I'd like to use ONLY GPRS and not EDGE. Is this possible?
I don't know of a way to do that (not to say it can't be done though). Out of curiousity, why do you not want to use EDGE?
I've been having intermittant problems with my EDGE/GPRS connection dropping. None of the usual fixes such as upgrading the radio rom, etc. seemed to help. One of the other threads here suggested that it was a network issue, and that the problems started since t-mobile implemented EDGE. My previous phone which only had GPRS, never had any issues, so I was curious to know if there was some connection between EDGE and intermittant disconnections.
I recently spoke with a tech support rep about the same problem. Turns out that they haven't allocated enough of the network to the MDA itself (EDGE will work fine on other devices). They don't know when the problem will be fixed and until then, you should go to connections, manage existing connections, click new, select cellular GPRS, and then internet2.voicestream.com. This will fix your problem, get you some EDGE speed, even thought it won't be nearly as fast as it should. I plan on complaining until the refund some of my data plan charge.
The same problem - with no solution ..
Actually I dont understand what you mean by not allocating enough network to MDA ..
Could you please explain it ?
I'm on AT&T, and I have the same problem. GPRS, whilst slow, is reliable. 3G/HSDPA is fast, even with very low signal strength. But EDGE is awful. Sometimes it works, but it's usually unbearably slow, if it works at all. There is a long time lag when the data mode (GPRS/EDGE/3G) switches to EDGE. ... and the problem is espeically bad when there's moderate to low signal (1-2 bars).
I'd like to be able to disable EDGE too, and use GPRS, without having to use 3G (as there's no coverage when I could use GSM coverage).
Kamskii, I think the confusion is that you're not using a Wizard, and this board is for Wizard users. You should repost this question on the Kaiser General board.
Related
Hi,
I've found that the switch between GPRS and UTMS can be a bit of a PITA. It causes TomTom to drop it's traffic connection, and makes web browsing in a marginal 3G area practically unusable as it's chops and changes between GPRS and UTMS (3G).
I've tried to create a new "Cellular Line" connection with the *99# dialup settings, in a hope that this would connect me to GPRS without switching to UTMS if available, but I can't get it to work - it just says "No modem at above number".
Has anybody got a solution to this?
Cheers,
Steve.
If you select Settings -> Phone -> Band and choose GSM (instead of Auto), what happens? Does it stick to GSM? I think it should do.
EDIT: Jus ttried it on mine. Had full UMTS signal and forced GSM and it worked!
I'm not in a position to test that at the moment (no 3G signal), however, doesn't that prevent all 3G facilities of the phone (i.e. video calls) from working?
Having said that, I can't think why I would want a video call, and I can always switch it back should I need to.
Cheers,
Steve.
Yes it does prevent all 3G features (and therefore extends battery life). Sorry, I didn't realise that this was not what you wanted to do. From your original post I thought you didn't want it to use UMTS at all.
Ideally, it was just the web browsing/internet access that I wanted to prevent switching to UTMS, but to be honest, I'm not sure I would miss video phoning - is there anything else I'm getting on 3G that I'll not get after making that change?
Cheers,
Steve.
As far as I'm aware, making voice calls on 3G is a little bit clearer than on GSM, but consumes more battery. So if you are unable to tell the difference between the two then you could fix it to GSM and save battery life.
However, don't forget that UMTS is vaunted as being 3 times faster than GPRS for internet use, so your browsing etc will slow down if you lock it into GSM/GPRS only mode. I bet this doesn't matter much for TomTom traffic though as I am sure it only uses small amounts of data. If you're happy with GPRS then go for it.
Yes, I'm aware of the speed difference between GPRS and UTMS. My main problem is that I use my Exec to update the football scores on my football club's website, but the home ground is in a marginal UTMS area, so it keeps switching on/off, and consequently takes much longer to update the score than if it just connected via GPRS.
I'll give these new settings a go, and if there are any unwanted side effects, I'll switch back.
Cheers,
Steve.
Having being in the know about 3G for some time now I'm saying that its virtually impossible to only use GSM for internet, but stay with 3G for vid calling.
Your best bet would be some 3rd party software for this as I don't think any 3G phone lets you do this.
