touch pro does not cut it, nor does touch HD, and no carrier seems to have picked up either of these two as yet. Looked at the G1, but its a V1.0 OS and I cant be arsed with the inevitable updates...
Any news on a touch hd pro (i.e with keyboard?)
Nigel
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my network is t-moble and the reception is excellent so far

i use swisscom in switzerland and didn't have any trouble so far

Voda X1 is not simlocked
Hi
I never tried my old t-mobile sim in the X1 I got from Vodafone cause I thought it would be simlocked. Well, its not its sim free. On T-mob (1800MHz), the X1 does indeed hold onto a signal better.
That does not change the fact that compared to the Tytn II on 900MHz vodafone, the X1 wont hold the signal as well.
Nigel

I've got 3 from sweden, and it drops the signal to!
When i'm at my girlfriends who also got 3 she got full signal and I got low-nothing.

I use Vodafone Network (UMTS/HSDPA) on 2100 MHz in Germany and it works really good.
The reception is quite the same compared to my TyTN, maybe the X1 is even slightly better, but definitely not worse for me.
I also have no issues with dropped calls and I use the HSDPA connection sometimes even with only 1-2 bars and it's very stable.
Reception quality is no problem for me though I had some strange audio issue (will report in a different thread).

i to got the same problems
bad reception in sweden both gsm and 3g with theese operators. telia 0-2 bars 5bars with my w595 and exactly the same resaults with comviq/tele2, tre and my current operator telenor, bytheway i got 6 phones up and running all the time but the X1 has by FAR the WORST reception ever, even my touch pro and diamond got much better reception.
hope there will be an radio update for my X1 SOON as it is by my meens the best smartphone ever made (exept reception and stylus) broke 4 stylus already (the plastic part at the top)
any1 else did this? with the stylus that is.

smaberg said:
broke 4 stylus already (the plastic part at the top)
any1 else did this? with the stylus that is.
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how did you manage do that?

yes I got the same poor reception problem here in UK
I am on O2 and I bought X1 as a sim free my other handset's shown least 3 bars on same network but on experia only 1 or 2 sometimes network not avaliable message appears also dropping the calls few times so my X1 has to go!

I've also moved across from Tmob to VF
The reception on my X1 was better than my advantage on tmob (I used the sim till my number switched over) pretty much everywhere, I struggled to get reception indoors at work on tmob previously but had 2 bars on G with the X1.
Conversely I'm now getting H signals at work with VF, but widely erratic Gprs coverage at home. Overall the VF coverage is nowhere near as good locally as Tmobs 3g.
I've lodged a complaint with VF as according to the coverage map I should be in the middle of a 3G cell, and this si what I was sold the contract on, about 50% of the time I get 2 bars of G at home, 50% nothing, and there doesn't seem to be any pattern to it, but like you the calls will get dropped seemingly randomly.
Last night I started getting a much more consistent signal at home, I'm not certain what's changed maybe they decided to look at the transmitter, but I'll monitor over the next few days.

I also get pretty crappy signal here in the U.S. with AT&T in Chicago. Just 2 bars on both HSDPA and EDGE. (850/1900mhz)
TYTN II and I-Mate 9502 get 4-5 bars...
This is with 3G turned on and off...
Hopefully, there will be an update soon..

For anyone with issues over UK coverage, you can check out what transmitters are where, and even send an email through to moan!
I've had responses in under 2 hours before.
http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/

Reception issue

I've placed my Omnia 7 next to my girlfriend's Focus in a place in my house that has traditionally been very poor in reception. She is able to get 1-2 bars on 3G compared to my NO SERVICE-zero bars on EDGE under the same network (ATT). Is anyone else getting fairly weak reception on their Omnia and is it all possible that my 4 year old SIM card is accounting for the difference in signal strength?
Next chance I get, I'll try swapping our SIMs....

