Since i've upgraded t the t-moble NL rom, I cannot surf the net while in a call... anyone knows how to solve this? it was fine in previous roms...
thx,
Ariel
You really should give more detail. Such that you are trying to surf using wifi and not GPRS etc....
Or try http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
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Whoops - apparently I wasn't too clear... (the first message was written while on a bus, so I guess that doesn't help much
On previous ROMS, I was able to use the 'net while making aphone call via 3G connection (i.e. I am surfing, some1 calls - and I can continue surfing while in the call). The dial-up connection just disconnects when the call comes in.
In the latest T-mobile NL ROM, this is not possible...
BTW, 3G networks support this feature...
Ariel
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Hi folks:
I cannot be totally sure if this is the cause of this, but after loading the v1.2 ROM, I am missing calls while I am transferring data on GPRS. The weird thing is that while GPRS is on and I am not transferring data, I get calls in, but if I am browsing on sending/receiving email, I miss the calls.
Can this be related to the ROM update, or is it that I have a setting that needs to be adjusted ?
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
Fernando
What did you have before the 1.2? We did not change much in the way GPRS connections are handled relative to 1.1.
Hello:
I had the current T-Mobile ROM before upgrading it to ver 1.2. I like this ROM a lot, but I noticed this little snag that makes me miss calls every so often.
Thanks in advance,
Fernando
This is exactly how it has ALWYAYS worked. The XDA uses a subset of the GSM spec which does not allow for simultaneous voice/data, and you cannot receive a call while ACTIVELY passing data. With the connection open but not actually sending data, the phone will ring. If you answer, there is a delay while GPRS is dropped and the call is picked up.
There is a spec for simultaneous voice/data, and also a spec for getting calls and suspending GPRS temporarily (leaving your internet connection just where you left it once you hang up the voice call). The XDA supports neither, and actually most carriers are not able to support simultaneous yet either (at least the US carriers cannot). They do support suspend, which works with phones like the T68.
Hola Carlos:
This makes sense, and it is actually the way it is happening for me. It seems I only noticed it now. I actually notice the delay in answering the incoming calls while GPRS is dropped.
Thanks for your wisdom and help.
Cheers,
Fernando
I upgraded to 2.24 Tmobile official beta ROM. and it seems that I cant get phone calls while im streaming thru EDGE/GPRS not just streaming also like browsing and stuff, phone calls go straight to voicemail, is this how it was on 2.17 or 2.21 ? Because I tought it worked before !!!! Can anyone confirm please...
Can some one please verify regarding this, can some one just try browsing somethign and call them selvs and see if it goes straight tru to voice mail on a diffrent ROM please....
Yozh:
I had an 8125 on the Cingular network running Summiter's 2.17 ROM, and the phone call always interrupted any web surfing I was doing, and/or disconnected IM+ (which uses gprs/edge).
That phone broke (d'oh!) and I got another one that was running the stock ROM. Same thing.
I now have a new 8125, and just upgraded to Summiter's 2.3 ROM (thank you Summiter!), and the phone acts the same.
I've never experienced an issue where the phone call goes directly to voice mail... that I know of.
Very strange, I tought thats what mine used to do before the 2.24 ROM it used to interupt the GPRS session for a phone call. ANyone else that can confirm that this is just an issue in 2.24 ROM ?
Anyone else that can confirm this ?
Or maybe there is a registry setting for this ?
I have always thought it depends on what your gprs connection was doing.
if it is connected but idle, then calls will come through. if it is connected and in use, downloading a file or something, then it won't be interupted by a call.
as far as I know, this is the way gprs was desgined to work. can anyone confirm?
I dont want to go back to the 2.17 ROM just to test this. But it looks like no one out there would do it for me .... I could of sworn that it worked before..
yozh;
I have the same ROM and I DO get my calls, they DONT go to voicemail.
It's not the rom. Its the way GPRS works. Try to download constant packets of data(like streaming a high quality video) ON ANY ROM and try calling you at the same time. it can and it WILL go to voice mail.
That being said, sometimes you might be downloading a lot of data and you phone MIGHT STILL RING! This is because GPRS uses multiple different channels than then one used for voice, but this feature is just a plus, its not something you can always rely on.
Just something i wanted to add: This rom had brought me incredible reliabily on my GPRS connection and, paired with the cingular radio rom, its close to perfect for me. Maybe because with this rom the GPRS is always working full-speed and optimized, pushing the MOST of data it can, calls might be going to voicemail more often than normal? Its just a thought and maybe its a stupid one, but on my understanding the more data its pushing, the greater the chances it will go to voicemail.
Hope that helps.
Strange because MDA is class B device and class b device should
Class B
Class B mobile phones can be attached to both GPRS and GSM services, using one service at a time. Class B enables making or receiving a voice call, or sending/receiving an SMS during a GPRS connection. During voice calls or SMS, GPRS services are suspended and then resumed automatically after the call or SMS session has ended.