Yes I agree Biohead. I don't even think third party software would help as the radio has to disconnect and then reconnect. So you can't do some stuff on GSM (like GPRS) and then some on UMTS (like Video calling) without disconnecting and reconnecting. Luckily for Mr Pritchard, he is not too bothered about video calling and so, hopefully, this will solve his problem.
I just switch to 3G instead of 2G. I want to experience the high speed internet suffing via my handset.
But I found the problem is that the phone call can't came in if I using the 3G data. Not even transfer to security services. Just a "Busy tone".
Check with the service provider and they are now checking with their technical dept to see if they can found the problem.
They said that the call should be able to come in because the phone call channel is different to the data channel. :roll: :?:
Anyone experience the same problem?
I experienced the same problem with my CHT9000. You may change the setting to GSM then call can come in when you using GPRS but you can't enjoy the high 3G speed on data transmittion. Anyone has better solution?
complicated issue; can be the same with GPRS/EDGE ; I made a lot of research read below;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54738&highlight=
It is interesting. I don't have this kind of problem while I am using GPRS. But it happen to my new network provider (3G).
Lucky you then :lol:
At least you have GPRS/EDGE working and as a result it is absolutely a network provider issue.
I talked every detail with a guy in my Net. Op. and seems can be solved by "tricky switching something on" but they could not make me believe that this is not thier mistake. Because Class B phones MUST suspend the data flow and accept incoming calls for the technical point, only class A phones (no retail ATM) can make data flow and GSM talk at the same same.
GPRS is 2G, EDGE is 2,5G and same tecnique as 3G, only speeds are lower, so I beleive if u use 2G suspend while incoming calls your Net.Op. can solve the problem if they want :wink:
I have this strange problem with my vario II.
I am using Tmobile GPRS on both 2g and 3g network, If I am using the 2g phone works if If am using 3g phone doesn't work if I call it, the phone rings but doesn't alert me. The most annoying problem I am having is the phone switches between 2G and 3G if I am in a call the phone goes silent can't hear anything the display shows the call as connected and around 5-10 seconds later the phone drops call drops. This happens even if the data connection if not active.
What is the deal with that? anyone else have this problem.
Phone band settings are below
network type
Auto
GSM
GSM(900+1800)+UTMS(2100)
I've just discovered the same problem with my orange branded tytn, I'll be phoning them later to ask what they can do about it.
xxnoelziexx said:
I am using Tmobile GPRS on both 2g and 3g network, If I am using the 2g phone works if If am using 3g phone doesn't work if I call it, the phone rings but doesn't alert me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Works perfectly on T-Mobile UMTS for me. I did flash the Dopod 838Pro ROM though.
will flash the dopod rom in the morning. I am currently using the imate rom, and the tmobile rom the device shipped with had to many slow downs so it had to go. if this fixes the drop out issue I will be happy if not the phone will be in its box till a rom update. got the phone cheap so don't really mind. nice phone/pda apart from this issue in my line of work can't afford to miss or drop calls.
so is this a hardware or a software issue then?
No harware problem, it is absolutely software issue. Read my posts above and the links I gave
No problems here I'm afraid.
Voda v1605 running the Voda Blackberry Client, so either 3G or GPRS (where no 3G available) on all the time. Calls and SMS received perfectly.
Only issue I have is when using 3G, unlike home wired broadband, I cannot use multiple applications through the single 3G connection (e.g. Blackberry client on and surf too)
Steven
I(m currently switching between GSM and 3g - however i gprs seems to work fine for browsing however 3g does not seem to be working for browsing but ok for calls!! Im in the birmingham area where 3g coverage is normally superb - is anyone experiencing similar problems or know a possible way to resolve? I soft reset doesnt resolve the issue!
I am in T-Mobile UK and have no problems so sorry cannot offer advice - is surfing with GPRS OK? I have found T-Mobile customer support very good - give them a try. Their tech support people seem to know what they are talking about which is nice too - much different to O2. Good luck
PS - if not tried then take a look at the excellent plug-in by Daniel Herrero here. I doubt it will fix this problem but it saves lots of battery power and is very configurable.
I have exactly the same problem. 3g is really slow for surfing and GPRS is so much faster. In fact a lot of the the time on 3g I just get error messages saying the page is not available etc but if I then switch to GSM it loads in a second.