I am not too sure of this but maybe the Omnia 7 isn't using its full potential on the US carrier since it is a EU device. (this shouldn't matter really but I am trying to say that it might be a software issue of how the phone switches connections)
By that I mean that some forum members (check the Focus Forum) have fiddled with the diagnostic codes to make their Focus phones have a more stable 3g or above connection.
Trying looking into that and posting there since the Omnia community is a little bit smaller it seems.
Or the phone is just not up to scratch ;D

Eriatarka said:
I've placed my Omnia 7 next to my girlfriend's Focus in a place in my house that has traditionally been very poor in reception. She is able to get 1-2 bars on 3G compared to my NO SERVICE-zero bars on EDGE under the same network (ATT). Is anyone else getting fairly weak reception on their Omnia and is it all possible that my 4 year old SIM card is accounting for the difference in signal strength?
Next chance I get, I'll try swapping our SIMs....
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It could be your SIM if its old and not a 3G sim. Do you get 3G elsewhere?
The reason i ask is that EDGE is a 2G tech.
I work in mobile tech support myself, and i have seen SIM cards cause some seemingly random issues. (1 in particular was a handset unable to read SIM contacts, but his prior phone was OK)
On the other hand, i have also noticed 1 bar less then was displayed by my prior HD2. I have dismissed this as you should not reply on the number or bars to determine signal strength. They are coded differently. There is no standard, and in fact, changes by the Carrier can effect 'bars' displayed on the phone. (Think of a little buzz box with a 20ltr tank reporting 1/2 full, while a 4x4 with a 40ltr tank reporting 1/4. Both have the same amount of fuel)

ive noticed i get a bar or two less than my girlfriends desire and my diamond2 all on the same network & with new sim cards. this generaly means when she has 3G or HSDPA im stuck with GPRS unless were in an area with 3 or 4 bars.

Not entirely sure, but I think the Omnia 7 doesn't support US 3G frequency bands, that's why it's limited to EDGE - and then it depends on where you live... I suppose it's entirely plausible AT&T has a strong 3G network in your area, but not an EDGE one

mine has a good reception ... as good as other devices ...

In my House I sometimes got 4 dots but when a call comes through the connection is lost between talk without walkin on the same spot.. First I thought ok bad reception (had not before with my xperia1) But yesterdaynight I got the same problem outside my home. So the conversation gets totally jammed.
And I live in the Netherlands and not in the county side but in the big city...

So I managed to switch the SIMs on my girlfriend's Focus and my Omnia and unfortunately the poor signal remained on the phone, ruling out the SIM card having any negative effect.
I will get 3G outside my home and sometimes 3G+ (I'm not sure what the difference is), but inside my house, side-by-side, the Focus gets better reception and is more often on 3G whereas my Omnia will get worse reception often on EDGE.
Lame!
I might have to drop some cash for ATT's Microcell... Damn you ATT.

I notice it as well.
When I used my HD, the reception was fine inside MRT tunnels. Now with my Omnia 7 (same SIM card, by the way), I can't get a clear signal inside MRT tunnels during my commute.
Shame.
I don't know what caused it, though.. Anyone can shed a light on the issue ?

Mine has just suddenly started to not have any signal ANYWHERE in the house... the other 2 Vodafone phones here have near-full signal.

Eriatarka said:
So I managed to switch the SIMs on my girlfriend's Focus and my Omnia and unfortunately the poor signal remained on the phone, ruling out the SIM card having any negative effect.
I will get 3G outside my home and sometimes 3G+ (I'm not sure what the difference is), but inside my house, side-by-side, the Focus gets better reception and is more often on 3G whereas my Omnia will get worse reception often on EDGE.
Lame!
I might have to drop some cash for ATT's Microcell... Damn you ATT.
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Hi I think I have found you a solution. Having been on the Focus forums I have noticed that people have enabled full "3g" through the root menu in diagnosis software.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839154&page=8 ..... read this first please. Looks like it enabled full 3g but messed up his GPS settings (could be that he configured it wrong) Always make sure that you write down your original settings when using Diagnosis tool!!!!!!
If this doesn't help you then maybe flashing a different rom onto it would work.

I played around with some of the diagnostic settings but nothing really changed.
How exactly do I access the root menu to change the 3G settings you mention?

*#197328640# - Root Menu
Things you can do with this code
Speed up your internet by enabling hspda/hsupa
*#197328640#
1,8,3,5,2,3,[END]
Just be careful with this stuff. And always remember to back up your previous settings by writing them down somewhere so that you can restore it.
The link I gave you above leads to these codes.
BTW .. samsung updated the diagnosis tool .. if you have 0.9 something you might be fine! But if it updated then you will not be able to get into the root menu.