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thats from http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/gprs/class.shtml
So thats kinda strange Im telling you Tmobile is doing something, I need someone with 2.17 or 2.21 to check this please[/quote]
Similar problem with 2.25
I just updated to 2.25 ROM and have a similar problem. In this case, it seems that once I make ANY GPRS connection, the voice channel no longer works. Outgoing call just don't connect and incoming are directed to voicemail. It still indicates a strong signal to the Cingular netowrk, and data apps still work (for example, the voicemail notifications and email keep coming in). I have to stop the data comm and then cycle the phone (voice) connection in order to get voice back.
Any suggestions? Cingular is advising me to downgrade back to 1.8 ROM - but they don't even have a link to get it!
What programs are you using?
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53432
It documents the problem...
I'm sure I've read about this problem in the past but I can't figure out whether there is a way around it. My model is an MDA Vario II in the UK. Is there any way to avoid missing calls when the phone is connected to the internet?
It's great having a phone with internet access, but not so great that it doesn't seem capable of functioning as a phone at the same time!
thanks
Can anyone help with this please?
thanks.
Am I really the only person with this problem, or am I just being really dumb with my forum searches?
thanks
I think there is a difference between GPRS and UMTS. When a GPRS connection is active (at least, when data is sent or received) you are not able to receive calls. When UMTS is active, calls should get through. The standard way should be that the device detects an incoming call, shuts down the GPRS connection and restarts it after the call is ended. With UMTS, the device can receive and send data and answer the call at the same time. I have actually never had any problems with unanswered calls while browsing, but I use UMTS all the time (or perhaps no-one is calling me while browsing).
I have no idea what fault in your phone could cause your problem. Try searching with better keywords perhaps in the future, I found several threads relating to this problem by using the words "data connection missed calls". Use the same words for a search and I am sure you'll find lots of threads about this.
This will always happen with any handset. if you are sat there reading a page and not loading any data then the call will interupt the GPRS connection then reconnect once the call has finished. If you are sending or receiving data then the person will get a busy tone. Sorry this is just how all the UK networks work.
Hello all,
This is my first post here...I have a TYTN, and am looking at ways to call another tytn phone(or any wm6 actually) through gprs, so to use the charge per meg and not the phones charge per minute. Ive tried with Fring and skype mobile, both give terrible delays. Is this at all possible through GPRS/EDGE? (I dont enable 3G cos local provider having issues atm).
Is there no specific application for two WM6 phones to communicate using GPRS? Can anyone recommend any other applications to test?
Thanks in advance,
Sorry if this has been asked before, but I been looking and didnt find anything..
apocza said:
Hello all,
Is this at all possible through GPRS/EDGE? (I dont enable 3G cos local provider having issues atm).
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Read it from Skype.
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/tipsandtricks.html
Yes, you do need 3G for Internet calling. However, you can always turn to Wifi for Internet calling. Regardless you have WM5 or WM6, GPRS/EDGE just doesn't have enough bandwidth for VoIP.
CameoTabby said:
Read it from Skype.
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/tipsandtricks.html
...., GPRS/EDGE just doesn't have enough bandwidth for VoIP.
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EDGE has plenty of bandwith for VoIP, in particular if you use GSM codec. Just the latency isn't great, but it will do.
So if Skype doesn't work, consider SIP.
gprs dont connect 2 phones
it's only a internet connection
it's transparent to both devices if
they talk to a phone or a pc
the only way 2 phones maybe can talk data with eachother is the
old data gsm which is limited to 9600Kboud which is much much slower then even gprs
SIP internet calling etc
Can someone help me please. You know the internet calling option on WM6, how for the love of money do you use it. I got skype which i use but i got no idea what this internt calling option is for because i dont know how to use it. HELPPPPPP PLEASEEEEEe
Internet calling is for using witha SIP server such as FWD or an inhouse Asterik/LCS box.
Hello,
I have just got myself a universal, but I don't want to run up a huge bill with GPRS connecting to the web and other bits, so how do I disable it.
I only want to connect via Wi-fi and nothing else..... If there is no Wi-fi available I want to be able to then activate GPRS.
Do you sort of know where I am coming from.
Is there a way to tell on the front screen to check if its using GPRS or Wi-fi as wel?
BTW I am new to PDA's so please help me as much as you can.
Many thanks.
When I make a call is it gsm or gprs?
Is there a larger cost to GPRS calls? Is GPRS data?
If so, can I sort of disble it from connecting via this method.
I only want to make calls via gsm, and if I need tinternet I will use the wifi..
Please help... I dont want to get a huge bill when it comes in from work.,.,.,
*** I posted this because I realised I made a mistake in the 1st post, by getting GSM and GPS totally mixed up....***
Jimbo73 said:
When I make a call is it gsm or gprs?
Is there a larger cost to GPRS calls? Is GPRS data?
If so, can I sort of disble it from connecting via this method.
I only want to make calls via gsm, and if I need tinternet I will use the wifi..
Please help... I dont want to get a huge bill when it comes in from work.,.,.,
*** I posted this because I realised I made a mistake in the 1st post, by getting GSM and GPS totally mixed up....***
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quickest way to deactivate GPRS is just to delete it's profile under connection settings. should be easy enough to see but in some cases it may cause a problem when it comes to MMS as MMS is part GPRS even though they don't charge you per Mb like they do for browsing.
enjoy