I have found something weird though: If I switch the phone off or go in to comm manager and switch the line connection off then try to surf or download on 3g it will not work.
If however, I switch the phone or the connection on then switch to gsm, and then to UMTS/3g it will surf on 3g.
For this I use Daniel Herrero's excellent program to fast switch.
but even this method sometimes doesn't work.
What I've resorted to is surfing on GPRS and when I need to download something, quickly switch (using Dan's Program) to 3g.
Am I right in thinking the no 3g connection after being switched on is a known issue with the Hermes?
HI JPHCCFC
Im in Birmingham on t-mobile and for the past two ...three days i to have had trouble connecting to the web or msn...very slow or no connection
Gavin
cheers for the info guys - im thinking that maybe its a 3g network error in the area - anybody who isnt experiencing problems in the birmingham area with 3g Data?
still no data 3g in the birmingham area....or is it my handset??? Gav1n how is your data 3g performing?
Im in manchester and i seem to have the same problem with 3g being much slower for browsing than the standard gprs
I'm getting the same issues in East surrey
phoned customer services they said they had no reported errors with the 3g network! they said try the sim swap with another tmobile sim to see if its the handset or network!
hi im still the same no 3G ....in brum (quinton) when i change the band to gsm every is thing is ok....its the same on my wifes phone ...so deff a t-moible thing...
gavin
3G connection issues on TMobile-Vario2
Dear all,
Appears the south-east also has the same type of connection issues. Everything appeared well until about 7-10 days back.
I e-mailed T-Mobile support and they advised that there were some network issues which could have impacted the service. I did notice that their on-line account services had also been upgraded around the same time period - maybe a coincidence - but every since then the phone doesn't seem to surf properly on the 3G service. AND, battery life goes down dramatically - I only now manage to get about a day's use out of the damn phone!
I've got a replacement battery from T-Mobile - but same thing happens. I think it's all inter-related!
So what's the solution anyone? 'cos I am getting rather hacked off with it all!
I'm getting hacked off with really bad now.
My grps is faster than 3g. Period. Regardless of reception. Anyone got a solution???
try disabling hsdpa with hermes tweaker and reboot your phone.make sure you are not connected to gprs while disabling it. it has solved my problems.
3G connection issues on TMobile-Vario2
Same here in the Canary Wharf area for the last 7-10 days. First I blamed my radio rom - I have upgraded to 1.34.00.10 when the problem started. But then I have also tried 1.27 and few older ones - all the same problem. Fast grps, but no 3G. The battery also dies quite fast on 3g, so I have now switched to GSM only. :-(
Don't know if any of you have done this already but I was having the 3G problems for a couple of weeks and battery was draining quickly, I phoned up T-Mobile and asked them if HSPDA was turned on on my account which it wasn't, since they turned it on the problems have disappeared and my connection speed is now at least 750 kbs.
3G issues
i have had my t-mobile for over a week now, but in the shop they said there was no 3G in edgbaston, birmingham but when i got it home i connected quite easily
3g dns failures
I have had a t-mobile vario 2 for the last 5 months. when I first got the phone I was excited to get the hsdpa activated and quickly phoned up tmobile and got through to a tech guy who activated it. I didnt really notice much speed improvement and tmobile only shows the 3g and not the h for hsdpa, but I was pretty happy with my speeds of around 70kbit/sec (tested through http://text.dslreports.com/myspeed?jisok=1). I downloaded fieldtest_157 which showed that I was connected to hsdpa but the values showed through hsdpa cqi status were very low.
About 1 month ago I was suddenly unable to go online whenever my phone went into 3g mode, my phone would show it connected but wouldn’t find any addresses. I was only able to when it switched to gsm. I phoned tmobile to get the problem fixed. they said it was a known issue with the phone and made me permenantly switch my phone to the gsm network. I was basically told that my phone does not support 3g and hangs on switching from gsm to 3g for no apparent reason and that they were working on the problem. they must have done something on their side because when I switched to phone back on to auto network switching, I got gsm and 3g connectivity and downloads but not hsdpa (checked with fieldtest_157)
next day because I was unhappy with the download speed I phoned tmobile and asked for hsdpa reactivation. the first level who answered made me hang on and reactivated hsdpa. same problem cant download except on gsm switch. rephoned tmobile and got through to another 2nd level tech guy and explained all my connection problems.he said that my phone had never been hsdpa connected and connected it for me. what do you know Im suddenly getting 950kbit/sec speeds and hsdpa cqi status shows all high teens or 20's. for some reason my battery is lasting allot longer and 5 months after getting the phone Im happy. moral of the story is to download fieldtest_157 from:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...e=Hermes_Utils
and check hsdpa status because either lots of bull is being told to tmobile customers or there are some pretty stupid people working there.
I was getting lots of dns failures (except in gsm) and getting really fraustrated. I was going to ask for deactivation of hsdpa. Luckily the technician I spoke to (about the tenth person in 3 days) that eventually got me connected, new his stuff. He tried to trick me into admitting that I was using my phone as a modem for my computer and only connected me after I denied it. after he changed something on his side, he made me pull out my battery and do a soft reset. Everythings now how I expected when I bought the phone. It might sound like conspiracy theory but I got the feeling that he only connected me when it sounded like I knew slightly more than the average Joe. My hsdpa connection has been faultless ever since. Getting consistently high speeds even with 1 bar. On 3g!!
I had low fieldtest numbers before my proper activation. now all much higher teens or twentys
keep phoning tmobile until the problem is fixed!! and speak to someone who doesnt have to read a set of respone instructions and has some real knowledge.
Hope this helps
Cheers craig
No 3G in Glasgow. Was fine until 7-10 days ago. Phoned T-Mobile and the guy said they knew of problems. Asked for HSDPA to be activated, he claimed to have done this but no difference. Another post implies that they might not actually enable HSDPA first time of asking.
I bought the phone for 3G. It clearly has nothing to do with the handset since it worked fine for 3 months. Can I make a claim against T-Mobile?
i activated HSDPA and this resolved the issue for me!
3g has been up and down a lot in the Glasgow area. Right now, I can connect but not actually do anything while connected to 3G (GPRS is fine). Can anyone else in this area confirm that 3G is not working? Is this a Glasgow thing or is it happening throughout the UK?
Bobby
Do you mean specifically for Tmobile or any 3G network in Glasgow?
Have you spoken to Tmobile about this?
I'm down south and having problem recently at my home address.
I mean specifically T-Mobile.
I must say, I am unimpressed with T-Mobile's fast data service. Their 3G service is down most of the time and they are reluctant to enable HSDPA even when you ask them to.
T-Mobile
Hi
I use my Vario-2 connected to a laptop daily on my commute between Stirling and Edinbugh. Some days it works brilliantly, most of the time its so-so and sometimes it wont work at all!
Its a t-mobile issue, but they wont acknowledge it or fix it. They just keep asking me to provide them with 5 reports of it not working properly incl postcodes (which I do) then I hear nothing.
One thing I find all the time is that disabling HSDPA fixes many of the issues. Basically, HSDPA does not work well when I am moving. I notice this with downloads which may run at 70KB/sec when in the station, but as soon as th train starts to move they drift away to nothing. The phone does not switch back to vanilla UMTS soon enough when HSDPA stops performing properly.
I now run with HSDPA disabled except when I am stationary.
I wish there was a way to disable HSDPA without having to soft reset the phone for the enable/disable (of HSDPA) to actually take effect.
Nigel
hi, i have not had a smart phone before and am not to sure on how the bands work but think i have a problem.
my phone is from Virgin mobile and running 1.48 stock rom, manila and radio 2.05.
few questions i'd like to ask before you read what i think my problem is.
1. is the internet supposed to run off 3g when not on wifi?
2. is 3g faster than "H"?
my problem: 3g is active, data connection is off. i open opera (or anything else) and 3g trys to connect, 3g sign disappears and "H" appears. data connection is on and using "Virgin GPRS".
i called virgin mobile tech support and they said it is meant to go through gprs.. lie?
i called htc and they said they don't think it is a problem with my phone...
i have done a hard reset.
i think it is either the 3g doesn't work, or there is something really wrong with the settings, or virgin mobile makes it like this?
please help as i may want to return it if this causes a big problem for me.
Sunil_237 said:
hi, i have not had a smart phone before and am not to sure on how the bands work but think i have a problem.
my phone is from Virgin mobile and running 1.48 stock rom, manila and radio 2.05.
few questions i'd like to ask before you read what i think my problem is.
1. is the internet supposed to run off 3g when not on wifi?
2. is 3g faster than "H"?
my problem: 3g is active, data connection is off. i open opera (or anything else) and 3g trys to connect, 3g sign disappears and "H" appears. data connection is on and using "Virgin GPRS".
i called virgin mobile tech support and they said it is meant to go through gprs.. lie?
i called htc and they said they don't think it is a problem with my phone...
i have done a hard reset.
i think it is either the 3g doesn't work, or there is something really wrong with the settings, or virgin mobile makes it like this?
please help as i may want to return it if this causes a big problem for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's nothing wrong with the phone mate.
You've got GPRS (2G) and 3G which includes HSPDPA (and HSUPA). HSDPA is the fastest of those types, 3G slower, and GPRS the slowest. Your phone will try and use the best connection available, and that just depends on the coverage in your area (and how good the phone's reception is). If you're getting a strong and steady signal, I really wouldn't worry about it.
Basically, HSDPA is a faster version of 3G.
but my sisters 3g (on o2 iphone) is faster (by a lot... and then some) than mine.
ran the same video on youtube (wifi disabled) and she got done in a matter of seconds while i was buffering mid stream
with the coverage checker i ran before i got the phone it said my area was "very good" and i get 3 bars usually.
o it is connecting through gprs not HSPDPA, in the connections screen it shows "Virgin GPRS"
Sunil_237 said:
but my sisters 3g (on o2 iphone) is faster (by a lot... and then some) than mine.
ran the same video on youtube (wifi disabled) and she got done in a matter of seconds while i was buffering mid stream
with the coverage checker i ran before i got the phone it said my area was "very good" and i get 3 bars usually.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All I can say is that she must have a better signal with O2 than you have with Virgin.
Sunil_237 said:
hi, i have not had a smart phone before and am not to sure on how the bands work but think i have a problem.
my phone is from Virgin mobile and running 1.48 stock rom, manila and radio 2.05.
few questions i'd like to ask before you read what i think my problem is.
1. is the internet supposed to run off 3g when not on wifi?
2. is 3g faster than "H"?
my problem: 3g is active, data connection is off. i open opera (or anything else) and 3g trys to connect, 3g sign disappears and "H" appears. data connection is on and using "Virgin GPRS".
i called virgin mobile tech support and they said it is meant to go through gprs.. lie?
i called htc and they said they don't think it is a problem with my phone...
i have done a hard reset.
i think it is either the 3g doesn't work, or there is something really wrong with the settings, or virgin mobile makes it like this?
please help as i may want to return it if this causes a big problem for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1) Yes
2) No. H is a faster type of 3G.
My only worries with Virgin and 3G are wether they cap the actual download bandwidth available to handsets at 384kbps (despite the phone connecting with HSDPA - I had this problem with T-Mobile), wether they cap the upload speed at 44kbps and wether they block the Skype ports.
The connection name, Virgin GPRS, is just the name they gave to their data connection when they setup your phone. It could actually say anything you want if you change the settings in the phone.
Sunil_237 said:
but my sisters 3g (on o2 iphone) is faster (by a lot... and then some) than mine.
ran the same video on youtube (wifi disabled) and she got done in a matter of seconds while i was buffering mid stream
with the coverage checker i ran before i got the phone it said my area was "very good" and i get 3 bars usually.
o it is connecting through gprs not HSPDPA, in the connections screen it shows "Virgin GPRS"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's possible that she has a better signal than you but I find that 3G coverage on O2, especially HSDPA coverage is generally significantly worse than coverage on T-Mobile (Virgin use their network).
However it could also be that the bandwidth is capped at a pretty low level on Virgin (3G rather than HSDPA despite the symbol), which I mentioned in my previous post.
o ok. ok ok. ok lol satisfied with some logical and knowledgable answers.
i believe they will have capped the data rate then (i haven't had signal problems for 7 years now on 4 different providers and the coverage map showed a very good signal for 3g here), if you can provide me with an app which would test.. o maybe speedtest.net may work i'll try them now and let you know.